Sporting hadn't lost a game all season and were undefeated at home in over a year until Arsenal showed up. I'm sure you were aware of this because according to you, a few hours before the game, you said:
You obviously had zero expectation for Arsenal to pick up a draw let alone destroy them, so I'm not sure why you're now bringing up "Santa Clara"? We beat the same team that totally embarrassed City.
What I really want to focus on here is why I feel Arsenal are among the favourites to win the Champions League.
Arsenal are not the same team in Europe that we saw last season, where the team was struggling away from home in big atmospheres. But that's understandable for a relatively young team that hasn't played Champions League football together. A good number of players in that squad had never playing in this tournament before.
It is pertinent to mention:
Last season, Arsenal limped over the line against a bang average Porto side that finished 3rd in their league with 18 points less than the league winners, Sporting. It's bizarre for an Arsenal fan to not undermine the win against the Portuguese champions.
It's not just about one game. If we go by eye test, Arsenal seem to be more at ease. They don't look so intimidated now away from home in Europe.
A good friend of mine is doing his scouting courses and is very knowledgeable about the modern game. He's a Liverpool fan but at the same time a massive football nerd. He actually mentioned Arsenal looked much better in Europe and we both agree that Liverpool, Barcelona, Inter and Arsenal are the four favourites to win it.
In response to your criticism of Arsenal's displays against Atalanta and Inter. If you actually follow Italian football, it's very tough to play against them because they all play man-to-man marking systems which is way to different to what you find in the Premier League. If you're not used to playing man-to-man, it takes some serious getting used to. This is evident by the fact that even a team like City have found goals hard to come by. In recent years, they have played them twice. Beat them 1-0 in a CL final and more recently drew with them 0-0 at home earlier in the season. The fact that they could only score 1 goal over these 2 games sums up how tough it is to score against Inter and why there is no shame in drawing away to Atalanta.
If we cast our minds back to Arsenal's performance against Inter, I remember they showed a lot of confidence in possession but struggled to break down what was a defensive masterclass from Simone Inzaghi's side. Arsenal didn't badly. They missed Odegaard and Inter got a very soft penalty. Arsenal were unlucky to lose this game.
The bottom line is if you cannot see any difference between Arsenal in Europe this season and what we saw from them last season, then you're either being disingenuous or are blind to the reality.
Only person blind here is you, so once again let me burst you over hype as usual. Seems you've joined the bhangra squad with amount of premature excitement your peddaling out.
So based on 1 league stage game Arsenal are now proven favourites over Real Madrid and Man city, because you and super nerd scout agreed on it, what absolute grade A nonsense.
1st of the reason I didnt expect Arsenal to get anything out of the game was due to their trash away form away from home in the CL over a 12 month period (that's a good sample size to go over) and on top of that Arsenal's poor form in general going into the game.
In isolation is it a good result yes, but what does it have to do with knockout stage football next year? Nothing.
End of day league football is different to knockouts. If you are losing a league stage game, their is no 2nd leg to salvage a draw or a defeat.
Arsenal lost 1-0 inter, during that game they had to push for an equalising goal, otherwise they got no points. If Arsenal were 1-0 to inter in 1/4 finals, their isn't the same pressure to go gun ho trying to score an equalising goal as you can still salvage the tie in the 2nd leg. The fact you getting over excited by a league stage and make your favourite based on thar is hilarious.
Villa beat Bayern, so does that make them one of favourites as well? Because Bayern along with City, Real are usually seen as main 3 contenders.
Why are Monaco not favourites? They beat Barcelona. According to your logic being used they should Be.
Arsenal created next to nothing in the Porto, Bayern, Atlanta and inter games, teams that can actually defend. Yet according to you Arsenal are one of the favourites, because they have world class oddegard and havertz.
Arsensl record in knockout games in Europe under Arteta is shambolic, even in other knockout competitions is pathetic as well
Since winning FA cup, Arsensl have won 2 FA cup games. The league cup is on similar level shambolic.
In Europe getting knocked out by villareal, Olympiakos, sporting and Bayern.
But now because Arsensl won 1 away game in CL after a year, oh they are a changed team. All of Europe is trembling.
The fact you rolled out oddegard missing for 1 European game is embarrassing. What exactly did he do in all the other away European games nothing.
Knockout stages is played over two legs, which means you need to have some sort of decent away performances, otherwise your having to be amazing at home.
The fact your writing off Man city and real Madrid, based on current league stage performances? What relevance does that have to knockout games? Zero
Arsenal ain't winning the CL this season, il stake my PP membership on it that they ain't. If they do il retire from this site let's see if you can back up your so called confidence in similar manner.
Most of our players dissapear when it comes to European and domestic cup games, but not we are favourites over established winners
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We same nonsense last season, but bit Arsenal are 3rd favs behind Real and Man city, as they have 3rd best squad in Europe.. that was the bakwas roller out last season.
... but but pray for Bayern they don't have a chance. Where were world class oddegard and havertz against Bayern? Nowhere to be seen.
Il let this play out and let you get the reality check again this season.
All this over hype because we had 1 good league stage win and superherd scout did some amazing analysis