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Will Joe Root beat Sachin Tendulkar's record in Tests for most runs?


"However, Root despite having tons of runs under his back Australia has been one place where he could not stamp his authority. He has yet to score a ton Down Under. Kohli on the other hand has had some of his memorable knocks in Australia and Gilchrist would say Kohli’s ton in Perth in 2018 on a greenish wicket was the best he has seen. “Virat scored one of the best tons I’ve seen at the Perth stadium in the first Test match ever played there, that was probably different gravy. I’d probably say Virat.”"

This will always be hanging over Root's head. In the den of arch rival he could not score a 100. He should try to get.
 
Mamoon said:
That is the privilege that players pre 2020 and 2010 enjoyed, I did a thread on this as well.

Their shortcomings were hidden from the masses because detailed stats were not available to the general public and players’ records were not dissected. People only looked at the “big” numbers like overall average, runs scored, wickets taken etc.

This is where modern players get excessive criticism because the availability of data and tools like statsguru allow people to cherry pick numbers.

For example, Tendulkar was bang average vs strong bowling attacks in ODI cricket but no one knew, then you had the likes of Saeed Anwar who was a walking wicket in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand but people were unaware of it.

Tendulkar and Saeed Anwar would be ripped to shreds in today’s times with such poor records vs strong bowling attacks away from home.
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No SC batsman had a stellar record in SENA against SENA until 2001 ish.

The pitches were not homogenised and ODI wickets still had juice in them to aid seam bowlers and were pretty slow

Asian wickets were completely different from these wickets.

Of all the batters, Azhar and Miandad had decent records and that's with very low strike rates of about 68 and 59 respectively.

From 2001 onwards is when SENA pitches got flatter, quicker and with minimal seam movement on offer, allowing more strokeplay.

That's when the SC batters' records started improving significantly.
 
The fact that people are still discussing Tendulkar more than 11 years after his retirement is crazy! He does not need affirmations from basically nobodies sitting at a computer about what he was or wasn’t. His records were just half of his legacy, his greatness lay in his ability to inspire millions of young cricketers around the world in what an ideal batsmanship looked like. Some of you really need to get a life!! Like seriously!
 
Mamoon said:
So there isn’t daylight between the two as some insecure Indians would claim. Now they will give us cap about different on bowling standards.
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Well there is a daylight between them, just look at their away average in top countries, it will have a difference of nearly 9-10 points.
 
mominsaigol said:
Thanks for posting this.

I've always maintained one thing on that Sachin was unmatched in odi but in test their were multiple players even in his era who were superior to him and it's just Indians have a 1.3B mafia that they'll disagree with this notion.

However I still believe Sachin in his era was the best odi player of his time.
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Wrong again, pick their away stats in major nations and you would know how much difference is actually there.
Also pls do tell the names of those multiple players who were better test batsman than him.
 
Ab Fan said:
I think Root will end up with 15000 test runs and retire with an average of 49, this ending his career at the same level as Rahul Dravid and Jacques Kallis as test batsman.
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Not sure about Rahul but I would take Kallis over Root in a jiffy and that too just for batting.
 
Root will have to perform in Australia to stand a chance vs Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting.

In 14-15 tests, he has zero tons in Australia, that's a major blemish and he needs to improve that to be rated in the league of top tier batsman.
 
Root can do it but he ahs to play many games for that. atm he is scoring runs in England but his next tour is in Pakistan so he might struggle there.
 
He is right. It will take a while for anybody else to break his record if JOE ROOT somehow breaks SRT's record.

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Michael Vaughan speaking during a podcast:

"I think it's three and a half thousand runs he trails by. He has at least three years. Unless his back snaps; he is the most enthusiastic lover of the game. I don't think he is going to get away. He is no longer the captain and knows his game better than ever before. I'll be amazed if he doesn't. He has played beautifully.”

"Even if he goes on, I still think he will carry on. If Joe goes past Sachin, it will be the best thing that ever happens to cricket, because there's no way BCCI would want an England player at the top of the list. They'll want an Indian at the top so that will secure Test match cricket because it'll take forever for someone to get past him."
 
BouncerGuy said:
He is right. It will take a while for anybody else to break his record if JOE ROOT somehow breaks SRT's record.

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Michael Vaughan speaking during a podcast:

"I think it's three and a half thousand runs he trails by. He has at least three years. Unless his back snaps; he is the most enthusiastic lover of the game. I don't think he is going to get away. He is no longer the captain and knows his game better than ever before. I'll be amazed if he doesn't. He has played beautifully.”

"Even if he goes on, I still think he will carry on. If Joe goes past Sachin, it will be the best thing that ever happens to cricket, because there's no way BCCI would want an England player at the top of the list. They'll want an Indian at the top so that will secure Test match cricket because it'll take forever for someone to get past him."
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At the rate pakistan is going, we'll easily hand him like a 1000 runs this series alone.

Now way 120kph pacers are gonna trouble an atg English test batter in pindi of all places.

Even if it's moved to uae it won't make a difference
 
Pak crickets going down take tendulkars record with it gift root 600/650 runs in the series.
 
Mamoon said:
Sachin is so unmatched in ODIs, he couldn’t even win India a World Cup until he was 38 and even then he had to be carried by his less glorified teammates to finally get his hands on the trophy.

If he was unmatched in ODIs, he would have helped India win in 1996, 1999 and 2003 when he was in his absolute prime.

He was nothing special in the 1999 edition and nothing stopped him from doing what Ponting did in the 2003 World Cup final.

Tendulkar achieved nothing extraordinary in his ODI career.
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I'm not much active here but have followed you (and some others) for quite long. I've seen a major turnaround in your opinion(s) regarding the Indian team and its players since the T20 WC 2024. I remember you were even supportive/optimistic when India scored 36 vs Australia.
What has caused this paradigm shift?
 
Root can also surpass Tendulkar in terms of most Test centuries.

Root has 34. Tendulkar has 43.
 
Root currently is at 12390 test runs needs 11 to pass the legend Kumar Sangakarra who has 12400 test runs.
 
sweep_shot said:
Thanks for correcting.

Root can surpass it. He needs 18 more centuries.
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It is not about the number of centuries. 100 centuries is no big deal especially when the like of Ramprakash and Viv Richards have scored over 100 centuries in First Class cricket.

What matters is how many of those runs came in wins - Tendulkar tops the loser charts too.
 
worldlife92 said:
I'm not much active here but have followed you (and some others) for quite long. I've seen a major turnaround in your opinion(s) regarding the Indian team and its players since the T20 WC 2024. I remember you were even supportive/optimistic when India scored 36 vs Australia.
What has caused this paradigm shift?
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Sandeep at the BCCI HQ terminated the contract after the end of the 10-year term. ;)
 
Joe Root now has 12402 and goes past Kumar Sangakkara and is 6th all time in most test runs and will need 70 more runs to go past Alastair Cook, to become Englands all time leading run scorer in Test Cricket
 
nish_mate said:
It's India, sweepys maths, logic and senses go for a toss and add to its SRT...

43, 51 same stuff...unees bees ka farak.
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Logic is to back your adopted hero till he is in the reckoning. Once he retires, go back to the usual blabbering, "He has better things to do in life than chasing Sachin's meaningless record", lol 😂
 
Sorry, but Joe Root’s average in SINA countries is the same as Kohlis average in SENA countries, the only factor in which Root is comfortably clear is total runs, for me he is above Kohli by a small Margin, comparison with Tendulkar doesn’t make any Sense.


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Furthermore, Kohli has better performances against the two best bowling lineup of their time.
As I said , Root is ahead of Kohli by a small margin, if Kohli somehow manages to find a good peak of a couple of years, all the difference between them will vanish.

These knocks vs SriLanka, WestIndies is something Kohli can easily replicate of he finds his mojo.

Remember there was a time when Kohli looked head and Shoulders ahead of Root as a test batsman.
 
Root will go down as England's greatest in Test cricket: Ian Bell

Joe Root will go down as England's greatest batter in Tests even if he is not able to break Sachin Tendulkar's gargantuan record of 15,921 runs, reckons his former teammate Ian Bell.

Root went past Sri Lankan legend Kumar Sangakkara recently to move to the sixth spot in the list of highest run-getters in the longest format.

He's played incredibly well in the last 12 months. I don't think he's overthinking too much what's ahead. He's just sort of living in the moment as we are, Bell told PTI in an exclusive interview on the sidelines of Legends League Cricket.

To think that he can even get close to someone like Sachin, a real great of the game, someone that we've all admired growing up, as a hero to not just people and fans in India, but around the world.

To think that Joe could get close is an amazing achievement on his behalf. He'll go down as England's greatest batsman. There's no doubt whether he does get to Sachin or not, said the 42-year-old who played as many as 118 Tests for England.

With 12,402 runs, the 33-year-old Root is 3,519 runs away from breaking Tendulkar's record.

SOURCE: https://www.business-standard.com/c...-in-test-cricket-ian-bell-124092500292_1.html
 
If root plays for another 4 years he will definitely break the record of great Sachin Tendulkar in Test cricket.
 
England batter Joe Root said during a press conference at Multan Cricket Stadium ahead of the 1st Test against Pakistan:

"I think, more than anything, you judge yourself based on how many games you can affect and how many games you can win for the team. The big driver for me is how many times I can contribute to winning games for England. If with that mindset, I am trying to be successful in whatever conditions are in front of me, that is a good enough driver for me. I want to keep enjoying myself and keep playing. I look at enjoying that at the moment."
 
England's vibrant batter Joe Root took a step closer to matching Sachin Tendulkar's elusive record for 1000-plus Test runs in most calendar years.

Root, who has been tipped to go past Sachin's tally in red-ball cricket, returned to the dressing room after crossing 1,000 Test runs in 2024. This was the fifth calendar year when the 33-year-old managed to cross the 1,000-run mark in Test cricket.

Sachin currently sits at the summit with a whopping tally of six calendar years in which he garnered 1000-plus Test runs.

With a tally of five, Root is now level with cricket icons Brian Lara, Matthew Hayden, Jacques Kallis, Ricky Ponting, Kumar Sangakkara and Alastair Cook for scoring 1000-plus Test runs in most calendar years.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
No SC batsman had a stellar record in SENA against SENA until 2001 ish.

The pitches were not homogenised and ODI wickets still had juice in them to aid seam bowlers and were pretty slow

Asian wickets were completely different from these wickets.

Of all the batters, Azhar and Miandad had decent records and that's with very low strike rates of about 68 and 59 respectively.

From 2001 onwards is when SENA pitches got flatter, quicker and with minimal seam movement on offer, allowing more strokeplay.

That's when the SC batters' records started improving significantly.
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That's not true, Sachin had great record in SENA even before 2001. The only place he had an average record was in SA where he averaged 34 in the 90's, even then he scored 2 hundreds. His averages in England, Australia and New Zealand were stellar. SA pitches after 2001 actually got worse. It was actually better in the 90's. Post 2000 we saw more sub 100 scores in SA than it was before. Sachin improved his average there to finish with 46. He had the best average among SC batters before Virat did well there later. If you look at batters who had played at least 10 innings in SA only 3 batters from SC stand out overall, Sachin, Laxman and Virat. None of the other batters even averaged 40. Biggest hole in Dravid's record is that. I never rate him at the same level as Sachin because of his record in SA and Australia.
 
giri26 said:
That's not true, Sachin had great record in SENA even before 2001. The only place he had an average record was in SA where he averaged 34 in the 90's, even then he scored 2 hundreds. His averages in England, Australia and New Zealand were stellar. SA pitches after 2001 actually got worse. It was actually better in the 90's. Post 2000 we saw more sub 100 scores in SA than it was before. Sachin improved his average there to finish with 46. He had the best average among SC batters before Virat did well there later. If you look at batters who had played at least 10 innings in SA only 3 batters from SC stand out overall, Sachin, Laxman and Virat. None of the other batters even averaged 40. Biggest hole in Dravid's record is that. I never rate him at the same level as Sachin because of his record in SA and Australia.
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I was talking about ODI's
 
Can he? I feel Joe Root will beat SRT's record after this series alone playing on these phatta of flatest phatta on the universe wickets

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:uakmal
 
Michael Atherton on Joe Root's chances to surpass Sachin Tendulkar's record:

"He has a chance, obviously.

"We worked out last summer that he will need four years to get there.

"He is 33 now, he will be 34 in December.

"Obviously players are going on a little bit longer than they did before.

"It is unusual to get better after 33, although Graham Gooch did.

"We have seen Jimmy Andrson play till 41 and he is a fast bowler.

"All the advances in nutrition and training allow you to go on a little bit longer.

"I think it comes down to desire.

"As long as that desire and love for the game is not undimmed, he has a great chance."
 
Joe Root said there are “many more runs still to get” after he overhauled Sir Alastair Cook to become England’s all-time leading Test runscorer

Root went past Cook’s mark of 12,472 when he got to 71 on day three of the first Test against Pakistan in Multan.

The 33-year-old carried on and on, registering his 35th Test century and batting through the day for his unbeaten 176, taking England to 492-3 and a deficit of only 64 runs.

“I’m obviously proud, but still feel there’s plenty more left to do,” said Root.

Root’s tireless effort in the heat, allied to 141 not out from Harry Brook, has put England in a strong position in the series opener, despite Pakistan racking up 556 in their first innings.

Only once before have England conceded more runs in the first innings of a match and gone on to win, 130 years ago against Australia in 1894.

“I’m sure I’ll look back at it when I’m finished and be very proud of it, but I think more than anything just the way we played today as a team is what stands out,” said Root.

“We’ve still got an opportunity to win the game, which is really exciting. Hopefully we can kick on tomorrow.”

Root is playing his 147th Test, 12 years after making his England debut in India.

By passing Cook, Root has climbed to fifth on the all-time list of Test runscorers from all nations, behind greats of the game Rahul Dravid, Jacques Kallis, Ricky Ponting and Sachin Tendulkar. Tendulkar tops the list with 15,921, just over 3,000 ahead of Root.

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Root has to keep playing in Pakistan on these flat roads and he is gonna break the record in the next 4-5 series for sure.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Root has to keep playing in Pakistan on these flat roads and he is gonna break the record in the next 4-5 series for sure.
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Yes but then Indian fans will complain. Their already upset that brooks is bradman avg 103 in pakistan.

They ignore the fact that almoat every cricketer on the planet stat pads.

Every cricketer has a favourite team they like to play, bully and butcher into oblivion. If it were for those teams besides Bradman every player in history would avg far far lower then what they ended up averaging.
 
It comes down to motivation. Athers was talking about. Players get demotivated after a while. But Anderson set a gold standard for other aging English players. So he will draw inspiration from him and push for it. He is last of the breed who will play so many Tests. His record may never be broken.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
It comes down to motivation. Athers was talking about. Players get demotivated after a while. But Anderson set a gold standard for other aging English players. So he will draw inspiration from him and push for it. He is last of the breed who will play so many Tests. His record may never be broken.
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Honestly, looking at Root perform again and again. He would be a worthy successor of reaching the top, if and when he does it. It will be a colossal achievement and Bring enormous sense of achievement to a nation bereft of any such milestone in recent history. A nation of 240 million people will finally cheer and own this monumental feat.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Honestly, looking at Root perform again and again. He would be a worthy successor of reaching the top, if and when he does it. It will be a colossal achievement and Bring enormous sense of achievement to a nation bereft of any such milestone in recent history. A nation of 240 million people will finally cheer and own this monumental feat.
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It will be a colossal achievement and Bring enormous sense of achievement to a nation bereft of any such milestone in recent history
 
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Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Honestly, looking at Root perform again and again. He would be a worthy successor of reaching the top, if and when he does it. It will be a colossal achievement and Bring enormous sense of achievement to a nation bereft of any such milestone in recent history. A nation of 240 million people will finally cheer and own this monumental feat.
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It will also bring a billion tears to a nation who controls the ICC 🤣🤣
 
Another 5 tests in Pakistan should do it.
 
Kohli surpassed Sachin's record of most tons in ODI cricket but no where close to him in tests.

Root closing up on Sachin's record of most test hundreds but not even Chanderpaul level ODI batter.

So just imagine the calibre of Sachin having all those records by himself in all formats and that too by playing ATG bowlers for over 3 decades. His records are so big that it is taking multiple modern day players playing in flattest of tracks, with big bats and garbage bowlers to break some of his records in installments.I find it funny when any one compare any contemporary batsman to him.

Imagine if Sachin was an Englishman, how much their media will hype him. An okaish player like Root, who is yet to score a test century in Aust (which SRT achieved as an18 yo) gets so much hype..lol. I still remember how British media once hyped up Michael Vaughan as worlds best batsman in early 2000s just bcoz he had a good season. So it is nothing news for poms to glorify their avg players. I am not saying Root is as bad as Vaughan but Sachin...c'mmon.

There has never been or never will be another batsman of SRT's class, discipline and determination. Unparalleled brilliance.

#FACTS
#WhenRajdeepSpeaks
 
Rajdeep said:
Kohli surpassed Sachin's record of most tons in ODI cricket but no where close to him in tests.

Root closing up on Sachin's record of most test hundreds but not even Chanderpaul level ODI batter.

So just imagine the calibre of Sachin having all those records by himself in all formats and that too by playing ATG bowlers for over 3 decades. His records are so big that it is taking multiple modern day players playing in flattest of tracks, with big bats and garbage bowlers to break some of his records in installments.I find it funny when any one compare any contemporary batsman to him.

Imagine if Sachin was an Englishman, how much their media will hype him. An okaish player like Root, who is yet to score a test century in Aust (which SRT achieved as an18 yo) gets so much hype..lol. I still remember how British media once hyped up Michael Vaughan as worlds best batsman in early 2000s just bcoz he had a good season. So it is nothing news for poms to glorify their avg players. I am not saying Root is as bad as Vaughan but Sachin...c'mmon.

There has never been or never will be another batsman of SRT's class, discipline and determination. Unparalleled brilliance.

#FACTS
#WhenRajdeepSpeaks
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The cope is delicious!
 
@sweep_shot you asked me yesterday in match thread why Indians are not worried about Root breaking Sachin's record....read my above post. When and if (big IF) he breaks Sachin's one of the records, it will not make any difference. I mean Kohli broke his ODI hundred record in last WC Semi finals...did you notice anyone cared?

People who have watched cricket over the years and understand how this sport works, will NEVER rate any modern contemporary players over the great man.

Only British media hyping this up, like they did for Cook few years ago. And our beloved Padosis doing beigani shadi me abdullah diwana wala behavious bcoz their country couldn't produce a batter 20% of his calibre.

#FACTS#2
#TruthBombsAfterTruthBomb
 
mominsaigol said:
Ikr, all fun and games until you lot vanish 2 hrs before a final concludes 🤣🤣.

Imagine having the best team in the world, controlling 90% of the revenue, yet having such a chota dil.

Definition of bullies and cowards. Attack when down yet can't take the heat and start whining 🫠.

I loved when Indian went running with their tails between the legs. Nothing will ever wipe my memory. My only regret is that I wasn't personally in the stadium laughing at everyone leaving, would have brought a sign that said "Get reckt you hooligans"
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We are happy being the world champions in t20 and number one ranked test team, the reason we are controlling Cricket is because we are good enough to do that, something that Pakistan will never become.
 
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jeeteshssaxena said:
its not just about that comment, anyone can easily see that you are a Pakistani at heart and support that team because it’s visible in your hate for India.

The only reason you are supporting Aus is that you don’t want to get ragdolled by Indian fans here because of the status of your Pak team.

Also no Aussies fan will ever call root better than Smith lol, you are no aussie you are a closet Pakistani.
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Smith > Root in prime, not anymore however. Longetivity counts.
 
Sachinistas turning into jelly!

Tendulkar will hopefully witness his record being broken by an Englishman! Another Indian record busted.

Roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!
 
Rooooooooooooot is the new nisaan e Pakistan....like how Lara and Cook was in the past. Bhai pehle Harry Brook ko sambhalo.

:rp
 
Technics 1210 said:
Sachinistas turning into jelly!

Tendulkar will hopefully witness his record being broken by an Englishman! Another Indian record busted.

Roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!
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Ahh yes just like IPL getting binned due to the enormous success of the great invention "The Hundred" by the ECB, as you predicted. :ROFLMAO:
 
Forget about Root. If Harry Brook plays enough Tests against Pakistan he can even break the record of Bradman
 
Technics 1210 said:
Sachinistas turning into jelly!

Tendulkar will hopefully witness his record being broken by an Englishman! Another Indian record busted.

Roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!
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Pakistan is getting obliterated against England and you are talking about personal milestones of some foreign players who have absolutely nothing to do with Pakistan.

This is the loser mentality which is making Pakistan the worst cricket nation in the world.
 
Falconslions said:
Pakistan is getting obliterated against England and you are talking about personal milestones of some foreign players who have absolutely nothing to do with Pakistan.

This is the loser mentality which is making Pakistan the worst cricket nation in the world.
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Accepting reality is not loser mentality. Pakistan cricket is in the doldrums - nothing new.

You worry about your Indian record getting obliterated, cos Pakistan is not your worry, Root is.

Looking forward to Teenda's tweet :)
 
Rajdeep said:
@sweep_shot you asked me yesterday in match thread why Indians are not worried about Root breaking Sachin's record....read my above post. When and if (big IF) he breaks Sachin's one of the records, it will not make any difference. I mean Kohli broke his ODI hundred record in last WC Semi finals...did you notice anyone cared?

People who have watched cricket over the years and understand how this sport works, will NEVER rate any modern contemporary players over the great man.

Only British media hyping this up, like they did for Cook few years ago. And our beloved Padosis doing beigani shadi me abdullah diwana wala behavious bcoz their country couldn't produce a batter 20% of his calibre.

#FACTS#2
#TruthBombsAfterTruthBomb
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IF he does break the Test record for most runs than he will be the best test batsman of all time you cant deny the greatness of Joe Root. Every one has there time and place, if Joe Root does end up doing it, as a cricket fan alone one should learn to respect and appreciate what he achieved if he ends up beating the record
#truth
 
stani_pak said:
IF he does break the Test record for most runs than he will be the best test batsman of all time you cant deny the greatness of Joe Root. Every one has there time and place, if Joe Root does end up doing it, as a cricket fan alone one should learn to respect and appreciate what he achieved if he ends up beating the record
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No that will only mean Root has accumulated most test runs. However, it will not make him the best test batsman of all time. Kumble, Ashwin and Harbhajan has got more test wickets than any Pakistani bowlers. Does that mean all of them were better than any Pakistani bowlers in their entire cricket history? Lets not get silly here.

Beside all of that, If Root surpass Sachin's test runs...he will only break one of his record. Just like Kohli broke his ODI century record. However, no single player can manage all those records alone which was my point and why no modern players can be compared to Tendulkar.

Lets be honest, you know this as well. However accepting it or not is different story
 
Technics 1210 said:
Accepting reality is not loser mentality. Pakistan cricket is in the doldrums - nothing new.

You worry about your Indian record getting obliterated, cos Pakistan is not your worry, Root is.

Looking forward to Teenda's tweet :)
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There is a theory in biology that there are several levels of survival that living organisms resort to continue their existence. 🤓
 
He is in the middle of an amazing streak. That hunger should be an example for other noob test players. He might eventually get there. Records are meant to be broken.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
There is a theory in biology that there are several levels of survival that living organisms resort to continue their existence. 🤓
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I'm sorry but Indians genuinely should not procreation jokes. And no I'm not joking.

Genuinely it comes off as hypocritical considering your the worlds largest population and frankly it's disgusting.

Ig I was wrong about you too. All Indians are the same smh.
 
mominsaigol said:
I'm sorry but Indians genuinely should not procreation jokes. And no I'm not joking.

Genuinely it comes off as hypocritical considering your the worlds largest population and frankly it's disgusting.

Ig I was wrong about you too. All Indians are the same smh.
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My reference here is not about procreation.
 
Rajdeep said:
No that will only mean Root has accumulated most test runs. However, it will not make him the best test batsman of all time. Kumble, Ashwin and Harbhajan has got more test wickets than any Pakistani bowlers. Does that mean all of them were better than any Pakistani bowlers in their entire cricket history? Lets not get silly here.

Beside all of that, If Root surpass Sachin's test runs...he will only break one of his record. Just like Kohli broke his ODI century record. However, no single player can manage all those records alone which was my point and why no modern players can be compared to Tendulkar.

Lets be honest, you know this as well. However accepting it or not is different story
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I dont think they are serious, Root is behind Gavaskar and Dravid in TEST CRICKET, let alone Tendulkar.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I dont think they are serious, Root is behind Gavaskar and Dravid in TEST CRICKET, let alone Tendulkar.
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I am amazed they claim Root is the best test batsman of all time based on runs. Using the same logic, Harbhajan is better than all Pak bowlers in their test history based on number of wickets? Different logic for different players it seems. If this was said for any other Indian players, I probably would have kept quiet. But can't tolerate against Sachin...big no no for us.

Also, they are very serious and its not trolling. Their hatred for Tendulkar is not new and its been going on for generations..Lol. You should check some old debates here when he was an active cricketer.
 
Rajdeep said:
I am amazed they claim Root is the best test batsman of all time based on runs. Using the same logic, Harbhajan is better than all Pak bowlers in their test history based on number of wickets? Different logic for different players it seems. If this was said for any other Indian players, I probably would have kept quiet. But can't tolerate against Sachin...big no no for us.

Also, they are very serious and its not trolling. Their hatred for Tendulkar is not new and its been going on for generations..Lol. You should check some debates here when he was an active cricketer.
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You're precious Sachin would actually get the respect he deserves if you lot gave back respect to other countries.

It's not everyone's fault kei you presume India and every player in it is your father's medan.

Genuinely you want people to adhere to your Big No No for Sachin, then stop trolling non stop and attacking with garbage upon Garbage.

Certain arguments like Sangakara and Steve Smith having a higher avg, Root closing in in runs and having more centuries then Sachin in 135 test games, as Sachin at the same stage didn't have the same no with root having a similar avg, or Lara arguments etc etc are valid .

Good counter arguments like discussing their performances per opponent and per country, Discussing the bowler difficulty, era difficulty etc are very very valid counter arguments and would encourage a good debate and strong points for Sachin.

But no, you invade like Hooligans, just like I've been seeing post 2024 t20 wc, and how I saw the trolling today on said thread with some posters even getting excessively bullied.

Genuinely you'd have tons of respect if you took a deep breathe and looked at yourself in the mirror rather then pointing fingers at others pondering why a so called nice poster ended up hating all of you.
 
Ab Fan said:
Root will have to perform in Australia to stand a chance vs Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting.

In 14-15 tests, he has zero tons in Australia, that's a major blemish and he needs to improve that to be rated in the league of top tier batsman.
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Entire batting line up of Eng has averaged in 30s, including Root, in Ind/Aus/SA in the last 5 years. It's not just Aus issue.

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Even if you go back to start, he has just 4 tons on Aus/Ind/SA in his entire career. Aus/Ind/SA were comfortably the best 3 bowling sides during Root's career. Cook really scored big in Ind/Aus - has 10 tons and no wonder Eng won in Ind and Aus both when Cook was contributing heavily. Cook is vastly under rated by most fans.
 
mominsaigol said:
But no, you invade like Hooligans, just like I've been seeing post 2024 t20 wc, and how I saw the trolling today on said thread with some posters even getting excessively bullied.
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I have not seen anyone here flaunt 2024 wc t20 win, even I consider it only as the beginning and nothing more significant than that.

You claiming we wouldn't have won if we face Australia in KO is trolling when we actually faced them in the same world t20 and threw them apart.
 
Buffet said:
Entire batting line up of Eng has averaged in 30s, including Root, in Ind/Aus/SA in the last 5 years. It's not just Aus issue.

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Even if you go back to start, he has just 4 tons on Aus/Ind/SA in his entire career. Aus/Ind/SA were comfortably the best 3 bowling sides during Root's career. Cook really scored big in Ind/Aus - has 10 tons and no wonder Eng won in Ind and Aus both when Cook was contributing heavily. Cook is vastly under rated by most fans.
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I think Root has been in a purple patch but he hasn't really scored those hard runs as much, the above stats prove that.

Do you think Root stands close to SRT, Lara, Ponting, Dravid, Kallis etc?
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I think Root has been in a purple patch but he hasn't really scored those hard runs as much, the above stats prove that.

Do you think Root stands close to SRT, Lara, Ponting, Dravid, Kallis etc?
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Purple patch should have heavy scoring in Aus, Ind, SA otherwise it's just purple patch in home conditions or scoring heavily against weak bowling sides. Not bad, he is surely capitalizing on them but that does not get you rated very high. I think Root has enough skills to score heavily in Aus, Ind, SA but I have been proven wrong so far.
 
mominsaigol said:
You're precious Sachin would actually get the respect he deserves if you lot gave back respect to other countries
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LOL when I did disrespect any other country? I am talking purely on facts. If anything, I have also dismissed Kohli's achievements of outscoring Sachin's ODI hundreds record and that too in a stage like WC semi final. I know 49 ODI centuries in modern era with big bats and small boundaries is equivalent to 75 back when Sachin played. So I am not disrespecting any country but calling spade a spade. Joe Root hasn't even surpassed him yet for calling out loud.

mominsaigol said:
It's not everyone's fault kei you presume India and every player in it is your father's medan.
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I told you that you are having a bad day :yk

mominsaigol said:
Genuinely you want people to adhere to your Big No No for Sachin, then stop trolling non stop and attacking with garbage upon Garbage.
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When did I troll and what garbage did I post? All my posts in this thread are a detailed description on why modern batter's cant be compared to Sachin.

mominsaigol said:
Certain arguments like Sangakara and Steve Smith having a higher avg, Root closing in in runs and having more centuries then Sachin in 135 test games, as Sachin at the same stage didn't have the same no with root having a similar avg, or Lara arguments etc etc are valid .
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Sanga, Smith, Root...highest avg in this format...highest run in that format - all that is fine and widely respected. However, Sachin has almost all the record possible in both red and white ball cricket. So modern players can break one or couple of his records in conjunction. However for one person to achieve all of that is almost impossible.

mominsaigol said:
But no, you invade like Hooligans, just like I've been seeing post 2024 t20 wc, and how I saw the trolling today on said thread with some posters even getting excessively bullied.
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Again you are getting emotional :yk

When did I behave like hooligan? I was not even present here during 2024 T20 WC and didn't even follow that tourney as was upset with election results in India.

Also, try to take comments from online forum in heart. If someone had said something to you during T20 WC 2024, you will go after entire country? :ROFLMAO:
mominsaigol said:
Genuinely you'd have tons of respect if you took a deep breathe and looked at yourself in the mirror rather then pointing fingers at others pondering why a so called nice poster ended up hating all of you.
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I look into the mirror every day bro and get a reflection back saying - 'When Rajdeep Speaks, you listen and move on'

😉
 
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