Would you swap Imran Khan for Sachin Tendulkar?

[akheR]

Imran Khan's MoM awards frequency in one of the most competitive eras of cricket

And all time Man of the Series awards

He played 28 series, and was Man of the Series in 8 of them (!!!)

 

[Haroon786]

Imran Khan's MoM awards frequency in one of the most competitive eras of cricket

And all time Man of the Series awards

He played 28 series, and was Man of the Series in 8 of them (!!!)

Even Sehwag is ranked higher than SRT, moreover this shows Imran's match winning prowess. :umarakmal

 

[Buffet]

Imran Khan's MoM awards frequency in one of the most competitive eras of cricket

That's consistent with his really great bowling in middle of his career. His bowling was not great in first 7-8 years of his career and then for the next 7-8 years I think he will take the tag of one of the best peak if not the best peak and then he slowly stopped contributing with his bowling in last 5-6 years.

At his peak period of 7-8 years, I think his performance was too good. I would think most of those awards were given in same period.

About comparing MOS series awards in Test. It will be usually dominated by bowlers by a wide margin. Batsman can set up the game but bowlers are the one who will win it. MOS normally goes to winning sides unless some one from losing side was really brilliant.

 

[Statistics375]

53.86 and 44.83


So you mention Sachin's averages saying they aren't extraordinary. Yet when I mention Viv's average then you suddenly change track?

Viv is rated to be one of the best because of the way he played.
Sachin is also one of the best Batsman of all time.

But this thread is not about that.

A bowling average of 22 is as good as a batting average of 50.
And add to that a batting average of 37.

Imran as a cricketer is more valuable than Sachin.

Did Richards face more ATG bowlers or SRT? I would think that SRT faced more ATG bowlers but Richards dominated more.

In second though you are right, most of the ATG fast bowlers of that time were form West Indies and i did not consider the fact that Richards played for the West Indies, but Richards did dominate those he played.

LOL. The fact is he didn't had many lean patches, he had very few lean patches. Even during the so called lean patches, he was outscoring many batsmen around the world.
So, now its his fault that he started at a very early when most of the cricketers were picked after they prove at domestic level. That makes him so so special...

Retiring at 40 is normal, playing at 16 is not.
He did play it and that does in fact give him an advantage over others to aggregate more runs.

 

[Singham]

Retiring at 40 is normal, playing at 16 is not.
He did play it and that does in fact give him an advantage over others to aggregate more runs.

Well,you making it sound like it was sachin 's fault that he was so good to be picked early when others weren't good enough to even tie his shoes. The fact is that he was so good to picked early and performed for so many years makes him that more special. Only a god gifted talent can do that.

 

[Statistics375]

Well,you making it sound like it was sachin 's fault that he was so good to be picked early when others weren't good enough to even tie his shoes. The fact is that he was so good to picked early and performed for so many years makes him that more special. Only a god gifted talent can do that.

No, many cricketers start playing cricket after the age of 16, education being a major reason why some times families do not allow them to play cricket at that age.

 

[Singham]

No, many cricketers start playing cricket after the age of 16, education being a major reason why some times families do not allow them to play cricket at that age.

You know how good is a kid even at the age of 12 or 13. He had the highest score for school kids in inter school matches. He didn't choose cricket as his career at the age of 13. No kid would do that.
Even as a 16 year old boy, he did better than the folks who make their debut at the age of 25 whose physique and mentality is stronger than a 16 year old.

 

[kingusama92]

No to this deal because of Imran's value both on and off the field.

BUT, hell yes to trading any of our batsmen for Sachin. Any.

 

[Statistics375]

You know how good is a kid even at the age of 12 or 13. He had the highest score for school kids in inter school matches. He didn't choose cricket as his career at the age of 13. No kid would do that.
Even as a 16 year old boy, he did better than the folks who make their debut at the age of 25 whose physique and mentality is stronger than a 16 year old.

Sachin was naturally gifted hence young age was not a factor for him, many others are also naturally gifted and would have benefited from the fact that their career started when they were 16, but they only started playing cricket later.

 

[Singham]

Sachin was naturally gifted hence young age was not a factor for him, many others are also naturally gifted and would have benefited from the fact that their career started when they were 16, but they only started playing cricket later.

No naturally gifted player was compared to bradman by bradman himself even after getting fully developed, getting stronger even when they were polished in domestic cricket and getting older. Sachin was compared to bradman as a 18 year old by bradman himself when sachin wasn't physically developed fully and hadn't got any experience in domestic cricket.

 

[silent ischemia]

Tendulkar is the Maradona of Cricket : The God.

So a cocaine addict too. May be. Never knew it.

 

[srh]

Imran provides more value for the buck than Tendulkar so no deal.

Tendulkar:
Better Batsman

Imran Khan:
Better Bowler
Better Captain
Better Role Model

 

[Untouchables_666]

Imran provides more value for the buck than Tendulkar so no deal.

Tendulkar:
Better Batsman

Imran Khan:
Better Bowler
Better Captain
Better Role Model

In a nutshell this is it! I would also say based purely on batting I would have Imran over Tendulkar any day!

 

[Untouchables_666]

So a cocaine addict too. May be. Never knew it.

Well the guy once sold his blood for money so I wont put drug abuse past him!

 

[ads101]

Imran provides more value for the buck than Tendulkar so no deal.

Tendulkar:
Better Batsman

Imran Khan:
Better Bowler
Better Captain
Better Role Model

Tendulkar is a much better role model than Imran. It's not even close in that category.

 

[Singham]

Imran provides more value for the buck than Tendulkar so no deal.

Tendulkar:
Better Batsman

Imran Khan:
Better Bowler
Better Captain
Better Role Model

Nope. Sachin is

Better batsman
Better Role Model

Imran was better captain because he had better players in his team. For example lets look at the bowlers when saeed Anwar scored his 195 against India.

Kumble
Abay kuruvilla
Sunil Joshi
Robin singh
Sachin himself

Only kumble was decent.

When did imran had bowlers like this?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Usain Bold wins 3 medals at Olympics, Phelps does it in 8 events. He is more value and a better Olympian? Its about doing it in style at whatever you do. Tendulkar is arguably the best ever complete batsman while Imran still competes with many for such claims. At none of the two specializations is Imran that far ahead of the rest as Tendulkar has been in batting.

nd thats why ESPN legends of cricket and Wisden both have Tendulkar rated ahead of Imran.

 

[Haroon786]

Discounting subjectivity, someone like Kallis has a higher average than Tendulkar, IK has no such competition.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Discounting subjectivity, someone like Kallis has a higher average than Tendulkar, IK has no such competition.

Has Kallis played 200 tests? Tendulkar averaged 59 in his peak while he had 8k runs. Same with Dravid and Ponting.

 

[mastermind_quad]

Just want to repeat it again that i'll not swap Tendulkar with Bradman or Sobers forget about Imran Khan.

 

[Haroon786]

Just want to repeat it again that I would'nt trade IK with Bradman, Sobers, Sanga forget about Tendu.

 

[Haroon786]

Has Kallis played 200 tests? Tendulkar averaged 59 in his peak while he had 8k runs. Same with Dravid and Ponting.

Miandad averaged 60 in his peak, point stands, Kallis has a better avg, why Sach other than Indian bias?

 

[mastermind_quad]

Just want to repeat it again that I would'nt trade IK with Bradman, Sobers, Sanga forget about Tendu.

Good....This should be the answer for the OP.

 

[Buffet]

Just want to repeat it again that I would'nt trade IK with Bradman, Sobers, Sanga forget about Tendu.

LOL. Sanga in such lists! Sehwag/Sanga etc have bashed Pakistan left and right but that shouldn't be only criterion for rating such players that high.

 

[Singham]

We may have lost Kohinoor diamond, but we have Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. Would not trade with any, I mean any other cricketer in the world.

 

[Singham]

LOL. Sanga in such lists! Sehwag/Sanga etc have bashed Pakistan left and right but that shouldn't be only criterion for rating such players that high.

That just shows Pakistanis rate imran with sanga ...we know how good sanga is..lol.

 

[Haroon786]

LOL. Sanga in such lists! Sehwag/Sanga etc have bashed Pakistan left and right but that shouldn't be only criterion for rating such players that high.

Was only trolling, put it in jest against a post by another poster.

 

[akheR]

Lot of bias all around, no one takes a batsman over a bowling all rounder (match winning abilities in Test matches) unless the batsman is , why do you think was voted the Indian Cricketer of the Century circa 2002 (don't sell me the "SRT was half way through his career " mantra as his career was assessed as it should have in the previous decade and masses think more of ODIs) ?
Because an all rounder, and a fast bowling all rounder at that (India should know the prize of rare commodity), wins you more matches than a good batsman - see what Sir Richard Hadlee did for NZ in the 80s and what Shri Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar Acharya did for India in the 90s (especially away.)

It doesn't deny SRT's talent, as I said the best bat since the 90s and probably only and (and a dozen of others...) would get a consideration ahead of him, but, well, he's a batsman, not a fast bowler, even less a fast bowling all rounder, even less a fast bowling all rounder who has been MoS in our first Test series win ever in India/England and MoS in a 1-1 (3) in WI.

 

[Haroon786]

That just shows Pakistanis rate imran with sanga ...we know how good sanga is..lol.

Is it not jocular, that after Bradman, Sobers, I put sanga in?

Im only trolling.

 

[amax]

That just shows Pakistanis rate imran with sanga ...we know how good sanga is..lol.

BTW off topic how bad he is??

 

[Haroon786]

Even Vindo Kambli has the same average as Tendulkar in tests.

 

[Haroon786]

BTW off topic how bad he is??

Some downgrade him because he has a low 40s avg outside SC IIRC,but he has a higher avg than Tendulkar.

 

[Scrolln]

Even Vindo Kambli has the same average as Tendulkar in tests.

Vinod Kambli has the best average among all SC batsmen who have ever played the game and finished their careers.

Do you rate him as the greatest SC batsman ever?

I wont be surprised if you do actually, since Pakistani's in general don't seem to rate longevity.

 

[akheR]

Even Vindo Kambli has the same average as Tendulkar in tests.

Vinod Kambli would have made Sehwag look like a harmless monk had he played cricket in the 2000s and not a (more competitive) decade earlier, he was the pinnacle of Indian FTBism.
He bullied at a time when only Sidhu/Saleem Malik dominated him, in a whole new way, that was just a trailer of what could have been a destructive career.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/zvgEOSSScBg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Indian management should have kept him for Asia in Tests and try to get over his ODI failures (I think today he might have been played as "Test specialist".)

 

[akheR]

Vinod Kambli has the best average among all SC batsmen who have ever played the game and finished their careers.

Do you rate him as the greatest SC batsman ever?

I wont be surprised if you do actually, since Pakistani's in general don't seem to rate longevity.

Of the 1000-runs SC batsmen club, I'd take him over Tendulkar.
In fact Qasim Umar/ over SRT too.

 

[Haroon786]

Vinod Kambli has the best average among all SC batsmen who have ever played the game and finished their careers.

Do you rate him as the greatest SC batsman ever?

I wont be surprised if you do actually, since Pakistani's in general don't seem to rate longevity.

You're correct we don't rate longevity as highly, but there is a certain parameter where it is respected, but only to a certain extent othereise people would herald Afridi as an odi legend.

I hope you know I was trolling and yes Sach is Asia's finest by a very long way and probably 3rd best ever.

 

[Scrolln]

Of the 1000-runs SC batsmen club, I'd take him over Tendulkar.
In fact Qasim Umar/ over SRT too.

over SRT for me too anyday.

No one can beat that killer smile

 

[Haroon786]

Vinod Kambli would have made Sehwag look like a harmless monk had he played cricket in the 2000s and not a (more competitive) decade earlier, he was the pinnacle of Indian FTBism.
He bullied at a time when only Sidhu/Saleem Malik dominated him, in a whole new way, that was just a trailer of what could have been a destructive career.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/zvgEOSSScBg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Indian management should have kept him for Asia in Tests and try to get over his ODI failures (I think today he might have been played as "Test specialist".)

Enjoyed the vid, thanks.

BTW, you are an excellent poster, really enjoy your stat/atricle posts about Pakistani legends.

 

[silent ischemia]

MOST MOM AWARDS IN TESTS


Player Span Mat Awards
JH Kallis (ICC/SA) 1995-2013 163*23
M Muralitharan (SL) 1992-2010 133 19
Wasim Akram (Pak) 1985-2002 104 17
SK Warne (Aus) 1992-2007 145 17
RT Ponting (Aus) 1995-2012 168 16
KC Sangakkara (SL) 2000-2013 117 15
CEL Ambrose (WI) 1988-2000 98 14
SR Waugh (Aus) 1985-2004 168 14
SR Tendulkar (India)1989-2013 198 14
IT Botham (Eng) 1977-1992 102 12
BC Lara (ICC/WI) 1990-2006 131 12
Imran Khan (Pak)1971-1992 88 11
PA de Silva (SL) 1984-2002 93 11
SM Pollock (SA) 1995-2008 108 11
GC Smith (ICC/SA) 2002-2013 111*11

SRT has 14 MOM awards in 198 games (7%) while IK has 11 in 88 Tests (12.5%). Almost twice

 

[Buffet]

MOST MOM AWARDS IN TESTS


Player Span Mat Awards
JH Kallis (ICC/SA) 1995-2013 163*23
M Muralitharan (SL) 1992-2010 133 19
Wasim Akram (Pak) 1985-2002 104 17
SK Warne (Aus) 1992-2007 145 17
RT Ponting (Aus) 1995-2012 168 16
KC Sangakkara (SL) 2000-2013 117 15
CEL Ambrose (WI) 1988-2000 98 14
SR Waugh (Aus) 1985-2004 168 14
SR Tendulkar (India)1989-2013 198 14
IT Botham (Eng) 1977-1992 102 12
BC Lara (ICC/WI) 1990-2006 131 12
Imran Khan (Pak)1971-1992 88 11
PA de Silva (SL) 1984-2002 93 11
SM Pollock (SA) 1995-2008 108 11
GC Smith (ICC/SA) 2002-2013 111*11

SRT has 14 MOM awards in 198 games (7%) while IK has 11 in 88 Tests (12.5%). Almost twice

Mostly bowlers get MOM in Tests and in ODIs it's other way around. It's the nature of formats which are stacked in favor of one over another. Then there is a small issue of these awards generally going to winning team members. Comparing MOM for a batsman with bowler is wrong in so many ways for one specific format.

To put it in perspective, not many players have played more ODI matches than Wasim and he was probably the best ODI bowler. But list of batsmen having higher number of MOM awards than Wasim is a very long one( I think more than 20), even though most of them played lot less than Wasim. It will very wrong to conclude that all those batsmen were better ODI cricketers than Wasim based on MOM awards. I didn't convert it to ratio here otherwise Wasim may not belong in even top 35-40 cricketers in ODIs if we go by such ratio. I will comfortably put him in Top 10 cricketers in ODIs and I think a vast majority of fans will agree with that.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...es;template=results;type=allround;view=awards

 

[silent ischemia]

Mostly bowlers get MOM in Tests and in ODIs it's other way around. It's the nature of formats which are stacked in favor of one over another. Then there is a small issue of these awards generally going to winning team members.

Comparing MOM for a batsman with bowler is wrong in so many ways for one specific format. To put it in perspective, not many players have played more ODI matches than Wasim and he was probably the best ODI bowler. But list of batsmen having higher number of MOM awards than Wasim is a very long one, even though most of them played lot less than Wasim. I am not going to say that all those batsmen were better ODI cricketer than Wasim based on MOM awards. I didn't adjust it in ratio here but you get the big picture.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...es;template=results;type=allround;view=awards

Ok compare SRTs ratio with Waugh, Kallis, Sangakarra? Why is it still low

 

[Buffet]

Ok compare SRTs ratio with Waugh, Kallis, Sangakarra? Why is it still low

We can surely debate that but it's clear that test format is stacked in favor of bowlers and ODI is stacked in favor of batsmen. That's the normal trend so comparing # of MOM awards for a bowler and a batsmen in one specific format is not very meaningful.

A vast majority of times, MOM awards is given to a member of winning team. Let's look at all three names you put up there closely if we can spot anything.

S. Waugh/Kallis - Both were all rounder so they do bowl. Both of them have won quiet a few MOM awards due to their bowling. Then they played for the two strongest test team in the last 20 years and vast majority, if not all , MOM awards goes to winning side.

There is opposite argument about stronger teams having more players who can perform very well so you are competing for MOM awards but your team has to first win to begin with for you to collect MOM awards. Gap between Aus/SA & Ind was a wide one when it comes to test teams in last 25 years.

Sanga: One answer Murali. If Murali was not there he won't get even half of the MOM awards. Murali was an ATG spinner and mighty effective in Asia. It's not a surprise that Sanga's all MOM awards came in Asia. Credit to Sanga for sure for performing.

I would think SRT would have gotten some more MOM if let's say he had Hadlee or Murali playing for India coinciding with his career but still odds are stacked agaisnt him to win MOM awards in TEST formats due to being a batsman. Reverse is true in ODI. Despite India not being the strongest team in ODI in last 25 years, SRT received too many MOM and lot had to do with the format being friendly to batsmen as opposed to bowlers.

That's why I presented flip side of arguments about Wasim not being even in top 30-40 cricketers in ODI if we use such metrics and clearly that far from true.

 

[silent ischemia]

We can surely debate that but it's clear that test format is stacked in favor of bowlers and ODI is stacked in favor of batsmen. That's the normal trend so comparing # of MOM awards for a bowler and a batsmen in one specific format is not very meaningful.

A vast majority of times, MOM awards is given to a member of winning team. Let's look at all three names you put up there closely if we can spot anything.

S. Waugh/Kallis - Both were all rounder so they do bowl. Both of them have won quiet a few MOM awards due to their bowling. Then they played for the two strongest test team in the last 20 years and vast majority, if not all , MOM awards goes to winning side.

There is opposite argument about stronger teams having more players who can perform very well so you are competing for MOM awards but your team has to first win to begin with for you to collect MOM awards. Gap between Aus/SA & Ind was a wide one when it comes to test teams in last 25 years.

Sanga: One answer Murali. If Murali was not there he won't get even half of the MOM awards. Murali was an ATG spinner and mighty effective in Asia. It's not a surprise that Sanga's all MOM awards came in Asia. Credit to Sanga for sure for performing.

I would think SRT would have gotten some more MOM if let's say he had Hadlee or Murali playing for India coinciding with his career but still odds are stacked agaisnt him to win MOM awards in TEST formats due to being a batsman. Reverse is true in ODI. Despite India not being the strongest team in ODI in last 25 years, SRT received too many MOM and lot had to do with the format being friendly to batsmen as opposed to bowlers.

That's why I presented flip side of arguments about Wasim not being even in top 30-40 cricketers in ODI if we use such metrics and clearly that far from true.

But than Sehwag has 8% 8 MOM in 101 Tests and Dravid 6.8% 11 MOM in 160 odd Tests. Still equal/better than SRT. Are they bigger match winners. And I ve hardle seen Sachin play a VVS Laxman/SR Waugh type of Test innings; under pressure, batting with the tail, shielding them and guiding the team home

 

[Buffet]

But than Sehwag has 8% 8 MOM in 101 Tests and Dravid 6.8% 11 MOM in 160 odd Tests. Still equal/better than SRT. Are they bigger match winners. And I ve hardle seen Sachin play a VVS Laxman/SR Waugh type of Test innings; under pressure, batting with the tail, shielding them and guiding the team home

I was only pointing out general trend. I wasn't making a case for SRT being most impact among players or batsmen. Sehwag is above all batsmen in recent times when it comes to dictating terms and impacting the match. Even on dead pitch, India was able to win games due to Sehwag despite having not so great bowling.

Anyway, Best phase of SRT was in 90's and if India had the team of 00s in 90s , I would have expected SRT to get some more MOM awards. That's why comparing MOM awards even for two batsmen or bowlers are difficult. It's not only a player's contribution but team over all team performance is a factor as well.

 

[Hitman]

As an Indian, I'd never swap Sachin for anyone. Particularly not for someone like him - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...rowing-light-on-a-touchy-subject-1434755.html

 

[Hitman]

Another link - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...k-He-admitted-cheating-cricket-game-1981.html

 

[ForeverIndian]

As an Indian, I'd never swap Sachin for anyone. Particularly not for someone like him - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...rowing-light-on-a-touchy-subject-1434755.html

Another link - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...k-He-admitted-cheating-cricket-game-1981.html

Ouch.

 

[Thivagar]

Imran Khan seems like he has inspired every Pakistani player who played under him. Imran Khan rubs his magical power on to others to bring the best of them. I'd take Imran Khan over Sachin in this matter. Sachin might inspire little indian kids playing street cricket to be a good humble boy, but you don't get Imran Khan like force that boosts moral of the team mates. Skill wise, Sachin's batting probably wins over Imran Khan's all rounder skills.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Hitman, you bump these threads when there is no need and then you say people talk nonsense about SRT.

These threads are nothing but places where fights happen.

Indians won't swap SRT with anyone.
Pakistanis won't swap Imran Khan with anyone.

But to answer the thread question

Thivagar is right.

SRT's batting skills > Imran's allround skills (IMHO)

But Imran Khan's aura, captaincy, the way he developed players - everything adds more value to a team overall.

All rounders are more valuable to a team than ATG batsmen (note: not saying they are necessarily better but more valuable).
All rounders with leadership skills are even valuable.

Imran Khan kind of players won't be swapped for anyone.

Be it SRT, Lara, Viv, etc.

 

[Strike Rate]

As an Indian, I'd never swap Sachin for anyone. Particularly not for someone like him - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...rowing-light-on-a-touchy-subject-1434755.html

Another link - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...k-He-admitted-cheating-cricket-game-1981.html

he admitted it by himself in his book nobody forced him or caught him at least he had the guts to admit it that he tried it in a county match he wasn't caught like sachin red handed in international Test match tampering with the seam of the ball in Port Elizabeth. Sometime we pakistanis and indians go OTT to praise our players like they are perfect or saints

 

[Slog]

From a purely rational perspective

Imran Khan batsman << Tendulkar batsman
Imran Khan bowler >>>>> Tendulkar bowler
Imran Khan captain >>>>> Tendulkar captain

Who in their right minds would swap an all round package like Imran over Tendulkar. If the thread was abt Sobers, Hadlee or even Kapil there would have been a debate. And in no way does this lessen Tendulkar's worth. He has more worth than few of our best batsman combined.

Also very cheap on Hitman's part and it shows desperation more than annything

 

[PowerPlay]

Also very cheap on Hitman's part and it shows desperation more than annything

bumped a 2 year old thread to show the defensive mindset of sachin fans and their desperation to promote their GOD poor attempt by [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

 

[Slog]

bumped a 2 year old thread to show the defensive mindset of sachin fans and their desperation to promote their GOD poor attempt by [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

Its trolling. he prolly thinks he is being smart or funny but it shows entirely why overseas fans are sometimes put off by sachin due to the antics of fans like him

 

[IndianWillow]

bumped a 2 year old thread to show the defensive mindset of sachin fans and their desperation to promote their GOD poor attempt by [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

Fully agree. No need to bump up a two year old thread just to stir up a controversy.

 

[JoniInsafian]

Tendulkar has just played a game and is called God by stupid indians.....

Imran has improved the life of thousands with cancer hospital, university and politics....

On top of that, Imran was the better all-round player in the game that is Tendulkar's whole life....

Imran has charisma, he is handsome, he is well-spoken, he is well-educated, he is generous, he is smart... Tendulkar is just good at hitting a ball....

Tendulkar not even fit to tie Imran's shoe laces.

 

[FreeBird]

Well would you? or for anyone of our other greats

Imran Khan is a better batsman than Tendulkar. Won't swap.

 

[FreeBird]

Tendulkar has just played a game and is called God by stupid indians.....

Imran has improved the life of thousands with cancer hospital, university and politics....

Tendulkar is just good at hitting a ball....

And that too for solely making personal records.

Imran NEVER played for a personal record. He came out to bat to make the TEAM win and not reach a personal milestone - and hence Imran is a better batsman. Tendulkar can make a taweez of his personal record book and hang it around his neck.

 

[JoniInsafian]

And that too for solely making personal records.

Imran NEVER played for a personal record. He came out to bat to make the TEAM win and not reach a personal milestone - and hence Imran is a better batsman. Tendulkar can make a taweez of his personal record book and hang it around his neck.

+1

Tendulkar's name dies with cricinfo, Imran's dies with the blood of the last Pakistani alive.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

lol......

Thanks to Hitman, the ignorant comments start.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Shows your class.

 

[Ocelot]

Tendulkar not even fit to tie Imran's shoe laces.

This is flamebaiting. Don't do this.

Imran Khan can never be replaced; but I can swap any of our legend batsman, including big match-winner Inzi, with Tendulkar.

Skill wise Tendulkar was the better cricketer, but Imran is the greater personality overall.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Shows your class that you elevate a good batsman to the status of god..... Personality and actions in the real world, that's how we judge a man..... But if you love cow, loving spineless sheep is not different.....

Thank you.

 

[JoniInsafian]

Thank you.

Mention not..... Helping neighbors is a good action.....

 

[JoniInsafian]

It's not too late also.... Tendulkar is the most loved man in India... Most famous... Even if he is not as smart or good as Imran, he could still make positive change in life of common Indian who love him... Real positive change... Not just selfish things like being good at cricket... Hope people get something back for so much love.... They deserve it..... Sorry to say, he has not given India anything yet... Just eye powder and entertainment... Useless....

So much love Tendulkar gets.... Only 3 or 4 people in history of world have get.... God give opportunity to special few only.... But what he done good with it? Thinka.

 

[ares1000]

You can only compare like to like. I'd not switch any of our great quicks for him as bowlers win tests but any batsman, yes I would.

 

[ads101]

Both are some of the most influential cricketers ever. Tendulkar inspired a whole batting generation. Imran inspired a fast bowling generation. Both would make all time XIs quite easily too. Even if you have sobers as your "allrounder", it would still be in your best interests to play Imran Khan at 8, as a fast bowler alone he is amongst the greats, and as a batsman he's far ahead the rest of the best fast bowlers. Not to mention the captaincy and leadership skills he could provide. Both have given a lot to charity too. Shouldn't estimate how much Tendulkar does for charity just because he doesn't perhaps do it in the spotlight as much.

Since cricket is mostly a batsman's game, with most teams playing 7 batsmen and 4 bowlers, you could argue that stronger batsmen usually makes for an overall better team than stronger bowlers. As a personality I do favour Tendulkar's over Imran's, no disrespect to Imran, but Tendulkar strikes me as a nicer person and better role model. Also Tendulkar was able to serve India for far more games than Imran (yet not really sacrificing much quality) which is an advantage as he was there to guide many upcoming Indian batsmen for a long time.

If considered objectively, yes I would trade Imran for Tendulkar. The latter I feel just had more impact. I even feel that Imran's combined worth as a fast bowler, captain, batsman was more than Tendulkar's (as Imran's fast bowling was amongst the best, and he could bat), while Tendulkar excelled in mostly one discipline.

So yeah Tendulkar. Of course providing the hypothetical scenario that Tendulkar were Pakistani and Imran were Indian. If that wasn't true and suddenly the opportunity came for Tendulkar to put on the green shirt, and Imran to put on the blue shirt, of course I wouldn't agree with that.

 

[Khaseer]

Never. Imran Khan is the best cricketer asia has produced. Wouldn't swap Wasim for Tendulkar even tbh.

 

[www787]

The question is, why? Indian would turn IK into mediocre bowler and Pakistani would turn SRT into mediocre batsmen. SO NO.

 

[www787]

and to Hitman, calm down bro. every player or team has cheated once in their cricket career.

 

[Bilal7]

Sachin is the best batsman from the subcontinent, without doubt.

However, Imran is the greatest cricketer from the subcontinent, without doubt. With Imran, we got an ATG fast bowler, ATG captain, a good batsman and a huge legacy which inspired several other players.

I would never trade Imran for Sachin, even if you threw Kapil Dev into the mix and any Indian that says they want to hold on to Sachin given the same deal is not being honest with themselves.

 

[Bilal7]

As an Indian, I'd never swap Sachin for anyone. Particularly not for someone like him - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...rowing-light-on-a-touchy-subject-1434755.html

Funny how Sachin was also clearly tampering the ball and the Indians got all touchy touchy when he was rightfully called a cheat. No big deal, most players have tampered the ball in their careers.

 

[FreeBird]

I would never trade Imran for Sachin, even if you threw Kapil Dev into the mix

What Kapil for? To carry drinks?

 

[Bilal7]

But Imran Khan's aura, captaincy, the way he developed players - everything adds more value to a team overall.

All rounders are more valuable to a team than ATG batsmen (note: not saying they are necessarily better but more valuable).
All rounders with leadership skills are even valuable.

Imran Khan kind of players won't be swapped for anyone.

Be it SRT, Lara, Viv, etc.

From the mouth of a Sachin fan. Well said, my friend.

 

[Bilal7]

What Kapil for? To carry drinks?

Well Kapil was a poor man's Imran, in a sense.

 

[FreeBird]

Well Kapil was a poor man's Imran, in a sense.

I can perhaps trade Rao Iftikhar with Kapil. Both have the same action and speed.

 

[Scorpion]

lol Hitman bumping not one but several controversial threads to stir the pot. Hopefully mods are watching and the ban hammer is approaching.

 

[Feroz Rawther]

Well Kapil was a poor man's Imran, in a sense.

no, Kapil was a legendary all rounder. for me on a par with Imran.
I had already stated various reasons thru out this web site for my reasons.

In short Kapil was the better test batsman, better one day bowler, better one day batsman and better fielder to Imran.

Imran led Kapil over test bowling and captaincy. w.r.t test bowling, the gap is not that large as their raw bowl econ and str: rate suggests, for a lot of reasons. ( and let us not take into account the tampering allegations against Imran which were revealed on several occasions by his own fellow players ) .So degrading Kapil is unfair to say the least

 

[silentkiller187]

nope, you can take nasir jamshed tho?

 

[Hitman]

I'm sorry, I was totally drunk. I deserve the abuse. Will try my best not to make a fool out of myself in the future, even when I'm drunk. I'd like to apologize here to everyone.

 

[cricjunkie2]

I am sorry, Imran's success as a bowler came at a time when ball tampering was rampant and there was no technology to catch cheats. Imran as i understand was either a useful batsman or a good bowler at any point in time. He was rarely an allrounder for a good part of his career - if you look at his stats though, it paints the opposite picture.

I think Wasim Akram is the best bowler Pakistan has ever produced. He was a magician, one of the rare bowlers who is worth the money. Not saying Akram did not work the ball, but at least he had enough checks and balances in his era to not easily get away with it.