Gavaskar didn't average 9 runs more than Viv so no..
Kohli averages 19 points more than Smith.
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Gavaskar didn't average 9 runs more than Viv so no..
Gavaskar didn't average 9 runs more than Viv so no..
Gavaskar didn't average 9 runs more than Viv so no..
I recon in current Aus roads, gun batsmen can score substantially higher than other places if they have learned cricket there and play a lot on same roads. Smith home avg is 75. Not taking anything away from him, but comparing his average to Viv or Gavaskar is misleading.
Smith is a great batsman, but I won't read too much onto his career average when making a comparison.
Smith doesn't average 31 runs more than Kohli so lol..
Kohli averages 19 points more than Smith.
Please elaborate. Or is this all format combined SC nonsense?
smith's 1st innings avg is 92.00 with 16 centuries, in tests. Once he gets in, he just goes on and on. Next year vs India should be the real decider if all Indian bowlers are fit and in form. As for Kohli, Eng, WI are substandard for his stature just 35 or so. And he has to score more runs vs Australia to try and make a claim vs smith whose avg vs India is 84
Smith is a bit like Dhoni when it comes to surviving. He has a way not to lose his wicket and pile up runs. His hand eye coordination is helping him now. But if he even slightly loses it he will go Sehwag's way. Both Kohli and Smith try to play everything through on side. But Kohli just move his top part of the body which often lands him in trouble when he misses the line. Smith shifts his entire body outside the line of the off stump in a clumsy but effective way. This way he doesn't get leg before. Kohli's game has certain amount of risk involved even though he plays everything on the ground. Smith has a fool proof technique at this point to survive. Survival part is where Kohli is behind. When both are at their peak, Kohli will be in a different zone.
Yeah none of technical players rely on hand-eye. Tendulkar could play with his eyes closed.
That’s the reason why he was successful in his last two years averaging 20..
Agree with the hand-eye coordination part of Smith. And whatever his technique is, it made him world's best right now. One thing I have noticed is bowlers get irritated by his stance and try to make him LBW and he is so strong on anything on his legs that he piles up runs at will. And most bowlers don't have bounce or pace like Morkel or Bumra. I would not say body line but concentrating on the bouncer in the shoulder/neck area will be interesting to test him. That will irritate him on the other hand. Anyway, all said and done, most bowlers get easily distracted with smith's scoring that they lose their line and length.
Doesn't matter. His away average is also higher than Kohli's.
he dint? he faced a pre prime ishant who is not current ishant.Smith tore this lethal Indian attack to shreds last time he was here expected to completely fail.
Smith tore this lethal Indian attack to shreds last time he was here expected to completely fail.
At least we know why his bowlers did well, the last time he played India.
Every team does it. Tendulkar did it too but he didn’t have a gall to admit it after getting caught on camera.
Possibly, but the sandpaper gate will always remain an asterisk on his profile as a cricketer.
Please elaborate. Or is this all format combined SC nonsense?
Every team does it. Tendulkar did it too but he didn’t have a gall to admit it after getting caught on camera.
Everyone who knows about cricket would know that every team does it. He wasn’t the first and he won’t be the last.
Not combined, just ODIs. You didn't specify a format.
Whenever you want to ridicule South Asian fans and their love for LOIs, take a look at how many attended Aus vs Pak at the Gabba.
Every team does it with fingernails and candy. Not bottle caps or sandpaper.
Everyone who knows about cricket would know that every team does it. He wasn’t the first and he won’t be the last.
There is no proof that teams still do it. But even if they do, no one is doing it so blatantly as the trio did.
The Aussie bowlers performance against the Indians last winter did speak volumes of their ability without a sandpapered ball.
No one cares about odi/ t20 outside of SC when rating a player.
And it’s irrelevant which method you use. The act itself is illegal so either you do it or you don’t do it.
It’s like saying you stab someone but didn’t kill them so you are innocent. Doesn’t work that way.
No one cares about odi/ t20 outside of SC when rating a player.
And it’s irrelevant which method you use. The act itself is illegal so either you do it or you don’t do it.
It’s like saying you stab someone but didn’t kill them so you are innocent. Doesn’t work that way.
More people are getting caught due to improved camera. Far also got caught in previous series.
Once again Sachin was caught but he had the support of his cheerleader fans who would happily rally in protest so that charge would be removed. Not everyone else has that luxury.
And who cares what people outside the SC think? 200 million Pakistanis, 1.3 billion Indians, and 160 million Bangladeshis are the only ones keeping the sport alive.
Just because others might be doing a crime, it doesn't make the crime any lesser.
Again, the difference was evident between the Australian bowling with sandpaper and without sandpaper.
he dint? he faced a pre prime ishant who is not current ishant.
he never faced the best bowler in the world aka bumrah
he never faced injury free shami 2.0.
the shami he faced struggled with injury woes and isn't anywhere close to the current shami we see.
Anyway we will get our answers soon and I have no doubt someone will take his head clean off this time.
Smith responds to challenges incredibly
First he was told he could never become a reliable test batsmen
Then people said he would fail in India
Then people said he couldn't but in England he dispelled this against a very good bowling attack
He has series in England and India that are as good as any overseas batsmen ever
If he says Australia is not going to lose we won't lose. We have complete faith in his ability to save us time in, time out, like he did in the Ashes
Smith responds to challenges incredibly
First he was told he could never become a reliable test batsmen
Then people said he would fail in India
Then people said he couldn't but in England he dispelled this against a very good bowling attack
He has series in England and India that are as good as any overseas batsmen ever
If he says Australia is not going to lose we won't lose. We have complete faith in his ability to save us time in, time out, like he did in the Ashes
Then why did Australia lose in Bangladesh? Why didn't he step up there?
International cricket is played across three formats.
The best bowler or batsman of the era has to excellent across the three formats.
Smith is undoubtedly the best test batsman, while Virat is second.
But in T20s and ODIs Virat is the best while Smith will struggle to make it in top 10. Many will rate a young Babbar over Smith in LoIs.
So while Smith is the best test batsman, Virat is the best Batsman of the era.
Doesn't matter. His away average is also higher than Kohli's.
No matter which way you slice it, Smith is day light ahead in tests.
No matter which way you slice it? What if I look at higher scores and more double 100s(even as a ratio of innings played)?
He scores lot of double hundreds but then it would also mean he goes missing more often in other innings. It implies lack of consistency.
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Smith is one level above kohli in tests.
You are free to put forward logical arguments against the statement.
Smith is one level above kohli in tests.
You are free to put forward logical arguments against the statement.
And as per [MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION], Kohli doesn't score his runs enough quickly.
I have followed Kohli all his career and when mattered, he has batted exactly as the game required. Today and first T20 are just another examples. 70 off 29 balls today and 94 off 50 that day in a Chase.
He scores lot of double hundreds but then it would also mean he goes missing more often in other innings. It implies lack of consistency.
it's easier for smith to perform vs SENA countries and vice versa for kohli vs Asian countries. Unfortunately for kohli, apart from india being a powerhouse, the rest of the Asian countries are either mediocre or still in a developing phase.
But overall smith is better as you said because he performed vs india in India. Kohli performed well in australia but failed in india last time. Let's see if he can correct his mistakes next time australia tour india.
how many runs kohli has scored in tests??? any maaja saaja can score in pyjama cricket with wet ball against bangaldesh....
India failing in India is more an aberration than some kind of deficiency. He is not run hungry like Smith on that count. But he does have to fix his 4th innings in Tests. SOmeone like Laxman who averages 100 in 4th innings while winning the match.
Even though I do agree with the premise of the argument, the average in wins is not a good measure for it.
One could effectively fail in most matches, but score a couple of 4th innings chases to get that average. I would want to look at overall 4th innings average, not just in wins. Last year, Kohli had 4 chances to make it - 2 in SA and 2 in England (1st and 4th test). He did come close in the 1st test in England. Had he hung around for another 20 odd runs, we would have won.
Kohli jumped into 10th rank in ICC T20I Rankings.
Now he is back to top 10 in all formats batting rankings..
No. 1 in Test Cricket
No. 1 in ODI Cricket
No.10 in t20i
Is he now gunning for supremacy across all 3 formats?
Has ever a batsman or bowler managed #1 ranking in all 3 formats at once?
Kohli batted at a higher strike rate than the much vaunted Windies power hitters in the 2016 wc, only if Rahane batted at 150 we would have won that game.And as per [MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION], Kohli doesn't score his runs enough quickly.
I have followed Kohli all his career and when mattered, he has batted exactly as the game required. Today and first T20 are just another examples. 70 off 29 balls today and 94 off 50 that day in a Chase.
Kohli jumped into 10th rank in ICC T20I Rankings.
Now he is back to top 10 in all formats batting rankings..
No. 1 in Test Cricket
No. 1 in ODI Cricket
No.10 in t20i
Cricketers who held the No. 1 rank in Tests and ODIs at the same time
Keith Stackpole 1972
Vivian Richards 1982-83, 1985-89
Javed Miandad 1989
Brian Lara 1994-96
Sachin Tendulkar 1998-99, 2001-02
Ricky Ponting 2006-07
Hashim Amla 2013
AB de Villiers 2013-2015
Virat Kohli 2018
Lol Kohli at 10 while being clearly superior than the top 9 bats. He will be no 1 in all formats by the time we hit t20 wc.
Tendulkar is the greatest because he was the best in 90s as a young player and in late 2000s he reached the top of the ladder in both formats once again as a veteran in his late 30s. That's at the level of Rod Laver, Federer, Muhammad Ali, Bradman.
How does he show lack of consistency when he has one of the highest 100s to innings ratio as well as one of the highest conversion ratio in the history of cricket?
Smith's higher..