Arsenal FC | 2024/25 Season

[IMMY69]

This was embarrassing and yet I'm glad it happened...

We're not going to be able to buy quality in January so I'm writing off this season.... enough is enough

 

[IMMY69]

Embarrassing nearly an hour with an extra man.

utd deserved the win , showed a lot of fight and defensively sound . Their keeper looks world class . Ruben will take this club back to the top if he is given time and money.

Any half decent striker would have scored a hatrick for us today...
All those crosses that had Havitz flapping around like a monkey, never mind the two sitters he missed...

 

[Amjid Javed]

Amazing manager - 2 FA cup tie wins vs Oxford and Newcastle since we last won trophy.

Be positive guys

Trust the process guys

But but you have an agenda

But but your toxic

Welcome to reality

 

[MK7Z]

This was embarrassing and yet I'm glad it happened...

We're not going to be able to buy quality in January so I'm writing off this season.... enough is enough

Ye I'm the same it's a weird one.

Yet the board won't act.

I said we won't win if Mikel picks Merino and Jorginho....

 

[Amjid Javed]

Any half decent striker would have scored a hatrick for us today...
All those crosses that had Havitz flapping around like a monkey, never mind the two sitters he missed...

Told you this guy was a flop when we signed him

2 years running he's now cost us an FA Cup tie

 

[Amjid Javed]

Ye I'm the same it's a weird one.

Yet the board won't act.

I said we won't win if Mikel picks Merino and Jorginho....

Sorry bro, Merino and Jorginho didn't play today? I didn't see them on the pitch.

@Geordie Ahmed feel free to take to merino back

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Sorry bro, Merino and Jorginho didn't play today? I didn't see them on the pitch.

@Geordie Ahmed feel free to take to merino back

I'd take him in a heartbeat, think a proper coach would do wonders with him . . . .

 

[Mamoon]

I’m glad United took a break from collecting their usual L at the Emirates. Joke of a team. Enjoy the fluke win.

Not a positive result for Arsenal but as I said, domestic cups do not define Arsenal’s season. They are only for the likes of United who are struggling to finish in the top half.

Arsenal is still second in the league in spite of all the problems that they have had to encounter this season. The important part is to build on this in the summer and go again next season.

No point in crying over this season. Yes this should have been Arsenal’s season but it wasn’t to be due to a combination of injuries, bad luck and referee incompetence. However, this is part of football.

 

[MK7Z]

I’m glad United took a break from collecting their usual L at the Emirates. Joke of a team. Enjoy the fluke win.

Not a positive result for Arsenal but as I said, domestic cups do not define Arsenal’s season. They are only for the likes of United who are struggling to finish in the top half.

Arsenal is still second in the league in spite of all the problems that they have had to encounter this season. The important part is to build on this in the summer and go again next season.

No point in crying over this season. Yes this should have been Arsenal’s season but it wasn’t to be due to a combination of injuries, bad luck and referee incompetence. However, this is part of football.

Lol. Odd take on the situation.

Forget the competition. Look at the performance of the forward line in particular the highest paid player at the club.

I don't think Isak on the wing would have helped him score those sitters. Maybe if he took his blindfold off he would have scored.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I’m glad United took a break from collecting their usual L at the Emirates. Joke of a team. Enjoy the fluke win.

Not a positive result for Arsenal but as I said, domestic cups do not define Arsenal’s season. They are only for the likes of United who are struggling to finish in the top half.

Arsenal is still second in the league in spite of all the problems that they have had to encounter this season. The important part is to build on this in the summer and go again next season.

No point in crying over this season. Yes this should have been Arsenal’s season but it wasn’t to be due to a combination of injuries, bad luck and referee incompetence. However, this is part of football.

The ref gave you a penalty after havertz dive , the only thing he did well today.

Plz summarise today's performance?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I'd take him in a heartbeat, think a proper coach would do wonders with him . . . .

Too slow and not physical enough for the premier league imo

 

[Markhor]

Watched the game live with my young nephew and we both couldn't believe the amount of chances Havertz missed. With Jesus injured, surely they must do some January business.

Utd defended well, credit to Amorim who seems to be embedding his ideas.

 

[Mamoon]

Lol. Odd take on the situation.

Forget the competition. Look at the performance of the forward line in particular the highest paid player at the club.

I don't think Isak on the wing would have helped him score those sitters. Maybe if he took his blindfold off he would have scored.

Accept the situation and look forward. In football, the only match that matters is the next one.

 

[Mamoon]

The ref gave you a penalty after havertz dive , the only thing he did well today.

Plz summarise today's performance?

So what if Arsenal lost? Everyone knows they dominated United like they always do, United has been Arsenal’s pet dog in the 2020s, but today it wasn’t meant to be.

On another day, Arsenal win 3-1 but today was not the day. So what?

 

[Mamoon]

Too slow and not physical enough for the premier league imo

Still not 10% the flop mentally retarded Darwin Nunez is.

 

[Mamoon]

Darwin Nunez barely survived the special needs spectrum.

 

[The_KING]

So what if Arsenal lost? Everyone knows they dominated United like they always do, United has been Arsenal’s pet dog in the 2020s, but today it wasn’t meant to be.

On another day, Arsenal win 3-1 but today was not the day. So what?

Cry more. Man United have still won more trophies than your club in the 2020s.

You are a typical Arsenal fan that I see on social media. Your club hasn't won the league in over 20 years, has never won the champions league or even the europa league in your entire history, but yet you got the arrogance of a Real Madrid fan. I can't wait for the rest of the season, where Arteta once again fails to win anything.

 

[The_KING]

Havertz is rubbish. I can't believe Arteta spent 65 million on a Chelsea flop.

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but Odegaard is better then Musiala

But but havertz gets me excited when I watch him play

zero ball knowledge at its finest

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Too slow and not physical enough for the premier league imo

Bruno G isn't quick or overly physical and he is thriving in this league

With Merino, I accept he has been poor but how many Arsenal players have looked good lately? This is a coaching issue and it's on Arteta to resolve it

 

[Amjid Javed]

Bruno G isn't quick or overly physical and he is thriving in this league

With Merino, I accept he has been poor but how many Arsenal players have looked good lately? This is a coaching issue and it's on Arteta to resolve it

this guy is trash, I told you he was sociedads 3rd best midfielder

B-tech granit xhaka

 

[Amjid Javed]

Havertz is rubbish. I can't believe Arteta spent 65 million on a Chelsea flop.

But but he tries hard

But but he was misused by Chelsea and Germany

 

[Amjid Javed]

The ref gave you a penalty after havertz dive , the only thing he did well today.

Plz summarise today's performance?

Havertz got him excited during the game, he had to go change his underwear numerous times during game.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I’m glad United took a break from collecting their usual L at the Emirates. Joke of a team. Enjoy the fluke win.

Not a positive result for Arsenal but as I said, domestic cups do not define Arsenal’s season. They are only for the likes of United who are struggling to finish in the top half.

Arsenal is still second in the league in spite of all the problems that they have had to encounter this season. The important part is to build on this in the summer and go again next season.

No point in crying over this season. Yes this should have been Arsenal’s season but it wasn’t to be due to a combination of injuries, bad luck and referee incompetence. However, this is part of football.

Ha ha ha haha

King bottle jobs.

Come on the MIGHTY REDS

 

[Markhor]

But but he tries hard

But but he was misused by Chelsea and Germany

Why was he lined up for a penalty after missing so many chances in the game ? That penalty showed his head had completely gone.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Why was he lined up for a penalty after missing so many chances in the game ? That penalty showed his head had completely gone.

Hes Arteta favourite pet so it wasn't a shock he was taking a penalty

Also the reason this guy starts so many games, is because just like players in past like willian, Bellerby, xhaka hes likely to have a clause in his contract stipulating that if he's fit, he should be playing a certain number of games

 

[Amjid Javed]

So we had 2 posters on here with their light bulbs out doing bhangra over world class havertz

Now let's deal with reality

CL vs Bayern - dissapeared
FA cup vs liverpool - missed 4 or 5 sitters
League cup semi vs Newcastle - missed sitters
FA cup vs united - missed sitters and a penalty

People wanted to compare this guy to harland (without penalties)

Top 10 striker in the world

This guys on 300K a week, cost 65M

And now 1 cheerleader isn't making excuses and the other has dissapeared more times then havertz and Odegaard does.

You both deserve the humiliation of rotten eggs and tomatoes today

 

[KingKhanWC]

So what if Arsenal lost? Everyone knows they dominated United like they always do, United has been Arsenal’s pet dog in the 2020s, but today it wasn’t meant to be.

On another day, Arsenal win 3-1 but today was not the day. So what?

After criticising liverpool for drawing against a poor utd team in your opinion , 60 mins against the same team with a man extra ended in out of the competition.

Havertz better than firmino , now back to Nunez who below par outscored the German international last season.

As for so what .... arteta cant win a 3rd charity shield in the summer.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

After criticising liverpool for drawing against a poor utd team in your opinion , 60 mins against the same team with a man extra ended in out of the competition.

Havertz better than firmino , now back to Nunez who below par outscored the German international last season.

As for so what .... arteta cant win a 3rd charity shield in the summer.

Well, if they finish 2nd and Liverpool do the double then it's still possible for Arteta, he'll be dreaming of that . . .

 

[Amjid Javed]

After criticising liverpool for drawing against a poor utd team in your opinion , 60 mins against the same team with a man extra ended in out of the competition.

Havertz better than firmino , now back to Nunez who below par outscored the German international last season.

As for so what .... arteta cant win a 3rd charity shield in the summer.

He's busy eating humble pie, every week his clueless ball knowledge comments get exposed.

Now he just waffles "so what" as he's lost the plot

 

[Amjid Javed]

 

[aboveandbeyond]

The Gooners may feel hard done by after missing numerous chances to kill the game off.

However. I'm certain, we don't go down to 10 men, we would have picked you off for a comfortable win.

From the Gooners point of view, it looks obvious, you have a goal shy attack whilst Sakah is out.

And unless you bring in good reinforcements in January window, your season could Peter out in a damp squid

 

[Amjid Javed]

The Gooners may feel hard done by after missing numerous chances to kill the game off.

However. I'm certain, we don't go down to 10 men, we would have picked you off for a comfortable win.

From the Gooners point of view, it looks obvious, you have a goal shy attack whilst Sakah is out.

And unless you bring in good reinforcements in January window, your season could Peter out in a damp squid

You deserved to win the game.

Without the red card, it was looking like indeed you would have picked us off again on the counter attack.

Apart from saka, all other Arsenal forwards over performed interms of goals and assists. this season all those players have go back to what they are just decent players.

The manager has gone from squeezing lemons to sucking on them. When you spunk away 100M on two donkeys in Jesus and havertz and make them highest players at club, then you deserve the sack


Only the Arteta rent boys are left making excuses for this clueless managers latest failures.

 

[MK7Z]

The day after the night before. Its been coming and you can read my posts over the weeks saying Arteta's tide is turning.

I think his comments in the last week about transfers, community shields scoring the most goals in the last year have shown an arrogance that I didnt like. He is manager of Arsenal we are not some small club. I have backed him and always wanted him to do well but I checked out mentally a few weeks ago cos it was just boring watching us play.

He sharpened the sword thats named Havertz and he will die on it. I said it September 2023.

Move on from him I think cos he's took as far as he can and I think my mind is made up now. There was hope this season but he's destroyed that with his style of play. Just make the set piece coach the manager at least his tactics work sometimes cos apart from that we dont create anything really apart from spamming crosses in the box.

If by some miracle he turns it around and we win 1 of the big 2 (VERY VERY UNLIKELY) then he will have me back on his side and I will give him deserved praise. But until then I see this as the beginning of the end.

Its not because of the Carabao or FA cup. Its been building with his expensive contract and not performing to the level he is getting paid, Also for me its the stuff that comes out his mouth which basically tells you he is the shield for the Kroenke's. I will not back a manager who is the mouthpiece for board.

Once you behave like that then the football club and its fans are not your priority anymore. Its all about making the money

 

[KingKhanWC]

The day after the night before. Its been coming and you can read my posts over the weeks saying Arteta's tide is turning.

I think his comments in the last week about transfers, community shields scoring the most goals in the last year have shown an arrogance that I didnt like. He is manager of Arsenal we are not some small club. I have backed him and always wanted him to do well but I checked out mentally a few weeks ago cos it was just boring watching us play.

He sharpened the sword thats named Havertz and he will die on it. I said it September 2023.

Move on from him I think cos he's took as far as he can and I think my mind is made up now. There was hope this season but he's destroyed that with his style of play. Just make the set piece coach the manager at least his tactics work sometimes cos apart from that we dont create anything really apart from spamming crosses in the box.

If by some miracle he turns it around and we win 1 of the big 2 (VERY VERY UNLIKELY) then he will have me back on his side and I will give him deserved praise. But until then I see this as the beginning of the end.

Its not because of the Carabao or FA cup. Its been building with his expensive contract and not performing to the level he is getting paid, Also for me its the stuff that comes out his mouth which basically tells you he is the shield for the Kroenke's. I will not back a manager who is the mouthpiece for board.

Once you behave like that then the football club and its fans are not your priority anymore. Its all about making the money

Good read.

Arteta is an interesting character, end of last season he was very confident suggesting he needs and can get over 100points to win the league. I thought he is suggesting this because the club has given him plenty of money to buy 2-3 elite players but even now in Jan he is reluctant to buy players.

On the radio Keown was backing up Arteta saying he got rid of a lot of players, he is ruthless etc but he failed to realise those were not the players he bought in ie . Luiz, Abam, Ozil . He seems to be a person who cant accepted mistakes and wants to stay friends/loyal to players who he bought in. The club must come first, managers need to adapt and when you are a top team, finding the missing puzzle to complete is what you are paid for.

 

[MK7Z]

Good read.

Arteta is an interesting character, end of last season he was very confident suggesting he needs and can get over 100points to win the league. I thought he is suggesting this because the club has given him plenty of money to buy 2-3 elite players but even now in Jan he is reluctant to buy players.

On the radio Keown was backing up Arteta saying he got rid of a lot of players, he is ruthless etc but he failed to realise those were not the players he bought in ie . Luiz, Abam, Ozil . He seems to be a person who cant accepted mistakes and wants to stay friends/loyal to players who he bought in. The club must come first, managers need to adapt and when you are a top team, finding the missing puzzle to complete is what you are paid for.

Exactly. He's become a mouthpiece. For 15 million a year let's be honest most would. So don't pretend you love the club if you've sold yourself to the devil

 

[Amjid Javed]

The day after the night before. Its been coming and you can read my posts over the weeks saying Arteta's tide is turning.

I think his comments in the last week about transfers, community shields scoring the most goals in the last year have shown an arrogance that I didnt like. He is manager of Arsenal we are not some small club. I have backed him and always wanted him to do well but I checked out mentally a few weeks ago cos it was just boring watching us play.

He sharpened the sword thats named Havertz and he will die on it. I said it September 2023.

Move on from him I think cos he's took as far as he can and I think my mind is made up now. There was hope this season but he's destroyed that with his style of play. Just make the set piece coach the manager at least his tactics work sometimes cos apart from that we dont create anything really apart from spamming crosses in the box.

If by some miracle he turns it around and we win 1 of the big 2 (VERY VERY UNLIKELY) then he will have me back on his side and I will give him deserved praise. But until then I see this as the beginning of the end.

Its not because of the Carabao or FA cup. Its been building with his expensive contract and not performing to the level he is getting paid, Also for me its the stuff that comes out his mouth which basically tells you he is the shield for the Kroenke's. I will not back a manager who is the mouthpiece for board.

Once you behave like that then the football club and its fans are not your priority anymore. Its all about making the money

Remember when I said this manager was a fraud and you told Me, how is he and I was wrong to say it.

Now he's got his 15M contract and is the kronke shield.

This is exactly what I was alluding to all along, and could see this car crash miles away.

Most of this fan base support Arsenal like its watching a final destination movie. You have got on roller coaster, you know its going to crash and burn. Yet people still get on it, thinking its going to be a different ending.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Good read.

Arteta is an interesting character, end of last season he was very confident suggesting he needs and can get over 100points to win the league. I thought he is suggesting this because the club has given him plenty of money to buy 2-3 elite players but even now in Jan he is reluctant to buy players.

On the radio Keown was backing up Arteta saying he got rid of a lot of players, he is ruthless etc but he failed to realise those were not the players he bought in ie . Luiz, Abam, Ozil . He seems to be a person who cant accepted mistakes and wants to stay friends/loyal to players who he bought in. The club must come first, managers need to adapt and when you are a top team, finding the missing puzzle to complete is what you are paid for.

Keown and parlour are paid mouth pieces for the club, both get paid for media work they do at the club. So neither of these guys will come out and tell the truth.

Go have a look at ex players not at the club, who aren't getting media work through club etc..

Look at Petit and Henry's comments on club where both have been honest about whats going on.

This fan base needs to get off its knees and stop being niave.

Stop acting like a failed manager is bigger than the club.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What are your thoughts on Wednesday home North London Derby v Spurs?

Spurs are all over the place but like Utd they played very well against Liverpool, which must have given them confidence, although struggled in the FA cup v Tamworth.

Spurs will be up for it for sure and will continue to attack strongly. Arsenal will have numerous chances on Wed, its vital to convert into goals.

This one is hard to predict imo. I will go for 3-2 Arsenal win.

 

[MK7Z]

What are your thoughts on Wednesday home North London Derby v Spurs?

Spurs are all over the place but like Utd they played very well against Liverpool, which must have given them confidence, although struggled in the FA cup v Tamworth.

Spurs will be up for it for sure and will continue to attack strongly. Arsenal will have numerous chances on Wed, its vital to convert into goals.

This one is hard to predict imo. I will go for 3-2 Arsenal win.

I won't change that Arsenal have to win all their home games and it's A disgrace if they don't. Same with Spurs. I expect them to win maybe 3-1 or even 4-2. Dare lose this one and Arteta might just have the one fan left.....

Yes I said Arsenal will score 4. Spurs are open and don't have great defenders. Yes they did well vs Liverpool but I thought Liverpool looked off their usual standard.

 

[Mamoon]

Gooners are the worst fanbase in the world and it is not even close. A bunch of petulant, ignorant and impatient fans.

Arsenal today are in a better position than it has been for 20 years and the fans should be grateful and supportive.

The same fans who celebrated 4th place like a trophy for years are now acting like finishing 2nd three seasons in a row is a disaster. Absolutely ridiculous.

It is time to back Arteta in the market so that he can take Arsenal over the line. He is a world class manager and if the board does not back him now, he should walk away in a couple of years because he deserves better.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The wife of Arsenal striker Kai Havertz has shared screenshots of abuse she received on social media amid Sunday's FA Cup loss to Manchester United, including threats to the couple's unborn child.

The forward, 25, missed a glorious chance to win the game in normal time and then had his penalty saved by United keeper Altay Bayindir in the shootout as United won 5-3 on penalties following the 1-1 draw.

The German's wife Sophia posted to her Instagram story two direct messages she had received on the platform.

Arsenal have reported the abuse to the police and are working with a specialist data firm to try to identify the culprits.

"For anyone to think it's okay to write something like this is so shocking to me. I hope you are so ashamed of yourself," she wrote as she shared one of the direct messages.

On another she added: "I'm not sure what to even say but please guys, be more respectful. We are better than this."

BBC Sport has contacted the Metropolitan Police for comment.

The couple have been together since 2018 and got married last year with Sophia announcing in November that she was pregnant.

Source: BBC

 

[MK7Z]

Gooners are the worst fanbase in the world and it is not even close. A bunch of petulant, ignorant and impatient fans.

Arsenal today are in a better position than it has been for 20 years and the fans should be grateful and supportive.

The same fans who celebrated 4th place like a trophy for years are now acting like finishing 2nd three seasons in a row is a disaster. Absolutely ridiculous.

It is time to back Arteta in the market so that he can take Arsenal over the line. He is a world class manager and if the board does not back him now, he should walk away in a couple of years because he deserves better.

I agree with the last sentence. Apart from him being a world class manager. Everyone has an opinion and I respect yours and respectfully disagree as he has done nothing to be labelled a world class manager.

Also you have indirectly confirmed what other posters accuse of. Support Arteta over Arsenal. Surely you would want the world class manager to stay in any circumstance right? or he deserves better at another club? You will support that club if thats the case? Bizzare opinion but each to their own. Like Henry said. " I support Arsenal. I love Arsenal Arteta out in I dont care".

Seems the Arteta and Kai fan club is similar to the One Direction fan club.

 

[Mamoon]

I agree with the last sentence. Apart from him being a world class manager. Everyone has an opinion and I respect yours and respectfully disagree as he has done nothing to be labelled a world class manager.

Also you have indirectly confirmed what other posters accuse of. Support Arteta over Arsenal. Surely you would want the world class manager to stay in any circumstance right? or he deserves better at another club? You will support that club if thats the case? Bizzare opinion but each to their own. Like Henry said. " I support Arsenal. I love Arsenal Arteta out in I dont care".

Seems the Arteta and Kai fan club is similar to the One Direction fan club.

I support Arteta because I feel he is the right man for the job. The day I feel that he is not the right man or there is an available manager in the market who can do better than him, I will not support him. It is simple.

No one supports individuals before the club. That is a baseless accusation. Every single Arsenal fan on earth was an Arsenal fan before Arteta became the manager (or even became associated with the club in any capacity) and will remain an Arsenal fan after he is gone, so this idea that people are supporting him and not the club is totally wrong.

 

[MK7Z]

The wife of Arsenal striker Kai Havertz has shared screenshots of abuse she received on social media amid Sunday's FA Cup loss to Manchester United, including threats to the couple's unborn child.

The forward, 25, missed a glorious chance to win the game in normal time and then had his penalty saved by United keeper Altay Bayindir in the shootout as United won 5-3 on penalties following the 1-1 draw.

The German's wife Sophia posted to her Instagram story two direct messages she had received on the platform.

Arsenal have reported the abuse to the police and are working with a specialist data firm to try to identify the culprits.

"For anyone to think it's okay to write something like this is so shocking to me. I hope you are so ashamed of yourself," she wrote as she shared one of the direct messages.

On another she added: "I'm not sure what to even say but please guys, be more respectful. We are better than this."

BBC Sport has contacted the Metropolitan Police for comment.

The couple have been together since 2018 and got married last year with Sophia announcing in November that she was pregnant.

Source: BBC

Its always the ones with no profile picture and from a certain part of South Asia. Disgraceful behavior and they need to be held accountable for their horrible actions. Sad Sad people who are what is wrong with the world. Criticize someone but always be respectful. Its not hard. Their lack of education really does show

 

[MK7Z]

I support Arteta because I feel he is the right man for the job. The day I feel that he is not the right man or there is an available manager in the market who can do better than him, I will not support him. It is simple.

No one supports individuals before the club. That is a baseless accusation. Every single Arsenal fan on earth was an Arsenal fan before Arteta became the manager (or even became associated with the club in any capacity) and will remain an Arsenal fan after he is gone, so this idea that people are supporting him and not the club is totally wrong.

Why would you say he should leave and deserves better? Who is going to make him the highest paid manager in the world?

Who is going to treat him better than him being the 2nd highest paid manager in the world after not winning anything of note?

Like I said he is turning into the mouthpiece for his masters . 15 million a year is a lot of money. Do you think Madrid are going to pay him more than Ancelotti who has won numerous titles with them?

He is on almost 3 times what Kompany is on.

Twice as much as a Luis Enrique at PSG who has again lots of accolades.

Lets be honest. Mikel is loving life at Arsenal and he is not going anywhere cos he "deserves better". It aint gonna get better than this for him. Trust me

 

[Mamoon]

Why would you say he should leave and deserves better? Who is going to make him the highest paid manager in the world?

Who is going to treat him better than him being the 2nd highest paid manager in the world after not winning anything of note?

Like I said he is turning into the mouthpiece for his masters . 15 million a year is a lot of money. Do you think Madrid are going to pay him more than Ancelotti who has won numerous titles with them?

He is on almost 3 times what Kompany is on.

Twice as much as a Luis Enrique at PSG who has again lots of accolades.

Lets be honest. Mikel is loving life at Arsenal and he is not going anywhere cos he "deserves better". It aint gonna get better than this for him. Trust me

Most top level managers are not motivated by money alone. They want to win things in the top leagues.

If Arteta is all about money, he would go to Saudi where he can earn a lot more than what he is earning at Arsenal. Let’s not forget that he took a pay cut to join Arsenal from Everton.

If Arteta feels like he the board is not backing him, why should he waste his prime years at Arsenal? It is clear that he has huge potential and this potential can be fulfilled at other clubs too.

If he walks away because the board is not supporting him, I will be disappointed but I will not blame him. I would do the same if I were in his position.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Usual middle aged loser nonsense from the Arteta fan boy.

No trophies in 5 years, yet managers world class. Lay off the drugs and stop embarrassing urself as usual

 

[MK7Z]

If Arteta is all about money, he would go to Saudi where he can earn a lot more than what he is earning at Arsenal. Let’s not forget that he took a pay cut to join Arsenal from Everton.

He is the 2nd highest paid manager in the world after Pep. The highest paid manager in Saudi is on half of what he is on. So that is an absurd statement to say he would earn more in Saudi. Based on what? potential?

 

[MK7Z]

The above does not make good reading. If you take into account that we were a mess when he took over and allow the 1st couple of years. He has still had lots of time and money to at least win some sort of cup

 

[MK7Z]

I fully believe that if he gets the tools he needs to get the job done then he will succeed however the fact he has neglected the attack for some reason does not fill me with confidence. On top of that his change in the press conferences talking rubbish cooperate spiel has really turned me against him. I was on his side until then. But now he is on the Kroenke's side. So I cant back him

 

[MK7Z]

Remember when I said this manager was a fraud and you told Me, how is he and I was wrong to say it.

Now he's got his 15M contract and is the kronke shield.

This is exactly what I was alluding to all along, and could see this car crash miles away.

Most of this fan base support Arsenal like its watching a final destination movie. You have got on roller coaster, you know its going to crash and burn. Yet people still get on it, thinking its going to be a different ending.

You did - up until this season I still maintain he was doing well enough to keep his job. He got us to a position and level that we hadn't seen for a long time. Its all about trajectory. If it stagnates then I have said in the past things need to be assessed. I said he had to win a major at the end of this season a long time ago otherwise time to move on. I have not blindly backed him I have been fair with what we have produced over the last couple of years.

I expected us to sign a striker in 2023. We didnt. We did alrite in the season but still needed to sign a striker. They didnt - gross neglect.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I fully believe that if he gets the tools he needs to get the job done then he will succeed however the fact he has neglected the attack for some reason does not fill me with confidence. On top of that his change in the press conferences talking rubbish cooperate spiel has really turned me against him. I was on his side until then. But now he is on the Kroenke's side. So I cant back him

Fair point but many feel has been given the tools, ie plenty of money but doesnt know how to use them.

Artetas signings.

What would you rate out of 10 in new signings over the past 5 years?

Mikel Arteta - Purchased players

Diese Übersicht listet alle Spieler auf, die während aller Amtszeiten des Trainers Mikel Arteta verpflichtet wurden.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Have to say I was shocked to read how much he gets, that's quite staggering really

I do think he deserves credit for taking Arsenal from where did to challenging for the title but being paid not far off Pep is outrageous

 

[KingKhanWC]

Have to say I was shocked to read how much he gets, that's quite staggering really

I do think he deserves credit for taking Arsenal from where did to challenging for the title but being paid not far off Pep is outrageous

The pay rise is recent, after the start of this season. Mamoon stated if it was money, he would move to Saudi League but they play players high wages not managers. The most paid manager in Saudi is only on 8 million, Arteta is double this figure. The owners clearly love him and realise he will never criticise their running of the club.

 

[Mamoon]

He is the 2nd highest paid manager in the world after Pep. The highest paid manager in Saudi is on half of what he is on. So that is an absurd statement to say he would earn more in Saudi. Based on what? potential?

The pay rise is recent, after the start of this season. Mamoon stated if it was money, he would move to Saudi League but they play players high wages not managers. The most paid manager in Saudi is only on 8 million, Arteta is double this figure. The owners clearly love him and realise he will never criticise their running of the club.

No top manager in his prime is interesting in going to Saudi. The managers in Saudi league are not top tier and that is why they are not paid that much.

If Pep, Klopp, Arteta, Zidane, Conte, Simeone, Ancelotti etc. are willing to work in Saudi they will easily get paid more than what they are making in Europe.

So I object the notion that Arteta is at Arsenal for money.

 

[KingKhanWC]

No top manager in his prime is interesting in going to Saudi. The managers in Saudi league are not top tier and that is why they are not paid that much.

If Pep, Klopp, Arteta, Zidane, Conte, Simeone, Ancelotti etc. are willing to work in Saudi they will easily get paid more than what they are making in Europe.

So I object the notion that Arteta is at Arsenal for money.

Nuno went to Saudi. He may finish above Arsenal esp if they beat LFC tomorrow night!

Arteta is signed until 27 with a year extension. This is a huge commitment from any club inc Arsenal. He must win major trophies this season or next, if not he's gone imo.

 

[Mamoon]

Anyway, this would be the ideal summer window:

Out (sold/contract not renewed):
Jesus, Sterling, Kiwior, Jorginho, Trossard, Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Tierney, Partey

In:
Isak, a winger/CAM hybrid, two CMs, a CB and a LB.

 

[Mamoon]

Nuno went to Saudi. He may finish above Arsenal esp if they beat LFC tomorrow night!

Arteta is signed until 27 with a year extension. This is a huge commitment from any club inc Arsenal. He must win major trophies this season or next, if not he's gone imo.

Nuno is not a top manager. He went from Wolves to Spurs to Saudi to Nottingham and no big club came in for him.

He is one of those managers who is only good with humble clubs and low profile/pressure jobs.

Emery, Nuno, Potter etc. are all the same.

 

[Amjid Javed]

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The above does not make good reading. If you take into account that we were a mess when he took over and allow the 1st couple of years. He has still had lots of time and money to at least win some sort of cup

Wow amazing world class stats

No wonder he's on 15M a year

Trust the process guys

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Nuno is not a top manager. He went from Wolves to Spurs to Saudi to Nottingham and no big club came in for him.

He is one of those managers who is only good with humble clubs and low profile/pressure jobs.

Emery, Nuno, Potter etc. are all the same.

But but You think Arteta is cut from the same cloth as Pep and co

Which is delusional at its finest

 

[Cricket Warrior]

'Arsenal need a striker' - but who could they sign?

Arsenal's exit from the FA Cup on Sunday, losing on penalties to 10-man Manchester United, again highlighted a major weakness in their squad - the lack of a world class centre-forward.

The Gunners are second in the Premier League and are joint third top scorers on 39 from 20 games.

However, they are only sixth in terms of big chance conversion rate all season and eighth since 1 December. And they are the only side in the top six to not have a goalscorer in double figures.

Kai Havertz, who is playing the centre-forward role despite not being a natural number nine, is their top scorer in the league on seven.

And their shortcomings in front of goal have been ruthlessly exposed in their past two games in particular.

Arsenal had 23 shots but only three on target in their 2-0 League Cup semi-final first-leg defeat by Newcastle. They had seven on target from 26 shots against Manchester United, with their goal being a deflected effort from defender Gabriel.

They suffered another injury blow to an attacking player in that game, with Gabriel Jesus, by no means prolific but at least more of a natural fit through the central areas, taken off on a stretcher in the first half.

Former Arsenal and England forward Theo Walcott told BBC Sport: "It's like everyone else has said before. Arsenal need a striker at this time because it would have been a completely different story.

"Arsenal have gone from being a free-flowing forward line, exciting the crowd, to going a bit stale at Emirates Stadium. You need players to do something differently and they haven't got that at the moment."

Mikel Arteta has only one won trophy as Arsenal boss, the 2020 FA Cup, and Alan Shearer, the Premier League's all-time record scorer, believes the Gunners will miss out on silverware this season if they do not strengthen.

"I said it at the beginning of the season, I felt that's what they needed and I think that would possibly cost them the league not investing in that position," said Shearer.

Former Manchester City defender Micah Richards agreed, adding: "The difference between Arsenal winning the league or winning these ties is just a centre-forward.

"It's hard, you can't just go out and get a number nine, there's not that many in world football."

So who will Arsenal be looking at this transfer window? Here are nine number nines they could be after.

'Arsenal need a striker' - but who could they sign? Isak, Sesko, Delap, Osimhen, Vlahovic

As Arsenal continue to struggle in front of goal, BBC Sport look at what striker the Gunners could sign this month.

www.bbc.com

 

[Amjid Javed]

The amount of rubbish Arteta comes out with in press conferences and after games just shows he doesnt care and he's happy to take the hell out of this fan base. That's what a 15M contract with no accountability does.

For those thinking this guy is bigger than the club, shows how delusional and clueless people in this fan base are.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Now the delusionist thinks Arsenal are going to buy 6 players in the summer . Some serious A class drugs being consumed

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

No top manager in his prime is interesting in going to Saudi. The managers in Saudi league are not top tier and that is why they are not paid that much.

If Pep, Klopp, Arteta, Zidane, Conte, Simeone, Ancelotti etc. are willing to work in Saudi they will easily get paid more than what they are making in Europe.

So I object the notion that Arteta is at Arsenal for money.

I've defended Arteta in the past, think some of the criticism has been harsh especially when people downplay what he achieved (relatively speaking, going from 7th to title challengers is an achievement) but the way you put his name in that list of names is quite cheeky

What has he done to be worthy of being listed along those guys?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Now the delusionist thinks Arsenal are going to buy 6 players in the summer . Some serious A class drugs being consumed

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Arsenal can't afford Isak now

Where were they when he was as Sociedad?.

Arsenal is an investment for businessman and dodgy agents.

Ain't no title contender genuinely signs Havertz and overrated tat like Merino and Rice

 

[Amjid Javed]

I've defended Arteta in the past, think some of the criticism has been harsh especially when people downplay what he achieved (relatively speaking, going from 7th to title challengers is an achievement) but the way you put his name in that list of names is quite cheeky

What has he done to be worthy of being listed along those guys?

He put the cones out for Pep, that's the reason he's mentioned along side them

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal can't afford Isak now

Where were they when he was as Sociedad?.

Arsenal is an investment for businessman and dodgy agents.

Ain't no title contender genuinely signs Havertz and overrated tat like Merino and Rice

Relax, it’s Isak not prime Messi.

Newcastle fans or Arsenal haters in general are getting increasingly carried away with the whole narrative.

Arsenal should humble Newcastle and remind them where they stand in the food chain. Going from Newcastle to Arsenal is an upgrade for any player.

 

[Mamoon]

I've defended Arteta in the past, think some of the criticism has been harsh especially when people downplay what he achieved (relatively speaking, going from 7th to title challengers is an achievement) but the way you put his name in that list of names is quite cheeky

What has he done to be worthy of being listed along those guys?

It is very simple.

There are only a handful of managers who could have done what Arteta has done given the circumstances in which he took over.

He took over Arsenal when Arsenal were in one of the most complicated periods in the clubs history. They had hit rock bottom in more than one way. Awful performances on the pitch, broken relationship between the club and the fans, complete lack of ambition and standards and overage, lazy players on fat contracts.

The fact that he took Arsenal from where they were to where they are now whilst spending less money than Chelsea, United and City in the same period (and City already had a champion team in 2019) speaks volumes about his potential as a manager.

Moreover, the fact that he did all of this in his first managerial job makes it even more impressive and makes it clear that he belongs in the crème de la crème list of managers because the job that he has done would be highly impressive even for an experienced, seasoned manager.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I've defended Arteta in the past, think some of the criticism has been harsh especially when people downplay what he achieved (relatively speaking, going from 7th to title challengers is an achievement) but the way you put his name in that list of names is quite cheeky

What has he done to be worthy of being listed along those guys?

How is going from 8th to title challengers an achievement?

He took over a club which finished 5th the season before he took over. So essentially took the club backwards.

Yet people act as though Arsenal were regularly languishing in 8th before he took over.

The guy is no better than Brendan Rogers or pochetino, two other bottle job managers

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

It is very simple.

There are only a handful of managers who could have done what Arteta has done given the circumstances in which he took over.

He took over Arsenal when Arsenal were in one of the most complicated periods in the clubs history. They had hit rock bottom in more than one way. Awful performances on the pitch, broken relationship between the club and the fans, complete lack of ambition and standards and overage, lazy players on fat contracts.

The fact that he took Arsenal from where they were to where they are now whilst spending less money than Chelsea, United and City in the same period (and City already had a champion team in 2019) speaks volumes about his potential as a manager.

Moreover, the fact that he did all of this in his first managerial job makes it even more impressive and makes it clear that he belongs in the crème de la crème list of managers because the job that he has done would be highly impressive even for an experienced, seasoned manager.

Ah, if that is all it takes then I'll chuck Howe in that list as well because what he did with Bournemouth surpasses what Arteta did by a country mile, then you add in what he's done with us

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Relax, it’s Isak not prime Messi.

Newcastle fans or Arsenal haters in general are getting increasingly carried away with the whole narrative.

Arsenal should humble Newcastle and remind them where they stand in the food chain. Going from Newcastle to Arsenal is an upgrade for any player.

He's very good, now one of the best in the world.

Arsenal could get Jonathan David cheap, another underrated gem.

They probably should've signed Solanke.

Arsenal is an investment vehicle for the owners and dodgy agents

 

[Mamoon]

Ah, if that is all it takes then I'll chuck Howe in that list as well because what he did with Bournemouth surpasses what Arteta did by a country mile, then you add in what he's done with us

Taking a club from relegation to top 10 and taking a club from 8th to 2nd is different pressure. Eddie Howe hasn’t experienced the pressure of attempting to deliver the league title or to properly compete in the UCL.

A lot of managers are very good at managing clubs with humble expectations but get exposed when they land the big jobs. For example, Emery.

Having said that, I personally rate Howe highly and much more than I rate someone like Emery and Nuno. He was one of the managers I would have liked to see at Arsenal before Arteta took over.

 

[Mamoon]

He's very good, now one of the best in the world.

Arsenal could get Jonathan David cheap, another underrated gem.

They probably should've signed Solanke.

Arsenal is an investment vehicle for the owners and dodgy agents

Arsenal can afford Isak. As simple as that. If they could spend £105m for Rice, they can spend a similar amount on Isak.

However, every club has a valuation in mind. If Newcastle act unreasonably and put a price on him that is beyond Arsenal’s valuation, Arsenal will walk away. No problem. There is plenty of attacking talent around Europe.

It will be ultimately Newcastle’s loss. They will have to sell him eventually unless he is completely devoid of ambition which I don’t think he is, and if they don’t accept a £110-120m offer this summer, they will most likely be forced to sell him for much less in a year or so as his contract runs down.

So if Newcastle owners are sensible and have the greater interest of the club at heart, they will be open-minded about selling Isak for the above quoted range this summer and reinvest that money to boost the squad.

Newcastle can level up by selling Isak provided that they reinvest that money in 2-3 good players in different positions.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Arsenal can afford Isak. As simple as that. If they could spend £105m for Rice, they can spend a similar amount on Isak.

However, every club has a valuation in mind. If Newcastle act unreasonably and put a price on him that is beyond Arsenal’s valuation, Arsenal will walk away. No problem. There is plenty of attacking talent around Europe.

It will be ultimately Newcastle’s loss. They will have to sell him eventually unless he is completely devoid of ambition which I don’t think he is, and if they don’t accept a £110-120m offer this summer, they will most likely be forced to sell him for much less in a year or so as his contract runs down.

So if Newcastle owners are sensible and have the greater interest of the club at heart, they will be open-minded about selling Isak for the above quoted range this summer and reinvest that money to boost the squad.

Newcastle can level up by selling Isak provided that they reinvest that money in 2-3 good players in different positions.

I take issue with this, whatever price we attach to him is ultimately reasonable

You or any other club that wants to sign him may think otherwise but as the selling club we have every right to determine the price and it does not make us unreasonable

We don't owe Arsenal or any other club a damn thing. And just to be clear I'm fair and apply the same logic when it comes to players we want to sign. Palace had every right to ask what they did for Guehi, fwiw I was glad the deal didn't happen as he wasn't worth the reported £60m+

Also, I find the presumption from Arsenal fans all over on TV and Radio (on the drive to work I put the radio on and literally the first thing I hear is Piers Morgan talking about breaking the bank and go get Isak) quite absurd. There is absolutely zero indication he wants a move away from Newcastle and even less of an indication he wants to go to Arsenal

 

[MK7Z]

I take issue with this, whatever price we attach to him is ultimately reasonable

You or any other club that wants to sign him may think otherwise but as the selling club we have every right to determine the price and it does not make us unreasonable

We don't owe Arsenal or any other club a damn thing. And just to be clear I'm fair and apply the same logic when it comes to players we want to sign. Palace had every right to ask what they did for Guehi, fwiw I was glad the deal didn't happen as he wasn't worth the reported £60m+

Also, I find the presumption from Arsenal fans all over on TV and Radio (on the drive to work I put the radio on and literally the first thing I hear is Piers Morgan talking about breaking the bank and go get Isak) quite absurd. There is absolutely zero indication he wants a move away from Newcastle and even less of an indication he wants to go to Arsenal

You are right there is no indication but in football things change. I would hope Arsenal would test the waters and if he wants out then it may reduce the price a bit time will tell.

Ollie Watkins before Durans suspension was no longer 1st choice at Villa. I think Arsenal could try him. Big Arsenal fan to and I am pretty sure in an interview he has said its his dream to play for Arsenal or something along those lines. Things like this can help a transfer whereas with Isak you are right its just noise as he is the most in form striker.... Much like Ivan Toney a few years back and all the noise was Arsenal want Toney.

Isak is obviously thrice the player Toney was but you see my point.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

You are right there is no indication but in football things change. I would hope Arsenal would test the waters and if he wants out then it may reduce the price a bit time will tell.

Ollie Watkins before Durans suspension was no longer 1st choice at Villa. I think Arsenal could try him. Big Arsenal fan to and I am pretty sure in an interview he has said its his dream to play for Arsenal or something along those lines. Things like this can help a transfer whereas with Isak you are right its just noise as he is the most in form striker.... Much like Ivan Toney a few years back and all the noise was Arsenal want Toney.

Isak is obviously thrice the player Toney was but you see my point.

I don't disagree with what you say and tbf a lot of what I say isn't aimed at the more reasonable Arsenal fans, it's one thing to say like you have "Hope Arsenal test the water" or "We should make a bid"

It's the "Go get Isak" and "Break the bank and bring him to the Emirates" etc etc, as if he is just a product on a shelf that you pick up after paying a specific amount of money

I remember the conversation last summer with AJ around what he was worth, I actually said £100m was a minimum to a start a conversation but our position has strengthened since then, in that he's raised his level further and hopefully we get into Europe next season

And last summer I said that if it came down to it he'd pick Arsenal over Liverpool but as things stand today I can't see that being the case

Arsenal absolutely should be getting a striker and the sure fire way of doing that is going for those with a release clause (Gyokeres, Osimhen). For the price of an Isak you can get Osimhen and Lookman, that's the deal Arsenal should be doing

 

[Amjid Javed]

fairytale nonsense, nothing more then glorified bakwas to pedal the mediocrity story of fraudeta.

Your so called clueless nonsense about this clubs history is hilarious.

Arsensl being 5th the season before is supposedly rock-bottom?

Lazy players on big wages? Have you seen current wage bill?

All this nonsense just because you have a weird middleage crush on a loser manager that's achieved nothing

 

[Mamoon]

fairytale nonsense, nothing more then glorified bakwas to pedal the mediocrity story of fraudeta.

Your so called clueless nonsense about this clubs history is hilarious.

Arsensl being 5th the season before is supposedly rock-bottom?

Lazy players on big wages? Have you seen current wage bill?

All this nonsense just because you have a weird middleage crush on a loser manager that's achieved nothing

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Rubbish as usual.

Arsenal were 8th when Emery was sacked, and the current wage bill is high but also look at the position in the table. This lot is playing at a level those players couldn’t dream of. How often did they challenge for the title? 0 times.

 

[Amjid Javed]

For all those deluded enough to say the kronkes had changed since they took full ownership where are you all now?

Oh Arteta came in and fixed the wage bill he got rid of Auba, ozil, pepe, mustafi, kola, David Luiz

Feel free to let us know about the 2 at the club in havertz in Jesus who are highest paid players at club.

You think any Saudi club is going to pat 30-40M plus 250K wages for an injury prone Jesus?

You think any club is going be dumb enough to pay 50M and 300K for havert

Oh but we had mustafi, kola and luiz. We know have Tierney, crybaby and tomiyassu all on 100K+ a week that we won't be able to get rid off.

Oh but the fan base was toxic at end of the wenger era, have you seem the atmosphere after the Newcastle or Man united games?

See what happens if we lose to spurs or villa.

Then you have the Arteta fan boy with his prayer mat out, hoping we beat Villa so he can get a blue peter badge for Oh Arteta is better than emery.

The season is done, yet certain fans acting like Arteta time at Arsenal is some sort of fairytale story with happy ending.