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The PCB has shown him three venues, so it means we really want to host the event at only three venues
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I think they must show some courage and say that they dont want to play.
How many venues did CT 2017 had?The PCB has shown him three venues, so it means we really want to host the event at only three venues
They announced three venues a week or so ago.How many venues did CT 2017 had?
I know, CT 2017 in England had three venues as well. I am trying to ease the concerns of @FearlessRoar who has talked about just three venues multiple times in different threads.They announced three venues a week or so ago.
Brother, have some courage and say that you don't wanna come straightaway. These kinds of excuses are pretty old. Find some new ones at least. Same excuse every time looks very awkward man. Come on, be a man.
Stupid venuePakistan Cricket Board suggests Lahore as India's home base in next year's Champions Trophy
The Pakistan Cricket Board has suggested Lahore as India's home base during next year's ICC Champions Trophy, in its bid to ensure the best security arrangements for the neighbours. A reliable source in the PCB said that this suggestion has been made in the draft schedule of the event sent to the ICC in late April. "Yes Lahore has been suggested as the home base for the Indian team to reduce their travelling and to provide them with the best security arrangements," the source said.
India last year refused to play the Asia Cup in Pakistan because of security concerns, following which their matches were moved to Sri Lanka. Pakistan is due to host the major ICC 50-over event tentatively between February 19 to March 9 next year. The ICC executive board is yet to approve the draft schedule but the PCB has also kept Karachi and Rawalpindi as other venues for Champions Trophy matches.
This is the first time since 1996 that Pakistan will be hosting any major ICC event although it did host the entire Asia Cup in 2008 and also some games of the same event last year. The BCCI is yet to formally confirm whether it would be sending the national team to Pakistan for the ICC event. PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi has indicated that a major overhaul is on the cards in the Pakistan team following their six-run loss to India in the T20 World Cup in New York on Sunday.
He also said that all three stadiums in Lahore, Karachi and Rawalpindi will be upgraded ahead of the Champions Trophy. The PCB has also said that it would be hosting the Pakistan Super League sometime in April next year because of the Champions Trophy and a tri-series it plans to host before the ICC event with South Africa and New Zealand being the other participating sides.
SOURCE: DECCAN HERALD NEWS
What about being optimistic and think that pakistan can winStupid venue
Pak v India should be in Karachi. It’s the most pro Pakistan city. You are going to repay the Indians with the wholesome Lahore crowd after they made a complete mockery of you in Ahmedabad?
PSL games were played infront of empty stand at Karachi . Lahore was Full House so this is right decisionStupid venue
Pak v India should be in Karachi. It’s the most pro Pakistan city. You are going to repay the Indians with the wholesome Lahore crowd after they made a complete mockery of you in Ahmedabad?
It’s Pakistan v India, how could you assume this game won’t get sold out at Karachi? They are the most realistic crowed in Pakistan. Pakistan’s most famous home victory against India has come at Karachi. It was Karachi crowd that kept Pakistan in the chase throughout that epic pursuit of 350 in the first ODI in 2004. They are the most pro Pakistan crowd when it comes to India/Pakistan clashesPSL games were played infront of empty stand at Karachi . Lahore was Full House so this is right decision
No, what about getting a proper home advantage crowd for once having suffered 2 decades of 90-10% pro India crowds?What about being optimistic and think that pakistan can win
Champions trophy has been changed to t20 format for next year.. no market for odis since Ind lost final last year !Ia this confirm that champion trophy will play in ODI format?
India is going to play every match at one venue so if Pakistan vs India game will be full bouse at Karachi then what about others game ? Lahore is best possible venue to host the indian matches as indian fans can go there bcz of nearest possible city.It’s Pakistan v India, how could you assume this game won’t get sold out at Karachi? They are the most realistic crowed in Pakistan. Pakistan’s most famous home victory against India has come at Karachi. It was Karachi crowd that kept Pakistan in the chase throughout that epic pursuit of 350 in the first ODI in 2004. They are the most pro Pakistan crowd when it comes to India/Pakistan clashes
I think the plan should be to not have India fansIndia is going to play every match at one venue so if Pakistan vs India game will be full bouse at Karachi then what about others game ? Lahore is best possible venue to host the indian matches as indian fans can go there bcz of nearest possible city.
Lol what has the india lose do with The Formats? Your obsession with india in every post is mind blowing .Champions trophy has been changed to t20 format for next year.. no market for odis since Ind lost final last year !
Indian fan's will be there if Pakistan allowed the visa .I think the plan should be to not have India fans
It should work both ways
Yeah there is a visa process which Indian fans have to follow just like Pakistan fans have to follow for India. There should be no compromise or leniency in the process. Pakistan has every right to take its security seriously just like India do.Indian fan's will be there if Pakistan allowed the visa .
I think Pakistan will allow becouse they can't dictated the terms with BCCI
Hold on ! This attitude can lead to change the venue as BCCI have every right to not send the indian team for Pakistan due to security issues.Yeah there is a visa process which Indian fans have to follow just like Pakistan fans have to follow for India. There should be no compromise or leniency in the process. Pakistan has every right to take its security seriously just like India do.
Fair enough. That’s fine if they feel unsafe.Hold on ! This attitude can lead to change the venue as BCCI have every right to not send the indian team for Pakistan due to security issues.
I think I'll be in Lahore for CT during this time next year. So I don't really mind it. But I get your viewpoint, however karachi ain't pulling an Ahmedabad mate. Not gonna happen.Stupid venue
Pak v India should be in Karachi. It’s the most pro Pakistan city. You are going to repay the Indians with the wholesome Lahore crowd after they made a complete mockery of you in Ahmedabad?
Yeah they can sing that whilst India probably plays Oman or Afghanistan to fill in during the time they opt out of the CT being held in PakistanOh the naadaan parindey here arguing whether India should be playing in Lahore or Karachi lmao.
I can already hear the Emirati Indians singing "Chak de" after India wins it at the Dubai International stadium.
Nah i want Rohit, Virat to play once in Pakistan.this is last apportunity for themOh the naadaan parindey here arguing whether India should be playing in Lahore or Karachi lmao.
I can already hear the Emirati Indians singing "Chak de" after India wins it at the Dubai International stadium.
Pakistan fans are need to accept that there is no ICC trophy without india .this is the truth which Pakistan fans can't digest .Yeah they can sing that whilst India probably plays Oman or Afghanistan to fill in during the time they opt out of the CT being held in Pakistan
It’s the same with Pakistan. Indian fans should understand too.Pakistan fans are need to accept that there is no ICC trophy without india .this is the truth which Pakistan fans can't digest .
Yeah they can sing that whilst India probably plays Oman or Afghanistan to fill in during the time they opt out of the CT being held in Pakistan
Nah i want Rohit, Virat to play once in Pakistan.this is last apportunity for them
Time will tell.If you honestly believe ICC and the other boards will let go off the cash cow i.e India out of an ICC tournament, then I have a Taj Mahal you can buy from me for a billion $.
Heck PCB itself might protest against such a deal.
True but BCCI can dictated the term when comes to hosting the venue due to financial power but Pakistan can't .It’s the same with Pakistan. Indian fans should understand too.
Let’s see.True but BCCI can dictated the term when comes to hosting the venue due to financial power but Pakistan can't .
If BCCI don't want to send Indian team to Pakistan for CT trophy then ICC don't have any others option but agree to hybrid model .
Its not in hand for BCCI but Indian government and 9th June incident ( reasi terrorist attack) was make sure that indian government is most likely not send Indian team. But lets see still time leftLet’s see.
I don’t think those BCCI senior officials visited Pakistan for absolutely no reason if their stance is the same from 10 years ago
What is your argument?Its not in hand for BCCI but Indian government and 9th June incident ( reasi terrorist attack) was make sure that indian government is most likely not send Indian team. But lets see still time left
This is simple . Indian government is not allowed indian team to go for Pakistan which BCCI will tell to ICC .What is your argument?
ICC will have to accept what BCCI proposes? Or BCCI has to follow IND Gov’s orders?
Which one is it?
That’s an ACC matter,You can take example from recent Asia Cup
OK…This is simple . Indian government is not allowed indian team to go for Pakistan which BCCI will tell to ICC .
Alright .lets see I'm all for indian team to go there and play .That’s an ACC matter,
The ICC is a completely separate organisation
That’s going to happen 100% in Lahore.Alright .lets see I'm all for indian team to go there and play .
pakistan ko pakistan main harane ka maja hi kuch or ayega
Karachi ,Lahore , Pindi play any where pakistan want to play , We wil beat anywhere in pakistan .That’s going to happen 100% in Lahore.
Karachi main hara ke dikhao
Time will tell.
Oh well, my point is about making the best of home conditions from a Pakistan pov just like India did in 2023
Broadcasters won't be happyOK…
So India can skip this tournament? Not all ICC members are playing it. Sri Lanka can step in. What’s the issue?
Champions trophy has been changed to t20 format for next year.. no market for odis since Ind lost final last year !
India defeated pak thrice in Karachi already.( 2004,2006, 2008 asia cup).unless it swings ,it must be a cakewalk as pak pitches are much flatter. India sho6ld be in a good positionThat’s going to happen 100% in Lahore.
Karachi main hara ke dikhao
This just tells you how things are managed in Pakistan. Normally, you would have a Project Manager overseeing a renovation like this along with a detailed schedule. The fact that Naqvi has to drop by and tell them to work at night is ridiculous. Seems like pcb just hired a bunch of labourers and told them to start breaking things. There is no plan, another major surgery will be required a month before the tournament startsChairman PCB visits Gaddafi Stadium to inspect upgradation work
Lahore, 12 June 2024: Chairman PCB Mohsin Naqvi visited the headquarters of the Pakistan Cricket, Gaddafi Stadium Lahore on Tuesday night to inspect the ongoing upgradation work. Director International Cricket Usman Wahla and GM Infrastructure were also present on this occasion.
Chairman PCB expressed his displeasure about the work not being carried out at night and instructed the relevant stakeholders to work 24/7. He said that this huge project can only be completed on time by working round the clock.
He also visited the various parts of the main building which is being dismantled and demanded for the upgradation timeline to be followed strictly. He also directed that due to the bursting of the water pipe under the main building of the stadium, quick drainage of the accumulated water should be ensured and the speed of the work should be accelerated.
Chairman PCB said that more resources need to be mobilised to complete the upgradation work of the stadium well before Champions Trophy 2025.
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This. The cold reality without taking sides. This is the reality. Can play it on a loop and this should be a sticky post.Sigh
The Indian government will not allow the Indian team to travel to Pakistan.
The BCCI will follow this “guidance”.
The ICC will not countenance the thought of the lost revenue from India if they are not there.
So…
1) There will be a hybrid solution for India
2) The whole tournmant will be moved from Pakistan (far less likely).
Indian controls world cricket. Australia and England will not do anything that annoys India.
The three big countries have the whole thing sown up between them and will support each other.
All other countries are totally and utterly irrelevant.
The cold reality.
I do not thing they will be upset or there is even a need for them to be upset. Disney has been doing these things for a long time. I am sure their contracts already have specifics in place. This will enable them to just walk away from the contract without repercussions.The problem is not as simple as made out.
Ideally, the CT 2025 should be held in Pakistan without India if they refuse.
However, broadcasters are not going to be happy without a tournament involving India.
Can Pakistan compensate the broadcasters and ICC for potential revenue losses if India opts out?
If Pakistan can, CT 25 can be held in Pakistan without India.
Otherwise, I dont see it happening in Pakistan.
Just because BCCI have lots of money and can make day to night and night to day, destabilize/close ICC or put sanction cricket boards doesn't mean PCB or other board has to agree like Gospel truth. No one rule the World/people forever (i.e British, Feros...) Everything has end.Posters here will not like it but the outcome will be a hybrid model. Dont see BCCI sending the Ind team to Pak. It is what it is. End of the day . PCB with all its macho talk will agree to the hybrid model just like the asia cup. Dont shoot the messenger
Recent spike in terrorism in Kashmir is not going to help the case for Indian participation in CTThe problem is not as simple as made out.
Ideally, the CT 2025 should be held in Pakistan without India if they refuse.
However, broadcasters are not going to be happy without a tournament involving India.
Can Pakistan compensate the broadcasters and ICC for potential revenue losses if India opts out?
If Pakistan can, CT 25 can be held in Pakistan without India.
Otherwise, I dont see it happening in Pakistan.
Everything has an end, but the rulers dictate the terms when they are in power that also a fact.Just because BCCI have lots of money and can make day to night and night to day, destabilize/close ICC or put sanction cricket boards doesn't mean PCB or other board has to agree like Gospel truth. No one rule the World/people forever (i.e British, Feros...) Everything has end.
True ICC didn’t even have proper funds until CT in BD 1998 thanks to Dalmiya.Everything has an end, but the rulers dictate the terms when they are in power that also a fact.
Till 90s England and Australia had a veto in ICC.
If CT goes ahead without India, ICC will incur so much loss that it will be death of any future ICC tournament in Pakistan forever.This Champions Trophy should happen in Pakistan. The BCCI needs to either play in Pakistan or stay away from the tournament. It is PCB's right to host the tournament and it must be honored. Let us hope the ICC stands up for justice and not succumb to the pressure from the sponsors.
It is ICC's responsibility to market the tournament and find sponsors. If they can break even or minimize the loss, I believe they should move ahead just for being fair to the host nation. It will also set the right tone for the future tournaments. Two or three nations cannot hold an international sport hostage.If CT goes ahead without India, ICC will incur so much loss that it will be death of any future ICC tournament in Pakistan forever.
It has only made sure that Indian Govt. wont even think of allowing Indian team to visit PAK. The backlash would be so severe in India. The citizens as well as the Indian Govt. share the same sentiment on this..Who knows there might be another strike by Indian forces after the recent terror attacks that would make sure that even Pakistan citizens wont be interested regarding participation of Indian team. Indian cricket team is not going to visit Pak anytime soon.Recent spike in terrorism in Kashmir is not going to help the case for Indian participation in CT
Lahore is the only real city in Pakistan. Even Karachi's own people don't want to live in Karachi. Pakistan v India, if it happens needs to be in Lahore.Stupid venue
Pak v India should be in Karachi. It’s the most pro Pakistan city. You are going to repay the Indians with the wholesome Lahore crowd after they made a complete mockery of you in Ahmedabad?
And you will pay the money they will lost due to india. Right lolPakistan should host CT 2025 without any hybrid model. If India don't want to come, Sri Lanka can replace them maybe (since they finished 9th last World Cup).
If ICC makes it a hybrid model, Pakistan should withdraw out of self-respect.
The problem is not as simple as made out.
Ideally, the CT 2025 should be held in Pakistan without India if they refuse.
However, broadcasters are not going to be happy without a tournament involving India.
Can Pakistan compensate the broadcasters and ICC for potential revenue losses if India opts out?
If Pakistan can, CT 25 can be held in Pakistan without India.
Otherwise, I dont see it happening in Pakistan.
Just like PCB sued BCCI for lost revenues in the past. This lawsuit will have the same logic and thrown out!Why would it be Pakistans job to compensate the other boards for lost revenue
And Pakistan still losing the gameThe idea of seeing Pakistan v India at Lahore is still too much for me to imagine. But it would be incredible if it happened. I don't think it will be anything close to India v Pak at Ahmedabad. But it would be great seeing Pakistan play India at home again after 16 years with a packed, partisan home crowd.