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With his 254* today, Virat Kohli has become the fastest player to 21000 international runs

He reached the mark in 38 fewer innings than the previous record-holder, Sachin Tendulkar!
 
Since 2016, Kohli has hit 7 test double hundreds

England, New Zealand and Pakistan as a team have 3 each in the same time.

Only 2 for Australia
 
MenInG said:
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With his 254* today, Virat Kohli has become the fastest player to 21000 international runs

He reached the mark in 38 fewer innings than the previous record-holder, Sachin Tendulkar!
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Tendulkar > Kohli
 
I caught the final few overs hoping to see him get to 300 but IND declared. He was running effortlessly after scoring 250 and was on equally enrgetic when it was his turn to field.

What a player !!!!

I would earnestly like to see him play in Pakistan, some day
 
He is a truly great player in all formats of the game and across all conditions.

Will go down as one of the greatest batters of all-time.
 
India captain Virat Kohli believes every game they play in the ICC Test Championship will be crucial, and has stated that there will be no let up from the team.

Fresh from securing a series victory over South Africa with a game to spare, Virat Kohli is not planning to ease off in the third Test. He told Star Sports after the match: "It's been nice, but looking at the larger picture, the Test Championship, every game has even more value. We're not going to take the foot off the gas in the third Test, we're looking for a result again, and hopefully make it 3-0. Because these points are important, we understand that, with the Test Championship it's going to be very crucial, at all the stages, when we play away from home as well. And no one's going to relax at any stage, that's a guarantee."

Kohli played a big role in the innings defeat of South Africa in Pune. The partnership between Ajinkya Rahane and him was vital, particularly in seeing off the threat posed by Vernon Philander and Kagiso Rabada on the second morning. "You have to look forward to those sort of sessions. You have to look forward to playing against the new ball in the morning," he said.

The skipper was also glowing in his praise of Rahane's batting, saying how much he enjoys batting with the Indian No.5: "We really enjoy coming up against world-class bowlers, and really contributing for the team in those situations, where it's tough. We take a lot of pride in that. I think having him at the other end really keeps me focused as well, because he keeps giving me regular feedback if I'm doing something wrong. And vice versa for him as well."

His team are now ranked No.1 in the MRF Tyres ICC Men's Test Team Rankings, but it has not been an easy journey to the top. When Kohli took over as captain India were slumbering in seventh. He credits a change of attitude for the turnaround.

"The good thing is when we started out as a group, we were at No.7, and the only way was up. We laid down a few things saying that if you want to take Indian cricket forward, these are the things expected of each one of us; work hard every day at practice, don't come here and waste your time, contribute even at practice sessions, have a purposeful practice session and slowly those things will come into results. We are all lucky to have the group of players that we have, to be honest."

Kohli also credits a change of attitude for the progress in his own game as well. He has now scored seven double hundreds in his last 40 Tests, having scored none before that, the latest of which (254*) is the biggest of them all.

"Everyone goes through a natural process of wanting to prove a point - to yourself, initially in your career - and then maybe you are not that mature to handle the things that happen on the outside. So sometimes you're playing and you're trying to prove people wrong, and those kinds of things come out. I think I am at a stage in my career where I'm just happy to be playing the way I am and contributing for my team. I think it's been a natural progress for me to have a more calm mindset over the years, because you feel more secure as a player, about where you stand in your own environment, and your own game as well."
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Link: https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1451870.
 
On This Day - November 5, 1989: Virat Kohli was born

Virat Kohli turns 31 today. The poster boy of Indian cricket continues to entertain, break records at will and set examples for others.


Wishing you a very happy birthday Virat Kohli!
 
 
Virat Kohli's birthday Test averages:

23rd - 27.28
24th - 41.35
25th - 41.96
26th - 39.46
27th - 45.06
28th - 45.56
29th - 49.55
30th - 54.57
31st - 54.77
 
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Kohli as captain:

- Most consecutive Test series wins
- Most double 100s
- First to 10 int'l hundreds
- Fastest to 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 & 4,000 ODI runs
- Fastest to 9,000 int'l runs
- First Asian to win a Test in SA, ENG & AUS
- Most centuries for India
- Most runs in Tests
 
Virat Kohli's ODI averages at each birthday:

20th - 31.80
21st - 37.00
22nd - 44.46
23rd - 45.91
24th - 51.81
25th - 51.77
26th - 51.31
27th - 50.60
28th - 52.93
29th - 55.74
30th - 59.83
31st - 60.31
 
King_Kohli said:
Virat Kohli's birthday Test averages:

23rd - 27.28
24th - 41.35
25th - 41.96
26th - 39.46
27th - 45.06
28th - 45.56
29th - 49.55
30th - 54.57
31st - 54.77
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So he didnt actually average 50 until he 30th birthday proof that batsmen mature around 28-30.
 
[VIDEO] "Disgusted by who I saw in the mirror": Virat Kohli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOAOafJcB3U

Not sure if its already been posted but just thought it was an interesting video and I think its something for our players to learn from.

It's not because of Kohli's crazy diet but the impressive part is the self-realization and self-motivation to push yourself for the better. Pakistani coaches and selectors can preach fitness all day long but in the end, it comes from the player itself wanting to be great and the best version of themselves.

I feel like Babar has that type of drive and hopefully we get more players with that type of drive as well.
 
virat is far superior to smith. He is an all format player. If virat focused purely on test cricket then his average would be just as high if not higher.
He is a national pride so ofcourse people always expect him to play. Being so marketable he is required to play well in all formats hence a guy like smith can get ahead in test format. Credit to virat for being odi no 1, test number 2 and t20 number 1 batsman.
 
I hate Kohli for that WC semifinal loss.Atleast he should have scored 30-40 runs.
 
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I hate Kohli for that WC semifinal loss.Atleast he should have scored 30-40 runs.
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I know man. I couldn't sleep for a few nights. Oh well s*it happens. Let's see if he does it in the next world cup.

I predict an india pakistam semis in the next world cup. south africa will face the winner.

south africa is going to bounce back strong.
 
You have to be mentally challenged to actually believe there is any competition between Kohli and Smith when it comes to tests.

Even on ICF, posters happening acknowledge Smith’s pre-eminence..
 
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Chrish said:
You have to be mentally challenged to actually believe there is any competition between Kohli and Smith when it comes to tests.

Even on ICF, posters happening acknowledge Smith’s pre-eminence..
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If Smith can finish career with 60+ average, he would be the greatest test batsman of all time imo.
 
Chrish said:
You have to be mentally challenged to actually believe there is any competition between Kohli and Smith when it comes to tests.

Even on ICF, posters happening acknowledge Smith’s pre-eminence..
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Yes, Smith is better in Tests. But you're speaking as if Kohli averages in the 40's in Tests. He averages almost 55 with 26 centuries and 7 double centuries in 82 Tests.
 
Hitman said:
Yes, Smith is better in Tests. But you're speaking as if Kohli averages in the 40's in Tests. He averages almost 55 with 26 centuries and 7 double centuries in 82 Tests.
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He is a level below Smith.. This is a testament to how miraculous Smith has been rather than Kohli being a poor batsman.

He has pushed the boundary of what is humanly possible to achieve as a test batsman.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
If Smith can finish career with 60+ average, he would be the greatest test batsman of all time imo.
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If he retires with average of 65 after playing 120+ tests, I would put him in the same tier as Bradman.
 
Chrish said:
He is a level below Smith.. This is a testament to how miraculous Smith has been rather than Kohli being a poor batsman.

He has pushed the boundary of what is humanly possible to achieve as a test batsman.
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Level below smith? Next you will say Lara Viv Tendulkar are below Smith.

No he has not. He is one format batsman. While The greatest are all format greats
 
cricketjoshila said:
Level below smith? Next you will say Lara Viv Tendulkar are below Smith.

No he has not. He is one format batsman. While The greatest are all format greats
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He certainly is level below Smith in test format. And if Smith keeps going this way then yes, he will end up a level above the guys you mentioned.

I don’t care about “all formats”.
 
Chrish said:
You have to be mentally challenged to actually believe there is any competition between Kohli and Smith when it comes to tests.

Even on ICF, posters happening acknowledge Smith’s pre-eminence..
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I don't care about other formats either but I am being logical. If virat focused on tests as much as smith he would be better than him. Virat is either number 1 or 2 in all formats.
smith is a test great. not an odi or t20 great. yea I don't give a Damn about t20 but clearly modern era players do. Especially marketable ones like kohli who are required to play all formats for sponsorships and endorsements.
Smith doesn't.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Level below smith? Next you will say Lara Viv Tendulkar are below Smith.

No he has not. He is one format batsman. While The greatest are all format greats
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Interesting. So what shall we say about the guy in your DP who refused to play T20Is altogether, despite having the opportunity for 6+ years? Pretty sure Rohit Sharma has a pretty good case for being a better player than Tendulkar then. He has better stats in ODIs, annihilates him in T20s and averages 100 at home in Tests (close to 50 overall).

Anyway, Steve Smith is EASILY the best batsman in the world. I'm amazed that there is still debate around this after the WC Knockouts. Smith is a beast in ODI knockouts and one of the greatest of all time in Tests, and as evidenced by the recent matches, he can easily adapt to T20s and averages near 50 in the Top order in T20Is as well.

Kohli in his dreams wished he could be as clutch a player as Smith is.
 
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Proactive_ said:
Interesting. So what shall we say about the guy in your DP who refused to play T20Is altogether, despite having the opportunity for 6+ years? Pretty sure Rohit Sharma has a pretty good case for being a better player than Tendulkar then. He has better stats in ODIs, annihilates him in T20s and averages 100 at home in Tests (close to 50 overall).

Anyway, Steve Smith is EASILY the best batsman in the world. I'm amazed that there is still debate around this after the WC Knockouts. Smith is a beast in ODI knockouts and one of the greatest of all time in Tests, and as evidenced by the recent matches, he can easily adapt to T20s and averages near 50 in the Top order in T20Is as well.

Kohli in his dreams wished he could be as clutch a player as Smith is.
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Thats not the only way you judge a player,laxman was more clutch than rahul,tendulkar combined but he wasnt anywhere near them in terms of batting prowess.

Smith is a nobody in t20i,kohli has won two man of the tourney in t20 world cups,so there is clearly no competition.
As far as odis are concerned Smith is not even in the same galaxy as Kohli, and no you cant become a great just by performing in odi knockouts.
Being clutch is not the only thing that matters.

Smith is obviously a ountrymile ahead of kohli in tests ,no comparison.
 
Chrish said:
He certainly is level below Smith in test format. And if Smith keeps going this way then yes, he will end up a level above the guys you mentioned.

I don’t care about “all formats”.
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is VIV richards a level below smith?
 
Kohli’s English series seemed godly but now it looks pretty meh in comparison to what Smith did.

That’s what he does. Keeps pushing the envelope from where other batsmen left off.
 
Chrish said:
Kohli’s English series seemed godly but now it looks pretty meh in comparison to what Smith did.

That’s what he does. Keeps pushing the envelope from where other batsmen left off.
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Fair point about the English series. However, I would add that Anderson did not play at the Ashes, whereas he was the best bowler from both sides in the India-England series.

Both batsmen outplayed the other batsmen from both sides. Kohli averaged 59, whereas the 2nd best bat in the series averaged 38. Smith averaged 110, whereas the 2nd best averaged 55.

Smith is definitely the better bat in tests between these two, however, I would not call them on a different tier, yet!
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Thats not the only way you judge a player,laxman was more clutch than rahul,tendulkar combined but he wasnt anywhere near them in terms of batting prowess.

Smith is a nobody in t20i,kohli has won two man of the tourney in t20 world cups,so there is clearly no competition.
As far as odis are concerned Smith is not even in the same galaxy as Kohli, and no you cant become a great just by performing in odi knockouts.
Being clutch is not the only thing that matters.

Smith is obviously a ountrymile ahead of kohli in tests ,no comparison.
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No offence but if I am not mistaken while comparing Pant with Dhoni you said Performances in tests > Performances in LOI's and you put Pant above Dhoni in that comparison. Why can't Smith be above Kohli on the basis of his test performances alone? :inti
 
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He was man of the tournament in last 2 worldt20's.
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Neither of which he was able to win. Shame.

It's funny that with the IPL and all the talent that come to the fore because of it, we still don't have a settled LOI side. In fact, we had to throw away any long-term planning and send Vijay Shankar at No. 4 a month before the World Cup, then send Pant up even though he didn't get many games the year before. I expect the ICC trophy drought to continue next year as well
 
Sidilicious said:
Fair point about the English series. However, I would add that Anderson did not play at the Ashes, whereas he was the best bowler from both sides in the India-England series.

Both batsmen outplayed the other batsmen from both sides. Kohli averaged 59, whereas the 2nd best bat in the series averaged 38. Smith averaged 110, whereas the 2nd best averaged 55.

Smith is definitely the better bat in tests between these two, however, I would not call them on a different tier, yet!
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There is no indication that Smith would have struggled against Anderson based on his performance from previous series. If anything, he wouldn’t have been retired hurt from concussion and probably would have scored 200 runs more had he not missed the three innings.

And he averaged 10 runs more per inning than Kohli!!! Do you even grasp the magnitude of what that means? What else does he need to do to be considered different tire? Average 100?

And keep in mind Kohli averaged 10 while Smith 70 when they played in India. Smith was facing Ashwin and Jadeja.
 
Chrish said:
There is no indication that Smith would have struggled against Anderson based on his performance from previous series. If anything, he wouldn’t have been retired hurt from concussion and probably would have scored 200 runs more had he not missed the three innings.

And he averaged 10 runs more per inning than Kohli!!! Do you even grasp the magnitude of what that means? What else does he need to do to be considered different tire? Average 100?

And keep in mind Kohli averaged 10 while Smith 70 when they played in India. Smith was facing Ashwin and Jadeja.
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kohli plays far more games than smith. Fatigue plays a role. I want to see kohli focus entirely on test cricket and world cup specifically rather than these rubbish bilaterals, t20 games etc. I am certain kohli would average as high as smith if he put more emphasis on test cricket. He is an all rounder. He likes to diversify his skillset. Kohli is required to play all formats because people want to see him play so he is bound to be fatigued at some point unlike smith who plays far less games overall.
smith is the GOAT of test cricket but the gap isn't as big as you make it seem. Kohli will always step his game up and I am sure he will raise the bar again.
 
tyron_woodley said:
kohli plays far more games than smith. Fatigue plays a role. I want to see kohli focus entirely on test cricket and world cup specifically rather than these rubbish bilaterals, t20 games etc. I am certain kohli would average as high as smith if he put more emphasis on test cricket. He is an all rounder. He likes to diversify his skillset. Kohli is required to play all formats because people want to see him play so he is bound to be fatigued at some point unlike smith who plays far less games overall.
smith is the GOAT of test cricket but the gap isn't as big as you make it seem. Kohli will always step his game up and I am sure he will raise the bar again.
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When Smith came back, he had an immense pressure to redeem himself and yet he averaged 100. Moreover, he is a one man army. He doesn’t have Pujara, Rahane, Rohit etc to bail him out. If he had the same support, he might be averaging 75 instead of 65. Smith not only scores more runs, his runs are much more clutch.

Tell me when Kohli comes anywhere within average difference of 5 runs from Smith. Until then Smith is on a different plane and I don’t see it changing in foreseeable future.
 
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Neither of which he was able to win. Shame.

It's funny that with the IPL and all the talent that come to the fore because of it, we still don't have a settled LOI side. In fact, we had to throw away any long-term planning and send Vijay Shankar at No. 4 a month before the World Cup, then send Pant up even though he didn't get many games the year before. I expect the ICC trophy drought to continue next year as well
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In 2014 India lost because of Dhoni and Yuvraj slow batting,In 2016 because of ashwin's no ball.
In both worldt20 dhoni was captain.
So you can't blame him.
I agree with you rest of the points you mentioned.
 
Chrish said:
There is no indication that Smith would have struggled against Anderson based on his performance from previous series. If anything, he wouldn’t have been retired hurt from concussion and probably would have scored 200 runs more had he not missed the three innings.

And he averaged 10 runs more per inning than Kohli!!! Do you even grasp the magnitude of what that means? What else does he need to do to be considered different tire? Average 100?

And keep in mind Kohli averaged 10 while Smith 70 when they played in India. Smith was facing Ashwin and Jadeja.
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Smith obviously had a better series than Kohli in England. However, you cannot just double the numbers, as it was obvious that Kohli scored runs in tougher conditions that when Smith scored those runs. From the fact that the next best in Kohli's series averaged 39 (vs Kohli's 55) and the next best at Smith's series was 55 (vs Smith's 110).

If you compare their performances in India, you also need to take into consideration the 2018 tour of South Africa by both India and Aus within 2 months of each other. Again, India faced much tougher conditions (looking at the overall averages) and Kohli out batted Smith. (Average of 23 for Smith vs 47 for Kohli). Kohli had the highest average in the series, as opposed to Smith, who did not even make it to the top 10.

As I said Smith is clearly the better bat, and significantly more clutch. However, he is not in a different tier yet.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Level below smith? Next you will say Lara Viv Tendulkar are below Smith.

No he has not. He is one format batsman. While The greatest are all format greats
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The same one format batsman that won his team the world cup in 2015? Played the innings of the world cup in the semi final against India and Kohli, the king of chase and everything could manage just 1?

Smith is a brilliant ODI and T20 batsman as well, it's just that they don't play these formats as much because they care less.

In the 2nd T20 against Pakistan he showed how good a batsman he is in every format.
 
Virat is heading on its way to become one of the greatest batsmen of all-time.

He averages an electrifying 60 in ODI cricket with more than 11,000 runs to his name and has already played 240 games at just age of 31. Just not that he has also cemented his legacy as the greatest run-chaser of all-time.

With an average of 50 in T20 cricket, he has proved his worth there as well, more importantly in T20s, it's not about average but your ability to win games for your teams and legacy is what matters and he has that with him. This is something with other blokes who average close to 50 or even 40 have still to built to be considered a great T20 player and not just a good one.

Coming to the highest format of the game, Test cricket, he has also proved his worth there as he looks well on his way to end with 13K test runs at average over 50 and atleast 40 hundreds to his name.
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
No offence but if I am not mistaken while comparing Pant with Dhoni you said Performances in tests > Performances in LOI's and you put Pant above Dhoni in that comparison. Why can't Smith be above Kohli on the basis of his test performances alone? :inti
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I rate smith above kohli.
I just don't agree that smith is better than kohli in odis just bcoz he performed well in 2015 wc knockouts.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I rate smith above kohli.
I just don't agree that smith is better than kohli in odis just bcoz he performed well in 2015 wc knockouts.
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And you are absolutely right to no agree that Smith is better than Kohli in ODI's.

The problem with Smith LOI's number is that he has not played consistently in the format, no fix role for him. And some people, mostly Kohli fans, want us to believe that Smith is a poor ODI/T20 bat. And that is surely not the case. You don't base your judgement on one or two innings but his innings vs Pakistan was just brilliant.
 
Comparing Smith to Kohli in odis is like comparing Mohd Amir or zaheer khan with waqar younis.

Just bcoz zaheer was outstanding in 2011(or amir in 2019) world cup doesnt mean that he is better than waqar in odis,they are galaxies apart.
Zaheer isnt good enough to tie waqar's shoelaces.

Now thats the best explanation i can come up with,you may still belive that smith is better in odis but remember that 90% of the world disagrees with u and they all have genuine reasons.

For me smith is on par with Gambhir in odis,their career stats are quite similar and they have an apetite for tough runs in knockout matches.

waqar,countrymile,zaheer/amir
kohli,countrymile,smith in lois.

in tests Smith is a league above kohli.
 
Comparing Smith to Kohli in odis is like comparing Mohd Amir or zaheer khan with waqar younis.

Just bcoz zaheer was outstanding in 2011(or amir in 2019) world cup doesnt mean that he is better than waqar in odis,they are galaxies apart.
Zaheer isnt good enough to tie waqar's shoelaces.

Now thats the best explanation i can come up with,you may still belive that smith is better in odis but remember that 90% of the world disagrees with u and they all have genuine reasons.

For me smith is on par with Gambhir in odis,their career stats are quite similar and they have an apetite for tough runs in knockout matches.

waqar,countrymile,zaheer/amir
kohli,countrymile,smith in lois.

in tests Smith is a league above kohli. [MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION] [MENTION=146270]WengerOut[/MENTION]
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Comparing Smith to Kohli in odis is like comparing Mohd Amir or zaheer khan with waqar younis.

Just bcoz zaheer was outstanding in 2011(or amir in 2019) world cup doesnt mean that he is better than waqar in odis,they are galaxies apart.
Zaheer isnt good enough to tie waqar's shoelaces.

Now thats the best explanation i can come up with,you may still belive that smith is better in odis but remember that 90% of the world disagrees with u and they all have genuine reasons.

For me smith is on par with Gambhir in odis,their career stats are quite similar and they have an apetite for tough runs in knockout matches.

waqar,countrymile,zaheer/amir
kohli,countrymile,smith in lois.

in tests Smith is a league above kohli.
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excellent explanation as usual. Love this man's posts. I agree but I would like to add that kohli has what it takes to be a better test batsman than smith too. He is too focused on being this all rounder that's elite in all formats. It's hard to maintain a top ranking in all formats due to the amount of games Kohli plays compared to smith. I reckon he should focus more on test and give less important to t20. Kohli will raise the bar again I am sure about it. like ronaldo and messi. Always neck and neck. these 2.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Comparing Smith to Kohli in odis is like comparing Mohd Amir or zaheer khan with waqar younis.

Just bcoz zaheer was outstanding in 2011(or amir in 2019) world cup doesnt mean that he is better than waqar in odis,they are galaxies apart.
Zaheer isnt good enough to tie waqar's shoelaces.

Now thats the best explanation i can come up with,you may still belive that smith is better in odis but remember that 90% of the world disagrees with u and they all have genuine reasons.

For me smith is on par with Gambhir in odis,their career stats are quite similar and they have an apetite for tough runs in knockout matches.

waqar,countrymile,zaheer/amir
kohli,countrymile,smith in lois.

in tests Smith is a league above kohli. [MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION] [MENTION=146270]WengerOut[/MENTION]
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Kohli is the best ODI bat of the fab 4 so I also rate him higher than Smith.
My only issue is that I will not use Smith stats to say he is mediocre in ODI'S. His stats are like this because he hasn't played regularly in the format.

Playing more regularly I am sure he will also average 50 in ODI cricket.
Might not reach the level of Kohli still.
 
Mobashir said:
Kohli is the best ODI bat of the fab 4 so I also rate him higher than Smith.
My only issue is that I will not use Smith stats to say he is mediocre in ODI'S. His stats are like this because he hasn't played regularly in the format.

Playing more regularly I am sure he will also average 50 in ODI cricket.
Might not reach the level of Kohli still.
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By the same logic , if kohli decides to shift his focus from lois he will also get better in tests.
So this logic wont work.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
By the same logic , if kohli decides to shift his focus from lois he will also get better in tests.
So this logic wont work.
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Kohli already plays every possible test. He has already claimed many a times how test cricket is the most important format etc.
Smith has 118 ODI'S overs more than 10 years and 15 T20's over the last 5 years.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India skipper Virat Kohli in the Adelaide Oval nets today (watch with the sound on).<a href="https://twitter.com/alintaenergy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@alintaenergy</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AUSvIND</a> <a href="https://t.co/OnhH5i7xkP">pic.twitter.com/OnhH5i7xkP</a></p>— cricket.com.au (@cricketcomau) <a href="https://twitter.com/cricketcomau/status/1069875373666516993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That sound of the bat is just amazing.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India skipper Virat Kohli in the Adelaide Oval nets today (watch with the sound on).<a href="https://twitter.com/alintaenergy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@alintaenergy</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AUSvIND</a> <a href="https://t.co/OnhH5i7xkP">pic.twitter.com/OnhH5i7xkP</a></p>— cricket.com.au (@cricketcomau) <a href="https://twitter.com/cricketcomau/status/1069875373666516993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That sound of the bat is just amazing.
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That is his special. Just like Yuvraj singh who i think has the best bat sound i have ever heard.
 
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That is his special. Just like Yuvraj singh who i think has the best bat sound i have ever heard.
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I have never seen anyone timing the ball as well as Yuvi, one of the top 5 talents since Sachin. I still think he underachieved massively.
 
Hyperion66 said:
I have never seen anyone timing the ball as well as Yuvi, one of the top 5 talents since Sachin. I still think he underachieved massively.
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Can’t agree more he is one person who when performed got India the cup, was my second fav player for years but defn didn’t have a hard work attitude unless out of the team when he would work hard and make a comeback.

After 2011 , that wasn't under his control.
 
JaDed said:
Can’t agree more he is one person who when performed got India the cup, was my second fav player for years but defn didn’t have a hard work attitude unless out of the team when he would work hard and make a comeback.

After 2011 , that wasn't under his control.
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because yuvraj like most indian players in the 90s and 2000 were lazy and unfit. Post kohli they have become machines.
 
tyron_woodley said:
because yuvraj like most indian players in the 90s and 2000 were lazy and unfit. Post kohli they have become machines.
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How old are you? Don't get me wrong, I am asking because I think you probably missed the first 8-10 years of his career, he was one of the fittest and best fielder in our team. He never looked the same after the cancer treatment. That 'Lazy and Unfit' man won us two bloody world cups which our super fit megastar Kohli and his machines has not been able to do so far. So how about you some respect brother? The man has earned it.
 
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JaDed said:
Can’t agree more he is one person who when performed got India the cup, was my second fav player for years but defn didn’t have a hard work attitude unless out of the team when he would work hard and make a comeback.

After 2011 , that wasn't under his control.
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He was a natural athlete, I have heard about others being lazy in the nets or gym but not him ever. The thing that he lacked was patience. I think he should have gotten a longer rope in tests but probably a bit unlucky with so many test greats being already in the XI. If he was born a decade later, he would be a mainstay of our middle order in all three formats by now.
 
Hyperion66 said:
He was a natural athlete, I have heard about others being lazy in the nets or gym but not him ever. The thing that he lacked was patience. I think he should have gotten a longer rope in tests but probably a bit unlucky with so many test greats being already in the XI. If he was born a decade later, he would be a mainstay of our middle order in all three formats by now.
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I didn’t mean his fitness but to fine tune his batting abilities , he didn’t have the hunger that guys like Sachin, Kohli had..
 
Hyperion66 said:
How old are you? Don't get me wrong, I am asking because I think you probably missed the first 8-10 years of his career, he was one of the fittest and best fielder in our team. He never looked the same after the cancer treatment. That 'Lazy and Unfit' man won us two bloody world cups which our super fit megastar Kohli and his machines has not been able to do so far. So how about you some respect brother? The man has earned it.
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don't get me wrong. I respect the hell out of yuvraj but test cricket is the premier format of cricket and yuvraj was mediocre in tests unfortunately. Kohli and his machines have established themselves as a great test team and that alone is greater than any world cup triumph etc. Besides kohli already has won a WC. I do agree a world cup win would be nice but maintaining twst number 1 status is far greater than any other achievement. I don't even care if we lose the world test championship finals as it's played in a one off game. The team that wins the league is the best in my opinion which means being number 1.
This doesn't apply to odi rankings because teams often work out different combinations and don't take odi bilaterals seriously. Test cricket is a totally different ball game. Every match counts and you always have to pick your best players.
 
tyron_woodley said:
don't get me wrong. I respect the hell out of yuvraj but test cricket is the premier format of cricket and yuvraj was mediocre in tests unfortunately. Kohli and his machines have established themselves as a great test team and that alone is greater than any world cup triumph etc. Besides kohli already has won a WC. I do agree a world cup win would be nice but maintaining twst number 1 status is far greater than any other achievement. I don't even care if we lose the world test championship finals as it's played in a one off game. The team that wins the league is the best in my opinion which means being number 1.
This doesn't apply to odi rankings because teams often work out different combinations and don't take odi bilaterals seriously. Test cricket is a totally different ball game. Every match counts and you always have to pick your best players.
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Wow didn't know you are such a test puritan. Don't agree about Yuvi being mediocre in tests, didn't get too many chances due to already having an ATG line up. Anyways let's agree to disagree.
 
JaDed said:
I didn’t mean his fitness but to fine tune his batting abilities , he didn’t have the hunger that guys like Sachin, Kohli had..
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I have to agree man, don't see any other reason why a player of his talent and ability would underachieve this much.
 
This man’s PR team is absolutely annoying , somehow Mayank’s double ton is getting overshadowed with his antics.
 
JaDed said:
Didn’t even know just googled, lol the guy has become full of himself!
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He always has been he shows it off like he isn’t but all he posts on Instagram are about his brand. All the clothes he wears and the food he eats are his own brand also lmao it’s called like one8 or something
 
Mean&Green said:
He always has been he shows it off like he isn’t but all he posts on Instagram are about his brand. All the clothes he wears and the food he eats are his own brand also lmao it’s called like one8 or something
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I feel like he has taken it up a notch now.
 
JaDed said:
Didn’t even know just googled, lol the guy has become full of himself!
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Mean&Green said:
He always has been he shows it off like he isn’t but all he posts on Instagram are about his brand. All the clothes he wears and the food he eats are his own brand also lmao it’s called like one8 or something
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Cant blame him. Endorsements and sponsorship have always been a big source of earnings for all the top sportsmen. Also as the career of a any sportsman is for 15-20 years max so they usually start certain brands and businesses when they are at their peak.
 
Most Test Wins as Captain :

G Smith - 53 (109 Matches)
R Ponting - 48 (77)
S Waugh - 41 (57)
C Lloyd - 36 (74)
VIRAT KOHLI - 32 (52)
 
Virat Kohli becomes the first Indian captain to register 10th innings victory in Test history...
 
Titan24 said:
Cant blame him. Endorsements and sponsorship have always been a big source of earnings for all the top sportsmen. Also as the career of a any sportsman is for 15-20 years max so they usually start certain brands and businesses when they are at their peak.
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No issues with that as such, my issue is more with him overshadowing his colleague's success.
 
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