[VIDEOS/PICTURES] IHC grants Imran bail for 2 weeks in Al-Qadir Trust case

still he cant be trusted. If the army says we will support you and let you win, will Imran accept that? Thats the question, if he does take their support and continues to favor the army than he will be taking another u turn.

If he comes to power, will he be removing the army act? If he wants to take revenge from ppp and pmln so be it, but will he take revenge with the help of army or isi? If he takes their help, again he would be empowring the army and isi.

He cant be trusted because he did the same thing in past, he bashed the army, but took their money and help to come into power and allowed Peca and other things to empower them. He allowed the army to use TLP against PMLN which was wrong on soo many levels.

The trust is not there for him from my side.

Yes, but this time he has gone to totally different level of opposition. The truce between Imran Khan and establishment is now to the level of Impossible.

PMLN, PPP may have taken those uturns on several occasions but after today's absurd kidnapping of Imran Khan by establishment, don't think the history will favor the military high command anymore.
 
So what’s going to happen now?

PTI supporters/masses go to civil war against the Army…

Maybe the Army looses or is weakened,

Whilst India make further inroads into POK…or the US decide here is the opportunity to provide the people of Pakistan with ‘democracy’ and ‘liberation’ from the tyrannical reign of the Armed forces?

How exactly would you like this to pan out?

“Further inroads” should suggest India made inroads are you suggesting India made inroads?
 
So what’s going to happen now?

PTI supporters/masses go to civil war against the Army…

Maybe the Army looses or is weakened,

Whilst India make further inroads into POK…or the US decide here is the opportunity to provide the people of Pakistan with ‘democracy’ and ‘liberation’ from the tyrannical reign of the Armed forces?

How exactly would you like this to pan out?

what are you even saying?

India is not entering into this mess. India is not looking to start a war, they are making economic deals worldwide. You dont start a war just because you feel like it. If a war happens all of Indians economic deals will go down the drain. That is not happening.

Why will US intervene here? They dont have any reason, infact US backs the millitary dictators of our countyr more than the politicians as the millitary of Pakistan is pro USA.
 
Yes, but this time he has gone to totally different level of opposition. The truce between Imran Khan and establishment is now to the level of Impossible.

PMLN, PPP may have taken those uturns on several occasions but after today's absurd kidnapping of Imran Khan by establishment, don't think the history will favor the military high command anymore.

Give it 5-10 more years , I heard similar things during Mush’s last era.
 
“However for Army influence to be eliminated, if Imran gets elected and not selected this time, he needs to be conisstent with his policies where he eliminates the powers of the army, he allows army to be critisized and army follows the civilian govts order and doesnt involve in treachary against the nation. For example the army made a political party called MQM to remove influence of PPP from sindh, this was an illegal act and it destabilized karachi in the long run.”

Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s never going to happen [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]
 
That university case is still a very legal case, and in that case Imran is guilty along with Malik Riaz

But the thing is that case is ongoing, he has been arrested because he talked against the army. That case is just being used right now, but Imran isn't innocent in that case.

He basically facilitated Malik Riaz with that money and htan Malik riaz gave him land to make univeristy which has only 35 students.

My univeristy did not offer a course if only less than 10 students signed up for it

These cases are such rubbish that if they had legs he would have been nailed by Bajwa. It's one of 150 cases, who made these cases and why? You don't fake cases if you have real ones like Omni group, Mayfair flats or TTs. It's the reason the mafia families backed the coup. As Latif said we were forced to back the coup.
 
Imran Khan was arrested for defaming the Pak Army which is not allowed as per Pakistani law. A law that he created when he was PM.

This is a spectacular own goal by Imran Khan.

true true, it is abit ironic.

but still the supporters did the damage on army that no other supporter could had done when PTI was in power . So credit where its due. But we know in the long run Imran will appease the army, his party members are mumed
 
Yes, but this time he has gone to totally different level of opposition. The truce between Imran Khan and establishment is now to the level of Impossible.

PMLN, PPP may have taken those uturns on several occasions but after today's absurd kidnapping of Imran Khan by establishment, don't think the history will favor the military high command anymore.

bro, Imran can take a u turn on the army if the army supports him. Dont trust him blindly.
 
“Why will US intervene here? They dont have any reason, infact US backs the millitary dictators of our countyr more than the politicians as the millitary of Pakistan is pro USA.“

Give them a sniff and watch them crawl in [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]
 
“Why will US intervene here? They dont have any reason, infact US backs the millitary dictators of our countyr more than the politicians as the millitary of Pakistan is pro USA.“

Give them a sniff and watch them crawl in [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

Americans will not interfere to support IK here.. Pakistani people need to stop expecting help from outside, no one ever comes.
 
“However for Army influence to be eliminated, if Imran gets elected and not selected this time, he needs to be conisstent with his policies where he eliminates the powers of the army, he allows army to be critisized and army follows the civilian govts order and doesnt involve in treachary against the nation. For example the army made a political party called MQM to remove influence of PPP from sindh, this was an illegal act and it destabilized karachi in the long run.”

Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s never going to happen [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

The reality is that you guys support criminals and its a tacit acceptance,that your parties are part of the coup. Its ironic that you aren't calling on Billo and Nani to take on the Generals. 80% of PK is with IK and it makes no difference what you think he may or may not do.
 
These cases are such rubbish that if they had legs he would have been nailed by Bajwa. It's one of 150 cases, who made these cases and why? You don't fake cases if you have real ones like Omni group, Mayfair flats or TTs. It's the reason the mafia families backed the coup. As Latif said we were forced to back the coup.

they are not rubbish, especially when UK courts found Malik Riaz guilty and gave the money back to Pakistan. Why did Imran gave that money back to Malik Riaz?

You are not gonna question your leader because you blindly trust him, so no point off discussion or argument. The case is a real one and have been saying this since the last year that the only thing that can bring Imran done will be this case.

Alot of ppers didnt even know about this case and though it was a small issue.
 
“Why will US intervene here? They dont have any reason, infact US backs the millitary dictators of our countyr more than the politicians as the millitary of Pakistan is pro USA.“

Give them a sniff and watch them crawl in [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

bro be logical here. US is more focused on South China areas and Russia and they back millitary leaders in Pakistan.
 
Americans will not interfere to support IK here.. Pakistani people need to stop expecting help from outside, no one ever comes.

I guess you don’t understand how the US works. They don’t interfere to support anyone but their own interests. I’m sure they could do well with strategic outposts in Pakistan for their war with China
 
bro, Imran can take a u turn on the army if the army supports him. Dont trust him blindly.

Nope, this isn't a blind trust. This is after a thorough analysis of past, present and probable future.
 
they are not rubbish, especially when UK courts found Malik Riaz guilty and gave the money back to Pakistan. Why did Imran gave that money back to Malik Riaz?

You are not gonna question your leader because you blindly trust him, so no point off discussion or argument. The case is a real one and have been saying this since the last year that the only thing that can bring Imran done will be this case.

Alot of ppers didnt even know about this case and though it was a small issue.

Irrespective its not such a big case considering all the other cases against every Pakistani leader.

This is a joke of an arrest
 
they are not rubbish, especially when UK courts found Malik Riaz guilty and gave the money back to Pakistan. Why did Imran gave that money back to Malik Riaz?

You are not gonna question your leader because you blindly trust him, so no point off discussion or argument. The case is a real one and have been saying this since the last year that the only thing that can bring Imran done will be this case.

Alot of ppers didnt even know about this case and though it was a small issue.

The case isn't real. If it was then you wouldn't have waited a year. Look at the cases in between this and April. One was that we will take legal action against the judge that allowed torture of Azam Swati. You really think they would have waited a year?
 
I guess you don’t understand how the US works. They don’t interfere to support anyone but their own interests. I’m sure they could do well with strategic outposts in Pakistan for their war with China

Which is why they would support the Generals who they can control than the political leadership.

It’s becoming a well known fact how Pakistani Establishment is deeply involved with Western Nations.(always was the case now it’s for everyone to see).
 
I generally detest Republic TV but can you blame them for this?

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End of Pakistan as we know it?

A democratic prosperous republic of Pakistan, freed from the shackles of the Army, in making?
 
The case isn't real. If it was then you wouldn't have waited a year. Look at the cases in between this and April. One was that we will take legal action against the judge that allowed torture of Azam Swati. You really think they would have waited a year?

the case has been going on for a long time, like i said no point in discussion cause you will see it blindly. leave it
 
Irrespective its not such a big case considering all the other cases against every Pakistani leader.

This is a joke of an arrest

it is a big case. basically the guy who called out corruption finally had a foreing court that proved the corruptio of one guy and he takes the money and gives it back to the same guy. Why? Because he was the establishments puppet
 
the case has been going on for a long time, like i said no point in discussion cause you will see it blindly. leave it

Just like the Toshakhana case until the truth came out and then everyone realised it was just rubbish. These have no legs, and you wouldn't have to get 2000 commandos to arrest him.
 
the case has been going on for a long time, like i said no point in discussion cause you will see it blindly. leave it

Malik Riaz was fined billions by the SC because he committed corruption in conjunction with the PPP in Sindh, when the billions started to recovered Billo wanted his share. We remember these things. This case has no legs.
 
So what’s going to happen now?

PTI supporters/masses go to civil war against the Army…

Maybe the Army looses or is weakened,

Whilst India make further inroads into POK…or the US decide here is the opportunity to provide the people of Pakistan with ‘democracy’ and ‘liberation’ from the tyrannical reign of the Armed forces?

How exactly would you like this to pan out?

Further inroads?
 
Just like the Toshakhana case until the truth came out and then everyone realised it was just rubbish. These have no legs, and you wouldn't have to get 2000 commandos to arrest him.

Malik Riaz was fined billions by the SC because he committed corruption in conjunction with the PPP in Sindh, when the billions started to recovered Billo wanted his share. We remember these things. This case has no legs.
like always you dont know about the case or anything and than divert it to some other topic.

Yes yes i know you imran and wont believe anything against him, thats why i dont waste my time arguing with as its a waste of time.

Anyways, you cant be bothered to even protest agaisnt Nawaz Shareef at his house.. You talk alot, but you cant do anything.

You even had the gal to questions the locals who today did the unthinkable. Atleast stand in the protest in the back somewhere if you are too scared of losing your job or getting arrested and want to be in the good shoes of the law
 
Pakistan: The Frontier Corps' public school in Dir has been also torched.

Corps commander's house in #Lahore and #Bannu set on fire by protesters.

⚡Schools and colleges in Pakistan have been closed down till further notice, as Pakistan moves towards Civil War.


⚡ After media blackout, reports of multiple shootouts at various locations and genocide of civilians by Pakistani Army.

⚡ Terrifying visuals from Karachi as clashes between protestors and Pakistani occupying forces escalate.


Heavy firing reported in Bannu Cantt. Area in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

Reportedly mass genocide of civilians ongoing by Pakistani Army.

⚡ Chinese Armed Forces guarding key Chinese investments in Pakistani territory have sounded highest alert, as Pakistani PM and Pakistani Army General have fled the country.

Chinese are clueless as to who is in control of the ground situation right now, as Pakistani soldiers are running away from key positions.

⚡ Emergency maybe declared anytime now under Article 245 in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Many PTI protesters reportedly killed.

Protesters in Pakistan break a statue and war memorial at GHQ.

Symbols of Pakistan Army were also being torn across pakistan.

⚡ After Pakistan in turmoil, PM Shehbaz Sharif extends his stay in London instead of returning to his country. 🤷🏼*♂️

𝐌𝐀𝐑𝐒𝐇𝐀𝐋 𝐋𝐀𝐖 𝐓𝐎 𝐁𝐄 𝐃𝐄𝐂𝐋𝐀𝐑𝐄𝐃 𝐈𝐍 𝐏𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐍

Shoot at sight orders to be given by tonight.

Imran Khan to be charged for treason by Pakistan Army.

Reportedly, Pak army shot 6 people at ISI's Hamza camp.



The situation is getting tense in Quetta PTI’s protest against the arrest of Imran Khan in front of Askari check post cantt.

The protesters claim that
Pakistani Army carrying out a genocide of civilians, by shooting directly in the heads and

Another video of Pakistani forces dragging a lone woman protester like cowards in Lahore, and sexually assaulting her has surfaced.

⚡ Twitter and several other social media apps blocked in Pakistan, as Armed forces start a brutal assault and mass shooting protestors.

⚡ Internet blocked in Pakistan now, as Pakistani forces start mass shooting and massacre of innocent civilians, fighting against a tyrannical establishment.

Lahore Corps Commander's official residence was a property of national significance and heritage for Pakistanis.

It was a property originally bought by Muhammad Ali Jinnah in 1943.

And it was burned down by protestors. 🤷🏼*♂️

Internet shutdowns have started in Pakistan, as Pak forces have started mass shooting protestors randomly.

Situation deteriorates in Quetta as PTI Supporters and security forces continue to clash. There are reports of at least 4 deaths in Quetta and 1 in Faizabad & more than a dozen injuries, caused by gunfire.

Pakistani Army Corps Commander House in Lahore has been completely set ablaze.

Reports suggest that Pakistani Army and Police officials have gone against each other in several parts of Pakistan.

There are initial reports which suggests that several Police officials were killed by Pakistani Army officials.

While Pakistani Army want Imran Khan to be hanged tonight, Pakistani Police officials are supporting the Imran Khan.



Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s assembly square, the monument that replicates the Chaghi mountain has been set on fire in Peshawar by protestors.


Sources say that former Pakistani PM Imran Khan is being subjected to brutal torture by the imperialist slave Pakistani army, at an unknown location.

He was not only humiliated by being force-fed pork, but also stripped naked and beaten by intelligence officers.

Total media blackout in Pakistan, electricity pulled off in different parts of the country to curb protests & coverage of Imran Khan’s arrest.

Sources say Pakistani Army has threatened to jail news channel owners, if they report any news of Imran Khan's arrest.


Curfew imposed in several parts of Pakistan, as protestors get more violent.

Unverified reports claims Pakistani Army has started shooting live bullets on protestors.


Reportedly, a Memorial for Pak Army Martyrs have been Vandalised in Pakistan.

The Hate and Anger for its Own Military is evident.

Protestors threaten to burn down the whole Pakistan, if the American slaves ie: Pakistani Army doesn't leave Imran Khan.


Several media reports claims Former Pak PM Imran Khan has been flown to unknown location in an Army helicopter.

Pakistani qaum fears Imran Khan maybe killed and dumped in the sea by the tyrannical Pakistani Army.

Like the imperialistic American forces invaded Pakistan and took away Osama bin Laden and threw him in the sea.

Social media users say Former Pak PM Imran Khan will be brought in front of firing squad of Pakistan Army and may be assassinated over night.


According to eyewitnesses, Former Pak PM Imran Khan was dragged by his hair and thrashed by Pakistani Rangers, before taking him to jail.

There is a threat to Imran Khan's life, as he could be assassinated by Pak Army, at unknown locations.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if many fires are false flag attacks to declare Martial Law, the Establishment is like any in world.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if many fires are false flag attacks to declare Martial Law, the Establishment is like any in world.

naa, they burned the cor commanders house.

Still sucks that not enough people in pindi to target GHQ, all of them are sitting at D chowk which serves no purpose at all
 
According to reports, there was no one at GHQ only less than 100 people.... Who are being tear gassed. Looks like the protest might not live up as I had hoped for. Its a shame really.
 
Hours after PTI chief Imran Khan was arrested in the capital from the court’s premises on Tuesday, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) declared the move legal.

Imran’s lawyer Faisal Fareed Chaudhry also confirmed the court’s decision to Al Jazeera.

“The court declared the arrest legal. We are consulting with party leaders to decide the future course of action,” he said.

A short written order from the court is awaited on the decision, which was reserved earlier today, with IHC Chief Justice Aamer Farooq making the observation that if the PTI chief was arrested illegally, “he will have to be released”.
 
At least one Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) worker was killed and six others injured on Tuesday during a firing incident at a protest rally in Quetta.

Highly charged supporters of former Prime Minister Imran Khan blocked the main Quetta Airport Aoad to protest against his arrest.

"There was a firing incident inside the PTI rally," a senior police officer told The Express Tribune, requesting anonymity as he was not authorised to speak to the media.

PTI Balochistan President Munir Baloch accused the police of firing on the protesters, demanding an investigation into the incident.

Also read Imran Khan’s dramatic arrest at IHC triggers countrywide protests

Enraged demonstrators burnt two police vehicles parked near the rally and pelted stones as police fired tear gas to disperse the highly charged supporters of the PTI chief.

Protesters also burnt tires on the main Airport Road Chowk, suspending traffic between Quetta and other parts of Balochistan. The protesters also blocked main national highways in Balochistan linking the country to neighbouring Iran and Afghanistan.

A Balochistan police spokesperson said that three police officers were also injured when protesters fired on them.

The Balochistan government has imposed Section 144 to maintain order.

"The government banned all kinds of political rallies and display of weapons," Balochistan Home Minister Ziaullah Langove told The Express Tribune.

He stressed that no one would be allowed to take the law into their hands and that the government's writ would be ensured at all costs.

Meanwhile, Chief Minister Balochistan Mir Quddus Bizenjo directed all deputy commissioners to maintain law and order. He stated that elements creating law and order problems should be brought to justice.
 
The European Union (EU) emphasised on the exhibition of ‘restrain and cool headedness’ after former premier and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan’s arrest sparked protests across the country.

Reacting to Imran Khan’s arrest, the spokesperson of the European External Action Service (EEAS) said in a statement, “In the context of Tuesday’s arrest of former Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan, the European Union emphasises that in such difficult and tense times, restraint and cool headedness are needed.”

“Pakistan’s challenges can only be addressed and its pathway can only be determined by Pakistanis themselves, through sincere dialogue and in line with the rule of law,” it concluded.
 
Hours after PTI chief Imran Khan was arrested in the capital from the court’s premises on Tuesday, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) declared the move legal.

Imran’s lawyer Faisal Fareed Chaudhry also confirmed the court’s decision to Al Jazeera.

“The court declared the arrest legal. We are consulting with party leaders to decide the future course of action,” he said.

A short written order from the court is awaited on the decision, which was reserved earlier today, with IHC Chief Justice Aamer Farooq making the observation that if the PTI chief was arrested illegally, “he will have to be released”.

Justice kept asking for his personal appearance, now we know why. He was the same judge that cleared Nani, which the Noora had predicted such certainty even though she faked deeds and had undeclared properties.
 
The European Union (EU) emphasised on the exhibition of ‘restrain and cool headedness’ after former premier and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan’s arrest sparked protests across the country.

Reacting to Imran Khan’s arrest, the spokesperson of the European External Action Service (EEAS) said in a statement, “In the context of Tuesday’s arrest of former Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan, the European Union emphasises that in such difficult and tense times, restraint and cool headedness are needed.”

“Pakistan’s challenges can only be addressed and its pathway can only be determined by Pakistanis themselves, through sincere dialogue and in line with the rule of law,” it concluded.

Sure but during Libyan terrorism they forgot about this “cool headedness” and destroyed a well off country.

I can’t recall but i remember shaking my head by their statements back then..
 
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why are pti leaders quit. Pathetic leadership really. Than again , they were part of Mushis cabinet.
 
According to some reports, the imported government are planning to arrest Imran's wife.

If the above reports of IK being fed Pork and stripped are true, this is truly the end of Pakistan as a viable nation.

How anyone can support these evil clowns is beyond me.
 
why are pti leaders quit. Pathetic leadership really. Than again , they were part of Mushis cabinet.

You want all the leadership to be wiped out so your uncle Zadari can continue his loot while you are going broke?

Imran is a great man but he is a man, the movement will not end by them killing IK.
 
You want all the leadership to be wiped out so your uncle Zadari can continue his loot while you are going broke?

Imran is a great man but he is a man, the movement will not end by them killing IK.

We all know who is pulling his strings
He wants the British Pakistani's to pave the way for the return of the PPP...

I called him a traitor in another thread I stand by that statement.
 
You want all the leadership to be wiped out so your uncle Zadari can continue his loot while you are going broke?

Imran is a great man but he is a man, the movement will not end by them killing IK.

Oh come on yaar, supporting Andrew Tate is immoral, but supporting Zardari/Shareef is janaati and a step towards moral kind.
 
We all know who is pulling his strings
He wants the British Pakistani's to pave the way for the return of the PPP...

I called him a traitor in another thread I stand by that statement.

I agree, anyone who is supporting these crooks in power after today are nothing but traitors. They are the ones who should be behind bars not IK. The irony is their supporters are broke ,cant buy a new set of clothes but still continue supporting their loot for more wealth for them.

Oh come on yaar, supporting Andrew Tate is immoral, but supporting Zardari/Shareef is janaati and a step towards moral kind.

Its a common pattern, the supporters of evil will attack those who talk against evil.
 
You want all the leadership to be wiped out so your uncle Zadari can continue his loot while you are going broke?

Imran is a great man but he is a man, the movement will not end by them killing IK.

PTI's leadership should come out and support its supporters. WHat is the point of the PTI when its main guy is arrested and the pti leaders are telling do peaceful protest. Yes they should form a mumbati brigade outside Faizabad right?

So you fear that if they speak Army will wipe out PTIs leadership..... Atleast dont defend them if you support this party

The movement will exists only by the supporters. But party exists by the leadership not by the supporters. The party will cease to exist if Imran Khan is killed, because if the leadership of the aprty is saying do peaceful protest and are **** scared of the millitary that shows how messed up the party is without Imran.

Every Pti leader is giving stupid statements, they want the protestors to calm down and be peaceful.. That is jsut stupid
 
We all know who is pulling his strings
He wants the British Pakistani's to pave the way for the return of the PPP...

I called him a traitor in another thread I stand by that statement.

did you go and protested outside Nawazs residence? Or you just gonna sit here and talk?
 
PTI's leadership should come out and support its supporters. WHat is the point of the PTI when its main guy is arrested and the pti leaders are telling do peaceful protest. Yes they should form a mumbati brigade outside Faizabad right?

So you fear that if they speak Army will wipe out PTIs leadership..... Atleast dont defend them if you support this party

The movement will exists only by the supporters. But party exists by the leadership not by the supporters. The party will cease to exist if Imran Khan is killed, because if the leadership of the aprty is saying do peaceful protest and are **** scared of the millitary that shows how messed up the party is without Imran.

Every Pti leader is giving stupid statements, they want the protestors to calm down and be peaceful.. That is jsut stupid

Nobody is being fooled by your nonsense. You dont care about Pakistan or democracy or even your own health and wealth. Supporters of Zardari like you want PTI leaders to say stupid things, incriminate themselves, so they are arrested and vanished. If you bother to keep up, the PTI leaders have stated many times, IK is the red line, meaning things will get out of hand and people will fight back. The supporters know what to do.
 
Lets face it, the corrupt establishment feel IK is a threat, and they've neutered this threat of IK just in time before the next GE. Or at least they think they have, little do IK haters know this move has just galvanised IK.
 
Nobody is being fooled by your nonsense. You dont care about Pakistan or democracy or even your own health and wealth. Supporters of Zardari like you want PTI leaders to say stupid things, incriminate themselves, so they are arrested and vanished. If you bother to keep up, the PTI leaders have stated many times, IK is the red line, meaning things will get out of hand and people will fight back. The supporters know what to do.

You talk alot, did you take part in the protest in UK? Probably not, so yyeh keep talking on social media.

PTI leadership has already said stupid things i dont need them too. THey said it they have distanced themselves from their own supporters.

I am supporting Imran here, not for you and the appeasement of the likes of you, but because his local supporters had the guts to take on the right people today and because Imrans arrest was wrong.
Funny thing is, overseas like you still fear the army so much that even after today you think they will be vanished. THats how pathetic and fearful you guys are.

Atleast the local supporters have guts and jazba. For all the talks by overseas Pakistanis, today the locals stood by their word and the overseas are still fearful of the army.

Also the red line isnt IK, red line is meant that the army red line has been crossed.
 
I'm not doing you any favours.

so you fear Pak army and also fear your own govt that protects altaf and nawaz and you dont want to lose your nationality.

Good to know. Dont support someone if you cant do a protest for them
 
PTI's leadership should come out and support its supporters. WHat is the point of the PTI when its main guy is arrested and the pti leaders are telling do peaceful protest. Yes they should form a mumbati brigade outside Faizabad right?

So you fear that if they speak Army will wipe out PTIs leadership..... Atleast dont defend them if you support this party

The movement will exists only by the supporters. But party exists by the leadership not by the supporters. The party will cease to exist if Imran Khan is killed, because if the leadership of the aprty is saying do peaceful protest and are **** scared of the millitary that shows how messed up the party is without Imran.

Every Pti leader is giving stupid statements, they want the protestors to calm down and be peaceful.. That is jsut stupid

Your not even subtle with your desperation. Billo is not going to be PM if the people of PK have anything to do with it. With 1%, his chances in a democratic are on par with me.
 
You talk alot, did you take part in the protest in UK? Probably not, so yyeh keep talking on social media.

PTI leadership has already said stupid things i dont need them too. THey said it they have distanced themselves from their own supporters.

I am supporting Imran here, not for you and the appeasement of the likes of you, but because his local supporters had the guts to take on the right people today and because Imrans arrest was wrong.
Funny thing is, overseas like you still fear the army so much that even after today you think they will be vanished. THats how pathetic and fearful you guys are.

Atleast the local supporters have guts and jazba. For all the talks by overseas Pakistanis, today the locals stood by their word and the overseas are still fearful of the army.

Also the red line isnt IK, red line is meant that the army red line has been crossed.

Im not from London. IF I was in Pakistan, I would unlike you.

Nobody fears the army any longer, however before you start celebrating, the army itself is infighting now. There could be coup soon.

Nobody can take a supporter of one of the biggest criminals in PAk history seriously.

You continue your nonsense, lets hope it gives you prosperity one day.
 
so you fear Pak army and also fear your own govt that protects altaf and nawaz and you dont want to lose your nationality.

Good to know. Dont support someone if you cant do a protest for them

You do type a lot of nonsense..

Fortunately most people here can see straight through you.
 
so you fear Pak army and also fear your own govt that protects altaf and nawaz and you dont want to lose your nationality.

Good to know. Dont support someone if you cant do a protest for them

You keep trolling us but what about your guys in govt. You know the guys that said democracy is the best revenge. When did this turn to boot polishing in the hope for crumbs. Are all ppp supporters as weak as you.
 
Your not even subtle with your desperation. Billo is not going to be PM if the people of PK have anything to do with it. With 1%, his chances in a democratic are on par with me.

im fine with that, if IK can take action against the army like his supporters are doing im fine with him coming with a majority.

question is will he do it or not
 
Im not from London. IF I was in Pakistan, I would unlike you.

Nobody fears the army any longer, however before you start celebrating, the army itself is infighting now. There could be coup soon.

Nobody can take a supporter of one of the biggest criminals in PAk history seriously.

You continue your nonsense, lets hope it gives you prosperity one day.

You do live in UK? cant spare a few quids for your leader?

PTI leadership is fearing the army and so are the likes of you. The army is loyal to its COAS, it can have disagreements but it wont infight
 
You do type a lot of nonsense..

Fortunately most people here can see straight through you.

you do talk alot, but you cant show up to a protest even after you leader was arrested. Your just a hypocrite
 
you do talk alot, but you cant show up to a protest even after you leader was arrested. Your just a hypocrite

You make a lot of assumptions.
Keep spouting your nonsense meanwhile everyone knows what's in your heart.

BUT it's never too late. You can still make up for your mistakes, when you do you can come back here and apologise to everyone single person you have offended and apologise for supporting people who are complicit in the murder of thousands of innocent Pakistani people.
 
You make a lot of assumptions.
Keep spouting your nonsense meanwhile everyone knows what's in your heart.

BUT it's never too late. You can still make up for your mistakes, when you do you can come back here and apologise to everyone single person you have offended and apologise for supporting people who are complicit in the murder of thousands of innocent Pakistani people.

did you apologise when your party allowed army act to come in palce and give bajwa extention?

did you apologise when your party used to follow what the army asked them to do?

did you apologise when your party used to say they and the army are on the same chapter?

did you apologise when your party celebrated Bajwas extention?

did you apologise when the army was funding the tlp and your party used the tlp to weaken sharifs govt?

did you apologise when army made imran to pass peca orders under which today he was arrested?

Yeh i thought so. Everything that Imran is going through, remember he allowed it in the law when he was in power.

Anyways, walk the talk and protest where you can. Or dont talk
 
did you apologise when your party allowed army act to come in palce and give bajwa extention?

did you apologise when your party used to follow what the army asked them to do?

did you apologise when your party used to say they and the army are on the same chapter?

did you apologise when your party celebrated Bajwas extention?

did you apologise when the army was funding the tlp and your party used the tlp to weaken sharifs govt?

did you apologise when army made imran to pass peca orders under which today he was arrested?

Yeh i thought so. Everything that Imran is going through, remember he allowed it in the law when he was in power.

Anyways, walk the talk and protest where you can. Or dont talk

I think you've lost it.
I live in the UK and voted for a UK parliamentary party.
 
You do live in UK? cant spare a few quids for your leader?

PTI leadership is fearing the army and so are the likes of you. The army is loyal to its COAS, it can have disagreements but it wont infight

Still dont get it. Its not about MY leader its about Pakistans future. You live there, you should be out on the streets but you are happy to remain poor and struggling with mental health because of this. Strange chap you are . I will join the protest tommorow if it continues.

Yes, the Bhuttos showed courage and nobody else will. How did that work out?
 
im fine with that, if IK can take action against the army like his supporters are doing im fine with him coming with a majority.

question is will he do it or not

Once again you are talking to someone who remembers when you celebrated when the army took over last year and you were desperate for this to happen. The reason I have such animosity to your views is that you are so dishonest.
 
Still dont get it. Its not about MY leader its about Pakistans future. You live there, you should be out on the streets but you are happy to remain poor and struggling with mental health because of this. Strange chap you are . I will join the protest tommorow if it continues.

Yes, the Bhuttos showed courage and nobody else will. How did that work out?

Got zia killed in the end.

I did my part of distributing a box of masks in one of the zones where shelling was happeing, as I was there for a docs appointment that streched till 7:45. Even though the guy arrested is not someone i would support as i dont trust him.

And dont worry, i might not even vote for PPP and have my vote wasted.
 
Once again you are talking to someone who remembers when you celebrated when the army took over last year and you were desperate for this to happen. The reason I have such animosity to your views is that you are so dishonest.

VONC was legal and PDM took over the govt legally.

Same happened in UK.

You can whine about that all you want, or you can ready how the VONC works
 
I think you've lost it.
I live in the UK and voted for a UK parliamentary party.

there you go for all the talk agianst PMLN, when it was time to protest against him, suddenly they dont care about Pakistani politics and only vote in the UK. But still want to pass comments on PMLN, but not walk the talk.

Good to know
 
According to some reports Imran is in PIMS Isb hospital. If true, he is badly hurt and could be in serious danger.
 
The only way out of this mess is an all party reconciliation. Inran is being put through what Sharif and Benazir were made to go through. You can lodge 100 cases against someone and he needs to get bail for each of them separately. This is a stupid law but neither PTI, PML Nor PPP removed it. Why ? And now show is on other foot.

Till the parties come together there will be no democracy. Does constitution matter ? Does Parliament matter ?
 
there you go for all the talk agianst PMLN, when it was time to protest against him, suddenly they dont care about Pakistani politics and only vote in the UK. But still want to pass comments on PMLN, but not walk the talk.

Good to know

Did you not get the irony? Did it go over your head?

Look there is absolutely no point in debating with you.
Your soul was exposed a long time ago and like said before, people see through you.
 
I think you've lost it.
I live in the UK and voted for a UK parliamentary party.

Well, that’s soft.

Yet you become so emotional for Pakistan government matters concerning PTI
 
there you go for all the talk agianst PMLN, when it was time to protest against him, suddenly they dont care about Pakistani politics and only vote in the UK. But still want to pass comments on PMLN, but not walk the talk.

Good to know

You keep telling us you are anti army, so tell us what you have done so far except trolling on here.
 
The only way out of this mess is an all party reconciliation. Inran is being put through what Sharif and Benazir were made to go through. You can lodge 100 cases against someone and he needs to get bail for each of them separately. This is a stupid law but neither PTI, PML Nor PPP removed it. Why ? And now show is on other foot.

Till the parties come together there will be no democracy. Does constitution matter ? Does Parliament matter ?

exactly. Still laws like PECA and army act exist
 
Just one piece of advice...
Read before posting

I did. I just read that you disassociated yourself with PTI affiliation for their matters in Pakistan by asserting your nationality as English? Did I read that wrong?
 
I did. I just read that you disassociated yourself with PTI affiliation for their matters in Pakistan by asserting your nationality as English? Did I read that wrong?

Rana, you know there is absolutely no love lost between us..
But I will nonetheless explain in very simple terms that I hope you'll understand.

There is a poster who is continuously trolling British Pakistani's, why? Probably because he has no other line of argument.

He then asks me a set of questions related to why I support PTI.
So my response was an ironic reply.

No one here knows where I or others on PP have been all day today... nor do they know what I or others do for the poor of Pakistan in the form of schooling, flood relief charity etc etc. So unless this poster is a mind reader then I think my reply was quiet poignant with, as I said earlier, more then a large helping of irony.

Meanwhile that same poster had continually run away from questions posed to him, has backed crooks and has exposed himself here on PP.

That's all.
 
Had it been Zardari or Shahbaz getting arrested, the same keyboard warriors here would be celebrating.

Time for Imran to learn what happens when you make a deal with the devil.
 
I don’t have much knowledge of the Pakistani legal system. Can people assist me with the following please:

- is it actually true that a law was recently created by Imran Khan / PTI that doesn’t allow you to criticise the army?

- if the above is true, who can approve a new law? Is it a percentage of MNAs that have to vote or can the PTI introduce a new law unchallenged?

- if this law actually exists then who can arrest? Is it Pakistani police or were the military given any powers to arrest civilians for treason / criticising the army?

- are we aware of the SSG / Rangers arresting any other civilians in recent times and for what crimes?

- what is the official policy / law on torture on arrested citizens? I presume officially it is illegal?

Finally can I have some gut instinct and opinions on:

- Assuming Imran Khan won’t be released anytime soon, do you feel believe he will be:

1) kept in custody unharmed
2) tortured / injured
3) killed
 
In 1971 Pakistan managed to lose 55% of its population thanks to the conduct of the Pakistan Army.

Now the former East Pakistan - Bangladesh - has a per capita GDP of $2469 compared with Pakistan’s $1658, placing Pakistan below the likes of Cameroon and Zimbabwe.

I don’t understand why any country’s army has any role in domestic affairs. Surely they exist only to protect you against foreign invasion.

The issue here isn’t Imran Khan. It’s why Pakistan has been run into the ground, with a lower per capita GDP than Haiti or the Congo, and why the people who actually control the country can’t even be questioned.

But if the only questions that you can ask are things like “should Imran Khan be arrested?” then you simply can’t address the problem, let alone fix it.

How low does Pakistan have to sink? It now has the 157th highest standard of living out of 192 countries. How much lower is it going to be allowed to go before real change can be discussed?
 
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