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MK7Z said:
Odegaard is a player you use your eyes with not stats. Not sure why you feel the need to make comments about his hair?

He is a fantastic fantastic player. Anyone who thinks otherwise cos he hasn't won a trophy shouldn't be questioning someone else ball knowledge. I am not going to take sides in these petty arguments but I wont take any Odegaard slander either.

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Forget the trophies.

His record in CL and at international level is embarrassing.

Seen plenty of better midfielders during Emirates era and Highbury.
 
MK7Z said:
Odegaard is a player you use your eyes with not stats. Not sure why you feel the need to make comments about his hair?

He is a fantastic fantastic player. Anyone who thinks otherwise cos he hasn't won a trophy shouldn't be questioning someone else ball knowledge. I am not going to take sides in these petty arguments but I wont take any Odegaard slander either.

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Your eyes should tell you this guy isn't elite, nor does he make a difference when it matters when it comes to titles, Europe or international level.

It's all good looking fancy on the ball with nothing to show at end of it.

1 goal and 1 assist in the last 17 euro / WC qualifiers.

CL stats are just as abysmal

No one cares about big changes created, XG, fist pumps and waves at crowds or selfies.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Your eyes should tell you this guy isn't elite, nor does he make a difference when it matters when it comes to titles, Europe or international level.

It's all good looking fancy on the ball with nothing to show at end of it.

1 goal and 1 assist in the last 17 euro / WC qualifiers.

CL stats are just as abysmal

No one cares about big changes created, XG, fist pumps and waves at crowds or selfies.
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Yes cos that's all he does right? I am not even going to bother discussing further cos this is literally the definition of BLIND hatred.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Arsenal have the same problem as Pakistan cricket - mindset.

Get the mindset right and any opponent can be brushed aside, which is why after tonight's game, I am even more convinced that Arsenal will win the league this season.
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Yep Pakistan and Arsenal fans recently so use not winning stuff, the mindset of mediocrity means anything above average so amazing, world class.

Imam or saim get a 100 vs Zimbabwe they are next Anwar, world class

Oddegard is world class
Havertz is world class
Arteta is best young manager in world.

This is the yardstick these days for average players, managers and teams..
 
Amjid Javed said:
Yep Pakistan and Arsenal fans recently so use not winning stuff, the mindset of mediocrity means anything above average so amazing, world class.

Imam or saim get a 100 vs Zimbabwe they are next Anwar, world class

Oddegard is world class
Havertz is world class
Arteta is best young manager in world.

This is the yardstick these days for average players, managers and teams..
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If Odeegard is an average player I am interested to know which club team around the world you think he does not get into?

Before you start misquoting me, I am not saying he gets into any club team. I am interested to know which club team you think would not have Odeegard in their team.
 
You continue to embarrass yourself but I suppose you are used to it now.

Odegaard walks into every team in the world. He is an elite playmaker, and the fact that he is only 25 makes him even more special. He is entering his prime now, and Arsenal are incredibly lucky to have him.

He is in the same league as some of the greatest players to have played for Arsenal in the last 30 years. Winning trophies is the responsibility of the team not an individual.

Odegaard, Cesc, RVP and Alexis are the best Arsenal players (excluding defenders like Saliba) of the post 2006 era. Edu signing him for only £30m is one of the best pieces of business done by Arsenal in this millennium, because if you put him on the market today, plenty of clubs would be willing to pay upwards of £100m for him.
 
“Your eyes should tell you this guy isn't elite”

If you watch Odegaard play and your eyes tell you that he is not a brilliant footballer, it is time for your eyes to watch another sport because football isn’t for you.

“Seen plenty of better midfielders during Emirates era”

Apart from Cesc and Cazorla, no Arsenal midfielder of the Emirates era is anywhere near him. Ozil in Arsenal colors was clearly an inferior player.
 
MK7Z said:
Yes cos that's all he does right? I am not even going to bother discussing further cos this is literally the definition of BLIND hatred.
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Nothing to do with hatred, he's a decent player at best.

Nowhere near elite or world class level.

His performances in CL have been mediocre at best. You want to see what an elite young midfielder does at this club in CL go watch wilshire vs Barca

Or cesc vs Ac Milan (San siro), vs Real Madrid or even Juve. While at the club.

Players that actually made a difference in big games.

I see you have zero response for awful international record.

Where was captain at eithad last season? Where was he in CL vs Bayern?

If your a so called elite player, you make a difference.

To many of this fan base over hype players in this squad.

Saka and saliba are the closest Arsenal have to elite / World class players. Ultimately you have to add trophies that you help win to that. Even saliba has said that about himself.

Oddegard is no better than cesc, wilshire, rosicky, cazolra etc..
 
Amjid Javed said:
Nothing to do with hatred, he's a decent player at best.

Nowhere near elite or world class level.

His performances in CL have been mediocre at best. You want to see what an elite young midfielder does at this club in CL go watch wilshire vs Barca

Or cesc vs Ac Milan (San siro), vs Real Madrid or even Juve. While at the club.

Players that actually made a difference in big games.

I see you have zero response for awful international record.

Where was captain at eithad last season? Where was he in CL vs Bayern?

If your a so called elite player, you make a difference.

To many of this fan base over hype players in this squad.

Saka and saliba are the closest Arsenal have to elite / World class players. Ultimately you have to add trophies that you help win to that. Even saliba has said that about himself.

Oddegard is no better than cesc, wilshire, rosicky, cazolra etc..
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I couldn't give a toss about his international record tbh

Ok fine he is decent. SEll him and tell me Who would you bring in to replace him?
 
“Decent player at best”

“Not better than Wilshere, Rosicky”

My my my my my my :klopp
 
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MK7Z said:
If Odeegard is an average player I am interested to know which club team around the world you think he does not get into?

Before you start misquoting me, I am not saying he gets into any club team. I am interested to know which club team you think would not have Odeegard in their team.
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He might get into a lot of clubs but he wouldn't be getting into Man city's, Bayern or Real Madrids starting 11s.

If he was elite, he would make a difference in big games, but he doesn't.

Let's stop acting like he's some sort of world class player. He's not, he's poor international and CL out put is proof of that.

The PL alone is not a yard stick of being an elite player.
 
MK7Z said:
I couldn't give a toss about his international record tbh

Ok fine he is decent. SEll him and tell me Who would you bring in to replace him?
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Doesn't matter whether you care about international player or not.

If your only perform domestically, your poor in continental cup competitions and at international level you are NOT elite

By your logic you only have to perform domestically to be a proven player? What exactly then makes PL the so called gold standard. Its just typical short sightedness.

This goes for any player in any league and not just football.

Same applies in cricket, boxing etc..
 
Odegaard is a top player but certianly not elite and will not walk into any team.

He has no more 10 assists in a season ever(last season). 8 goals added to this was very good. 22/23 season he scored 15 and 7 assists, not bad but not elite.

Elite is KDB as a mid playmaker.

He's still young enough to reach elite level but Arsenal need to careful relying on him alone to be the play maker.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Odegaard is a top player but certianly not elite and will not walk into any team.

He has no more 10 assists in a season ever(last season). 8 goals added to this was very good. 22/23 season he scored 15 and 7 assists, not bad but not elite.

Elite is KDB as a mid playmaker.

He's still young enough to reach elite level but Arsenal need to careful relying on him alone to be the play maker.
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Well summarised.

Can he improve and become elite? Possibly

Same goes for can saka and saliba becoming world class, both aren't that far off it.

Sadly this fan base dismiss European club competition, international. performances like they don't matter.

World class / elite is when you perform against your opponents at every level.

Example salah is world class because he's performed in PL, Europe and in Afcons (international level)

Most of this fan base are so starved of trophies and real elite players they over hype anything half decent (captain hair flicks)
 
MK7Z said:
Odegaard is a player you use your eyes with not stats. Not sure why you feel the need to make comments about his hair?

He is a fantastic fantastic player. Anyone who thinks otherwise cos he hasn't won a trophy shouldn't be questioning someone else ball knowledge. I am not going to take sides in these petty arguments but I wont take any Odegaard slander either.

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Agree. There are certain players who have the tendency to make others around him look better. You feel the full force of effect when these players are not playing. And Odegaard is definitely one of them.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Odegaard is a top player but certianly not elite and will not walk into any team.

He has no more 10 assists in a season ever(last season). 8 goals added to this was very good. 22/23 season he scored 15 and 7 assists, not bad but not elite.

Elite is KDB as a mid playmaker.

He's still young enough to reach elite level but Arsenal need to careful relying on him alone to be the play maker.
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I Reckon if Odegaard had prime Bernardo, Gindogan, Rodri around him, he would not be far off KDB level
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Agree. There are certain players who have the tendency to make others around him look better. You feel the full force of effect when these players are not playing. And Odegaard is definitely one of them.
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You can make other players around you look better or be a so called main cog in a system, you still have to personally step up a level.

The fact a certain 🤡 has mentioned Rodri, Bergkamp, iniesta and Zidane and made silly comparisons shows how deluded some fans are.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Well summarised.

Can he improve and become elite? Possibly

Same goes for can saka and saliba becoming world class, both aren't that far off it.

Sadly this fan base dismiss European club competition, international. performances like they don't matter.

World class / elite is when you perform against your opponents at every level.

Example salah is world class because he's performed in PL, Europe and in Afcons (international level)

Most of this fan base are so starved of trophies and real elite players they over hype anything half decent (captain hair flicks)
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Imo Saka will no doubt be world class, the kid is a star. As an LFC fan, if I could choose one player to replace Salah it would be Saka but of course this will never happen.

I think Odegaard has a lot of pressure on him now esp as he is the only playmaker. If he doesnt deliver, the team will create far less chances. The pressure wont help him. I dont watch Arsenal as much as the fans of course but the matches Ive seen sometimes his passes are avg and sometimes brilliant.

For this young lad to become elite imo he needs an elite striker to link with. Havertz simply isnt even a great player let alone elite.

Also will his end his career at Arsenal ? I can see the likes of Bayern coming in for him sooner or later. He will go if Arsenal dont start winning big trophies, having PL and CL on your CV is what every player dreams of.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
I Reckon if Odegaard had prime Bernardo, Gindogan, Rodri around him, he would not be far off KDB level
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Agree, he passes to Rice....who side passes it back to Zinchenko :)

But its a very good point. Odegaard is a creative player, he needs others around him who can link, move and help give him space to play these through balls. He's also not really linked up well with Haaland at Int level.

He is still Arsenals most important player behind Saka imo.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Well summarised.

Can he improve and become elite? Possibly

Same goes for can saka and saliba becoming world class, both aren't that far off it.

Sadly this fan base dismiss European club competition, international. performances like they don't matter.

World class / elite is when you perform against your opponents at every level.

Example salah is world class because he's performed in PL, Europe and in Afcons (international level)

Most of this fan base are so starved of trophies and real elite players they over hype anything half decent (captain hair flicks)
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So wait hold on. Bayern fair enough as i rate Musiala. Real Madrid you say? Who would you start out of the Real Madrid team ahead of him in his position. Jude? fair enough but which other of their midfielders? Camavinga who was playing FB. Amazing talent tbh. So who else out of the Madrid midfield you start ahead of Odegaard? 60 year old Modric?

I am talking about present not the past.

Man City is a bizzare one to say. You are going by KDB past glories. He is not the same KDB anymore and does not start 5 games in a row. This version of KDB is non existent therefore to say he does not start for Man City again is an interesting opinion.

For someone who is only decent to not be able to get into 3 teams in your opinion is just a weird opinion.

At no point did i dismiss European football. I said i dont care about international football.
I mean i asked who would you buy to replace him, Cos obviously he is not doing it for you and is not elite so wont excel us to the next level. So tell me who in world football would you replace Odegaard with at Arsenal who is better than Odegaard. Simple question.

Name the player who dominates Man City, Bayern, Real Madrid and balls out at international level who we should buy and who doesn't flick his hair cos for some odd reason that seems to be an attribute that is important to you as you mention it in every discussion about him.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Imo Saka will no doubt be world class, the kid is a star. As an LFC fan, if I could choose one player to replace Salah it would be Saka but of course this will never happen.

I think Odegaard has a lot of pressure on him now esp as he is the only playmaker. If he doesnt deliver, the team will create far less chances. The pressure wont help him. I dont watch Arsenal as much as the fans of course but the matches Ive seen sometimes his passes are avg and sometimes brilliant.

For this young lad to become elite imo he needs an elite striker to link with. Havertz simply isnt even a great player let alone elite.

Also will his end his career at Arsenal ? I can see the likes of Bayern coming in for him sooner or later. He will go if Arsenal dont start winning big trophies, having PL and CL on your CV is what every player dreams of.
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Why would Bayern buy him? He wouldn't get into their team if you ask " cErtAin fAnS in tHis fAnBasE:sleep:"
 
MK7Z said:
So wait hold on. Bayern fair enough as i rate Musiala. Real Madrid you say? Who would you start out of the Real Madrid team ahead of him in his position. Jude? fair enough but which other of their midfielders? Camavinga who was playing FB. Amazing talent tbh. So who else out of the Madrid midfield you start ahead of Odegaard? 60 year old Modric?

I am talking about present not the past.

Man City is a bizzare one to say. You are going by KDB past glories. He is not the same KDB anymore and does not start 5 games in a row. This version of KDB is non existent therefore to say he does not start for Man City again is an interesting opinion.

For someone who is only decent to not be able to get into 3 teams in your opinion is just a weird opinion.

At no point did i dismiss European football. I said i dont care about international football.
I mean i asked who would you buy to replace him, Cos obviously he is not doing it for you and is not elite so wont excel us to the next level. So tell me who in world football would you replace Odegaard with at Arsenal who is better than Odegaard. Simple question.

Name the player who dominates Man City, Bayern, Real Madrid and balls out at international level who we should buy and who doesn't flick his hair cos for some odd reason that seems to be an attribute that is important to you as you mention it in every discussion about him.
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Yep he ain't getting into bayern team so that's good you have seen sense there.

At Madrid he ain't getting in ahead of Bellingham. Camavingha was playing full back due to injuries they had at full back previously. This season Anchelloti has used camavinga, valverdi, touchemeni all in midfield at different times. Their luxury attacker Guler isn't getting much game time, so why would then need oddegard? If they wanted him that much they wouldn't have let him go.

As far as City goes KDB was fit for half a season last year and ultimately came back was reason City won the league. He made more impact in half a season the out captain did all season. Also Pep knows KDB won't be here forever thats why they wanted paqueta in the summer, also looked at dani olmo, wirtz and Musiala. City made enquiries on all these players. They are also looking at khudus as well.

I watched Arsenal since 1987 and current captain is nowhere near an elite level to players ive seen at this club

To be elite now you have to take selfish and fist pump the crowd 🤦‍♂️
 
Amjid Javed said:
Bayern don't spend that sort of money, so not sure where your get 100M from?
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That's around how much he would cost. So the only reason they would buy him for his Valued price would be to start.

How much did Bayern pay for Kane?
 
MK7Z said:
That's around how much he would cost. So the only reason they would buy him for his Valued price would be to start.

How much did Bayern pay for Kane?
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Bayern paid 95M Euros, they are more likely to go and try and sign players from other German clubs then splash 100M on a non elite midfielder


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This thread has gone pear shaped again.
AJ has gone all rogue, closet spurs fan, anti everything that is current Arsenal again :(
 
IMMY69 said:
This thread has gone pear shaped again.
AJ has gone all rogue, closet spurs fan, anti everything that is current Arsenal again :(
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I normally stay out of it tbh, but like I said i cant stay quiet when it comes to Odegaard slander.
 
MK7Z said:
so they do spend that sort of money?
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The most they paid for a midfielder is 51M euros

So your essentially looking at double that for a player who would be back up to Musiala.

Bayern could get wirtz or other players in German league way cheaper
 
Amjid Javed said:
The most they paid for a midfielder is 51M euros

So your essentially looking at double that for a player who would be back up to Musiala.

Bayern could get wirtz or other players in German league way cheaper
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What if the rumours are true and Musiala ends up at City?

Suddenly he is starting for the mighty Bayern. Not bad for a decent player ;)
 
Imagine being deluded enough to think that Odegaard will not start at Bayern 🤡
 
IMMY69 said:
This thread has gone pear shaped again.
AJ has gone all rogue, closet spurs fan, anti everything that is current Arsenal again :(
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Not really, it's good healthy debate

@MK7Z thinks oddegard is elite and i dont.

he's improved since hrs joined club. At Same time he's not in top bracket midfielders. Put some people get offended by that

Players can improve, same time they don't need to be overhyped to what they aren't currently
 
MK7Z said:
What if the rumours are true and Musiala ends up at City?

Suddenly he is starting for the mighty Bayern. Not bad for a decent player ;)
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If he leaves then clearly this process your all backing has failed, why else would are captain or saka or saliba leave? Only reason players are going If no trophies or titles.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Not really, it's good healthy debate

@MK7Z thinks oddegard is elite and i dont.

he's improved since hrs joined club. At Same time he's not in top bracket midfielders. Put some people get offended by that

Players can improve, same time they don't need to be overhyped to what they aren't currently
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I don't recall calling him elite lol. I only took offence to the Odegaard slander :ROFLMAO:
 
Mamoon said:
Imagine being deluded enough to think that Odegaard will not start at Bayern 🤡
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You have to realise most managers only prefer one attacking, playmaker, no10 type player(in midfield). The other is usually a no.6 and the 3rd is often a winger type or another defensive mid. Odegaard is a top player but will not start before brother Jamal. 👳‍♂️
 
I would like Liverpool to buy Arda Güler. He's very young but more talented than Odegaard, any LFC midfielder too! Arsenal should also be in the market for him, you will finally have another magician like Ozil in your team?

ps.
Tune in at 8pm to watch the two greatest European clubs in history go toe to toe tonight at Anfield. :salah

Disclaimer: we will prob lose again.
 
KingKhanWC said:


ps.
Tune in at 8pm to watch the two greatest European clubs in history go toe to toe tonight at Anfield. :salah

Disclaimer: we will prob lose again.
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AC Milan already played and won yesterday didn't they?
 
KingKhanWC said:
I would like Liverpool to buy Arda Güler. He's very young but more talented than Odegaard, any LFC midfielder too! Arsenal should also be in the market for him, you will finally have another magician like Ozil in your team?

ps.
Tune in at 8pm to watch the two greatest European clubs in history go toe to toe tonight at Anfield. :salah

Disclaimer: we will prob lose again.
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Who told you that Liverpool is one of the two greatest European clubs?
 
Imagine being this delude

- "it's in the bag"
- "Arteta will win 2 out of next 3 titles"
- "havertz is world class"
- "Liverpool aren't a threat to Arsenal"
- "oddegard is elite like Rodri, Bergkamp, iniesta, zidane"

Then back tracking and crying about injuries, referees and its a blip and throwing the towel in not even half way through the season.

World class zero ball knowledge on display.

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KingKhanWC said:
I would like Liverpool to buy Arda Güler. He's very young but more talented than Odegaard, any LFC midfielder too! Arsenal should also be in the market for him, you will finally have another magician like Ozil in your team?
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If you bid for him, he will be yet another player who rejected Liverpool. Also, there is no doubt he is a top talent, there is no evidence that he is more talented than Odegaard.
 
KingKhanWC said:
You have to realise most managers only prefer one attacking, playmaker, no10 type player(in midfield). The other is usually a no.6 and the 3rd is often a winger type or another defensive mid. Odegaard is a top player but will not start before brother Jamal. 👳‍♂️
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If Bayern had Odegaard, they would play him as number 10 and Musiala will be on the LW, he has played there numerous times and is equally good in that position.

There is no way a brilliant player like Odegaard, who mops the floor with all Liverpool midfielders put together, will be benched by Bayern.
 
🤣🤣 oh dear, seems like delusion is getting worse. Why would Bayern want a player that dissapears in crucial games and has been mediocre in CL?

What next bayern want havertz to replace kane? 🤣🤡

Real Madrid want Arteta?

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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Amjid Javed said:
Not really, it's good healthy debate

@MK7Z thinks oddegard is elite and i dont.

he's improved since hrs joined club. At Same time he's not in top bracket midfielders. Put some people get offended by that

Players can improve, same time they don't need to be overhyped to what they aren't currently
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I think Oddegard is brilliant for us.
He's getting better and better with each season and has age on his side and could go on to become an absolute monster in the midfield...
 
Mamoon said:
If Bayern had Odegaard, they would play him as number 10 and Musiala will be on the LW, he has played there numerous times and is equally good in that position.

There is no way a brilliant player like Odegaard, who mops the floor with all Liverpool midfielders put together, will be benched by Bayern.
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Nah. They signed olise to play left wing. With Sane as his back up.
 
Seems like someone watches footy with their eyes closed, clueless as usual.

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Mamoon said:
Olise is a RW. Odegaard slots into the Bayern team with his eyes closed. In fact, he slots into any team in the world.
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Look i rate Odegaard. But there's levels. Musiala in the next decade or so will be a incredible talent the way his career path is projecting. And there's talks, Florian wirtz maybe heading to Munich. Another outstanding talent.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Look i rate Odegaard. But there's levels. Musiala in the next decade or so will be an incredible talent the way his career path is projecting. And there's talks, Florian wirtz maybe heading to Munich. Another outstanding talent.
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Odegaard and Musiala can easily play on the same team. Odegaard and Wirtz are players of similar potential.

He is one of the best creative midfielders in the world and anyone who think he is not world class/elite is a complete fool.
 
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Elite and world class player that ghosts in CL and international level 🤣🤣🤦‍♂️

Then we have world class havertz who is a flat track bully

World best young manager, but but he's having a blip and referees and injuries are against him..
 
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Look i rate Odegaard. But there's levels. Musiala in the next decade or so will be a incredible talent the way his career path is projecting. And there's talks, Florian wirtz maybe heading to Munich. Another outstanding talent.
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Exactly why would Bayern splash out 80-100M (a price tag Arsenal would want) on a player that doesn't step up in big games and has been woeful in CL. The expectation at Bayern is completely different level to Arsenal.

Bayern will usually just go and take the best talents from other German clubs, rather than risk huge fee on a non-elite player.

If certain fans had there way they would have statues outside of Emirates of Arteta, havertz, oddegard, Zinchenko etc.. this is how clueless certain fans are, all because they have been starved of proper success in last 5 years
 
Amjid Javed said:
Exactly why would Bayern splash out 80-100M (a price tag Arsenal would want) on a player that doesn't step up in big games and has been woeful in CL. The expectation at Bayern is completely different level to Arsenal.

Bayern will usually just go and take the best talents from other German clubs, rather than risk huge fee on a non-elite player.

If certain fans had there way they would have statues outside of Emirates of Arteta, havertz, oddegard, Zinchenko etc.. this is how clueless certain fans are, all because they have been starved of proper success in last 5 years
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Started of success in the last 5 years? I didn’t know Arsenal were win the league before this 5 year period.

The fact is that Arsenal have been starved of success for 20 years and it is Arteta who has revived Arsenal as a major force, capable of competing for the league. Something that neither Wenger could in the second half of his career and nor Emery.

Arteta is the best thing to have happened to Arsenal in the last 20 years and post 2022 is the best period for the club since 2006.

Arteta is the reason Arsenal fans are dreaming of winning the league again and are not celebrating top 4 like a trophy.
 
😴😴 4 trophyless seaaons in a row and you've thrown towel in this season already

But but the referees don't like mikel and cheating

But but its not fair our players have got injured

But but the fan base is happy with not winning anything

🤡🤡

What a revival 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Oh lets celebrate progress and not winning anything 🤡🤡

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🤣🤡 you've thrown towel in and written off this season, yet you come out with bakwas statements like this

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Gabriel scores again in a London Derby, he's enjoys these games

1-0
 
9 goals in London derby's

3 vs Fulham, 3 vs West ham, 1 vs chelsea, spurs and Palace

That's an insane record for a CB
 
2-0 trossard, West ham are trash

Arsenal should be looking for another 6-0 here
 
But but but Odegaard is not world class.

But but but I can’t spell his name and will keep calling him Oddegard.

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Excellent 1st half, apart from 2 goals we gave away.

This west ham manager should be getting the sack soon
 
Should take Gabriel off here if their is any injury doubts
 
Good day out barring a 5 minute spell.

Nothing less than what I expected tbh.

I mean on a side note the foul for their 2nd goal god knows what the ref saw. Great FK though.
 
The last 3 games have proved that Arsenal’s stutter was all about bad luck with injuries and of course referring stupidity.

Odegaard is one of the greatest players in the world who walks into any team in the world.

Arsenal would have been top right now if he didn’t get injured. Unfortunately, I feel they have lost too much ground now to topple Liverpool, but it is important to end this season strong, finish second, and go again next season.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Odegaard will lift the Premier League trophy at the Emirates sooner rather than later.
 
I hope after this game, all this Odegaard disrespect will finally stop.

Yes, I had my concerns with him prior to this year but since Jan 2024, he's entered his prime and has turned into a world class CAM. He would walk into any team.
 
Mamoon said:
The last 3 games have proved that Arsenal’s stutter was all about bad luck with injuries and of course referring stupidity.

Odegaard is one of the greatest players in the world who walks into any team in the world.

Arsenal would have been top right now if he didn’t get injured. Unfortunately, I feel they have lost too much ground now to topple Liverpool, but it is important to end this season strong, finish second, and go again next season.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Odegaard will lift the Premier League trophy at the Emirates sooner rather than later.
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It's not over yet. Liverpool are one injury away from letting it slip. If Salah or Gravenberch (or perhaps VVD) get injured they will be drop points.

They had a great chance of winning the league last season despite having an easier run in than Arsenal and City. Let's see how they do against City, Newcastle and away to Everton.
 
topspin said:
It's not over yet. Liverpool are one injury away from letting it slip. If Salah or Gravenberch (or perhaps VVD) get injured they will be drop points.

They had a great chance of winning the league last season despite having an easier run in than Arsenal and City. Let's see how they do against City, Newcastle and away to Everton.
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Konate is a big loss for them..lets see how they cope.

I said a few weeks ago it's gonna be difficult and unlikely but I also said never say never.

Somehow arsenal need to be no more than 4-5 points behind come January to make the 2nd half of the season interesting. Let's just see what happens
 
topspin said:
I hope after this game, all this Odegaard disrespect will finally stop.

Yes, I had my concerns with him prior to this year but since Jan 2024, he's entered his prime and has turned into a world class CAM. He would walk into any team.
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Odegaard is at an age De Bruyne was in 2017, and De Bruyne of 2017 was by not means a significantly better than Odegaard of today.

Between 2018-2023, De Bruyne reached - and sustained - a phenomenal level that made him one of the greatest in PL history, and there is no reason Odegaard cannot do the same between now and 2028-2029.

City would kill to sign him as his replacement but he will not leave Arsenal for anyone let alone City.
 
topspin said:
It's not over yet. Liverpool are one injury away from letting it slip. If Salah or Gravenberch (or perhaps VVD) get injured they will be drop points.

They had a great chance of winning the league last season despite having an easier run in than Arsenal and City. Let's see how they do against City, Newcastle and away to Everton.
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I hope you are right, but I think Slot has been unbelievable. He has exposed Klopp and perhaps if Liverpool had him all these years, they would have won at least 3 league titles.

It seems fairly inevitable that Liverpool would win the league, but I would take a strong finish and second from this point. I think it would give the club and the fans a lot of boost and put an end to the regression that we feared few weeks ago.
 
Mamoon said:
I hope you are right, but I think Slot has been unbelievable. He has exposed Klopp and perhaps if Liverpool had him all these years, they would have won at least 3 league titles.

It seems fairly inevitable that Liverpool would win the league, but I would take a strong finish and second from this point. I think it would give the club and the fans a lot of boost and put an end to the regression that we feared few weeks ago.
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If we don’t win the league, I think we’re one of the four favourites to win the CL.

I think it’ll be between Liverpool, Arsenal, Barcelona and Inter.

I don’t see Madrid or City winning it this season.

The way we beat Sporting, who are the same team that demolished City, was brilliant. Arsenal have made a real statement and it shows what they’re capable of doing in Europe this season.
 
topspin said:
If we don’t win the league, I think we’re one of the four favourites to win the CL.

I think it’ll be between Liverpool, Arsenal, Barcelona and Inter.

I don’t see Madrid or City winning it this season.
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Premier League over UCL any day, but winning or even getting other final of the UCL would be massive for the club.
 
It isn’t surprising that Havertz has looked very good since Odegaard came back. He was clearly devoid of service in his absence. Any ST/CF would struggle for Arsenal without Odegaard pulling the strings.

I don’t think Arsenal need to invest big in a ST, but finding a Saka level LW is a must. Martinelli has reached his ceiling.
 
Mamoon said:
Premier League over UCL any day, but winning or even getting other final of the UCL would be massive for the club.
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I've never had the feeling of winning the UCL so until I do I wouldn't be able to say the same.

What I do believe is the PL is more difficult to win then UCL.
 
Mamoon said:
It isn’t surprising that Havertz has looked very good since Odegaard came back. He was clearly devoid of service in his absence. Any ST/CF would struggle for Arsenal without Odegaard pulling the strings.

I don’t think Arsenal need to invest big in a ST, but finding a Saka level LW is a must. Martinelli has reached his ceiling.
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The top priority should certainly be a Left winger, who is an upgrade on Martinelli and can also cover for Ode as a CAM.

So someone like Musiala.
 
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