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Absolutely gutted, held on for so long only to conceded like that šŸ™ˆšŸ™ˆ
 
IAJ said:
This Arsenal team is very poor. They can only dream of PL title with this performance. In second half there was only one team out there.
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We had ten, couldn't have done much more then that 2nd half
 
IAJ said:
What win lol?
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10 seconds too early . Lol

Arsenal parked a double decker bus , it was only a mater of time. Very risky from the manager . Ironically it was their own time wasting which cost them .

Overall still a good point , fortunate but also some good play away to city
 
One of the best performances under pressure

The way MCI celebrated the 2nd goal tells a story in itself
 
KingKhanWC said:
10 seconds too early . Lol

Arsenal parked a double decker bus , if was only a mater of time. Very risky from the manager . Ironically it was their own time wasting which cost them .

Overall still a good point , fortunate but also some good play away to city
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Defence masterclass.
 
Raya, what a goal keeper.

Such a shame we couldn't hold on for another minute.

We played an entire half with ten men against City, so we take this point and move on.
 
One of the best games you will see in a long time, people who are complaining about Arsenal not playing football are only exposing their ignorance.

What do you expect Arsenal to do with 10 men at Etihad? Be naive and try to attack and lose by 3-4 goals?

The same fools who are mocking Arsenal for being defensive and anti- football would be mocking Arsenal for being immature and naive.

This is a huge point for Arsenal. Any Arsenal fan would have taken 4 points of Spurs and City given the circumstances.

Arteta has once again proved what a phenomenal manager he is. Every other team would have folded after the early Haaland goal. The first 20 mins looked like one of these games where City runs rampant and wins by 3-4 goals, but the way Arsenal kept their nerve and their discipline especially after going down to 10 men was mighty impressive.
 
IAJ said:
This Arsenal team is very poor. They can only dream of PL title with this performance. In second half there was only one team out there.
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So Mr. Johan Cruyff, what should have been Arsenalā€™s tactics in the second half with 10 men?

With such pearls of wisdom, I wish you visit these threads more often so that you can enlighten us all with your football knowledge.
 
IMMY69 said:
Raya, what a goal keeper.

Such a shame we couldn't hold on for another minute.

We played an entire half with ten men against City, so we take this point and move on.
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Raya has gone up a notch this season, one of the best GK in the world right now and yet another illustration that Arteta knows more than what his critics say.
 
Had City run riot in the second half, Arteta would have been accused for not managing the game and collapsing under pressure.

This is what hatred and jealously looks like. You know youā€™ve done well when even @Amjid Javed is scared to peddle his toxic agenda.
 
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Playing City away after a massive game in Italy on Thursday which was preceded by Spurs away....

All in all we've done well
 
Fair play to Arsenal, they defended really well and just conceded in the final moments

The fact they kept a City team with a man down quiet in terms of chances created is commendable
 
MenInG said:
Defence masterclass.
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Organised well & did their job until the final moment , which ruined it a little .

City were also poor , couldnā€™t shoot in the corners or cross properly. If KDB was playing im sure city would have won against the 6 back line .

3 easy for Arsenal until they meet Liverpool. A great chance to create strong momentum
 
Have to say Raya has been brilliant, at the time I couldn't quite figure out the signing as I didn't think he was massively ahead of Ramsdale but couldn't have been more wrong, especially this season, he's stepped up a level

Sample size is small but he's been the best this season by some distance
 
IMMY69 said:
They were exhausted and cramping...

We've just been through a string of difficult away games without losing...
Hopefully better days to come
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A point before game would have been good.

Just frustrating to defend well and give a poor goal away.

Trossard in midfielder was a disaster waiting to happen. Nwaneri needs to play vs leicester

We have Leicester, Southampton and Bournemouth next so should be looking at 9 points. Especially beating Southampton who we couldn't beat last they were in PL.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
If this was Sam Alardice setting up Arsenal this way, he'd rightfully be blasted.
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Big SAM would have kept Saka on . Arsenal had no player up the field , only leading to wave after wave . The outlet esp with a player with pace gives you a chance of control & keeping the ball or scoring. Areta took all of these out of play. Raya saved his blushes today .
 
KingKhanWC said:
Big SAM would have kept Saka on . Arsenal had no player up the field , only leading to wave after wave . The outlet esp with a player with pace gives you a chance of control & keeping the ball or scoring. Areta took all of these out of play. Raya saved his blushes today .
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I think that was because we were 2-1 up. Had we gone a goal down then you would have a change in formation.

It almost worked and to come away with a point will do nicely thank you.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Have to say Raya has been brilliant, at the time I couldn't quite figure out the signing as I didn't think he was massively ahead of Ramsdale but couldn't have been more wrong, especially this season, he's stepped up a level

Sample size is small but he's been the best this season by some distance
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He's gone up a level from last season. Yes has been Arsenal's best player so far.

Going forward Arsenal need to show more potency in open play.

Decent start to season with fixtures we had.
 
Mamoon said:
Had City run riot in the second half, Arteta would have been accused for not managing the game and collapsing under pressure.

This is what hatred and jealously looks like. You know youā€™ve done well when even @Amjid Javed is scared to peddle his toxic agenda.
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If you think Arteta is a tactical Genius, then it's best you stick with " Gullee danda" in the streets of Peshawar.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
If you think Arteta is a tactical Genius, then it's best you stick with " Gullee danda" in the streets of Peshawar.
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Look at where Arsenal were when Arteta took over and look where they are now, and he did it while spending less Ā£Ā£Ā£ than City, Chelsea and United in the same period. There is no further evidence required of how good Arteta is.

You are a typical deluded United fan who have no idea what they are talking about it. Carry on though, it is good entertainment.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Big SAM would have kept Saka on . Arsenal had no player up the field , only leading to wave after wave . The outlet esp with a player with pace gives you a chance of control & keeping the ball or scoring. Areta took all of these out of play. Raya saved his blushes today .
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For that to happen, Big Sam would have to be hired by a club that is aiming to win the league. That hasnā€™t happened and never will happen.

Arteta had to take Saka out, it was a tactical decision. The other options were Havertz and Martinelli, and Havertz is Arsenalā€™s only goal threat and he holds the ball well and Martinelli is Arsenalā€™s quickest player and he was needed in the second half as Arsenal parked the bus so that he could counter if the opportunity arose.

Martinelli had a decent game by his standards but he couldnā€™t beat Walker and Stones once in the second half in spite of plenty of opportunities. Arsenal could have nicked a third goal on the counter if he had a brain and some dribbling ability.

The only thing he can do is run with his head down. An awful player who is nowhere near the level that is required considering what Arsenal are competing for.

Like Jesus, Arsenal have outgrown players of his caliber. It is too for him to head for the exit door like Auba, Lacazette, Ramsdale, Tierney etc. who were all shunned by Arteta because they didnā€™t have what it takes and neither does Martinelli.
 
One of the best contests I've seen in PL history among two heavyweights.

City looked unplayable for the first 15 mins and deserved to go in front against Arsenal.

Calafiori's goal is one of the best goals you'll see all season. Stunning goal.

When Saka took that corner, I knew Gabriel had a great chance of scoring another header as soon as he got past Kyle Walker, who was marking him.

Michael Oliver ruined the game and Trossard is an idiot. I hope the latter never starts for Arsenal again. I don't know what he was thinking going for that challenge when he's on a yellow and then to kick the ball away was just so dumb. Prior to this, he lost the ball in an important position when he tried to play in Martinelli on the left flank but came up with a loose pass. We really missed Odegaard.

Trossard's first yellow was a poor decision and again you have to question the consistency of the refereeing. Doku kicked the ball away in the first half but didn't get a yellow card.

I feared the worst in the second half but Arsenal's heart, courage and defensive resilience was amazing. I was gutted we conceded at the end but it was coming, our players were getting fatigued and two of our defenders, Calafiori and Timber, picked up niggles which made the task even harder.

City should be embarrassed for not winning this game against a side with 10 men at home.
 
Martinelli's defensive work rate should be commended. Also got an assist as well. He was my man of the match.
 
Mamoon said:
For that to happen, Big Sam would have to be hired by a club that is aiming to win the league. That hasnā€™t happened and never will happen.

Arteta had to take Saka out, it was a tactical decision. The other options were Havertz and Martinelli, and Havertz is Arsenalā€™s only goal threat and he holds the ball well and Martinelli is Arsenalā€™s quickest player and he was needed in the second half as Arsenal parked the bus so that he could counter if the opportunity arose.

Martinelli had a decent game by his standards but he couldnā€™t beat Walker and Stones once in the second half in spite of plenty of opportunities. Arsenal could have nicked a third goal on the counter if he had a brain and some dribbling ability.

The only thing he can do is run with his head down. An awful player who is nowhere near the level that is required considering what Arsenal are competing for.

Like Jesus, Arsenal have outgrown players of his caliber. It is too for him to head for the exit door like Auba, Lacazette, Ramsdale, Tierney etc. who were all shunned by Arteta because they didnā€™t have what it takes and neither does Martinelli.
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What you need to remember is Arteta likes defensive wingers. Saka and Martinelli both excel in this regard.

Saka may not produce the goals and assists like Salah, Foden and Palmer do but that's mostly because he's been asked to sacrifice some of his game going forward to fulfil his defensive responsibilities.

This is why we have to cut the Brazilian some slack.
 
Mamoon said:
Look at where Arsenal were when Arteta took over and look where they are now, and he did it while spending less Ā£Ā£Ā£ than City, Chelsea and United in the same period. There is no further evidence required of how good Arteta is.

You are a typical deluded United fan who have no idea what they are talking about it. Carry on though, it is good entertainment.
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Sixth season and counting.
 
topspin said:
What you need to remember is Arteta likes defensive wingers. Saka and Martinelli both excel in this regard.

Saka may not produce the goals and assists like Salah, Foden and Palmer do but that's mostly because he's been asked to sacrifice some of his game going forward to fulfil his defensive responsibilites.
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Arteta has tried to replace Martinelli twice. He wanted Mudryk and he wanted Nico Williams. He knows that his attacking output and lack of efficiency is hurting the team.

There is no doubt that he is very close to getting the Ramsdale, Aubameyang, Tierney, Smith Rowe etc. treatment.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Sixth season and counting.
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And counting what?

Arsenal fans are optimistic and proud. This is the best period for the club since in the last 20 years because for the first time in this period, Arsenal have looked like a proper big football club that means business.

You can downplay it all you want, but you would give your leftā€¦..to have United where Arsenal are right now.
 
Mamoon said:
Arteta has tried to replace Martinelli twice. He wanted Mudryk and he wanted Nico Williams. He knows that his attacking output and lack of efficiency is hurting the team.

There is no doubt that he is very close to getting the Ramsdale, Aubameyang, Tierney, Smith Rowe etc. treatment.
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Well Nico Williams is waiting for Barca to sign him. Thank God we never signed Mudryk.

If we're going to upgrade the Brazilian winger, then we should go all out for Musiala, who apparently is reluctant to stay at Bayern.
 
Of course Arteta says no comment when asked about time wasting, I just hope he doesn't complain about others doing it
 
Oh dear a certain šŸ¤” embarrassing himself as usual. 5 years without a trophy and this is the best period on 20 years? More copy, paste nonsense. You could print of these essays on toilet paper and that's where this nonsense belongs.

Acting like a big club? Club was more interesting in "profit" and "balancing books" then acting like a big club in transfer window. No big club goes this long without a trophy and no accountability. Pedalling nonsense as usual

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Raya was main reason Arsenal got a point in 2nd half, so what "tactical genius" playbook is that in šŸ¤”. Ultimately the time wasting tactics, cosy Arsenal the goal šŸ¤”

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Mamoon said:
So Mr. Johan Cruyff, what should have been Arsenalā€™s tactics in the second half with 10 men?

With such pearls of wisdom, I wish you visit these threads more often so that you can enlighten us all with your football knowledge.
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Lol, I obviously touched a few nerves. I have been watching and playing football before you were even born so keep the sarcasm to your self.

Even with 10 men I have never seen a team get so dominated, it was like watching power play in ice hockey. I am sorry but there is no quality in this Arsenal team to win the PL title. The race will be between Liverpool and City this time around.
 
I still believe Arsenal will win the league this season but Arsenal lost 2 points today.

Came back after being 1 nil down, then take the lead, then down to 10 men, only to squander the lead in the dying seconds, keeping a record since 2015 alive.

Such loses (despite being a draw) hurt more than a 3-0 whooping.
 
Mamoon said:
For that to happen, Big Sam would have to be hired by a club that is aiming to win the league. That hasnā€™t happened and never will happen.

Arteta had to take Saka out, it was a tactical decision. The other options were Havertz and Martinelli, and Havertz is Arsenalā€™s only goal threat and he holds the ball well and Martinelli is Arsenalā€™s quickest player and he was needed in the second half as Arsenal parked the bus so that he could counter if the opportunity arose.

Martinelli had a decent game by his standards but he couldnā€™t beat Walker and Stones once in the second half in spite of plenty of opportunities. Arsenal could have nicked a third goal on the counter if he had a brain and some dribbling ability.

The only thing he can do is run with his head down. An awful player who is nowhere near the level that is required considering what Arsenal are competing for.

Like Jesus, Arsenal have outgrown players of his caliber. It is too for him to head for the exit door like Auba, Lacazette, Ramsdale, Tierney etc. who were all shunned by Arteta because they didnā€™t have what it takes and neither does Martinelli.
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A London double decker would have been proud of Artetas parking in the 2nd half . He played a 6-3 not a 5-3-1 which is the usual system for ten men, taking Saka off was to accommodate this . It nearly paid off due to City being clueless at times but constant pressure eventually breaks through . The other system with Saka would have give more control & possession. Arsenal merely touched the ball in cityā€™s half.

In this situation Big Sam would employ better tactics .
 
Mamoon said:
And counting what?

Arsenal fans are optimistic and proud. This is the best period for the club since in the last 20 years because for the first time in this period, Arsenal have looked like a proper big football club that means business.

You can downplay it all you want, but you would give your leftā€¦..to have United where Arsenal are right now.
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Boy ho boy. You reak with delusion. I admit Utd have been a hot mess since fergies departure, but remember this .

Under Jose we finished Runners up to city, but we then won Europa league, carling cup the season after.

Under Oli, we finished 3rd, then runners up the following season.

Even Ten hag mustered two domestic Trophies.

And here's you , bigging up Allardices disciple (Arteta) as if he's some genius for being runners up twice and winning sweet Eff all in 6 seasons. LOL.
 
IAJ said:
Lol, I obviously touched a few nerves. I have been watching and playing football before you were even born so keep the sarcasm to your self.
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And yet, you have no idea what you are talking about which makes it even more hysterical.
IAJ said:
Even with 10 men I have never seen a team get so dominated, it was like watching power play in ice hockey. I am sorry but there is no quality in this Arsenal team to win the PL title. The race will be between Liverpool and City this time around.
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If you havenā€™t watched a team get dominated with 10 men at Etihad with 55 mins of play then you have not watched any football.

As far as the title challenge is concerned, Arsenal and City are joint favorites for the second season running and Arsenal will finish ahead of Liverpool for the third straight season.

Liverpoolā€™s defense is nowhere near Arsenalā€™s and Arteta is better than Slot.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Boy ho boy. You reak with delusion. I admit Utd have been a hot mess since fergies departure, but remember this .

Under Jose we finished Runners up to city, but we then won Europa league, carling cup the season after.

Under Oli, we finished 3rd, then runners up the following season.

Even Ten hag mustered two domestic Trophies.

And here's you , bigging up Allardices disciple (Arteta) as if he's some genius for being runners up twice and winning sweet Eff all in 6 seasons. LOL.
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Jose was sacked 8 years ago. Arsenal were a joke 8 years ago. Pep had just arrived at City. Learn to live in the present or at the very least, in recent times.

Ole never challenged for the title. Never. Finishing runner ups when you are 19 points behind the champions is not a title challenge.

As far as ETH, for the nth time, winning domestic cups when youā€™re not fighting to win the PL means NOTHING.

AW won 3 FA Cups in his last 4 years and he was still driven out of the club because he wasnā€™t fighting for the title.

Arteta won the FA Cup in 2020 but Arsenal were still a hot mess because they were miles away from competing for the league.

ETH would get sacked within two seasons if he doesnā€™t get United challenging for the league title even if he wins more domestic cups.

Every United fan whose head is not buried 100 ft into the ground would swap the last two seasons with Arsenal in spite of the two domestic cups.
 
KingKhanWC said:
A London double decker would have been proud of Artetas parking in the 2nd half . He played a 6-3 not a 5-3-1 which is the usual system for ten men, taking Saka off was to accommodate this . It nearly paid off due to City being clueless at times but constant pressure eventually breaks through . The other system with Saka would have give more control & possession. Arsenal merely touched the ball in cityā€™s half.

In this situation Big Sam would employ better tactics .
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Big Sam can only manage a big club in his dreams so the question of what he would have done doesnā€™t even arise.

Arteta did a great job in the second half. No team in the world would have held City with 10 men at the Etihad for so long.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Raya was main reason Arsenal got a point in 2nd half, so what "tactical genius" playbook is that in šŸ¤”. Ultimately the time wasting tactics, cosy Arsenal the goal šŸ¤”



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Please tell us more about how Arteta is a clueless and how Kompany is a disaster whoā€™ll be sacked in 12 months šŸ¤£
 
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topspin said:
Well Nico Williams is waiting for Barca to sign him. Thank God we never signed Mudryk.

If we're going to upgrade the Brazilian winger, then we should go all out for Musiala, who apparently is reluctant to stay at Bayern.
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Musiala is a pipe dream. It is extremely unlikely to happen but of course he would me a magical signing.
 
Mamoon said:
Jose was sacked 8 years ago. Arsenal were a joke 8 years ago. Pep had just arrived at City. Learn to live in the present or at the very least, in recent times.

Ole never challenged for the title. Never. Finishing runner ups when you are 19 points behind the champions is not a title challenge.

As far as ETH, for the nth time, winning domestic cups when youā€™re not fighting to win the PL means NOTHING.

AW won 3 FA Cups in his last 4 years and he was still driven out of the club because he wasnā€™t fighting for the title.

Arteta won the FA Cup in 2020 but Arsenal were still a hot mess because they were miles away from competing for the league.

ETH would get sacked within two seasons if he doesnā€™t get United challenging for the league title even if he wins more domestic cups.

Every United fan whose head is not buried 100 ft into the ground would swap the last two seasons with Arsenal in spite of the two domestic cups.
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This is delusion of the highest order.

My point is, every time we finished as runners up, we deemed it as a failure, whilst armchair Gooners like you is vindicating runners up as spectacular success. Deep down you know Arteta is not the man to take Arsenal over the line, hence your continuous frustration in your posts.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
This is delusion of the highest order.

My point is, every time we finished as runners up, we deemed it as a failure, whilst armchair Gooners like you is vindicating runners up as spectacular success. Deep down you know Arteta is not the man to take Arsenal over the line, hence your continuous frustration in your posts.
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Arteta is the man to take Arsenal over the line and he will. Iā€™m 100% sure that he will win multiple league titles for Arsenal.

When he does, it will be even sweeter because of the agenda against him. The tears will be hilarious to watch and we will see a lot of excuses such as, City lost hunger, Pep left, this happened, that happened.
 
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@Amjid Javed, @KingKhanWC and others who are claiming that Arteta got lucky because of Raya.

Well, who decided to sign Raya? Was it you? No, it was Arteta. The success of players that you sign is also your success, especially players that were signed based on your intuition and because of whom you had to cop criticism.
 
Mamoon said:
Arteta is the man to take Arsenal over the line and he will. Iā€™m 100% sure that he will win multiple league titles for Arsenal.

When he does, it will be even sweeter because of the agenda against him. The tears will be hilarious to watch and we will see a lot of excuses such as, City lost hunger, Pep left, this happened, that happened.
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For me Arsenal bottled it, when it came to the crunch. Rather than challenging, a more appropriate word is BOTTLED.
 
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Mamoon said:
And yet, you have no idea what you are talking about which makes it even more hysterical.

If you havenā€™t watched a team get dominated with 10 men at Etihad with 55 mins of play then you have not watched any football.

As far as the title challenge is concerned, Arsenal and City are joint favorites for the second season running and Arsenal will finish ahead of Liverpool for the third straight season.

Liverpoolā€™s defense is nowhere near Arsenalā€™s and Arteta is better than Slot.
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Beta, the way City dominated Arsenal was just next level. If it wasn't for your goalie, City would have easily scored 5-6 goals, and we are talking about two top-3 teams here. It's not as if City was playing a newly promoted team lol. There should not be this difference even with 10 men. But let's now just

Btw Leeds United beat City away with 10 min in 2021. What about that?

And lol at Liverpool's defense is nowhere near Arsenal. Football is not only about defending, you have to bee good in all departments. Btw Liverpool has only conceeded 1 goal so far in 5 games and they have the best goal difference in PL. So all of your points are eh pointless.
 
Seems like a certain šŸ¤” can't read and has zero comprehension skills.

Not at any point did I say Arsenal were lucky, so stop making up nonsense to pedal you Arteta cheerleader bhangra.

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I clearly stated that Raya gained Arsenal a point. That's nothing to do with tactics šŸ¤”.

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Oh here we go e mbarrassing yourself. So when a signing is successful it's down to Arteta, yet if someone fails, your usual line is it doesn't matter as plenty of players fail (plenty examples of you using this line). Your usual garbage cop out clause.

Also In regards to Raya, plenty of fans indicated he need to make more match defining saves, something he didn't do last seasons. It's called asking for a player to improve which he has.

But keep embarrassing yourselves with "made up comments" which I never said.

I've exposed your lying here. Stop pedalling the Arteta bhangra šŸ¤”
 
Do people watch football with their eyes closed?

I'm a United fan but Arsenal were EXCELLENT yesterday. 2-1 up at half time, going into the second half away at the Etihad with 10 men. Arsenal were 60 seconds short of producing one of the best defensive performances this league has ever seen.

The reaction from the City players and fans tells all, they celebrated like they won it.
 
Mamoon said:
@Amjid Javed, @KingKhanWC and others who are claiming that Arteta got lucky because of Raya.

Well, who decided to sign Raya? Was it you? No, it was Arteta. The success of players that you sign is also your success, especially players that were signed based on your intuition and because of whom you had to cop criticism.
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Raya made 11 saves in the match . No manager with any sense would want so many saves from his keeper lol

This shows his tactics didnā€™t work as well as he thought. Raya saved Artetas blushes & if city played better esp outside of the box , no keeper can save a point .

Some Arsenal fans sounding as if youā€™ve won the charity shield & fa cup double yesterday . You won a point or lost 2 .
 
IAJ said:
Beta, the way City dominated Arsenal was just next level. If it wasn't for your goalie, City would have easily scored 5-6 goals, and we are talking about two top-3 teams here. It's not as if City was playing a newly promoted team lol. There should not be this difference even with 10 men. But let's now just

Btw Leeds United beat City away with 10 min in 2021. What about that?

And lol at Liverpool's defense is nowhere near Arsenal. Football is not only about defending, you have to bee good in all departments. Btw Liverpool has only conceeded 1 goal so far in 5 games and they have the best goal difference in PL. So all of your points are eh pointless.
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ā€œIf it wasnā€™t for your goalieā€

Why shouldnā€™t it be for our goalie?

Raya is an Arsenal player. His job is to make saves and he did his job. His existence is a big part of why Arsenal have such a strong defense.

You might as well say that if it wasnā€™t for Messi Barcelona would have achieved nothing in the last 15 years
 
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KingKhanWC said:
Raya made 11 saves in the match . No manager with any sense would want so many saves from his keeper lol

This shows his tactics didnā€™t work as well as he thought. Raya saved Artetas blushes & if city played better esp outside of the box , no keeper can save a point .

Some Arsenal fans sounding as if youā€™ve won the charity shield & fa cup double yesterday . You won a point or lost 2 .
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Rayaā€™s job is to make saves. He did his job. With 10 men at Etihad, you keeper is bound to be in the game.

Liverpool with 10 men would lose by 3-4 goals at City.
 
Rodri moaned about the schedule

Well now that he has done his ACL, he can rest up for the rest of the season.

If Arsenal win the league now, watch how people use this is an excuse to ease their pain. Beautiful.
 
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Mamoon said:
Rodri moaned about the schedule

Well now that he has done his ACL, he can rest up for the rest of the season.

If Arsenal win the league now, watch how people use this is an excuse to ease their pain. Beautiful.
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And if Arsenal can't win the league now then they rightfully deserve the title of BOTTLE JOBS.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
Should be one match ban for Arteta šŸ˜‰

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Interestingly, on MOTD they pulled out some figures that actually showed more play action in second half then in any nother game so far..

So I googled it.

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The Numbers Behind Arsenalā€™s ā€˜Time-Wastingā€™ Against Manchester City | Opta Analyst

With 10 men and a 2-1 lead, Arsenal defended doggedly against Man City. But how much did they rely on the dark arts in the second half?
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aboveandbeyond said:
As you said Arteta had built a title challenging team. Therefore, season 2022 - 2023 was a destination of a BOTTLE JOB
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It wasnā€™t. Arsenal lost momentum when Saliba got injured and the backup was Holding who is a championship level defender.

But Arsenal have really good depth now and injury to any key player should not be used as an excuse for surrendering a significant lead.

If Arsenal find themselves top of the league this season by a good margin and donā€™t win, then it will be a bottle job.

Same applies to City, who canā€™t use the Rodri excuse when you have the likes of Kovacic and Gundogan. Anyone who tries to play that card if Arsenal win the league will get slapped by me.

Biggest bottle jobs in recent years have been United in 2011-12 and Liverpool in 2018-19 who had huge leads but couldnā€™t finish the job in spite of not being ravaged by any major injury.
 
Mamoon said:
It wasnā€™t. Arsenal lost momentum when Saliba got injured and the backup was Holding who is a championship level defender.

But Arsenal have really good depth now and injury to any key player should not be used as an excuse for surrendering a significant lead.

If Arsenal find themselves top of the league this season by a good margin and donā€™t win, then it will be a bottle job.

Same applies to City, who canā€™t use the Rodri excuse when you have the likes of Kovacic and Gundogan. Anyone who tries to play that card if Arsenal win the league will get slapped by me.

Biggest bottle jobs in recent years have been United in 2011-12 and Liverpool in 2018-19 who had huge leads but couldnā€™t finish the job in spite of not being ravaged by any major injury.
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Lol you change your tunes as you go along.

The amount of flip flopping you've done is embarrassing.
 
Mamoon said:
ā€œIf it wasnā€™t for your goalieā€

Why shouldnā€™t it be for our goalie?

Raya is an Arsenal player. His job is to make saves and he did his job. His existence is a big part of why Arsenal have such a strong defense.

You might as well say that if it wasnā€™t for Messi Barcelona would have achieved nothing in the last 15 years
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Lol looking at your posts here, I really regret starting these discussions with you. I really thought you knew something about football, but it's my bad that I was wrong. And to top it with comparing a nobody like Raya with Messi is also a new one to me. This is getting from bad to worse. I take all my posts back. Have fun.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Lol you change your tunes as you go along.

The amount of flip flopping you've done is embarrassing.
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Arsenal did bottle an 8 point lead, 15 point swing over 7 game period.

Arteta cheerleader like to do bhangra over him being "generation manager" or "best young manager" etc.. then roll out excuses for failure. Its the manager poor squad management which cost Arsenal titles and trophyless seasons.


Feel free to keep exposing him.
 
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Amjid Javed said:
Arsenal did bottle an 8 point lead, 15 point swing over 7 game period.

Arteta cheerleader like to do bhangra over him being "generation manager" or "best young manager" etc.. then roll out excuses for failure. Its the manager poor squad management which cost Arsenal titles and trophyless seasons.


Feel free to keep exposing him.
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Yep. For me, for arsenal to fulfil their potential, they need to move on from Arteta. He's tactically inept.
 
If a team is 1 man down, then the expectation is their goal will be targeted relentlessly. This is just common sense.

Raya's 10+ saves in that situation is exactly what you want from your keeper.

In my view, Man City were the weaker team, they could not bury 10 man Arsenal in the 2nd half.

Plus my disdain for tap-in-merchant Haaland grows day by day.

Arsenal did play well, just Man City fluked a draw in the end.
 
IAJ said:
Lol looking at your posts here, I really regret starting these discussions with you. I really thought you knew something about football, but it's my bad that I was wrong. And to top it with comparing a nobody like Raya with Messi is also a new one to me. This is getting from bad to worse. I take all my posts back. Have fun.
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That is not even the point that I was making. If you have trouble understanding English thatā€™s not my problem.

You cannot use the ā€œif it wasnā€™t for XYZ playerā€ logic when that player is part of the team and did his job. That is nonsense.

You have already exposed your lack of knowledge by asserting that Arsenal should not have played defensively with 10 men at Etihad.

Had they played out from the back with 10 men and looked to score more goals, City would have picked them apart and won by 2-3 goals and the likes of you would be claiming that Arteta should immaturity and couldnā€™t manage the situation.
 
Technics 1210 said:
If a team is 1 man down, then the expectation is their goal will be targeted relentlessly. This is just common sense.

Raya's 10+ saves in that situation is exactly what you want from your keeper.

In my view, Man City were the weaker team, they could not bury 10 man Arsenal in the 2nd half.

Plus my disdain for tap-in-merchant Haaland grows day by day.

Arsenal did play well, just Man City fluked a draw in the end.
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I agree.

The funniest part of the match was Cityā€™s players inability to hit the target from outside the box. Their shots went everywhere except the goal.

Arsenal are gutted because they were a second away from a huge win, but City should be even more upset because they dropped points at home plus they couldnā€™t take advantage of having an additional man for almost 60 mins of play.
 
Mamoon said:
That is not even the point that I was making. If you have trouble understanding English thatā€™s not my problem.

You cannot use the ā€œif it wasnā€™t for XYZ playerā€ logic when that player is part of the team and did his job. That is nonsense.

You have already exposed your lack of knowledge by asserting that Arsenal should not have played defensively with 10 men at Etihad.

Had they played out from the back with 10 men and looked to score more goals, City would have picked them apart and won by 2-3 goals and the likes of you would be claiming that Arteta should immaturity and couldnā€™t manage the situation.
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Of course you can use that XYZ player logic when a single player stands out from rest of the team. That is common sense.

I like how you keep talking about 10-men thing and I know exactly what I am doing here. No quality in this Arsenal team, not a title contender. Eeven a certain Norwegian star will not help you get the title. Never seen such a poor 10-men team. Even Leeds with 10 men won against City only 3 years ago. Do you really get what I am typing here, you english professor? Even Leeds won against city at Etihad with 10 men...lol..
 
Technics 1210 said:
If a team is 1 man down, then the expectation is their goal will be targeted relentlessly. This is just common sense.

Raya's 10+ saves in that situation is exactly what you want from your keeper.

In my view, Man City were the weaker team, they could not bury 10 man Arsenal in the 2nd half.

Plus my disdain for tap-in-merchant Haaland grows day by day.

Arsenal did play well, just Man City fluked a draw in the end.
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Of course bro, that is common sense. My youngest brother is a Arsenal fan since early 90s and we love teasing him and in our eyes it is still 'boring boring Arsenal' lol. And then I came here and made a comment on how poor Arsenal is and it was only one team in second half. And Mamoon started insulting me, so now he will have to listen to how Leeds defeated City with 10 men while Arsenal was lucky to avoid defeat.
 
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