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The England women star’s brother Max posted a photo on his Twitter account. The Indian batting sensation can be seen standing next to Danielle. Max Wyatt posted two photos of Kohli and Danielle together.
The first photo was accompanied with the caption saying: ‘These would make a cute couple haha #kohli’. The second photo had the following text: ‘ Here’s [MENTION=60931]Dann[/MENTION]i_Wyatt with @imVkohli‘.

There is prior history to Danielle’s feelings towards Kohli. In April, 2014, she tweeted saying: ‘Kohli marry me!!!’. This was after Kohli led India to the ICC World T20 2014 final. Some replied to her tweet, “He is booked to bollywood actress [MENTION=6584]anu[/MENTION]shkaSharma” to which the England women cricketer replied, “Nah he ain’t”!

Danielle’s teammate Katherine Brunt also replied saying: ‘Too late Don, he asked me last week!’.


LOL crazy people :)))
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Just googled and got this info -


The England women star’s brother Max posted a photo on his Twitter account. The Indian batting sensation can be seen standing next to Danielle. Max Wyatt posted two photos of Kohli and Danielle together.
The first photo was accompanied with the caption saying: ‘These would make a cute couple haha #kohli’. The second photo had the following text: ‘ Here’s [MENTION=60931]Dann[/MENTION]i_Wyatt with @imVkohli‘.

There is prior history to Danielle’s feelings towards Kohli. In April, 2014, she tweeted saying: ‘Kohli marry me!!!’. This was after Kohli led India to the ICC World T20 2014 final. Some replied to her tweet, “He is booked to bollywood actress [MENTION=6584]anu[/MENTION]shkaSharma” to which the England women cricketer replied, “Nah he ain’t”!

Danielle’s teammate Katherine Brunt also replied saying: ‘Too late Don, he asked me last week!’.


LOL crazy people :)))
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Imagine if someone tried that with Afridi ? lol
 
Kohli compared to other greats at 43 Test innings and 134 ODI innings

Virat Kohli has now played 43 test innings and 134 ODI innings. Below is a comparison between Kohli at this stage of his career, and other great batsmen after having also played 43 tests innings and 134 ODI innings. When minnows are played, stats excluding minnows will be mentioned in brackets.

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Viv Richards after 43 test innings: 2426 runs at an average of 59.17

Brian Lara after 43 test innings: 2384 runs at an average of 57.9

Sir Garfield Sobers after 43 test innings: 2067 runs at an average of 57.4

Sachin Tendulkar after 43 test innings: 1969 runs at an average of 50.4

Shivnarine Chanderpaul after 43 test innings: 1708 runs at an average of 46.1

Virat Kohli after 43 test innings: 1730 runs at an average of 44.3 (averages 43.8 excluding minnows, 50 at home, 38 away)

Ricky Ponting after 43 test innings: 1630 runs at an average of 41.7

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Viv Richards after 134 ODIS: 5455 runs at an average of 54

Virat Kohli after 134 ODIS: 5634 runs at an average of 49 (excluding minnows, 2032 runs, with an average of 47 away, 53 at home, 45 outside SC)

Brian Lara after 134 ODIs: 5535 runs at an average of 46.5 (averages 42.79 away, 57.7 at home. No minnows played)

Sachin Tendulkar after 134 ODIS: 4830 runs at an average of 39.17 (averages 39 excluding minnows, with an average of 35.1 away, 45 home)

Ricky Ponting after 134 ODIS: 4134 runs at an average of 38.16
 
VIV is one of the best batsmen ever to have played cricket.. he is not comparable to anyone

To be honest Kohli;s ODI record is something to brag about..
 
"So what's the point? Any cricketer and if he is good he might play 43 test innings."

The thread title makes clear what the point of this thread is. And what does your second sentence mean?

" VIV is one of the best batsmen ever to have played cricket.. he is not comparable to anyone"

Agreed, but some compare. Graeme Pollock averages 61 after 41 test innings, for example. Unfortunately, he never played any more games.
 
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"He is a flop in Tests"

These are Kohli's last 12 test scores:

57, 119, 96, 46, 11, 4, 67, 38, 105*, 1, 8, 25

Those are very good scores, and suggest, like Ponting (who averaged less than Kohli at 43 test innnings), a player who will get better. He averages 44 and 68 against the number 1 and number 2 ranked Test teams.
 
EliteCynic said:
So what's the point? Any cricketer and if he is good he might play 43 test innings.
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Its showing how Kohli has fared compared to those greats.

Not too well in tests but excellently in ODIs. What everyone already knows, tbh.
 
Bilal7 said:
Its showing how Kohli has fared compared to those greats.

Not too well in tests but excellently in ODIs. What everyone already knows, tbh.
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Kohli is no where near all those guys in tests. It would have been like comparing Lara after 43 tests with Viv or Sobers. Hindsight is always 20/20 but not sure after what point can you start these comparison threads? Nobody is hailing Kohli as the next sachin or lara in tests. These comparison threads are waste of bits and bytes, IMO
 
EliteCynic said:
Kohli is no where near all those guys in tests. It would have been like comparing Lara after 43 tests with Viv or Sobers. Hindsight is always 20/20 but not sure after what point can you start these comparison threads? Nobody is hailing Kohli as the next sachin or lara in tests. These comparison threads are waste of bits and bytes, IMO
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Most Indians and even some foreigners were calling Kohli the next Sachin so its not a bad thing to see how well he's lived up to those expectations up until now.
 
Bilal7 said:
Most Indians and even some foreigners were calling Kohli the next Sachin so its not a bad thing to see how well he's lived up to those expectations up until now.
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I reckon that was in ODI's my friend? He has to slay a dragon in tests, but his 100's in Jo Burg and Adelaide were a good start. Too early to compare with Sachin
 
Bilal7 said:
Most Indians and even some foreigners were calling Kohli the next Sachin so its not a bad thing to see how well he's lived up to those expectations up until now.
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Few players take time to succeed and I feel Kohli needs some time to become consistent in tests. Ricky Ponting, had very ordinary start to his test career before becoming the great that he is right now.
 
EliteCynic said:
I reckon that was in ODI's my friend? He has to slay a dragon in tests, but his 100's in Jo Burg and Adelaide were a good start. Too early to compare with Sachin
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Nah, there were people hailing him as the next Sachin, period. All formats.

Not that I agree with that at all but that is probably the reasoning behind OP opening this thread.
 
giri26 said:
Few players take time to succeed and I feel Kohli needs some time to become consistent in tests. Ricky Ponting, had very ordinary start to his test career before becoming the great that he is right now.
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Yeah, plus he hasn't done badly at all. Average near the 45 mark is very good for someone his age. Likes of Amla and ABD were nowhere as good at his age.
 
lilFlip said:
:kohli is a great talent and at this rate he will score 10k+ in both formats easily
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If he ends up with 5k test runs but with say 8-9 test wins abroad, I would be more happy. for me, the team is over and above any individual record.
 
his ODI record is just top class in tests he has long way to go i got a feeling he can be like ponting in tests will catch up but after 43 tests he is just decent
 
Batman_DB said:
his ODI record is just top class in tests he has long way to go i got a feeling he can be like ponting in tests will catch up but after 43 tests he is just decent
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"Kohli compared to other greats" assumes Kohli is a great - which he aint yet.
 
I mean if anything it shows that Kohli is as good as the stats tell.

I think he is better to watch than Sachin. I liked Sachin's humbleness though
 
Kohli is definitely not the second Sachin. Has to be a class above. Ppl will say I'm crazy but the way this guy is going scoring 20,000 alone in ODIs should be the least. Tests he may be less but he should catch up.
 
Random Aussie said:
Yep, you're crazy
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+1

20K runs alone is not enough. SRT is not rated due to his runs/tons. He was rated as top few in history half way in his career and he didn't have his runs/tons back then. Kohli or Cook can score more runs/tons but that alone hardly makes them better batsmen.
 
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One thing i will hold against Kohli is he hasnt stood up with the bat on a seaming track. But then again hardly any modern batsman will do that. But if he wants to held in the same regard as the former greats, he has to do something outside his comfort zone.
 
Inzi is not crap but he's just a Pakistani great. If Kohli mirrors his Test career, he will be an Indian great but he has the potential to be an ATG which is why it would be a shame.

Comprehension fail.
 
I think some technical issue has crept up in Kohli's technique. In ODIs such things won't get exposed.

There was a video about it on cricinfo (can't find it now).
 
Don't think it's the attitude. Batting in Tests and T20s don't come naturally to him and he will find his feet in Tests (he already has to an extent) just like he did in T20s after a slow start to his career.

Needs a big Test knock, a double hundred that will get him going.
 
Mamoon said:
Don't think it's the attitude. Batting in Tests and T20s don't come naturally to him and he will find his feet in Tests (he already has to an extent) just like he did in T20s after a slow start to his career.

Needs a big Test knock, a double hundred that will get him going.
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Maybe it's just his approach? Have a look at KP, he played in the same fashion, if he clicked he'd go onto score a fantastic hundred but he was never consistent enough to average more than 50. Playing aggressively does usually come at the cost of offering more chances to the opposition.
 
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Virat Kohli v/s Tendulkar - At the same age in Tests

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For Indian batsmen only , because Virat Kohli falls on the 2nd page when done for all the batsmen in the World.

Age Limit - 26 ( Kohli's current age )
 
Wow look at Sehwag's stats at 25, and he was actually an awesome overseas player too till 2007-08.

Tendulkar was voted as the second greatest to Bradman in tests and second greatest to Richards in ODI's when he was 28 so no point comparing both at the same age.

Tendulkar was lightyears ahead.
 
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sachin played 76 tests at the age of 26 thats staggering cook played 72 despite of debuting at the age of 21 compared to sachin's 17
 
Tendulkar Kohli is no comparison in Tests. Tendulkar was a freaking Legend of the format at the same age while Virat is being outplayed by his team-mates and so many other batsmen around the World.
 
I wonder what Kohli will have to do to go past SRT in tests. Looks like he doesnt even have enough time on his hands , a career of 10-12 years at max from hereon.
 
Calling Inzamam a Pakistani great is not insulting. It's an honour.
 
Mamoon said:
Needs a big Test knock, a double hundred that will get him going.
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Let him score one in FC cricket where even Jadeja scores 300s. Rahane, pujara, rohit all have big juicy fc scores, only Kohli doesn't which is surprising.
 
hafeezrocks said:
I wonder what Kohli will have to do to go past SRT in tests. Looks like he doesnt even have enough time on his hands , a career of 10-12 years at max from hereon.
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He doesn't need to. His primary role is to score runs in all conditions. Rest will be taken care of.
 
Virat Kohli is in that category of batsmen now who when they come in to bat, fans expect them to score a lot of runs. So the comparisons to ATGs is justified. Whether he will get there in the end will only be revealed in the future.
 
Kohli's good but usually performs in tests when the game is dead, the series is dead or this conditions are brilliant for batting.
 
A complete failure of a tour comes to an end for Virat. He seriously needs to spend a lot of time in the nets and come back strong against the Windies. I don't see him succeeding against the Aussies but he can't go any lower than this.
 
Also some stats on Virat a test player

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He has been pretty bad against England and West Indies till now. Had a horrid England tour this year which only prolonged his misery.

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At the same time, he has done against seemingly more difficult conditions.
Indian greats generally do well in England and fail in SA or NZ.
Australia is tough but good Indian batsmen generally do ok there so Virat seems ok in this regard.

Lets see how he performs in future.

Next Aussie tour is make or break I think for him.
 
^SA pitches were pretty flat, ask the SA posters here.

Didn't watch the NZ tests. [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] How were the pitches when you guys played India?
 
Fastandfurious said:
^SA pitches were pretty flat, ask the SA posters here.

Didn't watch the NZ tests. [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] How were the pitches when you guys played India?
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SA pitches were not all flat. I dont have to ask anyone, I saw all matches live. Second test was flattish but first test was ok. Second test first inning was flat but second inning Steyn was swinging like crazy (rained overnight or something).

However first test in first inning it was pretty threatening. Heck we folded SA under 250 in first inning even with out bowling attack.


http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2013-14/engine/match/648665.html

This was his best test inning till date for me, too bad out bowling couldn't close the game and we narrowly escaped to a draw later.
 
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Noobosauras said:
SA pitches were not all flat. I dont have to ask anyone, I saw all matches live. Second test was flattish but first test was ok. Especially in first inning it was pretty threatening. Heck we folded SA under 250 in first inning even with out bowling attack.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2013-14/engine/match/648665.html

This was his best test inning till date for me, too bad out bowling couldn't close the game and we narrowly escaped to a draw later.
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I watched the matches, they were flat compared to the usual.

He batted well but not exactly in the 'tough conditions' you're claiming.
 
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Fastandfurious said:
I watched the matches, they were flat compared to the usual.

He batted well but not exactly in the 'tough conditions' you're claiming.
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depands on what is "usual" for you. I saw SA vs Lanka tests before, similar pitches.
Even SA vs Australia later had similar pitches.

No green mamba, similar pitches with early help but pitch eases out later.
 
Anyway I am just happy we are discussing real cricket on this tread again. Too much off topic discussion here otherwise.
 
Noobosauras said:
depands on what is "usual" for you. I saw SA vs Lanka tests before, similar pitches.
Even SA vs Australia later had similar pitches.

No green mamba, similar pitches with early help but pitch eases out later.
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Tough conditions would be the 1st pitch in SA-Aus series, green(not a lot but there was enough), bouncy and pacy. Second match was sluggish and obviously Aus struggled, third was a road where game could've went either way but Aus grabbed the momentum and usually do well on roads.

The ones India played on were similar to the third one.
 
Fastandfurious said:
^SA pitches were pretty flat, ask the SA posters here.

Didn't watch the NZ tests. [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] How were the pitches when you guys played India?
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That Johannesburg pitch where he scored a hundred was full of grass. India lost the toss..batted first and Virat played a gem of an innings to score a century.
 
Fastandfurious said:
Tough conditions would be the 1st pitch in SA-Aus series, green(not a lot but there was enough), bouncy and pacy. Second match was sluggish and obviously Aus struggled, third was a road where game could've went either way but Aus grabbed the momentum and usually do well on roads.

The ones India played on were similar to the third one.
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That was one inning in various series around. No such pitch against Pakistan too when they toured last time.
How are such pitches "usual" now? Most matches I have seen in SA ever since Phil Hughes magnificient debut in and against SA are similar pitches, with little green, and they ease out eventually.

Pitches you are talking about were usual in 1990s to mid 2000.

Since then usual pitches have been different. Infact the most subcontinental like pitch was durban against Sri Lanka. Even against India it was "meh". Heck Ajmal almost won you a test on similar pitches.
 
Fastandfurious said:
You're right but it didn't have the pace and bounce.
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Ofcourse it has pace and bounce .Do you think Indian bowlers had that fire power that they could restrict a strong SA batting lineup with in 240 in a flat pitch? Though the pitch flatten out considerably towards day 4 and 5. It was a top class knock by Kohli
 
Fastandfurious said:
rofl
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How can a pitch which has grass will not have pace? :uakmal

Do you even understand cricket or just the name 'Virat Kohli' is enough for you to say so? Grass reduces frictional force of the ground and ball skids on to the bat at faster pace. 9th Standard physics bro.
 
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