Arsenal FC | 2024/25 Season

[KingKhanWC]

I hope Isak enjoyed playing at the Emirates, this should be his home.

The legendary #14 is vacant and waiting for Isak at the Emirates. There were shades of Henry in his game yesterday.

Would love to see him play as LWF replacing Martinelli and linking up with Saka, Odegaard and Havertz.

Isak has outgrown Newcastle. At 25, he needs to join a club like Arsenal where he can compete for the title over the next 5 years.

Has Isak shown any interest in leaving and any in wanting to move to Arsenal?

Newcastle is on the way up, Im not sure he'd leave for Arsenal. Besides Arteta is very content with the squad he has, numerous occasions he has stated this. He is currently at the doctors with Havertz to check if his shoulder is ok.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

I hope Isak enjoyed playing at the Emirates, this should be his home.

The legendary #14 is vacant and waiting for Isak at the Emirates. There were shades of Henry in his game yesterday.

Would love to see him play as LWF replacing Martinelli and linking up with Saka, Odegaard and Havertz.

Isak has outgrown Newcastle. At 25, he needs to join a club like Arsenal where he can compete for the title over the next 5 years.

You can't afford him

If he left us, why would he join someone that is likely to stifle him and want him to be a threat on corners?

If we can offer him European football next season I don't think he asks to leave, if we can't then he goes to a team that has a history of winning

 

[Amjid Javed]

Its embarrassing, after every poor result Arteta feels his team played well, were the better team etc but something out of Dr Who was the cause of the final result.

Reality is Arteta cannot say he has failed to buy goalscoring attackers. I have a feeling he has gone to the board to ask for a striker but they reminded him he was backed to buy a forward and he chose Havertz. Id be very surprised if Arsenal buy a top forward this month.

Arteta should apply to be Pakistan cricket coach. His micro managing and level of incompetence would fit right in there.

 

[Amjid Javed]

All this fuss made by this fan base about oddegard being injured, he's world class, wait till he's back

2 assists and God know how many games he's gone missing in

But but you have an agenda

But but you hate oddegard



Reality setting in now is it guys?

 

[Amjid Javed]

You can't afford him

If he left us, why would he join someone that is likely to stifle him and want him to be a threat on corners?

If we can offer him European football next season I don't think he asks to leave, if we can't then he goes to a team that has a history of winning

100% spot on, we don't always agree.

But you 100% spot on

Arteta would turn isak into a left wingback or CB if he was at Arsenal

 

[KingKhanWC]

You can't afford him

If he left us, why would he join someone that is likely to stifle him and want him to be a threat on corners?

If we can offer him European football next season I don't think he asks to leave, if we can't then he goes to a team that has a history of winning

I believe he has a release cause of over £85m and contracted until 2028. His game has improved so much under Howe, esp off the ball and winning the ball back, a real menace.

 

[MK7Z]

Time is ticking for Arteta. Its evident with the atmosphere at the emirates.

Play safety 1st football and dont sign attackers. What do you expect.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

I believe he has a release cause of over £85m and contracted until 2028. His game has improved so much under Howe, esp off the ball and winning the ball back, a real menace.

There is no release clause, his contract is until summer 2028 so 3.5 years left so we hold all the cards

 

[Amjid Javed]

@MK7Z @aboveandbeyond @IMMY69 @shaz619 @topspin @KingKhanWC

Anyone know why world class Havertz didn't play last night?

Arsenal only need a back up to havertz

Hehe here waka waka

65M down the drain

Arteta will unlock havertz he was misused at Chelsea

 

[MK7Z]

@MK7Z @aboveandbeyond @IMMY69 @shaz619 @topspin @KingKhanWC

Anyone know why world class Havertz didn't play last night?

Arsenal only need a back up to havertz

Hehe here waka waka

65M down the drain

Arteta will unlock havertz he was misused at Chelsea

He did play. He created space for all our other attackers by vacating his space by not being there.

 

[Mamoon]

Has Isak shown any interest in leaving and any in wanting to move to Arsenal?

Newcastle is on the way up, Im not sure he'd leave for Arsenal. Besides Arteta is very content with the squad he has, numerous occasions he has stated this. He is currently at the doctors with Havertz to check if his shoulder is ok.

You can't afford him

If he left us, why would he join someone that is likely to stifle him and want him to be a threat on corners?

If we can offer him European football next season I don't think he asks to leave, if we can't then he goes to a team that has a history of winning

I beg to differ. Isak will cost around £100m and Arsenal can easily afford that kind of money. Arsenal spent £105m on a DM when they wanted to.

If you look around Europe and shortlist the clubs who can pay that kind of money and will also be looking to sign a striker this summer, the list isn’t long at all which means Arsenal are heavy favorites to sign him if they really push for it in the summer.

Furthermore, as far as playing style is concerned, we have to understand that Arteta is playing this way because he doesn’t have a forward who can score 25+ goals.

He played differently when he had a prolific striker like Aubameyang who scored lots of goals. If Arteta lands Isak, he will tweak the way he plays and Isak will get plenty of goal scoring opportunities. A lot more than he does at Newcastle.

As far as why he will leave Newcastle for Arsenal, well it is a clear step up in his career. Newcastle is not a position to compete for the league and is unlikely to be during the prime years of Isak.

As far as European football is concerned, that is not enough. There is no point in offering European football to the likes of Isak when Newcastle will be whipping boys in the UCL and fighting for top 4/5 in the PL.

Newcastle today is where Arsenal was during the last 10 years of Wenger and the 1.5 years of Emery. Arsenal under Arteta is clearly a step up from that level.

Isak to Arsenal this summer makes sense for all parties. Arsenal get to sign a highly talented young forward who is about to enter his prime, Isak gets to sign for a club that is competing to win the league and Newcastle make a good £35-40m profit on Isak and can reinvest that money to sign 2-3 good players and maintain their current level.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Time is ticking for Arteta. Its evident with the atmosphere at the emirates.

Play safety 1st football and dont sign attackers. What do you expect.

United (H)
Spurs (H)
Villa (H)

Arsenal lose any of these next 3 the humiliation will only be even worse

 

[Amjid Javed]

He did play. He created space for all our other attackers by vacating his space by not being there.

Anyone got the stats for how much space he created

 

[Amjid Javed]

so Newcastle would be whipping boys in Europe

This from a whose beloved manager has had his pants taken down in Europe by Olympiakos, villareal and sporting Lisbon

But but Arteta will play different if he had a 25 goal season striker

Same Arteta that turned aubameyung (who was scoring as same rate as salah at one point) into a left wingback

Absolute this yet another one of your clueless gems

 

[MK7Z]

He has 18 league games and however many cup/UCL games to save himself for what will be probably be his last 6 months into next season if this continues .... If we end up empty handed and strikerless I don't see him being manager next Xmas.

I want him to be here next season cos that would mean we have won something. When I say win something i mean a biggie.

Issue a lot of fans have is we don't even play enjoyable football anymore. Its one thing playing a reserved way and winning titles. I am all for it I couldn't care less. But playing diabolical football and being empty handed is unacceptable.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I beg to differ. Isak will cost around £100m and Arsenal can easily afford that kind of money. Arsenal spent £105m on a DM when they wanted to.

If you look around Europe and shortlist the clubs who can pay that kind of money and will also be looking to sign a striker this summer, the list isn’t long at all which means Arsenal are heavy favorites to sign him if they really push for it in the summer.

Furthermore, as far as playing style is concerned, we have to understand that Arteta is playing this way because he doesn’t have a forward who can score 25+ goals.

He played differently when he had a prolific striker like Aubameyang who scored lots of goals. If Arteta lands Isak, he will tweak the way he plays and Isak will get plenty of goal scoring opportunities. A lot more than he does at Newcastle.

As far as why he will leave Newcastle for Arsenal, well it is a clear step up in his career. Newcastle is not a position to compete for the league and is unlikely to be during the prime years of Isak.

As far as European football is concerned, that is not enough. There is no point in offering European football to the likes of Isak when Newcastle will be whipping boys in the UCL and fighting for top 4/5 in the PL.

Newcastle today is where Arsenal was during the last 10 years of Wenger and the 1.5 years of Emery. Arsenal under Arteta is clearly a step up from that level.

Isak to Arsenal this summer makes sense for all parties. Arsenal get to sign a highly talented young forward who is about to enter his prime, Isak gets to sign for a club that is competing to win the league and Newcastle make a good £35-40m profit on Isak and can reinvest that money to sign 2-3 good players and maintain their current level.

I agree it makes sense for Arsenal. As I stated previously there are so many clubs in the PL which have superiour attackers to Arsenal, I'd say at least 10!

Im not sure Arsenal will spend over 100m again so soon. There will be a lot of interest from other clubs too, he has never stated he wants only Arsenal.

 

[MK7Z]

I agree it makes sense for Arsenal. As I stated previously there are so many clubs in the PL which have superiour attackers to Arsenal, I'd say at least 10!

This is a fair point - for the interest of discussion i'd like to hear which 10 teams have better attackers. So players who you think are better than Saka, Martinelli, Jesus, Havertz and Trossard as those are our attacking options.

I find it hard to believe 10 teams have better attackers than us. If you meant striker then ok you might have a point but i'd like to hear them.

Issue we have is apart from the obvious strikers in the league and the ones doing well this season is would they actually take us to a league title. Not saying improve us. Take us to a league title. There is a difference. Isak is the only one I can think of who we MIGHT be able to get.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

I beg to differ. Isak will cost around £100m and Arsenal can easily afford that kind of money. Arsenal spent £105m on a DM when they wanted to.

If you look around Europe and shortlist the clubs who can pay that kind of money and will also be looking to sign a striker this summer, the list isn’t long at all which means Arsenal are heavy favorites to sign him if they really push for it in the summer.

Furthermore, as far as playing style is concerned, we have to understand that Arteta is playing this way because he doesn’t have a forward who can score 25+ goals.

He played differently when he had a prolific striker like Aubameyang who scored lots of goals. If Arteta lands Isak, he will tweak the way he plays and Isak will get plenty of goal scoring opportunities. A lot more than he does at Newcastle.

As far as why he will leave Newcastle for Arsenal, well it is a clear step up in his career. Newcastle is not a position to compete for the league and is unlikely to be during the prime years of Isak.

As far as European football is concerned, that is not enough. There is no point in offering European football to the likes of Isak when Newcastle will be whipping boys in the UCL and fighting for top 4/5 in the PL.

Newcastle today is where Arsenal was during the last 10 years of Wenger and the 1.5 years of Emery. Arsenal under Arteta is clearly a step up from that level.

Isak to Arsenal this summer makes sense for all parties. Arsenal get to sign a highly talented young forward who is about to enter his prime, Isak gets to sign for a club that is competing to win the league and Newcastle make a good £35-40m profit on Isak and can reinvest that money to sign 2-3 good players and maintain their current level.

£100m does not get you Isak

You've just explained how Rice cost you £105m

So how would a proven goalscorer, who is arguably top 3 in the world in his position, still with 3.5 years left on his contract, not given any indication he wants to leave end up costing less than him?

Your chance for signing Isak would have been when we signed him but you didn't take that chance on him and now it would cost more than you'd be able/prepared to pay

 

[Amjid Javed]

He has 18 league games and however many cup/UCL games to save himself for what will be probably be his last 6 months into next season if this continues .... If we end up empty handed and strikerless I don't see him being manager next Xmas.

I want him to be here next season cos that would mean we have won something. When I say win something i mean a biggie.

Issue a lot of fans have is we don't even play enjoyable football anymore. Its one thing playing a reserved way and winning titles. I am all for it I couldn't care less. But playing diabolical football and being empty handed is unacceptable.

As long as Arsenal make top 4, he will still be here next season.

He ain't getting anywhere near 15M a year elsewhere, the kronkes have paid him that under provisions that he gets CL football and acts as the shield from criticism

This club will never change

 

[Amjid Javed]

£100m does not get you Isak

You've just explained how Rice cost you £105m

So how would a proven goalscorer, who is arguably top 3 in the world in his position, still with 3.5 years left on his contract, not given any indication he wants to leave end up costing less than him?

Your chance for signing Isak would have been when we signed him but you didn't take that chance on him and now it would cost more than you'd be able/prepared to pay

You forgot about that knock and pull.

Isak will hand in a transfer request and move.

This is the delusional world most Arsenal fans live in.

 

[KingKhanWC]

This is a fair point - for the interest of discussion i'd like to hear which 10 teams have better attackers. So players who you think are better than Saka, Martinelli, Jesus, Havertz and Trossard as those are our attacking options.

I find it hard to believe 10 teams have better attackers than us. If you meant striker then ok you might have a point but i'd like to hear them.

Issue we have is apart from the obvious strikers in the league and the ones doing well this season is would they actually take us to a league title. Not saying improve us. Take us to a league title. There is a difference. Isak is the only one I can think of who we MIGHT be able to get.

I agree someone like Isak would be ideal, you need a striker who can get into the box at any given occasion when the ball is played into the area. Arsenal are actually very good at putting in crosses but most occasions there is nobody there to put the ball in the net. Jota would be another one who would be ideal but hes not leaving .

I should have been more clear, I was talking of strikers in regards to Isak and Arsenal lack of. As for this season, the below teams IMO have better strikers. I think the below teams all have better goalscorers than Jesus and Havertz, most Arsenal fans wont agree though lol.

Notts F
Spurs
LFC
City
Newcastle
Fulham
Villa
Palace
Chelsea
Bournmouth

 

[Mamoon]

£100m does not get you Isak

You've just explained how Rice cost you £105m

So how would a proven goalscorer, who is arguably top 3 in the world in his position, still with 3.5 years left on his contract, not given any indication he wants to leave end up costing less than him?

Your chance for signing Isak would have been when we signed him but you didn't take that chance on him and now it would cost more than you'd be able/prepared to pay

Firstly, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Isak is not arguably top 3 in the world by any means. He is very good but let’s not overhype him now. He has the potential to be in the future, but as of today, he is not.

Secondly, Isak’s estimated transfer fee of around £100m is based on the assumption that he will ask to leave in the summer.

If he lacks ambition and doesn’t want to move to a club where he is competing for the league and not looking at European qualification as an achievement, good for Newcastle.

In that situation, they can put a £300m price tag on him if they want to, it is their call. However, if Isak really wants to progress in his career and fight for something meaningful, he needs to leave Newcastle in the summer.

A fee of around £100m for a player who would want to leave is a very fair price. His contract expires in 2028, so Newcastle can force him to stay until 2026-2027, but then they risk selling him for below his valuation.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Firstly, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Isak is not arguably top 3 in the world by any means. He is very good but let’s not overhype him now. He has the potential to be in the future, but as of today, he is not.

Secondly, Isak’s estimated transfer fee of around £100m is based on the assumption that he will ask to leave in the summer.

If he lacks ambition and doesn’t want to move to a club where he is competing for the league and not looking at European qualification as an achievement, good for Newcastle.

In that situation, they can put a £300m price tag on him if they want to, it is their call. However, if Isak really wants to progress in his career and fight for something meaningful, he needs to leave Newcastle in the summer.

A fee of around £100m for a player who would want to leave is a very fair price. His contract expires in 2028, so Newcastle can force him to stay until 2026-2027, but then they risk selling him for below his valuation.

Declan Rice wanted to leave yet you paid £105m for him

You are assuming Isak will kick up a big fuss, that's a huge assumption to make. He can ask to leave and we'll ask for an amount that reflects his talent/ability

You are absolutely deluded if you think you can get him for £100m

The fact your fans are desperate for your club to sign him indicates he is amongst the best in his position, if he's not then why don't you go and get those that are better?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Declan Rice wanted to leave yet you paid £105m for him

You are assuming Isak will kick up a big fuss, that's a huge assumption to make. He can ask to leave and we'll ask for an amount that reflects his talent/ability

You are absolutely deluded if you think you can get him for £100m

The fact your fans are desperate for your club to sign him indicates he is amongst the best in his position, if he's not then why don't you go and get those that are better?

You having a conversation with a who thinks havertz and Odegaard are workd class and Arteta is greatest history of the game. why waste your time on this

 

[MK7Z]

I agree someone like Isak would be ideal, you need a striker who can get into the box at any given occasion when the ball is played into the area. Arsenal are actually very good at putting in crosses but most occasions there is nobody there to put the ball in the net. Jota would be another one who would be ideal but hes not leaving .

I should have been more clear, I was talking of strikers in regards to Isak and Arsenal lack of. As for this season, the below teams IMO have better strikers. I think the below teams all have better goalscorers than Jesus and Havertz, most Arsenal fans wont agree though lol.

Notts F
Spurs
LFC
City
Newcastle
Fulham
Villa
Palace
Chelsea
Bournmouth

Whether Arsenal fans agree or disagree shouldn't matter. Like I said all the strikers in that list probably better than ours. I mean we dont have a striker so you could argue all other 19 teams have better than us.

Actually your list missed out Cunha for Wolves, Mbeumo and Wissa for Brentford. Jao Pedro for Brighton. Liam Delap for Ipswich Jamie Vardy for Leicester.

Apart from Isak and Watkins I dont think any of the other strikers for the above teams wins us the league (except obvs Haaland)

 

[aboveandbeyond]

You having a conversation with a who thinks havertz and Odegaard are workd class and Arteta is greatest history of the game. why waste your time on this

Odegaard and Sakah are quality performers who have proven time and time again

The problem lies with the Players around them, are they up to the standard required to challenge and win trophies?

I'm not sure they are.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Odegaard and Sakah are quality performers who have proven time and time again

The problem lies with the Players around them, are they up to the standard required to challenge and win trophies?

I'm not sure they are.

Saka has performed every season. Oddegard has good patches, then dissapears when it matters the most.

 

[Mamoon]

Declan Rice wanted to leave yet you paid £105m for him

You are assuming Isak will kick up a big fuss, that's a huge assumption to make. He can ask to leave and we'll ask for an amount that reflects his talent/ability

You are absolutely deluded if you think you can get him for £100m

The fact your fans are desperate for your club to sign him indicates he is amongst the best in his position, if he's not then why don't you go and get those that are better?

The ones that are better (Haaland, Kane, Mbappe, Gykores etc.) are unattainable except Gyokeres, so for Arsenal it is either him or Isak as the two realistic options.

Gyokeres is a far better striker than Isak but for Arsenal, Isak is more suitable because he can play on the left as well, which means he can partner Havertz.

The other alternative is Marmoush who is really good as well and fits the profile but he seems City bound.

You are kidding yourself if you think you can sell Isak for £150m+ if he asks to leave. That is not going to happen. Newcastle will do a deal for far less than that if he asks to leave.

The Rice situation was different. Arsenal overpaid for him because he never pressurized West Ham to sell him out of respect for what is essentially his boyhood club. Had Rice kicked up a fuss, West Ham would have been forced to settle for a significantly lesser amount.

Isak has no such loyalties towards Newcastle. He is not a homegrown player and if he thinks Arsenal is the right move for him and Newcastle are being rigid, he will make like difficult for the club.