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the way he got out today is very much like Rohit sharma..

case of bad apple spoiling the bunch :(
 
Bullet Drive said:
That's not bad.

People are going on like he's averaged 15 or something.

If he averages 38 and has had a poor series, I'd love to see what a good series is like :D
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true ,

i think us pakistani's would take most of our players averaging 38,


is just set some ridiculous standards recently so any failure is shocking,
 
Yeah what a great batsman he is...

This is probably the longest lean patch a great batsman has gone through in the history of the game...

As big a minnow bashing flat track bully as they come....

India should never arrange back to back series against good teams, especially those with strong bowling units...makes it too obvious...

Each series against a good team should be followed by a bottom 5 team, your usual mix of bangers, kiwis, windies, lankans, and zims....
 
Zarrar said:
Yeah what a great batsman he is...

This is probably the longest lean patch a great batsman has gone through in the history of the game...

As big a minnow bashing flat track bully as they come....

India should never arrange back to back series against good teams, especially those with strong bowling units...makes it too obvious...

Each series against a good team should be followed by a bottom 5 team, your usual mix of bangers, kiwis, windies, lankans, and zims....
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what happened when you toured Lanka and WI recently?
 
India needs to play Sri Lanka soon.. otherwise their poster boy would be exposed infront of the whole world..
 
Zarrar said:
Yeah what a great batsman he is...

This is probably the longest lean patch a great batsman has gone through in the history of the game...

As big a minnow bashing flat track bully as they come....

India should never arrange back to back series against good teams, especially those with strong bowling units...makes it too obvious...

Each series against a good team should be followed by a bottom 5 team, your usual mix of bangers, kiwis, windies, lankans, and zims....
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I don't know about what series India plays.

But you can't expect Kohli to score 50 runs in every match. Which batsmen of ours does that?

An average of 38 against England is way better than what some Pakistani batsmen managed against England.

And he thrashed a hundred against us too remember?

Just because he had a poor series against us, doesn't mean he is ordinary.

He is arrogant, but I still think he is one of the better young batsmen around in the game.

And if Sri Lanka looks easy to you, I really don' think any batsmen of ours struck 140's and 150's vs Sri Lanka ??


Not praising Kohli, but there is no need to spiteful of him , after one failed series against Pakistan.

That's exactly what's called a KNEE JERK reaction. : )
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I don't know about what series India plays.

But you can't expect Kohli to score 50 runs in every match. Which batsmen of ours does that?

An average of 38 against England is way better than what some Pakistani batsmen managed against England.

And he thrashed a hundred against us too remember?

Just because he had a poor series against us, doesn't mean he is ordinary.

He is arrogant, but I still think he is one of the better young batsmen around in the game.

And if Sri Lanka looks easy to you, I really don' think any batsmen of ours struck 140's and 150's vs Sri Lanka ??


Not praising Kohli, but there is no need to spiteful of him , after one failed series against Pakistan.

That's exactly what's called a KNEE JERK reaction. : )
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Nice strawman's...nobody's expecting or asking him to score a 50 every match...

For a good/great batsman one every 2 or 3 games would be fine, at least 2 50s each series...

Now your boy is struggling to score even one in a series...

Also, that average of 38 is nothing to write home about, that number is obviously inflated by that one not out innings he played in a no pressure low run chase...

Also, this isn't knee jerk or spiteful, go back to the my earliest post in the thread...this has been my contention for some time...
 
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Zarrar said:
Nice strawman's...nobody's expecting or asking him to score a 50 every match...

For a good/great batsman one every 2 or 3 games would be fine, at least 2 50s each series...

Now your boy is struggling to score even one in a series...

Also, that average of 38 is nothing to write home about, that number is obviously inflated by that one not out innings he played in a no pressure low run chase...

Also, this isn't knee jerk or spiteful, go back to the my earliest post in the thread...this has been my contention for some time...
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Once again, no one is saying he is great yet. That is your own conclusion.

He is not my boy btw. I just like his style of play. Don't like his arrogance one bit. I'm actually glad Junaid owned him. That should tone him down a bit.

But he is one of the better young batsmen. If you stick around in Pakpassion for the next 2 or 3 years we will see who's right won't we ? : )

I see things for what they are. He was miserable against us. He was okayish against England.

But he is young. He is not 30 and at the twilight of his career.

Infact if you compare U.akmal to him, U.Akmal even has a better talent than him, but lacks a brain. Hence the difference in their outcomes : )
 
Varun said:
Who cares about the ODI stuff. His next assignment should be to score runs in the Australia tests when the series is alive, and not after we've well and truly lost it.
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Varun said:
Who cares about Kohli's ODI knocks. They don't interest me.

The only performances that count are his test performances, where he's been a middling player - hence I don't understand the hype.

Give him until the end of the Australia series, or the away South African tour to actually take a call on whether he has the potential to be a good player or not. Even in the meantime of which his ODI fifties and sixties are meaningless.
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Points still stand.
 
^ On a side note you could probably update your signature. No longer counting.
 
Lol fair enough. I forgot he is still soldiering on in Tests.
 
Is there no middle ground for Kohli? - he either gets called as a farcical mug of a batsman or as an overhyped all time great to be. He is neither at this time. He is a promising young chap with just 2 years of international exposure, he has a long way to go to be categorized along with the likes of Sachin, Dravid and he has ample opportunities to rectify any of his limitations due to his young age.
 
IndianWillow said:
Is there no middle ground for Kohli? - he either gets called as a farcical mug of a batsman or as an overhyped all time great to be. He is neither at this time. He is a promising young chap with just 2 years of international exposure, he has a long way to go to be categorized along with the likes of Sachin, Dravid and he has ample opportunities to rectify any of his limitations due to his young age.
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Well to be fair, there has been a lot of Indian led hype about him.

Agree totally with your post.
 
Random Aussie said:
Well to be fair, there has been a lot of Indian led hype about him.

Agree totally with your post.
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To be honest with you, Kohli gets as much criticism from Indians and is certainly not the most loved Indian player. Probably similar to the plight of Umar Akmal at PP. Many of my friends don't wait a moment to poke holes at Kohli over dismal performances (while conveniently ignoring some of his fanatastic knocks) and he has come under more fire for a rather lean spell of late.
 
IndianWillow said:
To be honest with you, Kohli gets as much criticism from Indians and is certainly not the most loved Indian player. Probably similar to the plight of Umar Akmal at PP. Many of my friends don't wait a moment to poke holes at Kohli over dismal performances (while conveniently ignoring some of his fanatastic knocks) and he has come under more fire for a rather lean spell of late.
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I have to admit that I am one of those as well. Virat Kohli is a wonderful batsman without a doubt, and when he does well I bow down to him, but it is his on-field behaviour and attitude that makes me react like, "ah´! The arrogant guy deserved it.", whenever he fails. Here´s an example......

DHONI183 said:
..... Virat Kohli - will be harsh to let my guns go off at him, but so happy to see this guy being brought down to (planet) earth:).
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^ http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5441070&postcount=16 ^

Whether my take on him is unfair is open to debate, as perhaps it is more so down to my dislike towards aggressive behaviour of his kind. Another post needs to be highlighted......

DHONI183 said:
Virat Kohli being Junaid Khan`s bunny this series is given anyway, but the guy has been bit of a victim of his own "soopa sta" attitude.......
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^ http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5452044&postcount=33 ^

Again, I could be wrong, but people do have some sort of dislike towards him for the reasons stated above:).

*I usually don´t enter these zillion-paged threads, but found IndianWillow´s post interesting one, one which allowed me to state my own observation on Virat Kohli.
 
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he averaged 24 in last 2 series, with the help of a not out in an easy chase. 0,6,7,15,37,77*,26,0 were his scores. While Jamshed scored 2 centuries in 3 matches on same pitches/conditions.
 
IPL 2013: Virat Kohli appointed captain of Royal Challengers Bangalore

Bangalore: IPL franchise Royal Challengers Bangalore appointed Virat Kohli as their captain for the upcoming sixth edition of Indian Premier League.

Kohli succeeds former New Zealand captain Daniel Vettori, who was at the helm during last season.

Kohli's appointment follows a productive IPL VI auction in which RCB strengthened their bowling line-up significantly and added capable all-rounders to increase the amount of flexibility in the selection of the playing squad.

"We are delighted to announce Virat as our captain. His hunger to learn, lead, motivate and set an example is unquestionable," team owner Vijay Mallya was quoted as saying in a press release.

Virat is the 11th highest run-scorer in overall IPL history with 1639 runs and a strike rate of 119.28.

He has scored eight half centiries and is also the 3rd highest run scorer in Champions League T20 history.

"Glad to be appointed captain of RCB. I thank the owners for reposing their faith and I am looking forward to the challenge and the responsibility to carry the team to greater heights," Kohli stated.

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Good move by RCB for confidence boosting.
I think 2 years from now after 2015 World Cup, he will be leading team India :msd
He just needs to keep his mouth shut sometimes and be calm to become a successful captain.
 
asif81 said:
he averaged 24 in last 2 series, with the help of a not out in an easy chase. 0,6,7,15,37,77*,26,0 were his scores. While Jamshed scored 2 centuries in 3 matches on same pitches/conditions.
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facing Dinda and facing Finn/Junaid are not same conditions
 
asif81 said:
he averaged 24 in last 2 series, with the help of a not out in an easy chase. 0,6,7,15,37,77*,26,0 were his scores. While Jamshed scored 2 centuries in 3 matches on same pitches/conditions.
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Were the bowlers the same too?
Jamshed has been exposed in SA with 2,46, 3 and 0.
 
He'll likely do well if the bowlers that players against Windies take part, barring Starc.
 
Good show so far in this innings. Some of those drives are pretty pleasing to the eye, seems to have worked on them after getting out to Swann, gap between the bat n pad is very less now while streching to the ball on front foot, batting with the master must have helped him in this innings, wish he carries it tomorrow... good luck champ
 
very good innings so far.looks like hes finally coming to terms with Test Cricket:)
 
There was this one moment between Pattinson & Kohli when the former was getting the reverse continously and one nipped the other way, Kohli got an outside edge but as it was played with soft hands & the ball died down. It was a superb spell from Pattinson & both had a wry smile after that delivery, these are the small things which make TEST cricket the best format :)
 
Good Innings from him. Maybe he was batting too low or maybe he has finally settled in or could very well be the case of one good innings per series? It's too early to say anything but nevertheless a very good Innings so far.
 
Finally he does something substantial at test level. ODI fanboys, this is the time when the hype starts, not while pounding pointless half-centuries in 50-over games against pansies of the format in England and Lanka.
 
Mobashir said:
Don't fight guys, Pattionson is better than both!
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At breaking down after an over or two, sure.

I like and rate these new Aussie bowlers, but they're useless if they have to stay out of the park for more periods of time than they're out there actually playing test cricket.
 
Varun said:
At breaking down after an over or two, sure.

I like and rate these new Aussie bowlers, but they're useless if they have to stay out of the park for more periods of time than they're out there actually playing test cricket.
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Already won 3 test matches for his team out of 7 played.
Two against India and one against New Zeland.

Kholi won one against New Zealand So far.
 
kungfu90 said:
Pattinson has better batting avg in Tests than this pajama cricket specialist. :facepalm:
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Mate have you seen Kohli's Test match record since 2012 JAN? His ODI's record has dipped in the last 1/ 2 ODI series but has been doing good in TEST format, his last Test innings was a century against ENG!
 
Well played Kohli. A very mature innings, also back to back test 100s now..Needs to remain consistent in this series and convert the good form to a few more 100s.
 
Why doesn't he carry on after scoring a ton? It's happened all three times so far.
 
Varun said:
Why doesn't he carry on after scoring a ton? It's happened all three times so far.
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Relax dude.

He will learn to apply himself more as the years go on.

Can't expect everything from him in his first 02 years.
 
This kid is going to go far. Very far. When you have the Little Master on the other end giving you tips, and you have the talent to make use of your potential, there is nothing that should stop Kohli from breaking record after record.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Relax dude.

He will learn to apply himself more as the years go on.

Can't expect everything from him in his first 02 years.
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Different formats, but Kohli has scored big ODI 100s but is yet to convert a test 100 into a really big one. And in each of his test 100s, he's given it away..early days yes but needs to get rid of that little glitch soon
 
cricketindiafan said:
Different formats, but Kohli has scored big ODI 100s but is yet to convert a test 100 into a really big one. And in each of his test 100s, he's given it away..early days yes but needs to get rid of that little glitch soon
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Agreed , it's that little glitch that sometimes becomes the difference between a Great and a just Good batsman .
 
Got carried away along with Dhoni in that little period but most importantly was involved in two good partnerships. Back to back TEST hundreds for him now, as predicted earlier him and Pujara are crucial batters for us in this series...
 
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/content/story/606302.html?CMP=chrome

Speaking of his own batting, Kohli said he had been disappointed to get out soon after his hundred and called it, "this block I am facing - when I get 100 I get out." He said, "As a batsman you would love to get big runs when you've scored century from a tough situation, you don't want to throw it away." His dismissal today - caught at mid-on by Mitchell Starc off Lyon - came because he got too close to the ball.
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Won both Cricinfo's jury's and people's choice awards for his unbelievable 133* and 183

Wadda player...seems to be maturing in Test's also..should wait till SA's tour..he did well i ODI's their
 
kungfu90 said:
Both in dead rubbers. :facepalm:
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Dude get ur facts rights...We got an outside chance when we won against SL with a bonus point..and after wining against Pakistan,SL only have to defeat Bangla......Both didn't happen.....Dead rubber or not it takes some special talent to be so destructive...

And i have noticed in many of ur post..u facepalm a lot...better change ur name to facepalm90 or something like that....:afridi
 
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Abhilash said:
Dude get ur facts rights...We got an outside chance when we won against SL with a bonus point..and after wining against Pakistan,SL only have to defeat Bangla......Both didn't happen.....Dead rubber or not it takes some special talent to be so destructive...

And i have noticed in many of ur post..u facepalm a lot...better change ur name to facepalm90 or something like that....:afridi
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He is a troll. Ignore him. Weird thing is he is Indian. Maybe the whitewashes were really hard hitting for the small hearted one :)))
 
iinm, it was something like 320ish in about 36th over and with 3 wickets down.. sigh.. no full 50 over play. :P
His booming cover drive was like rocket scorching through.

It was a shame that Malinga was denied a century :P
 
Abhilash said:
Dude get ur facts rights...We got an outside chance when we won against SL with a bonus point..and after wining against Pakistan,SL only have to defeat Bangla......Both didn't happen.....Dead rubber or not it takes some special talent to be so destructive...

And i have noticed in many of ur post..u facepalm a lot...better change ur name to facepalm90 or something like that....:afridi
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:))

Really don't like that smiley, it sounds rude, err it is a "non-smiley".
 
Pakistan & :umarakmal came to :kohli own backyard, conquered and destroyed him and went away with the cup & series win....:kohli could do nothing to stop the arch rivals. He is not good enough player against quality bowlers to make a difference. No wonder he is rubbish in test especially away from home.
 
Eye_Done said:
Pakistan & :umarakmal came to :kohli own backyard, conquered and destroyed him and went away with the cup & series win....:kohli could do nothing to stop the arch rivals. He is not good enough player against quality bowlers to make a difference. No wonder he is rubbish in test especially away from home.
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great,,,something to find comfort:yk,,,,cherish this ''videocon/coca cola cup''
 
Quite a good knock tonight from Kohli against Steyn, Ishant, Thisara, Mishra, White etc. Match winning 93 from 47. Played some very classy shots as always.
 
Haters gonna Hate....

But every team will love to have Kohli in their unit :kohli
 
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Kohli is going to be achieve a lot in the future.
Talented and Hard Working, learns from his mistakes quickly and has a very solid technique and a good cricketing mind.
 
The ipl has already ruined him. He has failed on foreign tours in Australia, England and southafrica. Not to mention he got whooped at home by Pakistan against experienced bowlers
 
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