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Romali_rotti said:
Actually having met Ponting personally a few weeks back and conversing with him, my opinion on him has changed he is a great person...
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I met Ponting way back when he was the spokesman for Rexona, which was made by a company I worked for in Sydney, Unilever. Most of these blokes are pretty down to earth when you meet them. I met McGrath on a flight from Sydney to LA, he had his then fiancee with him (after Jane's death).
 
For people who criticise kohli and compare him with xyz akmal :

Inzamam-ul-haq, Mohd. Yousaf and Younis Khan have combined scored 1(one) century in south africa.
Kohli is on the verge of scoring his 2nd in just his 1st test match in africa.

Take a chill pill. The buoy is here to stay.
 
OZGOD said:
I met Ponting way back when he was the spokesman for Rexona, which was made by a company I worked for in Sydney, Unilever. Most of these blokes are pretty down to earth when you meet them. I met McGrath on a flight from Sydney to LA, he had his then fiancee with him (after Jane's death).
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True, they are nothing like how they are on the field, Ponting is a very down to earth person.. I could actually be mates with him lol..... :P
 
He just badly wants the twin hundreds. Rare feat it would be and a very special one. Come on!
 
3 outings.

3 quality efforts.

Overseas test#1 - Passed with distinction
 
Virat Kohli

Very good knock coming in to face hat trick ball.. Looking comfortable against steyn n philander ... Unlucky to be caught down the legside ... Kudos kohli 67 valuable partnership at that stage..
 
Deservedly so.

Kohli
Dhoni
de Villiers

Top 3 ODI batsman today and they are a level above the rest.
 
ABD and Kohli are neck to neck .... in power hitting ABD > Kohli but for big knocks Kohli > ABD

Dhoni can't be compared as his primary job is to finish off / slog in the last 15 overs
 
Snow said:
His Hook shot and Pull shots reminded me of Young Ponting.
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I won't say he is at ponting's level but I like his technique. The way he pivots back and play in front of wicket shows how comfortable he is playing this shot.
 
He hooks and pulls one too many. He needs to curb his instincts a bit more to become a prolific test batsman.
 
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IndianWillow said:
He hooks and pulls one too many. He needs to curb his instincts a bit more to become a prolific test batsman.
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It's that shot of his that sets him apart. It's about showing intent and making a statement as a batsman. A la Ponting.

If he shelved it it would be akin to Ponting shelving it. He would just become another ordinary batsman.
 
IndianWillow said:
He hooks and pulls one too many. He needs to curb his instincts a bit more to become a prolific test batsman.
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It could be a problem in Australia though. Boundaries are really big there, unless he times every ball perfectly he would be caught in the deep. It would be an interesting battle though.
 
Anfield said:
It could be a problem in Australia though. Boundaries are really big there, unless he times every ball perfectly he would be caught in the deep. It would be an interesting battle though.
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I agree, he will get out many times in big grounds. He sees short balls as scoring opportunities and tries to attack/score runs.
 
Anfield said:
It could be a problem in Australia though. Boundaries are really big there, unless he times every ball perfectly he would be caught in the deep. It would be an interesting battle though.
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Well, he is consciously trying to keep those balls down and score 4s, not 6s. Plus he is really good at picking the gaps
 
Test record looking pretty decent as well now. 6 hundreds, 3 of them away. Good going. :14: :kohli
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Test record looking pretty decent as well now. 6 hundreds, 3 of them away. Good going. :14: :kohli
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Yes!

In 4 test series he scores centuries in the last test after the series is lost.

So you think he can't score a useless century in a 2 test series? Hehe you are completely wrong.
Lost the first one, didn't scored in the first crucial innings in the second test and scored that beast of a hundred in the second innings when the series was secured for NZ.
Guess what? He was almost as good as the great Neesham in that innings!
 
Saqs said:
It's that shot of his that sets him apart. It's about showing intent and making a statement as a batsman. A la Ponting.

If he shelved it it would be akin to Ponting shelving it. He would just become another ordinary batsman.
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In ODIs, fully agree.

He would make a number of fifties in tests if he plays too many shots like this, but he may have to forget the daddy hundreds, especially while playing on big grounds.

India need a match winning batsman in Kohli who can make tall scores, not just somebody who looks classy to viewers. He needs to pick and choose those hooks and pulls, he should not think of them as scoring shots all the time. Batsmen who can leave the short balls well usually score more than batsmen who hook impulsively.
 
Mobashir said:
Yes!

In 4 test series he scores centuries in the last test after the series is lost.

So you think he can't score a useless century in a 2 test series? Hehe you are completely wrong.
Lost the first one, didn't scored in the first crucial innings in the second test and scored that beast of a hundred in the second innings when the series was secured for NZ.
Guess what? He was almost as good as the great Neesham in that innings!
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You are one sour poster :))
 
He might end up as the greatest ODI batsman ever. IMO he'll cement his place as an ODI great if he scores big in the 2015WC.

He has scored some dead runs in his test career so far (his test tons against Eng,Aus and NZ came after the series was decided) but also a genuinely great knock in SA last year.

So i'm still kinda on the fence about how far he'll go in tests. He can score runs sure, but he needs to do that when it matters more often.
 
Kohli is an ODI great in Tests he will improve no doubt he needs to score more meaningful runs though in Tests to become a top Test Batsman

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Mamoon said:
He will be ranked alongside Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara one day.
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Lol with this kind of batting he can be remembered alongside Tendulkar but never Ponting or Lara who destroyed bowlers.

He is just an accumulator, isn't he?

PS: before you run away, I am talking about test cricket.
 
Scrolln said:
He might end up as the greatest ODI batsman ever. IMO he'll cement his place as an ODI great if he scores big in the 2015WC.

He has scored some dead runs in his test career so far (his test tons against Eng,Aus and NZ came after the series was decided) but also a genuinely great knock in SA last year.

So i'm still kinda on the fence about how far he'll go in tests. He can score runs sure, but he needs to do that when it matters more often.
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Well I am not the only Kohli hatter as I can see.
 
Mobashir said:
Lol with this kind of batting he can be remembered alongside Tendulkar but never Ponting or Lara who destroyed bowlers.

He is just an accumulator, isn't he?

PS: before you run away, I am talking about test cricket.
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Nope, he dominates the bowling and calling Tendulkar an accumulator shows your blatant lack of knowledge.

Tendulkar was a very aggressive and flamboyant batsman. It's only since his tennis elbow injuries in mid 2000's that he toned down and became an accumulator.
 
Mamoon said:
Nope, he dominates the bowling and calling Tendulkar an accumulator shows your blatant lack of knowledge.

Tendulkar was a very aggressive and flamboyant batsman. It's only since his tennis elbow injuries in mid 2000's that he toned down and became an accumulator.
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So Kohli dominates the bowlers in Test cricket?

please,.can you list the innings where he dominated the bowlers?
Lol you will start with this useless innings against New Zealand, that was the 6th-8th best innings of the match.
 
Mamoon said:
Nope, he dominates the bowling and calling Tendulkar an accumulator shows your blatant lack of knowledge.

Tendulkar was a very aggressive and flamboyant batsman. It's only since his tennis elbow injuries in mid 2000's that he toned down and became an accumulator.
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Yes flamboyant against the Lankans, zimbabweans, english of the 90's that were ultra crap team most of the time.
One or two good flamboyant innings don't make him a flamboyant batsmen.
Compared to Ponting and Lara he was an accumulator, sure not in the Dravid-Kallis way.
 
Mobashir said:
Yes flamboyant against the Lankans, zimbabweans, english of the 90's that were ultra crap team most of the time.
One or two good flamboyant innings don't make him a flamboyant batsmen.
Compared to Ponting and Lara he was an accumulator, sure not in the Dravid-Kallis way.
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Some serious lack of cricketing knowledge here. Here are accumulator's stats stacked up against the flamboyant Lara throughout 90s. Here are Sachin's.

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Lara's stats - ( murdered minnows ) :P

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Test stats would be a total mismatch in Tendu's favor, so keep the ODI ones for now. :sachin
 
Electron said:
Some serious lack of cricketing knowledge here. Here are accumulator's stats stacked up against the flamboyant Lara throughout 90s. Here are Sachin's.

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Lara's stats - ( murdered minnows ) :P

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Test stats would be a total mismatch in Tendu's favor, so keep the ODI ones for now. :sachin
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Have a look at both of their strike rates, LOL. Sachin was a much more attacking and dominating player compared to Lara in the 90's.
 
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Tendulkar has scored test tons in SA, NZ and Aus at an SR of 75 - 80+

Tendulkar could accumulate and dominate equally well.
 
Hitman said:
Have a look at both of their strike rates, LOL. Sachin was a much more attacking and dominating player compared to Lara in the 90's.
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Yes, and even in 2000s, Lara scored at a SR of 79, averaging 38 .. While Sachin scored at a SR of 85, averaging 47 :P
But as you said, people wouldn't stop at anything. :afridi
 
Electron said:
Yes, and even in 2000s, Lara scored at a SR of 79, averaging 38 .. While Sachin scored at a SR of 85, averaging 47 :P
But as you said, people wouldn't stop at anything. :afridi
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Some people have no shame. Or better yet they never saw cricket in the 90's yet comment like they know everything.
 
I am not awnszring these blind Indian fans.

But just for reminder, the discussion is about test cricket and not about one or two years. Lara was a largely more attacking batsman than Tendulkar.

The big batsman that can be said to be very attacking bat are Lara, Ponting, Sehwag, Gilly, KP and maybe Hayden.
 
Mobashir said:
I am not awnszring these blind Indian fans.

But just for reminder, the discussion is about test cricket and not about one or two years. Lara was a largely more attacking batsman than Tendulkar.

The big batsman that can be said to be very attacking bat are Lara, Ponting, Sehwag, Gilly, KP and maybe Hayden.
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LOL.. alright captain. :)
 
Funny the one who's himself blind posting comments out of thin air is accusing other to be blind, this of course after he is humiliated with stats and facts.

Running out of answers = "I'm not replying to blind fans".
 
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Again, hitman, i am talking about test cricket.
But let it go, Tendulkar has an IPL century while Lara has never ever hit even a DLF maximum so Tendulkar is more attacking.

The thread is about Kohli.

Make a Tendulkar vs Lara, who is the most attacking test batsman and I will proove my point.
 
Electron said:
Yes, and even in 2000s, Lara scored at a SR of 79, averaging 38 .. While Sachin scored at a SR of 85, averaging 47 :P
But as you said, people wouldn't stop at anything. :afridi
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I think Mobashir is talking of tests. Lara was more aggressive than Tendulkar in tests. I have seen Tendulkar playing out quiet sessions but this is very rare with Lara.
 
Mobashir said:
Lol with this kind of batting he can be remembered alongside Tendulkar but never Ponting or Lara who destroyed bowlers.

He is just an accumulator, isn't he?

PS: before you run away, I am talking about test cricket.
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Yes, because cricket began after 2000s and everyone has amnesia about Sachin in his prime literally destroying bowlers and carting them around to all parts of the ground.

Sachin was as much an accumulator as Viv Richards. He changed only post elbow injury. But you know this don't you?
 
IndianWillow said:
I think Mobashir is talking of tests. Lara was more aggressive than Tendulkar in tests. I have seen Tendulkar playing out quiet sessions but this is very rare with Lara.
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Only post 2000 and post his injury. In his prime (90s and early 2000s) he was as destructive as Lara
 
Indiafan said:
Only post 2000 and post his injury. In his prime (90s and early 2000s) he was as destructive as Lara
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No, he wasn't.

Sachin S/R before 2000 = 53.82
Sachin S/R after 2000 = 54.17

Sachin was aggressive in some years, his batting strike exceeded 60 in only 2 of his career years. For much of his career, his S/R hovered in the range 50-57.

Brian Lara, on the other hand had S/R exceeding 60 in seven career years. Lara was almost always more destructive than Tendulkar. May be in that small window 1998-00 Tendulkar was better than Lara, but barring those years Lara was always more destructive.
 
Indiafan said:
Only post 2000 and post his injury. In his prime (90s and early 2000s) he was as destructive as Lara
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Nothing wrong in accepting that Lara was a more aggressive batsman in tests compared to Sachin. Stats show that as well. Doesn't diminsh Sachin's greatness
 
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IndianWillow said:
No, he wasn't.

Sachin S/R before 2000 = 53.82
Sachin S/R after 2000 = 54.17

Sachin was aggressive in some years, his batting strike exceeded 60 in only 2 of his career years. For much of his career, his S/R hovered in the range 50-57.

Brian Lara, on the other hand had S/R exceeding 60 in seven career years. Lara was almost always more destructive than Tendulkar. May be in that small window 1998-00 Tendulkar was better than Lara, but barring those years Lara was always more destructive.
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So u judge destructiveness on basis of SR?Guess Afridi is the most destructive batsman of all times.
 
I'm a fan of both Sachin, Lara and Ponting. And by the way, Sachin and Lara are the best of friends. Let's leave it that that. I loved watching Ponting bat, what a player he was, superb!
 
Lara was more attacking than Tendulkar in tests.

Tendulkar would grind out bowlers from time to time depending upon match situations, pitch conditions, personal form etc.

Lara played attacking cricket no matter what, which explains why he hasn't been as successful as Tendulkar in alien conditions and has a rep of being somewhat of a home bully in tests.
 
25 int' tons now for Kohli. Still young, should at least beat Ponting at 2nd place if not Tendulkar's 100 100s. :sachin
 
Will he be the fastest to 20 ODI hundreds if he scored his next ODI 100 in coming 5 matches ?
 
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Tbf I'm a big fan of Virat but it is really random for him to move up to number 1 after having a decent Asia Cup but nothing special


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Mobashir said:
Out of 11 matches, just one.
Pretty poor record against Pakistan compared to other players invalided in those matches.
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Apart from India and Pakistan there are other teams in the world also. Right?? Why do some guys only compare indian and pakistani players to each other but not to other teams players? :kohli :umarakmal
 
Cricfan4eva said:
First Sachin and now Kohli.

They've given you a lot of miserable days to deal with :)))
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Apart from India and Pakistan there are other teams in the world also. Right?? Why do some guys only compare indian and pakistani players to each other but not to other teams players? :kohli :umarakmal
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Just awnered the post. You should ask Cricfan why he think Kohli has given me a lot of miserable day.
 
Romali_rotti said:
True, they are nothing like how they are on the field, Ponting is a very down to earth person.. I could actually be mates with him lol..... :P
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actually, not all of them. met McGrath and Reifel at the Le Meradian in New Delhi in 1996 during the Titan cup. McGrath was an absolute gentleman, asked me if i played cricket, and when i responded yes, i aspire to be a fast bowler like him, he remarked, you are better of imitating Denis Lillee. an absolute gentleman, shook hands with random strangers, always a smile.

Reifel, not so much. total tool.

Met Zaheer Abbas in 1998. Sedated and aloof. but not a tool. Met Moin Khan at the same time, total tool. Met Afridi at that time, total gentleman!

My brother met Wasim Akram recently in New Delhi and said he was an absolute gentleman.

I think like all humans, these guys are a mixed bag. also depends whether you catch them on a good day or a bad one...
 
He is the best player in the World. I can just tell from last few months, he has scored everywhere and its not just the runs its the way he scored. Amazing!
This boy is 25 years old and best in the world.
 
70s-80s - Gavaskar
90s-00s - Tendulkar
10s-20s - Kohli Insha'allah :22:
 
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expected better from him today especially at the end.. was a good innings nonetheless..
 
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