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) that's how you should use him! and also if he is to work singles matches then you have to book him against younger guys, but man that made me really happy, is there anyone that can move you like the Undertaker ? it's just impossible, even at his age man, there will never be another. ) he is criminally under rated and while people will whinge and say what they like, he has been performing at an elite level and is a throw back / once in a life time performer, his feud with Rollins (who am not the biggest fan of myself) has been brilliant ! and Paul / Brock seem to bring out the best in Rollins on the mic ! you have to admit ! although I think he could do with a character rework but he is at his best when involved with those guys and Paul has a innate talent to bring out your best promo
maybe at mania he will win ?
) and I will judge Okada and Tanahashi much better if they wrestle for Vince
I came here thinking what's happening here, it's very unlike MIG to post in a raslin thread
The tag match was epic! taker moving like it's 2007
I didn't know Black / Cesaro was booked and was like no way am I skipping this! it was such a great match!
I also enjoyed the Brocky cash in
It's great Kofi is having a run but Joe is like 0-8 in world title bouts now
Ali and Nak look to be feuding next! am excite !
Bischoff will start his new role next week although he will be there to add structure rather then being involved in creative, Paul will have a bit more creative input. RAW reunion next week! am hyped! great few weeks
Also I was just thinking about what is Cena's best match, this is mine but I don't want to influence your decision so name the first match that comes to your mind and then look at my choice, I think I know what yours will be:
Shawn Michaels v Cena - RAW 2007 in London !!! that was just magical, it wasn't even meant to happen ! due to injury to either Edge or Orton, the tag match between Rated RKO and HBK / Cena could not be booked I believe, Shawn basically called the match in the ring all by himself and Cena played his part to big time, it was an electric atmosphere, the crowd was absolutely going bonkers! this match for me was even better then the one they had at mania as much as I
enjoyed that to, by far this was his greatest match. You may say the battle with Punk but that is up there for sure also because of the epic build, but this for me was very special.
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Nobody watches that rubbish, I gave AEW a chance because you said Omega is superior to Shawn Michaels ( [MENTION=141804]QalandarFan[/MENTION] this is very true, this guys ignorance has no limits ) - then all I saw was a standard mid card match in the main event, he struggled badly and looked out of his depth even though he had experience in north america, compare that to AJ Styles PPV debut for NWA Wildside, what was he in his early 20s ? blowing the roof off, you just knew he was special. All those Japan hacks are protected because they get to work in an environment with no limits, the style is the same and the styles between the performers / level of skill is similar to ; will make broomsticks like Omega look better for what they are.
This is what you deserve for talking rubbish and being a bad human being Aman; NZ getting smashed, Messi choking like a coward again in internationals and R-Truth having more heat then Omega who is meant to be better then Shawn Michaels according to you
And look at this coward lick the behind of Moxley, always ripped him and every other WWE rasler until they jump ship, can't wait for Apollow Crews to become your next GOAT if he switches there
And don't talk to me about Kenta, you've never watched him before he made the jump; but at best he is a very good indie / japan style rasler who was exposed in America once again, he is only rated because Bryan carried him to legendary matches in ROH
For me the greatest John Cena match ever is AJ Styles vs John Cena at the 2017 Royal Rumble. It's a tough one as John Cena has had so many great matches with the likes of Edge, HBK, and of course Punk. Quite ironic for a guy who indie smarks and others say "can't wrestle." I've always since day 1 been a huge WWE fan so I've followed his career pretty closely.
However, for me this match against AJ Styles at the Royal Rumble not only was Cena's greatest match ever but would be up there in my top 5/10 greatest matches ever. This match had it all the blowoff to months of an epic story-line. This feud in '16 was such a breath of fresh air. The match was made all the more brilliant by the fact that they somehow managed to top their epic SummerSlam encounter. I think I've re watched this match like 50 times it's just such a great match. I loved every second of it even indie smarks or guys who hate on the WWE couldn't hate on this match just because of how good it was if this match happened in Japan lemme tell ya old brother meltzer would of given this one 9 Stars
I loved his match with HBK at Raw in 2007 as well I'm pretty sure everyone can agree that, they outdid there encounter at WM with that unbelievable showing at Raw. His match with Punk at MITB was my favorite for a long time until he had that match with AJ at the Rumble, and it was only at the Rumble they had some good matches at MITB and SS but that match at the Rumble was just so refreshing to watch and one of the best WWE Championship matches ever!
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[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] isn't a proper fan to be honest, he is very delusional and the worst hipster smark you will ever come across. Everything outside WWE is the best and those who leave there become his GOAT. This guy was saying to me AJ lost a step just before his second WWE title run, he just can't comprehend versatile performers, styles, environments and scenarios. The touring schedule is also crazy for the WWE performers, to see them perform at such a high level consistently is great; look booking wise things could be better but that is the nature of a tough territory, no one gets it easy but cream finds a way to rise to the top.
Looking forward to Raw Reunion next week hopefully rumors are true and we see The Rock return!!! How epic would it be if Y2J returned man that would be something I really love Jericho such a great pro wrestler. Also wonder what the plans for Roman are at SS. Hopefully rumors are true and we see Roman/Rock in the main event but I highly doubt that.
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Don't forget Umaga as well! LMS! one of the best gimmick matches you will ever see! when you look at how hostile fans were back then, you got to give even more credit to John; the title was on him perhaps longer then it needed to at times but he always delivered no matter what spot he found himself in against a variety of opponents. Yes, that TLC at Unforgiven was great! I have funny story about that, I had portable DVD player at home, bought the Unforgiven DVD from Woolworths, watched the event then returned the DVD citing a faulty product, they replaced it with another brand new sealed copy which I would then return to get my full refund
Yes, eventually that crowd chant eventually was silenced permanently because he just commanded your respect. It was more of a high spot format wasn't it AJ / Cena similar to what they do in Japan except here you had defined characters, heat in the feud and a bit of selling to; I don't think you are far off with the 9 star comment at all, it was better then anything I have seen between Okada and Omega; it was also remarkable because they had to deliver before a crowd of 60K ? when you have a stadium audience it's not easy because it's more difficult to cool them down, bring them back up and use ring psychology to control their reaction and the pace of their response to the action; Styles spoke of how challenging this was in his Mania debut vs Jericho, but like the all time greats before him he made adjustments. For me personally, the MITB match was better from a technical stand point as it had a bit of everything; it was let down by the finish but I get why they did that; for that reason the RR match gets a higher rating but I enjoyed the MITB clash more. But totally see why you'd have that as your favourite.
For me still, that match with Shawn and Cena on RAW was incredible! the atmosphere and how they controlled it, the story was beautiful to leading to the match with the odds stacked against Shawn and him having to go into gear 7 after a marathon which lasted close to 60 minutes, it was very action packed; have a watch again mate! and let me know how it stands the test of time for you.
Haha QalandarApter and ShazyMeltzer
Mine does just change a little from time to time but how can anyone disagree with your no.1 ? and that's a great list from competitors and Undertaker for sure belongs up there in the top 5, wrestling is not limited to one specific style or a lightweight performer.
1. Shawn Michaels
2. Ric Flair
3. Bret Hart
4. Austin
5. Taker
It's pretty cool you put Bret in the top 3 was thinking maybe he will miss him lol he is often overlooked by those who are mostly casuals; anyone that includes him in the top 3 knows the industry.
I would love to get Angle, Styles, Eddie, Mysterio, and Jericho in there but with 5 spots it's so tough so my list does change but I'd say the top 2 never do.
) Lol if I had read that post I would of ripped the dude.
) I'm serious I loved that shtick from Booker. Also best commentator in WWE till they freaking took him off for idek who. I freaking love Booker.
Thanks for spoiling all the comebacks
And Jericho is unlikely would be shocked
great little back and forth, then the fight between Joe and Reign was my highlight from the in-ring action, the set was brilliant to. Tremendous booking of Bray Wyatt, big thank you to Mick Foley for being so selfless as usual. Great to see the nature boy, the respect he commands is extraordinary and remains the consensus GOAT. 
Ohhhh hell yeaaaah! have no idea how Austin still does, his ability to control the crowd in the palm of his hands is out of this world and the intensity is unbelievable, that's how you cut a damn promo! even with his nerves etc that was just incredible.
RAW was a nice fun show, no point nitpicking it, they sold it as a reunion and that's what it was. Beyond that enjoyed the interaction between Rollins/Heyman, The Club were great with AJ; Seth / AJ turned up the level of urgency when HBK came ring side
Didn't mind seeing Kelly Kelly and Melina either
) Loved that Cena. But still great seeing Cena also it was hilarious watching the legends win the 24/7 title before Truth ultimately regaining it. Wanted to see Mick win it as well though hopefully he gets title run down the line lol that would be really fun. Then Roman vs Joe was good not nearly as good as their best battles but this wasn't a wrestling classics show you have to understand. Then we got Seth Rollins and MizTV and the more I see Seth as a face without The Shield man can we please get heel Seth liked him much more as a heel lol. Expected AJ and Seth to at least be a decent match I knew from the on set that there was no way that we were going to get a clean result but still like I said I understand that this is not the classic wrestling show and also you don't want to over expose the audience to Seth/AJ that feud has some killer matches left in it, especially now with AJ as a heel I had been begging for him to turn during their feud. The finally we had the Toast to Raw and man does Stone Cold still have it or what? There is a reason why he is my 2nd favorite superstar ever behind only Taker and it's because of promos like that. Dude hasn't cut a promo in years and he still out here cutting the best promos you'll ever hear. The greatest man to ever hold the mic and yes I factor in the GREAT ONE The Rock in to that decision. Stone Cold is just too good like even Flair and Hogan (in his hometown) didn't get a pop like that. Love Stone Cold! My only little complaint was we didn't get to see some stunners preferably to the boss Vince. And also really wanted to see The Rock, it's been years since he's showed up at WWE. Lol but those are just tiny things that would of made me happier but it's g. like sheesh Randy dude was young when he signed still younger than some of the newer guys. But yeah Randy is probabably like I said the biggest full time draw maybe idk how Roman's drawing with the whack feuds he's been put in.
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Apparently some wrestling smarks on here don't even know what the word "face" means [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]
Brother, Okada is selling out MSG in minutes. While the other company cannot sell out in a month in their own backyard
Let's not forget all the prestigious awards he's won. He is without question the face of pro wrestling with Seth/Becky tanking the WWE and Roman taking a backseat to the so called power couple.
The likes of Okada, Omega, Naito etc are bigger draws than every WWE full timer. The brand is the draw their and star power is non existent.
) Dude wake up but honestly I know deep down your just kidding. Effects from the NZ defeat in the final are still fresh I see.
@Qalanderfan I suggest you watch the G1 if you want to watch the best wrestlers and wrestling. You'll never look back, it's where AJ had the best run of his career and was biggest star power wise.
Now AJ is behind Jon Moxley in terms of best wrestlers in the world in 2019
Actually watch the product, even Shaz who hates Omega called Okada-Omega I one of the greatest matches he's seen.
Omega is a mid carder that was carried to a few decent matches thanks largely to better in ring workers, that too in the easiest era to get over in the ring; he was exposed in North America though, what a disgrace - I want a refund Aman, Shawn has never made me feel that way
Dude I respect your views you can like what you want, it's like pick your poison with Wrestling anybody can watch what they want but sitting here and telling me NJPW is the "face" of wrestling right now meaning it is more popular then WWE is an ignorant thing to say.
I am sure even you don't believe that deep down. Heck is NJPW even more popular than WWE in Japan itself?
Sure WWE may not be more popular than WWE in Japan anymore, but everywhere else in the world it's not even CLOSE WWE eclipses NJPW. Even in Japan, WWE is more popular than many think.
WWE has a substantial online presence in the whole world. Every promotion is now hastening out a streaming service, and most of them are stumbling out the gate, as would be expected: no company in the world can compare with WWE's popularity. Want a metric go check WWE's Youtube subscribers WWE has like 46 million whereas NJPW as what 200K?
Remember, Japanese Wrestling was essentially dead mainstream even just four years back. WWE has been doing its international push for over a decade now, and they are still going strong.
In a nutshell, most people who follow NJPW follow WWE to some extent. I don't think the same can be said about WWE followers concerning NJPW.
The Japanese wrestling market is still pretty split. Plenty of people love only DDT or deathmatches or Joshi or whatever and don't follow NJPW. I will stick to this as I firmly believe it and nothing can change my mind, it is mainly hardcore WWE haters who follow NJPW, and that is a big reason behind their popularity. But it still isn't even close to WWE.
Getting back to WWE's presence in Japan. There is a very unusual yet very consistent flow for WWE alumni touring Japan. X-Pac and Sabu did some shows a bit back. Bob Backlund had a small tour, not to long ago and they almost always do well. So even in your beloved Japan, these guys are drawing.
Haven't checked out the Japan tour for WWE this year, but the 2018 Sumo Hall WWE show sold out instantly except for the costly VIP seats. Now that's a house show. I wonder how big of a building an actual PPV could sell out. According to you none of the current guys in WWE can draw, right? So could you explain how even in Japan, with barely any shows there these guys are still drawing?
I do think NJPW is more prominent in Japan at the moment. But that sure wasn't the case not too long ago.
Heck even NJPW isn't at its peak in wrestling popularity. They were more prevalent in the 1980s and 1990s. They had a terrible down period in the 2000s that almost killed the company, and they have recovered to the point where they are once again a very popular promotion, but they still have a way to go before even reaching the popularity of their heyday. Sure their product quality wise may be better than it has ever been but even now it's not more popular than their own golden age.
So in essence what I am trying to say is every single metric that you want to pull out indicates WWE is more popular than NJPW. Even if that's not enough for you go look at the former wrestler and experts who have talked about NJPW being compared to WWE. You won't find a single person in the world who says NJPW is more popular than WWE. Heck many people don't even think NJPW is competition. I haven't even talked about AEW because wait do they even have like more than 50k fans?
Even Jericho said it himself that they will never topple WWE. WWE is like the Disney of Pro Wrestling you can bring all these other wrestling promotions in but at the end of the day if they try to go head to head with WWE they will suffer the same fate as WCW.
Don't believe me? Just go look at what happened to poor TNA after they went head to head with Vince. Poor guys had so much talent and all, but once they went head to head with WWE they crumbled and never recovered.
Now I know that NJPW is probably more prominent than TNA but the point remains you can't compete with WWE. No one has been able to do it and no one will, your out here living in a fantasy about how NJPW is the face of wrestling.
) If AJ worked a match with a broom in NJPW this dude would call AJ the best wrestler in the world. Also calling Omega better than HBK is just laughable. So honestly don't see the point in wasting my time trying to convince this guy about anything, he'll most likely just ignore it anyways.
Lol I'm not even replying to this dude anymore it's clear he has problems. Referring to WWE as "the other company" just shows this guys frame of mind. Like most other people who watch NJPW this guy has a hate for WWE and fuels it by bloating about NJPW and talking about it as if it's something out of this world. Don't even know if I should reply to this guy calling Ambrose a better Wrestler than AJ.
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The WWE is dead, their crowds don't even care about their formulaic and soulless matches and here you're comparing it to objectively the best wrestling in the world.
Even WWE marks acknowledge it's better and use better excuses like restrictions and agents. Here you are with your head in the sand.
No one considers AJ among the best in the world, I've seen more people call him washed than that.
You know Daniel Bryan works stiff too?
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You know Daniel Bryan works stiff too?
Omega is a bigger draw than AJ or Bryan ever were.Who has Bryan ever injured, Ofaga gave multiple concussions to Okada and Tanahashi ; its the reason why they fired him plus he couldn't draw like AJ or keep the fans hooked, was best in his homo tag team with Ibuchi
Dude, get over it.
If AEW were to announce a show for MSG today, they would sell out in a day at most. WWE is struggling to sell out MSG and tickets have been out for more than a week.
Will you be heading to SummerSlam next week ? it is held in Toronto I believe
They turned PG mainly because of the Benoit incident, he turned the industry over its head; but they also evolved since then and we have entered what is called the "reality era" - the product is a lot more heavy when it comes to athleticism and in-ring work but even now despite it's flaws in booking WWE at their best find the best balance between story telling, character work and in-ring performances
I love summer. Haven't even watched much WWE for like a month. Even SummerSlam which I wanted to go to Toronto to watch live I couldn't because it fell on the same day as Eid.
AEW sold out their first taping within 3 hrs, it would have been an instant sell out had the ticketmaster site been able to handle the traffic.
Apparently someone from Ticketmaster said they hadn't seen demand like it for wrestling ever before
Also, they're running ads for AEW in the previews before Hobbs and Shaw lmao.
