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Will Joe Root beat Sachin Tendulkar's record in Tests for most runs?

Lara, Ponting, Kallis, Sangakkara, Cook .... and now Root.

Long list of adopted heroes for Pakistani fans.
Their very good players any neutral fan would love these players your comment makes me think your worried about Joe Root...possibly doing something special and passing a certain records.
He might do it he might not, but why not just watch and appreciate what he has achieved so far if you truly love the game of cricket
 
Their very good players any neutral fan would love these players your comment makes me think your worried about Joe Root...possibly doing something special and passing a certain records.
He might do it he might not, but why not just watch and appreciate what he has achieved so far if you truly love the game of cricket
The point is , Pakistanis have been dearly waiting for someone to be able to overhaul Tendulkar's record.
Already the examples and the instances have been pointed out before. and I am sure there would be threads in PP about Cook, Clarke etc will be able to overtake Sachin's record.
 
The point is , Pakistanis have been dearly waiting for someone to be able to overhaul Tendulkar's record.
Already the examples and the instances have been pointed out before. and I am sure there would be threads in PP about Cook, Clarke etc will be able to overtake Sachin's record.
I think most neutrals would like to see the record broke and records do get broken eventually. If it was a Pakistani who had the most test runs, Indians would be dearly waiting for someone to overhaul his record as well.
 
I think most neutrals would like to see the record broke and records do get broken eventually. If it was a Pakistani who had the most test runs, Indians would be dearly waiting for someone to overhaul his record as well.
Sports lovers love the mountains being climbed yes, and we are partisan lovers of our own players and teams.
But Pakistan love for anyone coming close to Sachin's stats is strikingly unique. Let's just call it what it is, we don't need the facade of neutrality here.
Indians were so glad when Charles Conventry made 194, we would say not out should come above 194 out of Saeed Anwar.
and then SRT made 200. Peaceeeeeee and relief :P
We like to one up each other wherever possible, so just accept the honest reality. Its our rivalry
No one is neutral!
 
It gives all of the batting line up clarity of thought. I don't mind the approach. It's entertaining cricket and team first.

But those attributes don't help much when you are trying to chase down the biggest stat padder of all time.

Yes, Babar Azam has at least the behavioural qualities to chase down this record, but very little else :yk3

I should keep quiet about this one, another reason for his Hareh Krishnah fan club to go pagal over.
 
If Joe Root does an Anderson he will overtake Sachin easily.

If he does a Cook and retires early... then No.
 
If Joe Root does an Anderson he will overtake Sachin easily.

If he does a Cook and retires early... then No.
he is fit enough to prolong his career but i dont think so ECB will allow him to play that long
 
If Joe Root does an Anderson he will overtake Sachin easily.

If he does a Cook and retires early... then No.
More than the what you have posted, there is thing called Bazball that will get in his way from getting to Tendulkar.

Currently, he is not able to fit into the Bazball system. He is not cut out for it. He will continue to fail more than succeed. I do not see Bazball ending anytime soon. Which means it will bring an end to Root's career sooner than later.

So, I do not see Root going past Tendulkar in runs or centuries. He is about 4k runs away and about 20 centuries away.
 
Playing 200 tests is no joke. If somehow root is able to play that many, he will definitely be ahead of SRT but I don't think that is going to happen. These guys tend to retire early no mater the age is 34 or 35.

200 tests is far from root IMO.
 
Ponting predicts Tendulkar run tally record to tumble

The Australian great thinks England batter Joe Root might be able to break Sachin Tendulkar's record.

Australia legend Ricky Ponting thinks England batter Joe Root has every chance of overtaking both he and Sachin Tendulkar and becoming Test cricket's greatest run-scorer.

Root only recently scored his 12,000th Test run to become the seventh highest run-scorer of all time and the 33-year-old has second-placed Ponting and Tendulkar's overall record within sight.

The English right-hander is within 1,351 runs of Ponting (13,378) and less than 4,000 runs adrift of Tendulkar (15,921) and could cut into this even further during his side's ICC World Test Championship series against Sri Lanka that commences later this month.

Ponting paid compliment to Root when discussing his batting heroics on the most recent edition of The ICC Review and believes the world's No.1 ranked Test batter can reach even greater heights should his current rich vein of form continue.

"He could potentially do that," Ponting told host Sanjana Ganesan when asked if Root could overtake Tendulkar's massive tally of runs in Test cricket.

"He is 33 years of age…(more than) 3000 runs behind. It depends how many Test matches they play, but if they're playing 10 to 14 Test matches a year and if you're scoring 800 to 1000 runs a year, then that sort of says he's only three or four years off getting there. So that'll take him to 37 (years of age).

"If his hunger's still there, then there's every chance that he could do it."

Root scored his 32nd Test century against the West Indies last month in Nottingham in what was the fourth time he has reached triple figures since the start of last year.

While Root's Test century tally is still well adrift of Tendulkar’s massive tally of 51, Ponting noted how much better the England batter had become in converting his good starts into big scores in recent times.

"He is someone that in the last couple of years has got better and better," Ponting added.

"There's always talk around batters reaching their prime in their early 30s and he's certainly done that.

"It's been his conversion rates being the big thing. Four or five years ago, he was making a lot of 50s and struggling to go on and make hundreds and he's gone the other way recently.

"Almost every time he gets to 50 now, he goes on and makes a big hundred. So that's been the real turnaround for him."

 
A crucial fifty for Joe Root against Sri Lanka, he is still on crease and victory now just seems around the corner. Will he stay there to finish things off in style?.Currently at 53* (114)
 
Playing 200 tests is no joke. If somehow root is able to play that many, he will definitely be ahead of SRT but I don't think that is going to happen. These guys tend to retire early no mater the age is 34 or 35.

200 tests is far from root IMO.
Its about number of innings and not number of matches.

Tendulkar played 329 innings total. If Root plays 180 tests, he would probably get to 330 innings.
 
Most fifties in Test cricket:-

Sachin Tendulkar - 68
Joe Root - 64

Only 5 fifties to go past SRT's record.
 
I can see Root breaking Tendulkar's record. He is an incredible player with an unreal level of consistency who plays more test matches than any player from any other country.

But he can't claim to be England's greatest batter until he wins England the Ashes in Australia.

There's a reason why Cook and Pietersen are a level above him.
 
I can see Root breaking Tendulkar's record. He is an incredible player with an unreal level of consistency who plays more test matches than any player from any other country.

But he can't claim to be England's greatest batter until he wins England the Ashes in Australia.

There's a reason why Cook and Pietersen are a level above him.
Too big an ask for him, poor chap got hospitalized for that before as a captain
 
Too big an ask for him, poor chap got hospitalized for that before as a captain
The England side under him was a far different side than the one it is right now under Stokes. And leaving captaincy has actually allowed him to rediscover who he is as a batter. The next Ashes is his best chance to etch his name in history.
 
I can see Root breaking Tendulkar's record. He is an incredible player with an unreal level of consistency who plays more test matches than any player from any other country.

But he can't claim to be England's greatest batter until he wins England the Ashes in Australia.

There's a reason why Cook and Pietersen are a level above him.

Damn, winning is a function of team and not individuals.

Tendulkar didn't won a test series in Australia either. Kohli won one vs weak Australian side and guess what Rahane won vs a full strength Australian side. Winning should not be the benchmark, Root has been below par in Australia but in rest of the world, he has been excellent and averages 50 despite playing tough away tours. He has done superb vs Australia at home nevertheless.

Root is comfortably a better batsman than Cook and KP. The second best batsman in Root's era is Stokes,who averages 15 lesser than him. It is that much hard job for Root.
 
Damn, winning is a function of team and not individuals.

Tendulkar didn't won a test series in Australia either. Kohli won one vs weak Australian side and guess what Rahane won vs a full strength Australian side. Winning should not be the benchmark, Root has been below par in Australia but in rest of the world, he has been excellent and averages 50 despite playing tough away tours. He has done superb vs Australia at home nevertheless.

Root is comfortably a better batsman than Cook and KP. The second best batsman in Root's era is Stokes,who averages 15 lesser than him. It is that much hard job for Root.
Well that depends on what you consider to be the mark of a great batter. For me it's not just averages and runs. Impact matters more to me.

Cook played starring roles in two of England's greatest triumphs of this millennium in Australia and India. In Australia, he put up maybe the greatest performance by an English batter that atleast I have ever seen in that country. KP may not have been as prolific but played match-changing and series-turning knocks in Adelaide and Mumbai that are still remembered to this day.

You could argue that those England teams were far better than the ones Root played under or even captained. But considering the brand of cricket England have been playing lately and the number of matches they have been winning that doesn't feel like an excuse anymore.
 
I don't think so. Root still has a long way to go if he wants to match SRT record.
 
Most fifties in Tests:

Sachin Tendulkar - 68
Shivnarine Chanderpaul - 66
Joe Root - 65*
Allan Border - 63
Rahul Dravid - 63

*This list is only 50s, does not include 50-plus scores converted into hundreds.
 
Top quality player. I am sure he will become 2nd leading run scorer in tests and probably retire around 15k runs, leaving Pakistani fans over here feel bitter and sour 😂
 
7 more tests eng playing this year.So i can see him finishing over 13K this year itself with this kind of form

Then 3K more to close that magical 16k which is very much possible

Unlike Ponting,Sanga,Kallis or cook this lad is a very close threat to tendulkars tally realistically which is a fact
 
Poor shot from Root to get out. He should avoid these shots, looks ugly and for a player of his class and fluency, he should stick to what he does best.

You don't want to put a chink in your CV that occasionally, he had the knack of reverse sweeping and often got out looking ugly.
 
Joe Root has become the leading run scorer on England soil

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Root is getting closer and closer to Tendulkar's career runs. About 3500 more runs to go.

Root is only 33. If he plays for 6 more years, you never know.
 
England batter Joe Root paid an emotional tribute to the late Graham Thorpe after scoring a milestone 33rd Test hundred against Sri Lanka at Lord’s on Thursday, saying much of his success was down to the impact of his former coach, he said:

“It was nice to be able to think of him [Graham Thorpe] in that moment. He’s someone I’m sorely going to miss, and who I owe a lot to. He put a lot into my game and my career, and without his help, I definitely wouldn’t be where I am now.”

“Before I’d even made a hundred at first-class level he picked me for an England Lions (A team) game against Sri Lanka at Scarborough,” said Root.

“He saw something with me… He pushed very hard for me to be involved in that India tour where I made my debut (in 2012) and from that point onwards we worked together.”

“It evolved into more than that, we became good friends and I really enjoyed spending a lot of time with him. It was nice to pay a small tribute. He means a lot to me and that was a small thank you.”
 
England star batter Joe Root recently opened up on the prospect of surpassing legendary Indian batter Sachin Tendulkar as the highest run-scorer in Test cricket, he said:

“I just want to play, and try, and do my bit for the team and score the runs as many as I can and see where we get to,”

“It’s obviously amazing when, you score 100, you’d be lying if you said it wasn’t, a big part of why you start playing the game and what you love about it.

“But there’s no better feeling than winning a Test match. So the more, it can affect games and the more you can, add to the team, the greater it is. So, that will be the main focus. And hopefully more days like this will come with that mentality.”
 
Here’s a comparison of Joe Root’s Test record with Sachin Tendulkar’s after the same number of innings

Could he surpass the records for most Test runs and centuries?

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Here’s a comparison of Joe Root’s Test record with Sachin Tendulkar’s after the same number of innings

Could he surpass the records for most Test runs and centuries?

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Pakistan has given root the golden opportunity to stat pad.
 
Here’s a comparison of Joe Root’s Test record with Sachin Tendulkar’s after the same number of innings

Could he surpass the records for most Test runs and centuries?

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So there isn’t daylight between the two as some insecure Indians would claim. Now they will give us cap about different on bowling standards.
 
Here’s a comparison of Joe Root’s Test record with Sachin Tendulkar’s after the same number of innings

Could he surpass the records for most Test runs and centuries?

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The only thing that stop Root is this bazball approach where he sometimes throws his wicket away on cheap trick shots but he does it for the benefit of the team.

If he had the same level of selfish stubborness as Sachin the record will be easier to break.

For a long time Indian cricket just existed to allow Sachin to score runs. Joe doesn't have the same luxury.
 
Here’s a comparison of Joe Root’s Test record with Sachin Tendulkar’s after the same number of innings

Could he surpass the records for most Test runs and centuries?

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Thanks for posting this.

I've always maintained one thing on that Sachin was unmatched in odi but in test their were multiple players even in his era who were superior to him and it's just Indians have a 1.3B mafia that they'll disagree with this notion.

However I still believe Sachin in his era was the best odi player of his time.
 
The only thing that stop Root is this bazball approach where he sometimes throws his wicket away on cheap trick shots but he does it for the benefit of the team.

If he had the same level of selfish stubborness as Sachin the record will be easier to break.

For a long time Indian cricket just existed to allow Sachin to score runs. Joe doesn't have the same luxury.
True . Root bats like a selfless Pakistani batsman . His record in Australia reflects that. Very admirable.
 
True . Root bats like a selfless Pakistani batsman . His record in Australia reflects that. Very admirable.
Jokes aside root is a fantastic Test batter.

And ik you guys like Sachin and view him as the God of cricket but I have seen their eras as well.

Sachin for me is unmatched in odi no doubt. I haven't seen a more complete batsmen them Sachin in his era, Only other batter that compares is viv Richards who was equally dominant in his era.

But in test their were better batters then him, yes he has the records and the longer games and the longevity, but imo the likes of Lara, Sanga were superior to him in the format and root is comparable, I think Sachin > Root in test but Sachin isn't a million times superior, their comparable really.
 
True . Root bats like a selfless Pakistani batsman . His record in Australia reflects that. Very admirable.
Sachin has done very well in Sydney and that inflates his record. Back then Sydney was closest to a SC pitch and Sachin cashed in with some hundreds in drawn matches while occasionally covering up for racist abuse.
 
Sachin has done very well in Sydney and that inflates his record. Back then Sydney was closest to a SC pitch and Sachin cashed in with some hundreds in drawn matches while occasionally covering up for racist abuse.
Lara > Sanga > Sachin > Root in test.

That's the God honest truth. Although Sachin and root are in the same ball park, not much difference
 
Lara > Sanga > Sachin > Root in test.

That's the God honest truth. Although Sachin and root are in the same ball park, not much difference
That's your opinion and it's ok to have it. I would have some other batsmen between Sanga and Sachin too. But everyone is entitled to your opinion. The problem is Indians will lynch you for it and give you abuse based on your ethnicity.
 
Jokes aside root is a fantastic Test batter.

And ik you guys like Sachin and view him as the God of cricket but I have seen their eras as well.

Sachin for me is unmatched in odi no doubt. I haven't seen a more complete batsmen them Sachin in his era, Only other batter that compares is viv Richards who was equally dominant in his era.

But in test their were better batters then him, yes he has the records and the longer games and the longevity, but imo the likes of Lara, Sanga were superior to him in the format and root is comparable, I think Sachin > Root in test but Sachin isn't a million times superior, their comparable really.
I don't think SRT is the greatest Test batter and he's certainly not the God of cricket for me.

But in this era when Test cricket is virtually dead outside of the Big 3, it's difficult to rate someone as ATG based on Tests alone.
 
That's your opinion and it's ok to have it. I would have some other batsmen between Sanga and Sachin too. But everyone is entitled to your opinion. The problem is Indians will lynch you for it and give you abuse based on your ethnicity.
Their are various other batters between Sachin and sanga. I can't list all of them, I was mostly trying to illustrate tiers.

Like theirs the lara tier of test batters

Then the sanga tier

Then the Sachin tier

And then the root tier

If that makes sense?
 
Sachin has done very well in Sydney and that inflates his record. Back then Sydney was closest to a SC pitch and Sachin cashed in with some hundreds in drawn matches while occasionally covering up for racist abuse.
114 in Perth in 1992
116 in Melbourne in 1999
153 in Adelaide in 2008
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Next question - 'How many of them came in wins?'
 
I don't think SRT is the greatest Test batter and he's certainly not the God of cricket for me.

But in this era when Test cricket is virtually dead outside of the Big 3, it's difficult to rate someone as ATG based on Tests alone.

What someone's rates as ATG is subjective my dude. Their people here who rate Misbah as an ATG lol.

Regardless Sachin is still > root as a test batter. It's just that indian fans believe Sachin is some bradman due to books and statements.

Sachin for me is the only player on the planet who is overrated despite being a GOAT player.

Usually overrated batsmen are for people like rizwam and Babar lol.

And that's because Sachin has been hyped us as some Bruce Lee or chuck norris level folklore.

Like no offence to Bruce Lee fans, but he struggled life and limb in his prime against lower to middle weight martial artists in kick boxing, and other forms of marital arts. The whole he can destroy 50 boards of wooden blocks qith his pinky is science fiction. Brock lesnar alone would crush Lee into pieces.

Same qith chuck norris, Dude has losses but people think if he entered world war 2 he'd solo it with his toe.

Sachin is unmatched in odi and their better players then him in test, but even in odi he isn't > Everyone in all metrics. Kohli's a better chaser, Rohit a better PP utiliser, De villers is superior against West Indies and Australia etc etc.
 
114 in Perth in 1992
116 in Melbourne in 1999
153 in Adelaide in 2008
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Next question - 'How many of them came in wins?'
They are good knocks but his overall record is inflated by Sydney.
 
Sachin has done very well in Sydney and that inflates his record. Back then Sydney was closest to a SC pitch and Sachin cashed in with some hundreds in drawn matches while occasionally covering up for racist abuse.
Sachin has tons at Perth , Melbourne and Adelaide as well.

In fact, Root is the one who doesn't have a great record against on pitches with pace and bounce.

A solitary 110 at the Wanderers against a depleted attack which didn't have Steyn or Philander.

Tendulkar has tons at Wanderers, Supersport, Newlands and and the aforementioned Australian venues.

And he protected Bhajji from that foul mouthed bully that ileas Symonds and pretty much ended Symonds' career. A real hero 😍
 
Sachin has tons at Perth , Melbourne and Adelaide as well.

In fact, Root is the one who doesn't have a great record against on pitches with pace and bounce.

A solitary 110 at the Wanderers against a depleted attack which didn't have Steyn or Philander.

Tendulkar has tons at Wanderers, Supersport, Newlands and and the aforementioned Australian venues.

And he protected Bhajji from that foul mouthed bully that ileas Symonds and pretty much ended Symonds' career. A real hero 😍
His protection of racist bhajji also in the end contributed to the end of Symonds life according to many experts.

Please think twice about making these statements and abusing the deceased. Just like your criminal "god" you guys are willing to cross all boundaries to try and get ahead.
 
Sachin has tons at Perth , Melbourne and Adelaide as well.

In fact, Root is the one who doesn't have a great record against on pitches with pace and bounce.

A solitary 110 at the Wanderers against a depleted attack which didn't have Steyn or Philander.

Tendulkar has tons at Wanderers, Supersport, Newlands and and the aforementioned Australian venues.

And he protected Bhajji from that foul mouthed bully that ileas Symonds and pretty much ended Symonds' career. A real hero 😍
Moral of the story - Never, ever take the opinion of random nobodies from Pakistan about anything related to India seriously, whether it be admiration or contempt.

You've seen clear and well what their admiration is like, and how it turns out to be (Mamoon).
 
114 in Perth in 1992
116 in Melbourne in 1999
153 in Adelaide in 2008
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Next question - 'How many of them came in wins?'
Btw just to add in this case it doesn't matter how many came in wins.

Australia was a crazy place to tour back then more than it is now. Tough pitches, tough crowds and even tougher opposition. Sachin stood tall a few times when other batsmen ( from all countries) whimpered away. He deserves respect for that no matter the match result.
 
A guy who debuted in 80s being compared to an active player, for batting records. Despite era diffrence, the guy still wipes floor with the modern day great Root even in his weaker format.
 
Sachin in test is > root no doubt.

Better comparison would be Lara vs Sanga vs Sachin
 
Sachin in test is > root no doubt.

Better comparison would be Lara vs Sanga vs Sachin
Next 2 years are crucial for Root but I suspect he will continue the bazball way so may not be able to cash in too much.

His lull in his mid career where he couldn't convert his 50s bring him down a bit.
 
114 in Perth in 1992
116 in Melbourne in 1999
153 in Adelaide in 2008
--------------------------------------------------

Next question - 'How many of them came in wins?'

Also 248* in Sydney 2004
 
Sachin in test is > root no doubt.

Better comparison would be Lara vs Sanga vs Sachin

Sanga was a massive FTB who made the most of easiest batting conditions along with the likes of Angelo Mathews and Jayawardne, him being a league above them. Kallis for some reason is a forgotten legend when it comes to these comparisons. Just his batting alone warrants him in the discussion over the likes of Sanga and Root.
 
I was listing his centuries in Australia outside of Sydney.

But don’t worry, the goal posts and the criteria will now be swiftly shifted.

What, who came up with an arbitrary filter like that?
 
Tendulkar probably faced more ATG bowlers than any other batter in history, some of the best bowlers Windies, Saffers, Pakistan, Australia, ever produced. Even had to deal with peak Shane Bond and Muhammad Asif.
This puts him above anyone else
 
His protection of racist bhajji also in the end contributed to the end of Symonds life according to many experts.

Please think twice about making these statements and abusing the deceased. Just like your criminal "god" you guys are willing to cross all boundaries to try and get ahead.
Andrew Symonds got everything that he deserved . He was abusing our players non stop. Death does not sanctify him or elevate him to sainthood.
 
Nobody deserves to be racially abused.
Harbhajan is not an Anglophile to know the connotations of the word "monkey " and that's assuming he even called him that

It's a random insult that is thrown around. Nobody deserves to be abused , racially or not. Symonds had a big mouth and then couldn't take it when someone stood up to his bullying ways.
 
Harbhajan is not an Anglophile to know the connotations of the word "monkey " and that's assuming he even called him that

It's a random insult that is thrown around. Nobody deserves to be abused , racially or not. Symonds had a big mouth and then couldn't take it when someone stood up to his bullying ways.
I agree with your first line. That would have been a good way to defuse the situation. accept fault but show that the word may not have the same meaning in India.

However the way that sly sachin manipulated the statement is a great stain on the game.

and this type of despicable behaviour is something that even stat padding can't cover up.
 
I agree with your first line. That would have been a good way to defuse the situation. accept fault but show that the word may not have the same meaning in India.

However the way that sly sachin manipulated the statement is a great stain on the game.

and this type of despicable behaviour is something that even stat padding can't cover up.
Sorry. But you are taking the word of the Aussies as gospel. I'm not sure why their word is honest and not Sachin's.
 
What evidence exists that Bhajji racially abused Symonds except that the Aussies claimed it?
As in most of thesde cases cases we have to take the word of the victim and the match referee. If a mafia then tries to exert pressure on the proceedings to force a result in their way it shows something dodgy is going on.

And its why a gentleman of the game like Gilchrist - known for his honourable conduct referred to Sachin as a " sore loser".

and why even if he scored 2000 centuries the criminality of Sachin will always be highlighted by people.
 
As in most of thesde cases cases we have to take the word of the victim and the match referee. If a mafia then tries to exert pressure on the proceedings to force a result in their way it shows something dodgy is going on.
So you want the world to accept what the Aussies claimed without any evidence? Great going!

😂😂 Sanath Jayasuriya and the Sri Lankans accused Glenn McGrath of calling him a black monkey. Except they had no proof and McGrath walked free.​

And its why a gentleman of the game like Gilchrist - known for his honourable conduct referred to Sachin as a " sore loser".

and why even if he scored 2000 centuries the criminality of Sachin will always be highlighted by people.
Gentleman of the game who appealed screamed his lungs everytime the Aussie bowlers deliberately made a dishonest appeal?

Gilly said in his book that when India lost a match, Sachin and other players weren’t in line to congratulate the Aussies and shake their hands. He never called Sachin a ‘sore loser’.
 
Sachin is so unmatched in ODIs, he couldn’t even win India a World Cup until he was 38 and even then he had to be carried by his less glorified teammates to finally get his hands on the trophy.

If he was unmatched in ODIs, he would have helped India win in 1996, 1999 and 2003 when he was in his absolute prime.

He was nothing special in the 1999 edition and nothing stopped him from doing what Ponting did in the 2003 World Cup final.

Tendulkar achieved nothing extraordinary in his ODI career.
 
Sachin is so unmatched in ODIs, he couldn’t even win India a World Cup until he was 38 and even then he had to be carried by his less glorified teammates to finally get his hands on the trophy.

If he was unmatched in ODIs, he would have helped India win in 1996, 1999 and 2003 when he was in his absolute prime.

He was nothing special in the 1999 edition and nothing stopped him from doing what Ponting did in the 2003 World Cup final.

Tendulkar achieved nothing extraordinary in his ODI career.
he has 49 centuries and 96 50's batting in a much harder batting era and without the advent of t20. Was the first batter to ever score a 200 in odi

Only got dismissed for a duck 20 times in his odi career. Top scored in 129 innings for his team. Scored nearly 18% of runs of his entire team during his era in odi.

Pointing has the same no of ducks in lesser odi matches, and maintained it at 15% for his entire team and top scored 64X more then half of sachin.
 
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he has 49 centuries and 96 50's batting in a much harder batting era and without the advent of t20. Was the first batter to ever score a 200 in odi

Only got dismissed for a duck 20 times in his odi career. Top scored in 129 innings for his team. Scored nearly 18% of runs of his entire team during his era in odi.

Pointing has the same no of ducks in lesser odi matches, and maintained it at 15% for his entire team and top scored 64X more then half of sachin.
Quality > quantity.

ODI World Cup fever peaked in the 90s and 2000s and all Tendulkar could manage was to take his team to a solitary final (where he miserably failed) over 4 World Cups where was in his prime.

No one asked him to get stumped in the 96 QF, no one asked him to be underwhelming in 99 and no one asked him to fail in the 2003 final.

Perfect batting pitch, perfect sunny conditions. Peak form. The stage was set for him to play a mighty innings like Ponting and support Sehwag who set the cat among the pigeons albeit for a brief period thanks to Tendulkar bottling it under pressure.
 
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Quality > quantity.

ODI World Cup fever peaked in the 90s and 2000s and all Tendulkar could manage was to take his team to a solitary final (where he miserably failed) over 4 World Cups where was in his prime.

No one asked him to get stumped in the 96 QF, no one asked him to be underwhelming in 99 and no one asked him to fail in the 2003 final.

Perfect batting pitch, perfect sunny conditions. Peak form. The stage was set for him to play a mighty innings like Ponting and support Sehwag who set the cat among the pigeons albeit for a brief period thanks to Tendulkar bottling it under pressure.
Wait off topic why does this not apply to fakhar zaman vs Babar azam? Babar azam having more quantity but fakhar having superior quality being the one responsible for ct 2017, getting pak no 1 in t20 rank due to his 91 of 46 in tri series final? Getting pakistan to beat nz via drs, as well as his 193 and 210's?

Now back onto topic, pointing had a pathetic 1999 as well. He only scored 1 50 in 10 games?

Didn't do much in the final against pakistan either? Nor was pointing inpressive in 1996 wc beyond that 1 century while Sachin top scored in that cup and even if Sachin didn't get stumped, their was no way he was winning that. Everyone fell like a house of cards, India collapsed at 120? No one on the planet would have won that. Infact India would have scored a record low, they'd have been out for 40 or 50 if Sachin didn't score 65.

Sachin also top scored in 2003 world cup.

Idkw you're basing pointing > Sachin based of that one innings in 2003 final.

If that's your criteria, are you willing to acknowledge that fakhar zaman is > Babar Azam? If quality vs Quantity is the metric?
 
Interesting stat, Tendulkar averaged 32 vs SENA in SENA in 94 ODIs.
That is the privilege that players pre 2020 and 2010 enjoyed, I did a thread on this as well.

Their shortcomings were hidden from the masses because detailed stats were not available to the general public and players’ records were not dissected. People only looked at the “big” numbers like overall average, runs scored, wickets taken etc.

This is where modern players get excessive criticism because the availability of data and tools like statsguru allow people to cherry pick numbers.

For example, Tendulkar was bang average vs strong bowling attacks in ODI cricket but no one knew, then you had the likes of Saeed Anwar who was a walking wicket in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand but people were unaware of it.

Tendulkar and Saeed Anwar would be ripped to shreds in today’s times with such poor records vs strong bowling attacks away from home.
 
I think Root will end up with 15000 test runs and retire with an average of 49, this ending his career at the same level as Rahul Dravid and Jacques Kallis as test batsman.
 
If it happens, hats off to him. That is a phenomenal achievement. He made debut 12 years back. 145 tests. 12000 runs. That is an average of 12 tests per year. Going by that he is only 3 years away from going past Sachin. Sachin had disadvantage of playin gonly 80 odd tests in the first 12 years. That is about 65 tests less !!!
 
He is like 1000 runs away from having the 2nd most career runs in Test history (only behind Tendulkar).

Source: Cricinfo.

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