Arsenal FC | 2024/25 Season

[Mamoon]

I take issue with this, whatever price we attach to him is ultimately reasonable

That is fair, but you also have to consider the fact that you have to part ways with Isak eventually.

He will not sign a new contract, you obviously wouldn’t want to let him go for free and his price is going to drop every window as his contract runs down.

Summer of 2025 is the perfect time to cash on him as he would still have 3 years left on the deal and you can command a £110-120m price which is very fair for a player of his talent, age and contract situation.

No one will pay more than £100m next summer for a player with 2 years left on his contract. In 2027, his price will drop further if he doesn’t extend his contract and in 2028, he will be a free agent.

Fans and clubs think differently. For your perspective, Isak shouldn’t be for sale this summer but from the club’s perspective, they will definitely be exploring the possibility.

Also, football is uncertain - who knows, God forbid, he suffers a career ending injury next season or worse, dies? Newcastle will end up getting nothing for a player they could have sold for £100m+.

Newcastle is not in a position to challenge for the league title any time soon. Therefore, it must swallow its price and be open-minded about selling Isak who has no reason to spend his prime at a club that at best will be fighting for a top 6 position.

Accept the £110-120m offer from Arsenal and reinvest that money to sustain or even improve your level if you make smart signings. Let Isak realize his potential at a club that is a level above Newcastle and fighting for the league.

Arsenal is not the only club for Isak and of course there are stronger clubs out there that Isak can dream of playing for, but realistically, when you look at the number of clubs who can spend that kind of money and also need a striker next summer, the list isn’t very long, so Arsenal in this moment is the ideal destination for him.

It is a win-win situation for all three parties but Newcastle must put its ego at bay like West Ham did in spite of dragging its feet initially.

 

[Mamoon]

For all those deluded enough to say the kronkes had changed since they took full ownership where are you all now?

Oh Arteta came in and fixed the wage bill he got rid of Auba, ozil, pepe, mustafi, kola, David Luiz

Feel free to let us know about the 2 at the club in havertz in Jesus who are highest paid players at club.

You think any Saudi club is going to pat 30-40M plus 250K wages for an injury prone Jesus?

You think any club is going be dumb enough to pay 50M and 300K for havert

Oh but we had mustafi, kola and luiz. We know have Tierney, crybaby and tomiyassu all on 100K+ a week that we won't be able to get rid off.

Oh but the fan base was toxic at end of the wenger era, have you seem the atmosphere after the Newcastle or Man united games?

See what happens if we lose to spurs or villa.

Then you have the Arteta fan boy with his prayer mat out, hoping we beat Villa so he can get a blue peter badge for Oh Arteta is better than emery.

The season is done, yet certain fans acting like Arteta time at Arsenal is some sort of fairytale story with happy ending.

The Kroenke’s sanctioned a £105m transfer for a defensive midfielder when ignorant and toxic haters like you claimed that City would easily beat Arsenal to his transfer because the Arsenal owners lack ambition

However, the club is in a difficult moment now and they must back Arteta again next summer and break the club record transfer for Isak.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

That is fair, but you also have to consider the fact that you have to part ways with Isak eventually.

He will not sign a new contract, you obviously wouldn’t want to let him go for free and his price is going to drop every window as his contract runs down.

Summer of 2025 is the perfect time to cash on him as he would still have 3 years left on the deal and you can command a £110-120m price which is very fair for a player of his talent, age and contract situation.

No one will pay more than £100m next summer for a player with 2 years left on his contract. In 2027, his price will drop further if he doesn’t extend his contract and in 2028, he will be a free agent.

Fans and clubs think differently. For your perspective, Isak shouldn’t be for sale this summer but from the club’s perspective, they will definitely be exploring the possibility.

Also, football is uncertain - who knows, God forbid, he suffers a career ending injury next season or worse, dies? Newcastle will end up getting nothing for a player they could have sold for £100m+.

Newcastle is not in a position to challenge for the league title any time soon. Therefore, it must swallow its price and be open-minded about selling Isak who has no reason to spend his prime at a club that at best will be fighting for a top 6 position.

Accept the £110-120m offer from Arsenal and reinvest that money to sustain or even improve your level if you make smart signings. Let Isak realize his potential at a club that is a level above Newcastle and fighting for the league.

Arsenal is not the only club for Isak and of course there are stronger clubs out there that Isak can dream of playing for, but realistically, when you look at the number of clubs who can spend that kind of money and also need a striker next summer, the list isn’t very long, so Arsenal in this moment is the ideal destination for him.

It is a win-win situation for all three parties but Newcastle must put its ego at bay like West Ham did in spite of dragging its feet initially.

There's so much to unpick but I'll address this one for now, you paid £105m for a midfielder that had 2 years left on his contract so this idea that his value would drop with having 2 years left is just not true

Harry Kane had 12 months left on his contract and he was 30 yet he went for £100m

If Isak indicates he wants to leave (which he hasn't done at this moment) then 2026 is the time to sell, selling this summer would be foolish and unnecessary

 

[Amjid Javed]

So Arsenal are going to spend 120M on isak, plus his wages (currently 120K) so he can more than likely demand 200K+

And Same thinks kronkes are going to sign 5 or 6 players in summer

At same time sell trash like Jesus, Tomiyasu etc..

What ever drugs your on, go get some medical help



Isak if he left should look at Liverpool as possible salah replacement if he leaves or go to Chelsea as an upgrade on Jackson

Why would anyone join a clueless manager who hasn't won a trophy for 5 years.

If I was saliba, Gabriel or saka I'd be looking to leave and go win trophies as your careers deserve it.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

So Arsenal are going to spend 120M on isak, plus his wages (currently 120K) so he can more than likely demand 200K+

And Same thinks kronkes are going to sign 5 or 6 players in summer

At same time sell trash like Jesus, Tomiyasu etc..

What ever drugs your on, go get some medical help



Isak if he left should look at Liverpool as possible salah replacement if he leaves or go to Chelsea as an upgrade on Jackson

Why would anyone join a clueless manager who hasn't won a trophy for 5 years.

If I was saliba, Gabriel or saka I'd be looking to leave and go win trophies as your careers deserve it.

If say Isak wanted to leave and Arsenal had a bid accepted, if I'm Isak the first thing I'm demanding is minimum 50k+ on top of what Havertz is being paid

That salary for Havertz is massively damaging to the club because when it comes to contract renewals and new signings that's the standard set

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Looks like Jesus has unfortunately done his ACL, so won't be selling him anytime soon to raise funds

 

[MK7Z]

Arsenal absolutely should be getting a striker and the sure fire way of doing that is going for those with a release clause (Gyokeres, Osimhen). For the price of an Isak you can get Osimhen and Lookman, that's the deal Arsenal should be doing

EXACTLY. That is the issue. Its always next summer for Arsenal when it comes to signings so we are always behind. Players you mention would all improve our current team. Bottom line is they dont really want to spend, but lets see its their job to convince this is not the case by making the signing.

I also think that Arteta would not sign Osimhen cos he is to much of a personality for him to handle. I got the Toney one that he was a bit of a so and so and not really worth his own hype but Osimhen is a difference maker and if he scores goals I dont care if he has a bit of an edge. Trust me when I say he would rather play in the PL than the Turkish league.

 

[Amjid Javed]

If say Isak wanted to leave and Arsenal had a bid accepted, if I'm Isak the first thing I'm demanding is minimum 50k+ on top of what Havertz is being paid

That salary for Havertz is massively damaging to the club because when it comes to contract renewals and new signings that's the standard set

Exactly, when you have two of the biggest in PL history in havertz and Jesus on high wages, then an top player joining will want same.

But according to Arteta fan boys, the rubbish players on high wages has been fixed

 

[Mamoon]

There's so much to unpick but I'll address this one for now, you paid £105m for a midfielder that had 2 years left on his contract so this idea that his value would drop with having 2 years left is just not true

Harry Kane had 12 months left on his contract and he was 30 yet he went for £100m

If Isak indicates he wants to leave (which he hasn't done at this moment) then 2026 is the time to sell, selling this summer would be foolish and unnecessary

Rice is English so his price was inflated. You have to pay the English premium. If he was a Swede like Isak, his price tag would be around £70-80m.

Kane left for Bayern when he was a proven world class performer in the prime of his career without any injury concerns.

Isak historically has a dodgy fitness record and this is the first season (and we are only in Jan) where he is playing like a world class striker and not someone who is more about potential than actual output.

Isak has never scored more than 25 goals in a season. He was also a flop in the UCL last season. The price that I am quoting (£110-120m) is very fair all things considered. Newcastle should not act in poor faith.

 

[Mamoon]

So Arsenal are going to spend 120M on isak, plus his wages (currently 120K) so he can more than likely demand 200K+

And Same thinks kronkes are going to sign 5 or 6 players in summer

At same time sell trash like Jesus, Tomiyasu etc..

What ever drugs your on, go get some medical help



Isak if he left should look at Liverpool as possible salah replacement if he leaves or go to Chelsea as an upgrade on Jackson

Why would anyone join a clueless manager who hasn't won a trophy for 5 years.

If I was saliba, Gabriel or saka I'd be looking to leave and go win trophies as your careers deserve it.

Nonsense.

Arsenal can easily afford Isak’s fee and wages. In addition, there are 8-9 players at the club who are surplus to requirements now. If Arsenal offload them, they can easily manage their wage bill.

The squad needs to be trimmed off the numerous players who barely play anymore.

 

[Mamoon]

Isak LW, Havertz CF, Saka RW is a title winning front three.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Isak LW, Havertz CF, Saka RW is a title winning front three.

Havertz is NOT A CENTER FORWARD. His best position is CAM .

Nagelsmann a far better coach than Arteta doesn't agree .

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Rice is English so his price was inflated. You have to pay the English premium. If he was a Swede like Isak, his price tag would be around £70-80m.

Kane left for Bayern when he was a proven world class performer in the prime of his career without any injury concerns.

Isak historically has a dodgy fitness record and this is the first season (and we are only in Jan) where he is playing like a world class striker and not someone who is more about potential than actual output.

Isak has never scored more than 25 goals in a season. He was also a flop in the UCL last season. The price that I am quoting (£110-120m) is very fair all things considered. Newcastle should not act in poor faith.

Rice being English is offset by Isak being a striker, they always carry a premium

As for Kane not having injury concerns, that's simply not true, he's had ankle problems for a number of seasons now

As for Newcastle, we should act however we deem fit. We don't owe you a single thing, our priority is what works best for us

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Isak LW, Havertz CF, Saka RW is a title winning front three.

Isak can do a job at LW here and there but he's not a LW and especially punting him there so Havertz of all people can play CF is absurd

 

[Amjid Javed]

Zero ball knowledge bakwas as usual

A bottle job 300K week player is going to win a title

 

[Amjid Javed]

Only nonsense is repeat clueless bakwas that you keep posting.

Your that deluded thar you think Arsenal are going to buy 5 or 6 players in summer and offload 8 or 9. Failed players, injury prone players.

Yet your out here with your pants down thinking Arteta fixed the wage bill.

Absolutely clueless as usual.

All the rotten eggs and tomatoes your getting this season are well deserved

 

[Amjid Javed]

EXACTLY. That is the issue. Its always next summer for Arsenal when it comes to signings so we are always behind. Players you mention would all improve our current team. Bottom line is they dont really want to spend, but lets see its their job to convince this is not the case by making the signing.

I also think that Arteta would not sign Osimhen cos he is to much of a personality for him to handle. I got the Toney one that he was a bit of a so and so and not really worth his own hype but Osimhen is a difference maker and if he scores goals I dont care if he has a bit of an edge. Trust me when I say he would rather play in the PL than the Turkish league.

Arteta just wants little bottle who say yes mikel, how high mikel.

The dressing room is full of weak poor mentality players to scared to call manager out.

There are people thar think other big clubs are after Arteta. No other big club dressing room would put up with his pathetic micromanagement, nor would any big club put up with 5 years of failure

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

According to Ornstein Arsenal are working on trying to sign Zubimendi.

Good player but why is Arteta allergic to signing a striker?

 

[KingKhanWC]

According to Ornstein Arsenal are working on trying to sign Zubimendi.

Good player but why is Arteta allergic to signing a striker?

Havertz and ego.

Arsenal board gave him the £ to buy what he considers is an elite striker, he choose Kai Havertz. For Arteta to drop him and spend another 70m this will be a failure on his part. Or the board will not allow him more £ to buy another striker, he has to make Havertz in to Drogba now.

Havertz will only NOT be the main striker if and when Arteta leaves. Arsenal are stuck with him, this talk of Isak is pie in the sky , not going to happen while Michael is there.

 

[Amjid Javed]

According to Ornstein Arsenal are working on trying to sign Zubimendi.

Good player but why is Arteta allergic to signing a striker?

Because he's clueless, no creativity or clinical edge in team, but he's still looking to play haram terrorist dark art football

 

[Amjid Javed]

Havertz and ego.

Arsenal board gave him the £ to buy what he considers is an elite striker, he choose Kai Havertz. For Arteta to drop him and spend another 70m this will be a failure on his part. Or the board will not allow him more £ to buy another striker, he has to make Havertz in to Drogba now.

Havertz will only NOT be the main striker if and when Arteta leaves. Arsenal are stuck with him, this talk of Isak is pie in the sky , not going to happen while Michael is there.

Won't be shocked if havertz has a clause in contract where if fit, he has to play a certain number of games.

We saw these clauses in bellerin, xhaka and willian contracts. This is how the retards running this club operate

 

[KingKhanWC]

Won't be shocked if havertz has a clause in contract where if fit, he has to play a certain number of games.

We saw these clauses in bellerin, xhaka and willian contracts. This is how the retards running this club operate

This would be utter madness for any club wanting to win a major trophy. If a player is off form, like Havertz is now, must be dropped. Ive heard of such contracts but in the modern game they are very very rare.

There are only 3 situations where Arsenal will move to a new striker.

1. Havertz sustains a long term injury.

2. He and his family become sick of the abuse and request a transfer.

3. Arteta is sacked.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Looks like Jesus has unfortunately done his ACL, so won't be selling him anytime soon to raise funds

No one was looking to sign Jesus anyways, no one would be dumb enough to sign a striker for 40M, 250K wages and they can stay fit

Yet another poor transfer from Fraudeta

 

[Mamoon]

No one was looking to sign Jesus anyways, no one would be dumb enough to sign a striker for 40M, 250K wages and they can stay fit

Yet another poor transfer from Fraudeta

Typical ignorant hot take.

Jesus was a very good signing fora team that was fighting for top 4. It was an excellent buy at the time. However, Arsenal outgrew him quickly because the level increased from top 4 contender to title contender.

Jesus doesn’t belong in a title contender team, but he is more than good enough for a team fighting for the top 4/6.

 

[Mamoon]

This would be utter madness for any club wanting to win a major trophy. If a player is off form, like Havertz is now, must be dropped. Ive heard of such contracts but in the modern game they are very very rare.

There are only 3 situations where Arsenal will move to a new striker.

1. Havertz sustains a long term injury.

2. He and his family become sick of the abuse and request a transfer.

3. Arteta is sacked.

Arsenal will sign a new striker in the summer, but there is also a possibility to sign a striker on loan this month. Nonetheless, they will spend money on a striker in the summer to replace Jesus.

Havertz will not be sold. He provides a lot of tactical flexibility and his contribution to the team goes beyond number of goals.

Arsenal need both Havertz and a new striker to win the league next season.

 

[Mamoon]

Good player but why is Arteta allergic to signing a striker?

He will sign Isak in the summer

#14 is waiting for him. He will be loved and cherished at Arsenal and will be given a platform where his goals can result in a title win.

Theo Walcott and Nketiah disgraced the #14. Isak will do justice to the number.

 

[Mamoon]

Zero ball knowledge bakwas as usual

A bottle job 300K week player is going to win a title

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Arsenal scored 91 goals and achieved 89 points in the league last season with Havertz upfront. That is title winning performance, they were just unlucky to miss out by 2 points only.

Martinelli’s poor form had a big role in Arsenal not winning the league, so it is definitely possible to win the league with Havertz upfront if someone like Iaak is signed, who can easily slot in on the left.

 

[MK7Z]

I could be shameless and roast Liverpool if Zubimendi joins Arsenal after REJECTING big LiverNOpull however i will hold fire cos cant really banter a team who is sitting pretty at the top of the league.

 

[Mamoon]

Raya
Calafiori/Timber
Gabriel
Saliba
Timber/White
Rice
Zubimendi/Merino
Odegaard
Isak
Havertz
Saka

This is title winning team. Zubimendi is a top acquisition. He is one of the best players in Europe in his position.

Yet another player who has rejected Liverpool and this time in favor of Arsenal.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenal will sign a new striker in the summer, but there is also a possibility to sign a striker on loan this month. Nonetheless, they will spend money on a striker in the summer to replace Jesus.

Havertz will not be sold. He provides a lot of tactical flexibility and his contribution to the team goes beyond number of goals.

Arsenal need both Havertz and a new striker to win the league next season.

Why are you waiting until the summer? You were one man up v Utd, needed a goal but had nobody on the bench?

 

[Amjid Javed]

I could be shameless and roast Liverpool if Zubimendi joins Arsenal after REJECTING big LiverNOpull however i will hold fire cos cant really banter a team who is sitting pretty at the top of the league.

All we need now is another goal keepers and another injury prone left back signing this window.

Maybe a another Dog and call it "f all"

 

[KingKhanWC]

I could be shameless and roast Liverpool if Zubimendi joins Arsenal after REJECTING big LiverNOpull however i will hold fire cos cant really banter a team who is sitting pretty at the top of the league.

Last summer his wife didnt want to move. He has changed his mind in this transfer window but Liverpool dont seem to be interested. We dont really need another midfielder with Curtis and Harvey playing very well atm.

He would be a good signing for Arsenal esp when Partey is made to play at the back.

 

[MK7Z]

Last summer his wife didnt want to move. He has changed his mind in this transfer window but Liverpool dont seem to be interested. We dont really need another midfielder with Curtis and Harvey playing very well atm.

He would be a good signing for Arsenal esp when Partey is made to play at the back.

his wife . I think you already used that one for Alexis Sanchez back in the day and it turned out he was not even married

 

[Mamoon]

Why are you waiting until the summer? You were one man up v Utd, needed a goal but had nobody on the bench?

It is difficult to do business in January as most clubs are reluctant to sell top players in this window. It is better to wait until the summer than do a panic buy in January, but a loan deal for someone like Vlahovic can be explored.

This season is gone anyway unless Liverpool bottle it, so panic buys are not required.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Its do - or die for Arteta. If he doesn't bring in a center forward in this transfer period and Arsenal go through another Trophy - less season, he is history.

 

[KingKhanWC]

his wife . I think you already used that one for Alexis Sanchez back in the day and it turned out he was not even married

Wife, family etc. Its not an excuse and please think bro, why would he refuse LFC for Arsenal who are not looking any better winning anything today, as you were 5 years ago.

Why Martin Zubimendi turned down Liverpool for 'family': Exclusive interview

If anyone can understand Martin Zubimendi’s decision to turn down Liverpool’s advances this summer in favour of staying at Real Sociedad, it’s Asier Illarramendi.

www.football365.com

LFC dont need him now. I hope Arsenal sign him, you need some players in the mid.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

He will sign Isak in the summer

#14 is waiting for him. He will be loved and cherished at Arsenal and will be given a platform where his goals can result in a title win.

Theo Walcott and Nketiah disgraced the #14. Isak will do justice to the number.

You've just said he will play him LW

Which begs the question, why is he allergic to signing a proper striker and playing him as a striker?

 

[Mamoon]

It’s do - or die for Arteta. If he doesn't bring in a center forward in this transfer period and Arsenal go through another Trophy - less season, he is history.

Ignorant fans have been calling for his head since 2020 and here we are. You lot don’t get to decide his future.

Arteta is world class and will win multiple league titles for Arsenal provided that he is backed in the market.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It is difficult to do business in January as most clubs are reluctant to sell top players in this window. It is better to wait until the summer than do a panic buy in January, but a loan deal for someone like Vlahovic can be explored.

This season is gone anyway unless Liverpool bottle it, so panic buys are not required.

Last week you stated Arsenal are in the title race , now back out of it.

No its not, many top players have moved in Jan. Of course it depends on availability and the club finances. Get any decent goalscorer , loan or buy.

If you keep pushing glory back a year , every year, we will all have grey hair like Wenger.

 

[Mamoon]

You've just said he will play him LW

Which begs the question, why is he allergic to signing a proper striker and playing him as a striker?

Havertz works really well at CF. He presses, tracks back, wins headers in both boxes, holds up play. He does a lot of good things that are not always reflected in stats.

Yes he is not prolific in front of goal, but he still scores a decent number of goals for a non-prolific striker and last season showed that it is possible to win the league with him up front. 91 goals and 89 points wins you the league in most seasons.

The real issue is that Martinelli is not good enough and a wide forward is the hour of the need and there are not many prolific goal scoring wide forwards in the market.

Isak might prefer to play at 9 but he can do a really good job on the left as well, at least much better than Martinelli.

Arsenal’s attacking shortcomings will not be addressed unless Martinelli is removed from the team. He is the biggest problem not Havertz.

 

[Mamoon]

Last week you stated Arsenal are in the title race , now back out of it.

No its not, many top players have moved in Jan. Of course it depends on availability and the club finances. Get any decent goalscorer , loan or buy.

If you keep pushing glory back a year , every year, we will all have grey hair like Wenger.

I said the same last week that it is not in Arsenal’s hands because Liverpool have a sizable lead. Liverpool will have to drop off for Arsenal to win the league.

So Arsenal is in a title race but not in control of it. If Liverpool don’t collapse, congratulations. If they do, Arsenal must be ready to pounce.

The prime target is Isak and Newcastle will not do business in January. The ideal situation would be to get someone like Vlahovic on loan until the end of season and then break the transfer record for Isak.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Havertz works really well at CF. He presses, tracks back, wins headers in both boxes, holds up play. He does a lot of good things that are not always reflected in stats.

Yes he is not prolific in front of goal, but he still scores a decent number of goals for a non-prolific striker and last season showed that it is possible to win the league with him up front. 91 goals and 89 points wins you the league in most seasons.

The real issue is that Martinelli is not good enough and a wide forward is the hour of the need and there are not many prolific goal scoring wide forwards in the market.

Isak might prefer to play at 9 but he can do a really good job on the left as well, at least much better than Martinelli.

Arsenal’s attacking shortcomings will not be addressed unless Martinelli is removed from the team. He is the biggest problem not Havertz.

I do agree with this, he isn't good enough

However there's not a chance Isak gets signed to play as a LW, he doesn't have the work rate or the natural desire to do that role

Only time he's played there for us is towards the end of games when we have brought Wilson on when chasing a game or just a temporary tactical switch during a game

Not that he's for a sale or leaving but if Arsenal need a LW then Gordon would be the better option as he's a far superior LW than Isak, it's just as a CF Isak is a different level

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Ignorant fans have been calling for his head since 2020 and here we are. You lot don’t get to decide his future.

Arteta is world class and will win multiple league titles for Arsenal provided that he is backed in the market.

World class! Based on what?

One FA cup win in five seasons with 700 million spent, tells me he's clueless

 

[MK7Z]

Wife, family etc. Its not an excuse and please think bro, why would he refuse LFC for Arsenal who are not looking any better winning anything today, as you were 5 years ago.

Why Martin Zubimendi turned down Liverpool for 'family': Exclusive interview

If anyone can understand Martin Zubimendi’s decision to turn down Liverpool’s advances this summer in favour of staying at Real Sociedad, it’s Asier Illarramendi.

www.football365.com

LFC dont need him now. I hope Arsenal sign him, you need some players in the mid.

I just scim read that. I don't take anything football365 post seriously however still looked through and could not find a single quote from Zubamendi or his family saying what you said.

 

[Mamoon]

World class! Based on what?

One FA cup win in five seasons with 700 million spent, tells me he's clueless

Domestic cups backed by league failure mean nothing. Last two seasons of Arsenal were better than any of the 4 FA Cup winning seasons between 2013-2020.

They were also better than Ten Hag’s two seasons even though he won two cups. That is why he got sacked.

Arteta has proved his chops by transforming Arsenal from team struggling to stay in the top 8 to a team going toe to toe with City to win the league whilst spending less £ than City, Chelsea and United in the same period.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I just scim read that. I don't take anything football365 post seriously however still looked through and could not find a single quote from Zubamendi or his family saying what you said.

Ive read last summer but if you actually believe he didnt want LFC but would prefer Arsenal, your choice.

Back to your team. Do you want him or do you not rate him?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I said the same last week that it is not in Arsenal’s hands because Liverpool have a sizable lead. Liverpool will have to drop off for Arsenal to win the league.

So Arsenal is in a title race but not in control of it. If Liverpool don’t collapse, congratulations. If they do, Arsenal must be ready to pounce.

The prime target is Isak and Newcastle will not do business in January. The ideal situation would be to get someone like Vlahovic on loan until the end of season and then break the transfer record for Isak.

So Arsenal are in it, as anything can happen in football. Arsenal previously had 50 points by Xmas/New Year but failed, LFC has less atm.

Isak and Newcastle have shown nothing in terms or him leaving for anywhere let alone Arsenal. These are tabloid reports to sell papers, you're not getting him now or in the summer.

 

[MK7Z]

Ive read last summer but if you actually believe he didnt want LFC but would prefer Arsenal, your choice.

Back to your team. Do you want him or do you not rate him?

Yes i rate him but to be honest we are next season FC so this does not excite me in this moment in time.

Its not what i believe its what we know. He rejected Liverpool thats factual. What his reason was its not what you state unless evidenced. Its copium but its fine we have discussed this in the past that players regularly reject Liverpool after you questioned Arsenal's pull.

To be honest it doesnt matter as you are well on the way to the PL title so whatever you currently had seems to have worked.

 

[Mamoon]

So Arsenal are in it, as anything can happen in football. Arsenal previously had 50 points by Xmas/New Year but failed, LFC has less atm.

Isak and Newcastle have shown nothing in terms or him leaving for anywhere let alone Arsenal. These are tabloid reports to sell papers, you're not getting him now or in the summer.

Newcastle are not actively looking to sell but they know that they will have to part ways with him at some point as he is too good for their level.

Isak’s head will turn when Arsenal offer him a contract. I would say that Arsenal have an 85% chance of signing if they actively pursue him in the summer which they probably will given Arteta’s comments on him. He is a huge fan of Isak.

 

[MK7Z]

Also an important thing to note is this is a major PR move by Arsenal. After the week we have had lets get fans excited by leaking news of a big summer signing to stop the negative noise

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arteta rent boy fan club chairmen continues with his world class nonsense

Arteta, Odegaard and havertz all world class failures

Most of all you are world class clueless ball knowledge merchant

 

[Amjid Javed]

Lay off the drugs and go seek help on your delusion.

So now trophyless seasons are better than winning trophies

All this nonsense so you can have you pants and worship your messiah

 

[Amjid Javed]

Imagine making up lies like Arsenal were struggling to stay in top 8, just to push the Arteta love feast

Desperation at its finest

Arsenal never finished below 6th under wenger and finished 5th in Emery only full season

Middle age clueless ball knowledge merchant embarrassing himself yet again

 

[Amjid Javed]

Also an important thing to note is this is a major PR move by Arsenal. After the week we have had lets get fans excited by leaking news of a big summer signing to stop the negative noise

Don't worry ticket prices will go up and plenty new merchandise on its way

 

[KingKhanWC]

Newcastle are not actively looking to sell but they know that they will have to part ways with him at some point as he is too good for their level.

Isak’s head will turn when Arsenal offer him a contract. I would say that Arsenal have an 85% chance of signing if they actively pursue him in the summer which they probably will given Arteta’s comments on him. He is a huge fan of Isak.

We will have to see.

Villa have bought Donyell Malen from Dortmund, he's a striker from Holland who scored 13 goals last season and only 25. Its too early to say he will be a huge success at Villa but this kid was at Arsenal as a youth player.

It begs the question, why is Arsenal struggling to bring through youth team players, very rarely now? Is Michael Arteta not looking at this ?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Be excited guys Josh kronke has flown into London especially to spin out some PR for the summer.

Everyone do what Peshawari jimmy hill is doing and bend over for these owners

 

[Amjid Javed]

So supposedly Arsenal had lazy players like Auba and ozil on huge wages.

But current this is what So called world class players and highest paid player gives you.

If anyone wants to know who you shouldn't take drugs, see the below

 

[Mamoon]

We will have to see.

Villa have bought Donyell Malen from Dortmund, he's a striker from Holland who scored 13 goals last season and only 25. Its too early to say he will be a huge success at Villa but this kid was at Arsenal as a youth player.

It begs the question, why is Arsenal struggling to bring through youth team players, very rarely now? Is Michael Arteta not looking at this ?

I don’t know who “Michael” Arteta is?

Struggling to bring through youth players? Did he steal Ethan Nwaneri from Liverpool academy?

 

[Mamoon]

Lay off the drugs and go seek help on your delusion.

So now trophyless seasons are better than winning trophies

All this nonsense so you can have you pants and worship your messiah

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You seem incapable of understand but no problem, I will keep trying.

As I have educated you many times, winning domestic cups when you are failing in the league don’t mean anything.

This is why Wenger got hounded out of the club even though he won 3 FA Cups in his last 4 years.

The only litmus test of how good or bad a club is doing is league performance. Winning FA Cup or League Cup does not mask league failure. They are after all cup competitions and cup competitions do not do a good job in separating the wheat from the chaff.

You can have a terrible season in the league and still win the FA or League Cup. Does it make the season a success? Absolutely not.

The fact that Ten Hag got the boot after winning two cups in two seasons proves my point. For a club like United, winning domestic cups mean nothing when you’re not challenging for the league.

Ten Hag would still be United manager if he did in his two seasons what Arteta did in his previous two seasons, i.e. compete for the league title.

Finishing second while being in contention to win the league and not winning a cup is better than finishing 4th, not competing to win the league and winning a domestic cup.

 

[Mamoon]

So supposedly Arsenal had lazy players like Auba and ozil on huge wages.

But current this is what So called world class players and highest paid player gives you.

If anyone wants to know who you shouldn't take drugs, see the below

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Current highest paid players gave you 89 points in 38 matches. Ozil and Aubameyang and others couldn’t get past 79 points even once in their Arsenal careers.

Arteta’s post 2022 Arsenal wipes the floor with any Wenger’s team post 2008.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Peshawari Jimmy Hill rewriting history so he can continue his fairy tale story of the messiah. Is sort of thing ud get from a 5 year old.

Fraudeta is same level as Rogers and Pochettino a bottle job manager.

I don't need educating by a clueless zero ball knowledge merchant whose every prediction on Arsenal winning titles has be met with humble pie, rotten eggs and tomatoes.

All big clubs are big clubs based on trophies they win. Now all off a sudden bottling league titles is bigger than winning trophies. This season will end trophyless. Next season you will repeat same bakwas, then roll out same excuses.

Only thing havertz did was bottle the CL, FA cup and Villa (home) and Man city (Away) PL games.

Elite players get teams over the line.

89 points is irrelevant, Arsenal were empty handed, just like your empty predictions.

No one gives a **** who finished 2nd in league, unless your a loser like you. Go educate yourself on how to be dignified, instead of getting your pants taken down every season with your clueless predictions

All your hypothetical Artetas team would do this, that and the other to teams in past is hilarious.

The fact your delusion and can only come up with hypothetical nonsense, rather than fact shows once again your zero credibility.

You talk about club standards yet your celebrating winning Jack

Current highest paid players gave you 89 points in 38 matches. Ozil and Aubameyang and others couldn’t get past 79 points even once in their Arsenal careers.

Arteta’s post 2022 Arsenal wipes the floor with any Wenger’s team post 2008.

 

[Mamoon]

Anyone deluded enough to think Man city or Chelsea won't look to strengthen in January, super duper Arsenal are only team capable of catching Liverpool should lay off the drugs.

The last nail in the Arteta / trust the process coffin will be if "in the mud" Chelsea finish above Arsenal.

The arrogance of some in this fans thinking that it was their divine right to take advantage if man city slipped up and others didn't is another slap of reality

0 ball knowledge exposed again.

Chelsea drop further points. But but but Maresca is better than Arteta. But but but Chelsea will finish above Arsenal.

Chelsea’s fluke run is over. They are nowhere near Arsenal. Looks like your prayers for Chelsea finishing above Arsenal will not be answered.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Only ball knowledge exposed is your usual bakwas..

But but Arteta win 2 out of the next 3,4,5 titles.. how many times you put that bold claim only to be humilated.

5 years without a trophy and the best you can come up with is celebrating a Chelsea draw in a week where Arteta has been humilated and gone out of 2 competitions and will end season trophyless.

Only some one as deluded and clueless as you would celebrate something of zero significance.

Come back when Arteta actually wins a title. Rather then they Hypothetical scenarios where you seem to get a hard on over failure.

Absolutely embarrassing

 

[The_KING]

The amount of rubbish Arteta comes out with in press conferences and after games just shows he doesnt care and he's happy to take the hell out of this fan base. That's what a 15M contract with no accountability does.

For those thinking this guy is bigger than the club, shows how delusional and clueless people in this fan base are.

He seems like another shield for the Kronkees just like Wenger was in his final years as a manager.

But at least, Wenger was a great manager and had credit in the bank. This Arteta guy is conning the delusional into thinking that he is some elite manager when he isn’t.

 

[Amjid Javed]

He seems like another shield for the Kronkees just like Wenger was in his final years as a manager.

But at least, Wenger was a great manager and had credit in the bank. This Arteta guy is conning the delusional into thinking that he is some elite manager when he isn’t.

When you have fans with zero standards like peshawari Jimmy Hill and other toxic positive fans thats a result of them accepting the lack of Ambition from the owner. All their sports franchise are failures. As far as Arsenal go they just need a puppet to pay in Arteta.

Sadly this fan base act like the club only existed 5 years ago when Arteta took over. This is current breed of Arsenal fan, they will over hype mediocrity in order to feel like they are super fan.

Delusion manager and sadly alot of delusional fans, some have finally started to see a sense of reality but it's all a little to late.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@topspin you coming out of hiding yet? Or you and super scout looking for excuses..

But but you have an odegard agenda

But but havertz Is world class

But but Arsenal are favourites for CL..

Not even Peshawari Jimmy Hill ran off for list long

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but Arteta is world class

But but I have standards

Same guy that was claiming top 4 would be an achievement

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Its imperative Arsenal have to capitalize on this tomorrow night.

A gap of 7 points with 18 games to go is NOTHING.

 

[IMMY69]

Kids kids kids
Actually no carry on...

 

[IMMY69]

Its imperative Arsenal have to capitalize on this tomorrow night.

A gap of 7 points with 18 games to go is NOTHING.

I'll be extremely pleased if we win tomorrow... only positive I see is that Spuds won't play the ten behind the ball and we find space... just hoping we have someone that can score some goals

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I'll be extremely pleased if we win tomorrow... only positive I see is that Spuds won't play the ten behind the ball and we find space... just hoping we have someone that can score some goals

Yep, spurs are so predictable. But agree, you have to take your chances.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I'll be extremely pleased if we win tomorrow... only positive I see is that Spuds won't play the ten behind the ball and we find space... just hoping we have someone that can score some goals

Spurs are very poor in defending set pieces so that haram football FC best chance tonight

 

[Mamoon]

But but Arteta is world class

But but I have standards

Same guy that was claiming top 4 would be an achievement

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Please show me where I said top 4 would be an “achievement”? I clearly said it is the goal (minimum requirement) based on how this season has panned out.

If Arsenal had slipped out of the top 4, it could have been disastrous because you risk losing your best players and it also makes it harder to attract top talent.

Finishing top 4 means you can write this season off as a blip and reinvest in the summer to win the league next season.

 

[MK7Z]

We will have to see.

Villa have bought Donyell Malen from Dortmund, he's a striker from Holland who scored 13 goals last season and only 25. Its too early to say he will be a huge success at Villa but this kid was at Arsenal as a youth player.

It begs the question, why is Arsenal struggling to bring through youth team players, very rarely now? Is Michael Arteta not looking at this ?

How many academy players have come into the big teams this season? This is poor analysis by you.

His hand may have been forced but the fact remains MLS and Ethan Nwanerie have got more PL game time than any other Big teams academy players including yours.

 

[KingKhanWC]

How many academy players have come into the big teams this season? This is poor analysis by you.

His hand may have been forced but the fact remains MLS and Ethan Nwanerie have got more PL game time than any other Big teams academy players including yours.

it wasnt analysis, it was a question to Arsenal fans.

But LFC have plenty who can drop into any position, we just dont need them. Arsenal need strikers, even though your manager is going for a midfielder atm. Are there any other young players or youth player who can step into this position?

 

[MK7Z]

it wasnt analysis, it was a question to Arsenal fans.

But LFC have plenty who can drop into any position, we just dont need them. Arsenal need strikers, even though your manager is going for a midfielder atm. Are there any other young players or youth player who can step into this position?

Youth players and academy plays are not going to excel you and be the difference makers which is what Arsenal need. Ready made striker. You are telling me that a youth player can replace Salah or Jota? or drop in as you say? Please name them as I am not aware of any. Also at CB who is your academy player that can fill in for VVD?

I'll say it again just for clarity. Academy players should not be relied upon for a title chasing team. So at this moment in time I could not care less if we dont bring any through.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Youth players and academy plays are not going to excel you and be the difference makers which is what Arsenal need. Ready made striker. You are telling me that a youth player can replace Salah or Jota? or drop in as you say? Please name them as I am not aware of any. Also at CB who is your academy player that can fill in for VVD?

I'll say it again just for clarity. Academy players should not be relied upon for a title chasing team. So at this moment in time I could not care less if we dont bring any through.

lol of course they cant replace top first team players but we have them available to fill the position. Its ok, it seems you arent sure if Arsenal have any young strikers, Ill search the web.

 

[MK7Z]

lol of course they cant replace top first team players but we have them available to fill the position. Its ok, it seems you arent sure if Arsenal have any young strikers, Ill search the web.

whats the point in filling the position? anybody can fill a position. No i dont know of any strikers in the academy as I dont follow it like that.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Academy players have to be integrated in a time frame. In general best time to integrate them is when a winning culture at the club is developed to make the integration as smooth as possible.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Academy players have to be integrated in a time frame. In general best time to integrate them is when a winning culture at the club is developed to make the integration as smooth as possible.

Yep, unless you have Havertz using his shoulder instead of his head and his shin instead of foot. There are no others so if there is a young 18 year old promising talent who is scoring goals at under 18 or under 21's, worth the punt imo.