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[VIDEOS] Babar Azam (157*) and Asad Shafiq (119*) - Pakistan 336/3 on Day 1 against Australia A

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Junaids also believes that a spinner needs to average 35 with the bat to warrant selection for a test side. You take him way too seriously :rahat2

Not taking him seriously, just saying how flawed his logic is. There are many examples of bowlers who are 5'10" or 5'11" who have done well in Australia.
 
Not taking him seriously, just saying how flawed his logic is. There are many examples of bowlers who are 5'10" or 5'11" who have done well in Australia.

Many? Not sure of that. I can only think of Steyn, jasprit bumrah and Ryan Harris who have done well in Australia at that height.
 
Junaids also believes that a spinner needs to average 35 with the bat to warrant selection for a test side. You take him way too seriously :rahat2
In Australia, South Africa, New Zealand and England a spinner is often effectively a specialist batsman.
There is a poster on here who is saying the minimum height to be successful in Australia is 6'2".
Generally yes.

But Richardson has bowled his entire life in Australia. Naseem hasn’t.
 
Whats happened to Asad Shafiq? So slow now near his fifty?
 
Whats happened to Asad Shafiq? So slow now near his fifty?

He has always played for personal milestones.
Most of his hundred+ scores are between 100 and 120 which tells u he relaxes after reaching 100
 
Babar is dominating like any good batsman should do after 3-4 years in internationals.
Unfortunately for us our batsmen only regress the more the play
 
Babar going to quick need to keep his sr between 50-60 for optimum test batting
 
Babar going to quick need to keep his sr between 50-60 for optimum test batting

In pink ball tests it is important to bat quickly in the first inning so you can declare at dinner with a good total to bowl under lights.
 
In pink ball tests it is important to bat quickly in the first inning so you can declare at dinner with a good total to bowl under lights.

Are you serious or again just jocking around with Junaid?
No way when you are set like that you can declare an innings on day 1!
 
Are you serious or again just jocking around with Junaid?
No way when you are set like that you can declare an innings on day 1!

Even the commentators were saying the same thing. It's because when the lights turn on, the ball starts moving a lot and the pitch quickens and a lot of wickets fall, so you may as well declare and get into the opposition batting early.

It's a strategy that has been used in day-night tests frequently.
 
It would be darker at the Dinner break in Adelaide, but this is basically when you declare.

The New Pink Ball swings conventionally in the first hour under lights as the sun sets, and you need to knock over the opposition top order at that point.

Pakistan slowed down in the last ten overs before Dinner today. But they should have practised accelerating to try to declare on around 250-5.

Now the Aussies get that hour, but with an old ball. And that’s just not the same, because the hour after Dinner is about conventional swing, not reverse.
 
Even the commentators were saying the same thing. It's because when the lights turn on, the ball starts moving a lot and the pitch quickens and a lot of wickets fall, so you may as well declare and get into the opposition batting early.

It's a strategy that has been used in day-night tests frequently.

You don't want to be batting when the lights turn on.
 
In pink ball tests it is important to bat quickly in the first inning so you can declare at dinner with a good total to bowl under lights.

No way pak will declare it's too out of the box for Misbah and Azhat and incase it backfires the captain and coach can lose their job not to forget open up accusations for deliberate match fixing
 
Guys i thought IMRAN KHAN was a reserve player on this tour...how is he playing before Musa...

Secondly...Cummins and Starc will eat us alive ..Short deliveries after short we have looked awful and that includes shafiq and Babz
 
Guys i thought IMRAN KHAN was a reserve player on this tour...how is he playing before Musa...

Secondly...Cummins and Starc will eat us alive ..Short deliveries after short we have looked awful and that includes shafiq and Babz

Our only hope is that somehow Masood tackles them well early on. Because he is perhaps the one that is the least uncomfortable.
 
Are you serious or again just jocking around with Junaid?
No way when you are set like that you can declare an innings on day 1!

New Pink Ball under lights is how you remove Smith and Warner.
 
No way pak will declare it's too out of the box for Misbah and Azhat and incase it backfires the captain and coach can lose their job not to forget open up accusations for deliberate match fixing

They haven't scored enough for that. They should get 250 then maybe think of declaring.
 
They haven't scored enough for that. They should get 250 then maybe think of declaring.

They won't declare even if the score was 250. A little chance they would've in this game as this practice but definitely not in the test match
 
Lol at the declaring at dinner theory. Has any team ever done that in a D/N test.

You seem to know more that the commentary team which includes Mike Hussey and many other ex Aussie players. You also know more than players who have played day-night tests in Adelaide.
 
They won't declare even if the score was 250. A little chance they would've in this game as this practice but definitely not in the test match

Daynight tests at Adelaide are a lot about luck, if you win the toss and bat first then you have a massive advantage. If you can bat at 4 runs an over then you will have 240 by dinner, then come and bowl on an extremely lively track straight after dinner. But if you have a defensive captain and coach then they won't use this advantage.
 
Lol at the declaring at dinner theory. Has any team ever done that in a D/N test.
There have only been three at Adelaide, where they keep the outfield and pitch green to protect the ball.

But NZ narrowly lost the first because Australia started the fourth innings an hour too early.

And FAF himself admitted that SA lost the next one because he declared an hour too late on Day 1.

With Misbah and Azhar in charge the best hope at Adelaide is for Pakistan to be dismissed at Dinner in around 60 overs.
 
There have only been three at Adelaide, where they keep the outfield and pitch green to protect the ball.

But NZ narrowly lost the first because Australia started the fourth innings an hour too early.

And FAF himself admitted that SA lost the next one because he declared an hour too late on Day 1.

With Misbah and Azhar in charge the best hope at Adelaide is for Pakistan to be dismissed at Dinner in around 60 overs.

Or try to survive one hour under light bat till dinner day2 and then declare with 450 on board
 
But not in a Day/Night match, because you need to declare at Dinner.

With our batting line up Vs a 4 man attack, we should try and bat 145 overs.
Slow the game down enough so the new ball is only available in the night session for a few overs ( so an 83 over day) on day 1

Shan Azhar and haris slogging it out is fine with me, Asad and Babar to bat when the quicks are into their third spells and Rizwan and ifti towards the end of the first session on day two through to the night session.

Aim high brother

Then we use the fresh new ball at night
 
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Century for Babar.
Well played on a very healthy strike rate.
The actual matches will be harder but great to see him going strong.
 
Or try to survive one hour under light bat till dinner day2 and then declare with 450 on board
Out of 12 innings in Day/Night Tests in Adelaide there has only been one score over 400.

The innings scores have been:

202
224
208
187-7

259-9d
383
250
127-3

442-8d
227
138
233

Three innings out of 12 greater than 260.

That’s why declaring at 250 at Dinner in order to bowl under lights as the light changes is smart, not stupid.
 
With our batting line up Vs a 4 man attack, we should try and bat 145 overs.
Slow the game down enough so the new ball is only available in the night session for a few overs ( so an 83 over day) on day 1

Shan Azhar and haris slogging it out is fine with me, Asad and Babar to bat when the quicks are into their third spells and Rizwan and ifti towards the end of the first session on day two through to the night session.

Aim high brother

Then we use the fresh new ball at night

Out of 12 innings in Day/Night Tests in Adelaide there has only been one score over 400.

The innings scores have been:

202
224
208
187-7

259-9d
383
250
127-3

442-8d
227
138
233

Three innings out of 12 greater than 260.

That’s why declaring at 250 at Dinner in order to bowl under lights as the light changes is smart, not stupid.
You have your answer.

It’s almost unheard of to score over 260 in a Day/Night Test at Adelaide.
 
Correction.

Only two team innings higher than 260 out of twelve attempts in Day/Night Tests at Adelaide.
 
Meredith going at 6 RPO. Asad and Babar are playing the short ball well. Defending or leaving the good ones and attacking the ones that they can.
 
Babar - what a find for Pakistan.

May he continue with scoring runs!

Runmachine.
 
I reckon Babar should retire and they should give Iftikhar a try. It'sdifficult to make him retire, you will have to stop him from hitting those drives and pulls.
 
EVen the commentator is saying Abid Ali should be given a go ahead of Haris, as he is a very good player off the back foot.
 
PAkistani bowlers and couple of other players warming up, maybe a declaration is coming up. No one has batting pads on either.
 
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EVen the commentator is saying Abid Ali should be given a go ahead of Haris, as he is a very good player off the back foot.

Shocking suggestion. Haris Sohail is way way better than Abid Ali, just check his FC stats.
 
Ideally Babar should have retired when he got his 100 and Ifti should have come in. Then Asad retired after getting 100 then Rizwan comes in.

Exactly.I am surprised why they haven't as of yet.
This is a practice match.Everyone needs to get the max out of it.
 
You seem to know more that the commentary team which includes Mike Hussey and many other ex Aussie players. You also know more than players who have played day-night tests in Adelaide.

Let's see if Australia declare at dinner if they are only 3 or 4 down at dinner when they play Pakistan.
 
Let's see if Australia declare at dinner if they are only 3 or 4 down at dinner when they play Pakistan.

Faf Du Plessis has said it, commentators and other players have also said it. If you have watched a day-night test at Adelaide oval then you would know what I am talking about. Every pace bowler looks like a magician when those lights go on with the new ball.
 
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Babar will be out cheaply in actual test matches...oz boys luring him into false sense of form...
 
Misbah and azhar have no sense.. even they have played pink ball test before and yet they're not declaring
 
While Babar and Asad have played very well, the fact is this is a poor bowling attack. Australia's bench strength in terms of pace bowlers is decent at best.
 
should have given bowlers a chance under lights or at least given a chance to some other batsmen. Totally clueless from misbah and azhar
 
Commentators are saying Pakistan should declare if they want a possible result or want to have another inning to bat.
 
Want these two to play against the new ball perhaps, makes sense to me.

They did complete their centuries a while ago and have batted for quite a while.Others should get the feel of the pitch too in my opinion.

Since it is an official First Class game, are they allowed to retire like that?

I will be surprised if it's not permitted considering this is supposed to be for practice.
 
I don't mind to be honest, these two are key batsmen and need as much time in the middle as they can possibly get.

It's a placid pitch especially when the old ball was in play there was nothing to really test the batsmen and i guess since its just a 3 day match others should get a chance before they declare eventually.They have faced 400 odd deliveries between the two which is reasonable practice but i dont know whats the plan really.
 
They should've declared because there is not point in playing two batsman that are well settle for over 100.
 
they dont need to retire although should play shots as rizwan and iftikhar needs to bat for sure..its a three day game but classed as first class game so you cant just retire when ever you want
 
The ball is swinging and seaming a lot now.
And this is an hour later than the bowling team really wants or needs.

It’s the first hour after dinner when the new ball takes wickets, as the light - and degree of swing - is constantly changing.
 
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