Asians make up 80% of child groomers – study

[MenInG]

'Political correctness' to blame for overlooking child sexual abuse - Braverman

Suella Braverman will announce measures to end the "systematic and institutional failure to safeguard the welfare of children when it comes to sexual abuse", she says.

She tells Sky News: "What we've seen is a practice whereby vulnerable, white, English girls, sometimes in care, sometimes who are in challenging circumstances, being pursued and raped and drugged and harmed by gangs of British-Pakistani, men who've worked in child abuse rings or networks."

"We've seen institutions and state agencies, whether it's social workers, teachers, the police turn a blind eye to these, too t these signs of abuse out of political correctness, out of fear, of being called racists, out of fear, of being called bigoted."

When challenged that a Home Office report in 2020 found grooming gangs were most commonly white, the home secretary says there have been several reports about the "predominance of certain ethnic groups, and I say British-Pakistani males, who hold cultural values totally at odds with British values".

SKY

 

[Saj]

Huge problem this.

And it doesn't seem to be getting any better.

What is wrong with these guys?

I'm led to believe many are taxi drivers and take away owners, which means that they have access to these girls.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Huge problem this.

And it doesn't seem to be getting any better.

What is wrong with these guys?

I'm led to believe many are taxi drivers and take away owners, which means that they have access to these girls.

Nicholas Clayton, 38, from The Wirral doesnt sound like an Asian taxi driver to me?

 

[the Great Khan]

Huge problem this.

And it doesn't seem to be getting any better.

What is wrong with these guys?

I'm led to believe many are taxi drivers and take away owners, which means that they have access to these girls.

The majority of child abusers are white. Majority of sex traficking is by white men.

 

[Saj]

Nicholas Clayton, 38, from The Wirral doesnt sound like an Asian taxi driver to me?

Of course he doesn't. There will be many cases that aren't Asian of course.

But how many times have we seen Asian gangs get sent to prison for grooming.

It's embarrassing.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

'Political correctness' to blame for overlooking child sexual abuse - Braverman

Suella Braverman will announce measures to end the "systematic and institutional failure to safeguard the welfare of children when it comes to sexual abuse", she says.

She tells Sky News: "What we've seen is a practice whereby vulnerable, white, English girls, sometimes in care, sometimes who are in challenging circumstances, being pursued and raped and drugged and harmed by gangs of British-Pakistani, men who've worked in child abuse rings or networks."

"We've seen institutions and state agencies, whether it's social workers, teachers, the police turn a blind eye to these, too t these signs of abuse out of political correctness, out of fear, of being called racists, out of fear, of being called bigoted."

When challenged that a Home Office report in 2020 found grooming gangs were most commonly white, the home secretary says there have been several reports about the "predominance of certain ethnic groups, and I say British-Pakistani males, who hold cultural values totally at odds with British values".

SKY

Emphasis on British Pakistani there but in Huddersfield it was a sikh gangleader and lieutenants with BritPak the lemmings.

Is Braverman race-baiting?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Of course he doesn't. There will be many cases that aren't Asian of course.

But how many times have we seen Asian gangs get sent to prison for grooming.

It's embarrassing.

Yes, the problem in the Asian community was disgusting. But there was a recent case of a girl making false claims, now she in jail, I posted a thread.

Maybe we should have a separate thread for white groomers bro or just a general thread without mentioning ethnicity, which only fuels Islamaphobia?

 

[SalimBhai]

This is also a problem with desis in Spain now.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Yes, the problem in the Asian community was disgusting. But there was a recent case of a girl making false claims, now she in jail, I posted a thread.

Maybe we should have a separate thread for white groomers bro or just a general thread without mentioning ethnicity, which only fuels Islamaphobia?

Sir, 80% are Asians and the majority within Pakistani, how's it not a problem?!.

Issue is Muslims who are conservative listening to bhangra and indulging in alcohol have lost their heads and think these despicable acts are fine.

You've on multiple occasions used this thin strawman alluding to condoning it that I sincerely doubt you're Pakistani?.

 

[saeedhk]

I believe the UK government and its citizen should be allowed to draw attention towards grooming of kids by Pakistanis without the fear of being accused of racism. This problem is deeply-rooted and needs to be stamped out. Those who engage in such despicable acts should be sent deported.

I feel those who abuse underage kids do not see it as a crime as the victims are non-Muslims.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

I believe the UK government and its citizen should be allowed to draw attention towards grooming of kids by Pakistanis without the fear of being accused of racism. This problem is deeply-rooted and needs to be stamped out. Those who engage in such despicable acts should be sent deported.

I feel those who abuse underage kids do not see it as a crime as the victims are non-Muslims.

I think it's dangerous to do that, however, 'Asian (South)' has been used as a catch-for-all and Desi has become a synonym for Punjabi in recent years so maybe there ought to be more clearer ethnic descriptions but the danger is proxy forces will try to fracture the volatile ethniclihes within Pakistani which is what non-Pakistani Desis have exploited in certain areas of UK and is already a major issue in Central Punjab-centric Pakistan

 

[SalimBhai]

I believe the UK government and its citizen should be allowed to draw attention towards grooming of kids by Pakistanis without the fear of being accused of racism. This problem is deeply-rooted and needs to be stamped out. Those who engage in such despicable acts should be sent deported.

I feel those who abuse underage kids do not see it as a crime as the victims are non-Muslims.

Agree with the mentality as they don’t see the victims due to them being non Muslim. I am sure that’s not all of it. But it is one aspect of this issue

 

[the Great Khan]

Sir, 80% are Asians and the majority within Pakistani, how's it not a problem?!.

Issue is Muslims who are conservative listening to bhangra and indulging in alcohol have lost their heads and think these despicable acts are fine.

You've on multiple occasions used this thin strawman alluding to condoning it that I sincerely doubt you're Pakistani?.

This is not true. That report was discredited. If you look at the overall picture Asians make up a very small number of child abuse cases. The Times created this word called grooming. In legal terms it does not exist. I'm not saying there isn't a problem but the actual problem is so overwhelmingly part of the majority community that it isn't a debate anymore.

Unfortunately the home sec is race batting. She has at most a year to go and is positioning herself as a leadership candidate.

The majority community don't just have a problem amongst men but women too. And their targets begin from toddlers. Why for example doesn't the media talk about the fact that every toddler or small child abuse case is perpetrated by the majority community? If you want to compartmentalise then why not start there?

 

[daytrader]

Interesting thread. Never heard of this problem in the Americas. What's wrong with British Pakistanis

 

[SalimBhai]

This is not true. That report was discredited. If you look at the overall picture Asians make up a very small number of child abuse cases. The Times created this word called grooming. In legal terms it does not exist. I'm not saying there isn't a problem but the actual problem is so overwhelmingly part of the majority community that it isn't a debate anymore.

Unfortunately the home sec is race batting. She has at most a year to go and is positioning herself as a leadership candidate.

The majority community don't just have a problem amongst men but women too. And their targets begin from toddlers. Why for example doesn't the media talk about the fact that every toddler or small child abuse case is perpetrated by the majority community? If you want to compartmentalise then why not start there?

I think you have to look what percentage of the population in the UK is British Pakistani and then look at the percentage of people who are grooming these girls are British pakistani. I don’t know the answer. Just asking

 

[SpiritOf1903]

This is not true. That report was discredited. If you look at the overall picture Asians make up a very small number of child abuse cases. The Times created this word called grooming. In legal terms it does not exist. I'm not saying there isn't a problem but the actual problem is so overwhelmingly part of the majority community that it isn't a debate anymore.

Unfortunately the home sec is race batting. She has at most a year to go and is positioning herself as a leadership candidate.

The majority community don't just have a problem amongst men but women too. And their targets begin from toddlers. Why for example doesn't the media talk about the fact that every toddler or small child abuse case is perpetrated by the majority community? If you want to compartmentalise then why not start there?

Yes,this distinct term is 'grooming' a la 'terrori.. so .. I blame the extortionate sentences handed out during the 2001 riots when larger ones prior and post are and have been revised as 'social rebellion ' ...

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This is not true. That report was discredited. If you look at the overall picture Asians make up a very small number of child abuse cases. The Times created this word called grooming. In legal terms it does not exist. I'm not saying there isn't a problem but the actual problem is so overwhelmingly part of the majority community that it isn't a debate anymore.

Unfortunately the home sec is race batting. She has at most a year to go and is positioning herself as a leadership candidate.

The majority community don't just have a problem amongst men but women too. And their targets begin from toddlers. Why for example doesn't the media talk about the fact that every toddler or small child abuse case is perpetrated by the majority community? If you want to compartmentalise then why not start there?

Because the white population would be outraged if they were labelled as paedos as a racial profile. This is something that only inferiority complex desis would accept.

 

[RexRex]

Because the white population would be outraged if they were labelled as paedos as a racial profile. This is something that only inferiority complex desis would accept.

Are there more white grooming gangs than British Pakistani grooming gangs ? If so, this thread would be unfair.

 

[Abel Reames]

'Political correctness' to blame for overlooking child sexual abuse - Braverman

Suella Braverman will announce measures to end the "systematic and institutional failure to safeguard the welfare of children when it comes to sexual abuse", she says.

She tells Sky News: "What we've seen is a practice whereby vulnerable, white, English girls, sometimes in care, sometimes who are in challenging circumstances, being pursued and raped and drugged and harmed by gangs of British-Pakistani, men who've worked in child abuse rings or networks."

"We've seen institutions and state agencies, whether it's social workers, teachers, the police turn a blind eye to these, too t these signs of abuse out of political correctness, out of fear, of being called racists, out of fear, of being called bigoted."

When challenged that a Home Office report in 2020 found grooming gangs were most commonly white, the home secretary says there have been several reports about the "predominance of certain ethnic groups, and I say British-Pakistani males, who hold cultural values totally at odds with British values".

SKY

That bit about no action being taken by the police out of fear of being called racists - nonsense. The police and authorities themselves thought that vulnerable girls were worthless and deserved it.

So when society got round to the idea as not seeing them as worthless like the 70/80's turned to 90/00's they conveniently found an alternative reason for the non-action.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Huge problem this.

And it doesn't seem to be getting any better.

What is wrong with these guys?

I'm led to believe many are taxi drivers and take away owners, which means that they have access to these girls.

Can you explain this?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Are there more white grooming gangs than British Pakistani grooming gangs ? If so, this thread would be unfair.

Whites tend to trawl far Asia for this type of stuff, in which case grooming wouldn't really come into it. I don't recall them being racially profiled for it though, possibly because it's more difficult to track what goes on in other parts of the world, but I have read reports that sex tourism in Asia is usually led by Europeans and underage girls/boys are often the victims.

 

[Abel Reames]

Can you explain this?

It is the night time economy mostly taxis and kebab houses and similar in inner city areas these are mostly run by Pakistani males, it could have been another community but for various reasons it is the Pakistanis. Lots of these Pakistanis are not necessarily UK born.

Girls who are bored, rebellious, from troubled homes, care homes so already in some form of trauma looking for release from trauma and boredom tend to do so in the inner city area during the night time.

Hence a meeting of these two worlds.

 

[the Great Khan]

Sorrry but enough of this "Brritiah Pakistanis are child groomers" bakwaas. Yes we have criminals amongst us. But the overwhelwming majority of child abusers are white. And there is no such legal term as groomer. This was a term used by the Sunday times to race bate and target British Muslims and Pakistanis. The majority of grooming gangs are white.

And grooming effects both males and females. My wife works somewhere (can't say on here) where she has to deal with cases everyday. 99 percent are white. Grooming young boys to drug run grooming young girls for prostitution. She has been working here for over two years and has had a hand ful of cases of Asians.

Here is the report from the Homeoffice about child abuse

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...home-office-report?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Rishi Sunak has also not repeated the home secretaries nonsense.

The evidence just doesn't back it up.

And before inhear the oh but proportionatley due to population. Sorry still doesn't stack up.

Also if you want to go down the its a very specific type of crime. Doesn't stack up either. Majority involved in this type of crime are white. Also the abuse of toddlers and under the age of 5. All white.

Hence why if they go down this route they will ignore thenreal victims.

 

[the Great Khan]

It is the night time economy mostly taxis and kebab houses and similar in inner city areas these are mostly run by Pakistani males, it could have been another community but for various reasons it is the Pakistanis. Lots of these Pakistanis are not necessarily UK born.

Girls who are bored, rebellious, from troubled homes, care homes so already in some form of trauma looking for release from trauma and boredom tend to do so in the inner city area during the night time.

Hence a meeting of these two worlds.

They still make up low numbers as white gangs are more heavily involved in this activity. Majority white gangs run all the protection and prostitution rackets..County lines everything. Asians are a drop in the ocean.

 

[Saj]

Can you explain this?

I honestly cannot.

Upbringing? Family not willing to expose them? Culture of these guys?

Who knows.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I honestly cannot.

Upbringing? Family not willing to expose them? Culture of these guys?

Who knows.

I think we should keep in mind, those who groom drink booze, do drugs and fornicate, this is not Islamic or traditional Asian culture.

The reason they do this is the same reason white, black or any other men abuse girls or children. They are simply evil men who want to use and abuse for their own sick desires.

The good news is this is reducing rapidly as the Asian communities have condemned this openly and good work by the cops to convict many.

The biggest problem for child abuse comes from middle aged white men, sadly is only increasing.

 

[SalimBhai]

I think we should keep in mind, those who groom drink booze, do drugs and fornicate, this is not Islamic or traditional Asian culture.

The reason they do this is the same reason white, black or any other men abuse girls or children. They are simply evil men who want to use and abuse for their own sick desires.

The good news is this is reducing rapidly as the Asian communities have condemned this openly and good work by the cops to convict many.

The biggest problem for child abuse comes from middle aged white men, sadly is only increasing.

Middle aged white men like Andrew Tate?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Middle aged white men like Andrew Tate?

He's not white or middle aged.

Middle aged in the English language is usually over 40 to 60.

Prince Andrew, Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris, Epstein, Jimmy Saville etc...

After these revelations the Asians are the biggest abusers of children has been shattered. In the UK this now rarely makes headlines as it once did.

 

[sweep_shot]

Middle aged white men like Andrew Tate?

Andrew Tate is not white. He is mixed (as per him).

 

[KingKhanWC]

Andrew Tate is not white. He is mixed (as per him).

It seems this was a Freudian slip.

It shows the attack wasnt really on Asians but another attempt to demonise Muslims and Islam. This is why I explained above the acts of drinking booze, drugs and fornication are not Islamic values but western culture. How can they link this to Islam when its against the faith but promoted by western culture.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Andrew Tate is not white. He is mixed (as per him).

It seems this was a Freudian slip.

It shows the attack wasnt really on Asians but another attempt to demonise Muslims and Islam. This is why I explained above the acts of drinking booze, drugs and fornication are not Islamic values but western culture. How can they link this to Islam when its against the faith but promoted by western culture.

 

[SalimBhai]

Correct my mistake. He is mixed race..

 

[sweep_shot]

It seems this was a Freudian slip.

It shows the attack wasnt really on Asians but another attempt to demonise Muslims and Islam. This is why I explained above the acts of drinking booze, drugs and fornication are not Islamic values but western culture. How can they link this to Islam when its against the faith but promoted by western culture.

Definitely.

Drinking, partying etc. are western concepts. Not Islamic concepts.

Their actions are byproducts of western culture.

 

[SalimBhai]

Definitely.

Drinking, partying etc. are western concepts. Not Islamic concepts.

Their actions are byproducts of western culture.

Have you heard of child molestation in madrassas? Or churches?

 

[SalimBhai]

July 2022:

Stop calling them ‘Asian’ grooming gangs

This is just another way of obscuring the truth about the ethnicity of most of the perpetrators.

Last week’s landmark report into grooming gangs in Telford made for truly horrifying reading. It revealed that 1,000 mainly white girls had been subjected to horrific sexual abuse by groups of men of mainly Pakistani heritage since at least the 1980s.

Tom Crowther QC, who chaired the Telford inquiry, said that ‘the overwhelming theme of the evidence has been the appalling suffering of generations of children caused by the utter cruelty of those who committed child sexual exploitation’. He then went on to say that the failure of the authorities to intervene was in part driven by ‘a nervousness that investigating concerns against Asian men, in particular, would inflame racial tensions’.

‘Asian’ men? This is an odd description of the perpetrators. Crowther pulled almost no punches in his summing up. But this was definitely one he did pull. The members of the grooming gangs were not simply ‘Asian’ – by and large, they were Muslim men of Pakistani heritage.

This was not a mere slip on Crowther’s part. The report contains nearly 200 or so references to the ‘Asian’ members of grooming gangs. And subsequent media coverage of the report has generally repeated its characterisation of the perpetrators as ‘Asian’.

‘Asian’ is a deliberately vague and non-specific descriptor for men identified as being largely of Pakistani heritage. Referring to these perpetrators of organised child sex abuse as ‘Asian’ is as absurd as referring to the German perpetrators of the Holocaust as ‘European’. It gives the impression that grooming gangs might have been full of men of Chinese, Korean or Japanese heritage. It suggests that members of Britain’s Sikh and Hindu communities might have been heavily involved, too.

The British working class is what real anti-racism looks like

The use of ‘Asian’ to describe members of grooming gangs obscures the very specific ethnic dynamics at play in this form of abuse. While grooming-gang victims have tended to be white British girls, the gangs have also sometimes targeted Sikh girls, as they did in Leicester. What’s more, some of the white victims of grooming gangs have told me themselves that the sexual abuse had a racial and religious element. The perpetrators would refer to them as ‘white slags’ and claim that ‘white girls and non-Muslim girls are bad because [they] dress like slags’.

Characterising these wicked men only as ‘Asian’ obscures one of the motives for their actions – that, as far as they were concerned, those they were abusing were non-Muslim and therefore fairgame.

You can understand why there’s a reluctance to talk about the ethnicity of most of the perpetrators. To describe them as Pakistani is to risk accusations of Islamophobia and racism. Indeed, we need only recall the experience of the Labour MP for Rotherham, Sarah Champion. In 2018, she wrote an op-ed for the Sun addressing the ‘problem [of] British Pakistani men raping white girls’, in reference to the Rotherham grooming-gang scandal. She was subsequently accused of being Islamophobic and was forced to quit the shadow cabinet. Given the treatment of Champion, you can see why many in the public eye opt, in the interests of self-preservation, to describe Pakistani grooming-gang members as ‘Asian’ – if indeed they talk about the issue at all.

But this evasion comes at a heavy cost. By skirting around the issue of the perpetrators’ ethnicity, we allow bad-faith actors to exploit it – to racialise what appears to be a specific cultural problem.

It is a sad reflection on our times that politicians and the media still struggle to speak frankly about what is happening across the country. It is well past time that we learnt to speak the truth about grooming gangs.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/20/stop-calling-them-asian-grooming-gangs/

 

[the Great Khan]

July 2022:

Stop calling them ‘Asian’ grooming gangs

This is just another way of obscuring the truth about the ethnicity of most of the perpetrators.

Last week’s landmark report into grooming gangs in Telford made for truly horrifying reading. It revealed that 1,000 mainly white girls had been subjected to horrific sexual abuse by groups of men of mainly Pakistani heritage since at least the 1980s.

Tom Crowther QC, who chaired the Telford inquiry, said that ‘the overwhelming theme of the evidence has been the appalling suffering of generations of children caused by the utter cruelty of those who committed child sexual exploitation’. He then went on to say that the failure of the authorities to intervene was in part driven by ‘a nervousness that investigating concerns against Asian men, in particular, would inflame racial tensions’.

‘Asian’ men? This is an odd description of the perpetrators. Crowther pulled almost no punches in his summing up. But this was definitely one he did pull. The members of the grooming gangs were not simply ‘Asian’ – by and large, they were Muslim men of Pakistani heritage.

This was not a mere slip on Crowther’s part. The report contains nearly 200 or so references to the ‘Asian’ members of grooming gangs. And subsequent media coverage of the report has generally repeated its characterisation of the perpetrators as ‘Asian’.

‘Asian’ is a deliberately vague and non-specific descriptor for men identified as being largely of Pakistani heritage. Referring to these perpetrators of organised child sex abuse as ‘Asian’ is as absurd as referring to the German perpetrators of the Holocaust as ‘European’. It gives the impression that grooming gangs might have been full of men of Chinese, Korean or Japanese heritage. It suggests that members of Britain’s Sikh and Hindu communities might have been heavily involved, too.

The British working class is what real anti-racism looks like

The use of ‘Asian’ to describe members of grooming gangs obscures the very specific ethnic dynamics at play in this form of abuse. While grooming-gang victims have tended to be white British girls, the gangs have also sometimes targeted Sikh girls, as they did in Leicester. What’s more, some of the white victims of grooming gangs have told me themselves that the sexual abuse had a racial and religious element. The perpetrators would refer to them as ‘white slags’ and claim that ‘white girls and non-Muslim girls are bad because [they] dress like slags’.

Characterising these wicked men only as ‘Asian’ obscures one of the motives for their actions – that, as far as they were concerned, those they were abusing were non-Muslim and therefore fairgame.

You can understand why there’s a reluctance to talk about the ethnicity of most of the perpetrators. To describe them as Pakistani is to risk accusations of Islamophobia and racism. Indeed, we need only recall the experience of the Labour MP for Rotherham, Sarah Champion. In 2018, she wrote an op-ed for the Sun addressing the ‘problem [of] British Pakistani men raping white girls’, in reference to the Rotherham grooming-gang scandal. She was subsequently accused of being Islamophobic and was forced to quit the shadow cabinet. Given the treatment of Champion, you can see why many in the public eye opt, in the interests of self-preservation, to describe Pakistani grooming-gang members as ‘Asian’ – if indeed they talk about the issue at all.

But this evasion comes at a heavy cost. By skirting around the issue of the perpetrators’ ethnicity, we allow bad-faith actors to exploit it – to racialise what appears to be a specific cultural problem.

It is a sad reflection on our times that politicians and the media still struggle to speak frankly about what is happening across the country. It is well past time that we learnt to speak the truth about grooming gangs.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/20/stop-calling-them-asian-grooming-gangs/

So you conveniently ignore my posts above and post this right wing garbage??

 

[the Great Khan]

I honestly cannot.

Upbringing? Family not willing to expose them? Culture of these guys?

Who knows.

Read my post above.

 

[SalimBhai]

So you conveniently ignore my posts above and post this right wing garbage??

Why you say it's right wing garbage.

 

[SalimBhai]

British Pakistani population is 2.7 percent of UK population. Whites are 82-87 percent of UK. So obviously just by numbers whites would;d be involved in everything more just by numbers.

 

[Zaz]

Looks like Braverman has real hatred and is someone who wants to demonise and build hatred for a community

Its disgusting language, targeting and sterotyping by someone in power who should know better what the consequences of such words are

Vile person Seems like shes after a job for the far right tbh

 

[KingKhanWC]

Looks like Braverman has real hatred and is someone who wants to demonise and build hatred for a community

Its disgusting language, targeting and sterotyping by someone in power who should know better what the consequences of such words are

Vile person Seems like shes after a job for the far right tbh

She is Indian Hindu so would be a Hindutva RSS type far right extremist.

These people will never get over 1000 years of Muslim rule.

But shy away from mentioning White privileged grooming gangs which have been exposed as the largest rich peado gang in history.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Why you say it's right wing garbage.

Why not call Epstein and his friends as White privileged grooming gang?

 

[ElRaja]

how many times will this get rehashed and splashed on news papers, Pakistani men are not materially over represented among pedophiles in general. they found a subset of pedophiles, who happened to have a ethnic commonality in one geographical area.

yes some pakistanis are pedos, but no more or less than anyone else. but at least these threads give all the concerned resident non-britpaks another chance to ask the most important question, whats wrong with britpaks?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The reason so many are triggered by Brit Paks is because we don't accept second class status like the fudge brownies on show in this thread. But that's not our aukat, it's yours fudgies. It's what you were born for.

 

[KingKhanWC]

how many times will this get rehashed and splashed on news papers, Pakistani men are not materially over represented among pedophiles in general. they found a subset of pedophiles, who happened to have a ethnic commonality in one geographical area.

yes some pakistanis are pedos, but no more or less than anyone else. but at least these threads give all the concerned resident non-britpaks another chance to ask the most important question, whats wrong with britpaks?

Spot on.

Lets also not forget the biggest evil child abusers in UK history, the likes of Fred & Rose West, Huckle, Glitter etc are non Asian. Heck the biggest peado gang in the UK was from Northumbria.

150 years: The most prolific paedophiles brought to justice this year by our officers

https://beta.northumbria.police.uk/...brought-to-justice-this-year-by-our-officers/

No mention of their ethnicity here.

 

[SalimBhai]

The reason so many are triggered by Brit Paks is because we don't accept second class status like the fudge brownies on show in this thread. But that's not our aukat, it's yours fudgies. It's what you were born for.

By all accounts British Pakistanis are at the bottom of the barrel in UK. So you can claim the hate er you like. It’s the same mentality that African Americans have here, who are also at the bottom .

 

[the Great Khan]

Why you say it's right wing garbage.

Because it is false that's why. Your peddling bakwaas. Read my post above or are you a coward like others on this forum?

 

[the Great Khan]

Spot on.

Lets also not forget the biggest evil child abusers in UK history, the likes of Fred & Rose West, Huckle, Glitter etc are non Asian. Heck the biggest peado gang in the UK was from Northumbria.



https://beta.northumbria.police.uk/...brought-to-justice-this-year-by-our-officers/

No mention of their ethnicity here.

Also remember the most heinous crime. The abuse of toddlers and children as young as 3 or even younger..all.white. the catholic Church. Decades of organised child abuse. But yeah let's go for the brown criminal. Hell grooming isn't even a legal term child abuse is child abuse. End of. Only sick vile racists compartmentalise crime to absolve their race.

 

[SalimBhai]

Also remember the most heinous crime. The abuse of toddlers and children as young as 3 or even younger..all.white. the catholic Church. Decades of organised child abuse. But yeah let's go for the brown criminal. Hell grooming isn't even a legal term child abuse is child abuse. End of. Only sick vile racists compartmentalise crime to absolve their race.

Have you forgotten the child abuse in madrasas . Why not call out the Catholic Church and the madrassas too. What do u pick and choose ??

 

[daytrader]

Definitely.

Drinking, partying etc. are western concepts. Not Islamic concepts.

Their actions are byproducts of western culture.

Pakistanis drink and party in America and Canada too. They're not grooming children. This is something unique to the particular geographic area

 

[SalimBhai]

Definitely.

Drinking, partying etc. are western concepts. Not Islamic concepts.

Their actions are byproducts of western culture.

If their actions are byproducts of western culture then why does this lot happen in the USA Australasia or Canada with Pakistanis who drink or party.

 

[daytrader]

UK minister under fire for singling out Pakistani men

British Home Secretary Suella Braverman’s remarks that British-Pakistani men “hold cultural values at odds with British values” have been criticised by political commentators and children’s charities as “inflammatory” and akin to initiating “race wars”.

Ms Braverman came under fire when, during a Sky News interview about plans to tackle child sexual abuse, she spoke about “the predominance of British-Pakistani males who hold cultural values totally at odds with British values”.

“[British-Pakistani men] see women in a demeaned, illegitimate way, and pursue an outdated and frankly heinous approach to the way we behave,” Ms Braverman commented after she was informed that a Home Office report in 2020 concluded that most child sexual abuse gangs are made up of white men under the age of 30, and that there was not enough evidence to suggest members of grooming gangs were disproportionately more likely to be Asian or black.

Ms Braverman instead pointed to reports from Rotherham, which was rocked by a child sexual exploitation scandal in which five British-Pakistani men were convicted of grooming, raping and exploiting young girls. The home secretary also cited a 2015 report penned by Dame Louise Casey CB, which ironically noted how British-Pakistani community had been “harmed by association” in the scandal.

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https://www.dawn.com/news/1745812/uk-minister-under-fire-for-singling-out-pakistani-men

 

[cricketjoshila]

She is Indian Hindu so would be a Hindutva RSS type far right extremist.

These people will never get over 1000 years of Muslim rule.

But shy away from mentioning White privileged grooming gangs which have been exposed as the largest rich peado gang in history.

She is a Buddhist. Born to a Christian father and hindu mother, married to a jew.

But ofcourse you will spout your nonsense.

No pakistani ruled over India, ever. Get out of that delusion.

 

[saeedhk]

There is no wrong in mentioning the races of those who engage in heinous crimes. It is perfectly fine for newspapers to label groomers as 'Pakistanis'.

If people are so upset over the mention of race when reporting such despicable cases, why do the same people rejoice when a newspaper mentions the race of a person in a positive news story such 'Pakistani taxi driver returns wallet with $20000'? We should also stop celebrating that the mayor of London is a Pakistani. Let's make it consistent.

When you are in a foreign land, your actions will be scrutinised more and you would be publicly shamed. So, to avoid all of this, stop engaging in crime!

 

[the Great Khan]

Have you forgotten the child abuse in madrasas . Why not call out the Catholic Church and the madrassas too. What do u pick and choose ??

Do you have evidence of uk madrasas being a hub of child abuse? Can you give me numbers rather than islamaphobic nonsense?

 

[the Great Khan]

Pakistanis drink and party in America and Canada too. They're not grooming children. This is something unique to the particular geographic area

It's not unique. Its a crime like other crimes. It was just high profile because the nature of the horror. Like a serial killer. But it is not unique. Stop failing into this trap.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Braverman was talking about Indian illegal immigrants and some on here were celebrating her comments. Not do fond of her now eh?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

She is a Buddhist. Born to a Christian father and hindu mother, married to a jew.

But ofcourse you will spout your nonsense.

No pakistani ruled over India, ever. Get out of that delusion.

Don't blame her for rejecting the Hindu faith of her mother and accepting Buddhism. Also don't blame her for choosing an Abrahamic man as her partner same as her mother and her fellow Indian MP Priti Patel. It's a pattern we see regularly here in the UK.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

By all accounts British Pakistanis are at the bottom of the barrel in UK. So you can claim the hate er you like. It’s the same mentality that African Americans have here, who are also at the bottom .

I think you are being selective about which barrel you are choosing. African Americans are top of the barrel when it comes to sports and athletic prowess, and also probably better represented as film and tv stars in America. Seems like the age of the internet has provided us with a generation of keyboard warriors who measure success on sitting behind a monitor.

 

[RexRex]

Just read an article on this and it has disturbing conclusions -

If we factor in comparative population sizes, Asian men are 20 times more likely to be street groomers than white men.

Also, Asian men are 17 times more likely to be involved with group-based child sexual exploitation than white men.

These are damning statistics if you ask me.

 

[SalimBhai]

Do you have evidence of uk madrasas being a hub of child abuse? Can you give me numbers rather than islamaphobic nonsense?

Pakistani madrassas not uk

 

[SalimBhai]

I think you are being selective about which barrel you are choosing. African Americans are top of the barrel when it comes to sports and athletic prowess, and also probably better represented as film and tv stars in America. Seems like the age of the internet has provided us with a generation of keyboard warriors who measure success on sitting behind a monitor.

I mean economically , education so on.

 

[SalimBhai]

Just read an article on this and it has disturbing conclusions -

If we factor in comparative population sizes, Asian men are 20 times more likely to be street groomers than white men.

Also, Asian men are 17 times more likely to be involved with group-based child sexual exploitation than white men.

These are damning statistics if you ask me.

Stop saying Asian men. It’s British Pakistanis. Not Koreans, Indians, Turks. It’s British Pakistanis.

 

[the Great Khan]

Just read an article on this and it has disturbing conclusions -

If we factor in comparative population sizes, Asian men are 20 times more likely to be street groomers than white men.

Also, Asian men are 17 times more likely to be involved with group-based child sexual exploitation than white men.

These are damning statistics if you ask me.

Can you post the source and where they got their information please.

 

[Major]

Just read an article on this and it has disturbing conclusions -

If we factor in comparative population sizes, Asian men are 20 times more likely to be street groomers than white men.

Also, Asian men are 17 times more likely to be involved with group-based child sexual exploitation than white men.

These are damning statistics if you ask me.

This is really disturbing.

I wonder what the percentages are nationality wise. How many are indians, bengalis, pakistanis and afghans in these percentages?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just read an article on this and it has disturbing conclusions -

If we factor in comparative population sizes, Asian men are 20 times more likely to be street groomers than white men.

Also, Asian men are 17 times more likely to be involved with group-based child sexual exploitation than white men.

These are damning statistics if you ask me.

No idea if the stats are true, but as I said already, whites tend to travel to far Asia to fulfil their less scrupulous fantasies. I wonder if Asians are doing this in reverse? Thailand or the Philipines don't strike me as the type of countries to conduct such surveys but might prove instructive.

 

[Zaz]

There is no wrong in mentioning the races of those who engage in heinous crimes. It is perfectly fine for newspapers to label groomers as 'Pakistanis'.

If people are so upset over the mention of race when reporting such despicable cases, why do the same people rejoice when a newspaper mentions the race of a person in a positive news story such 'Pakistani taxi driver returns wallet with $20000'? We should also stop celebrating that the mayor of London is a Pakistani. Let's make it consistent.

When you are in a foreign land, your actions will be scrutinised more and you would be publicly shamed. So, to avoid all of this, stop engaging in crime!

There is everything wrong with saying british pakistani men see white women in a demeaned illegitimate way

Does that make me and half this forum as potential rapists of white women and children?

Her words were inflamtory, bigoted and demonised a whole community

I and 99% of british pakistanis totally reject this tarnishing with the same brush

Her words are simply unacceptable coming from a govt minister shes race baiting and should be sacked

 

[the Great Khan]

This is really disturbing.

I wonder what the percentages are nationality wise. How many are indians, bengalis, pakistanis and afghans in these percentages?

Thse stats are misleading. What is a street groomer? Clearly our Indian friend here is trolling.

 

[the Great Khan]

No idea if the stats are true, but as I said already, whites tend to travel to far Asia to fulfil their less scrupulous fantasies. I wonder if Asians are doing this in reverse? Thailand or the Philipines don't strike me as the type of countries to conduct such surveys but might prove instructive.

I also know a stat. All abusers of toddlers and babies are disproportionatley white. If you begin to compartmentalise crimes like this you get knowhere.

For example all eaters of jalebis are largely of Indian origin and Indians have a higher level of diabetes than whites..see? Useless stats made to sound as if they are useful..

 

[Zaz]

Also remember the most heinous crime. The abuse of toddlers and children as young as 3 or even younger..all.white. the catholic Church. Decades of organised child abuse. But yeah let's go for the brown criminal. Hell grooming isn't even a legal term child abuse is child abuse. End of. Only sick vile racists compartmentalise crime to absolve their race.

Studies have shown that a brown muslim face will have infinite more coverage by the media outlets than a white person committing the same crime

Why is anyone surprised? This facist govt needs to redirect from the cost of living crises and what better way to do it than once again use the brown muslim population and demonise them

 

[the Great Khan]

Studies have shown that a brown muslim face will have infinite more coverage by the media outlets than a white person committing the same crime

Why is anyone surprised? This facist govt needs to redirect from the cost of living crises and what better way to do it than once again use the brown muslim population and demonise them

Yup. But I believe most people aren't buying it anymore.

 

[Abel Reames]

Just read an article on this and it has disturbing conclusions -

If we factor in comparative population sizes, Asian men are 20 times more likely to be street groomers than white men.

Also, Asian men are 17 times more likely to be involved with group-based child sexual exploitation than white men.

These are damning statistics if you ask me.

I'd say that that sounds about right but it not that damning when you consider there may be under-representation in other categories of child sexual exploitation.

For instance as already pointed out overseas child sexual exploitation. Or child sexual exploitation using a position of trust like a pastor, teacher or doctor. And the biggest discrepancy would be online exploitation.

The second stat doesn't sound true imo if you include online sexual exploitation but does if it is street grooming.

Another thing to consider could be number of victims v perpetrator. My reading of the news stories seems that Asian, predominately Pakistani men have larger number of abusers from smaller pool of exploited children. Like court cases where it involves three girls but twenty plus Pakistani men, whereas it is not unusual for the same white individual to face charges of exploiting 3 girls on his own.

Yes perhaps the stats still need special explanation - night time economy, vulnerable girls on night time streets, wannabe BritPak pimps, clientele of mostly Pakistani born males with culture/religion that treats girls as chattels, second class citizens even worse if you are a white girl and you know there is no male guardians of said child.

Plus we shouldn't forget that the BIGGEST number of cases of child sexual exploitation happens WITHIN the FAMILY, I would hazard a guess the stats would be the same white, black or brown.

 

[the Great Khan]

I'd say that that sounds about right but it not that damning when you consider there may be under-representation in other categories of child sexual exploitation.

For instance as already pointed out overseas child sexual exploitation. Or child sexual exploitation using a position of trust like a pastor, teacher or doctor. And the biggest discrepancy would be online exploitation.

The second stat doesn't sound true imo if you include online sexual exploitation but does if it is street grooming.

Another thing to consider could be number of victims v perpetrator. My reading of the news stories seems that Asian, predominately Pakistani men have larger number of abusers from smaller pool of exploited children. Like court cases where it involves three girls but twenty plus Pakistani men, whereas it is not unusual for the same white individual to face charges of exploiting 3 girls on his own.

Yes perhaps the stats still need special explanation - night time economy, vulnerable girls on night time streets, wannabe BritPak pimps, clientele of mostly Pakistani born males with culture/religion that treats girls as chattels, second class citizens even worse if you are a white girl and you know there is no male guardians of said child.

Plus we shouldn't forget that the BIGGEST number of cases of child sexual exploitation happens WITHIN the FAMILY, I would hazard a guess the stats would be the same white, black or brown.

So you just believe these without a source?

 

[Abel Reames]

So you just believe these without a source?

I believe the main points that Pakistani males have a higher preponderence for street grooming and grooming as a gang on the street. I would like to see the criteria, sample number, parameters used to come to figures of x20, x17. The statistics company used could.be employed by a group invested in painting Pakistani males in the baddest light possible, but imo x10 is still a bad figure. x5 is a bad figure.

 

[SalimBhai]

I believe the main points that Pakistani males have a higher preponderence for street grooming and grooming as a gang on the street. I would like to see the criteria, sample number, parameters used to come to figures of x20, x17. The statistics company used could.be employed by a group invested in painting Pakistani males in the baddest light possible, but imo x10 is still a bad figure. x5 is a bad figure.

There is a journalist named moeen pirzada who talks about this subject in detail on YouTube or daily motion .

 

[Abel Reames]

Just to play party politics if the criteria is sexual exploitation/assualt/sex crime in the medical field, I would suspect Hindu doctors to be punching above their weight.

 

[Technics 1210]

In the UK (and Amreeka) the majority of online groomers are white males, and of the Asians whom are caught, the majority are from India, who plead not to be handed to the police as they will be kicked out of the UK for violating their visa conditions.

Just head over to Google/Youtube and type in Child Grooming Vigilantes (vigilante pervert/grooming hunting groups).

Here's how it works. The Vigilantes setup decoys on dating sites such as Tinder, the mention their age as 13, 14 or 15, and then the peados start messaging etc, send lewd pictures, yada yada, and then when it is time to meet up, the peados are arrested. This is all legal and I salute the vigilantes who have dedicated their lives in ridding society of such evil.

I would share the links to the videos, there are 1000s of them, but do the research yourself.

Asian grooming and gangs dominated by Pakistani males is a myth perpetrated by the media and the establishment.

 

[Zaz]

Just to play party politics if the criteria is sexual exploitation/assualt/sex crime in the medical field, I would suspect Hindu doctors to be punching above their weight.

See this is the point. The people with an agenda compartmentalise crimes based on race and present these "stats" as evidence when in reality when taken as a whole asian sex criminals are well below in the list to their white counterparts.

 

[SalimBhai]

See this is the point. The people with an agenda compartmentalise crimes based on race and present these "stats" as evidence when in reality when taken as a whole asian sex criminals are well below in the list to their white counterparts.

Is that taking in that British Pakistanis are 2.7 percent of the population and whites are 87 percent t of the population ?

 

[amirm]

There are at least 10 different categories of sexual offences in the UK, and “sexual grooming” is one of them. Conviction data from the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) shows that only 6% of the offenders convicted of all sexual offences between 2011 and 2017 are Asian. The sample size for group-based exploitation is not reliable according to the Home Office report from 2020.

In the records of defendants prosecuted
for child sexual abuse offences in 2020, the defendant’s broad ethnic background was recorded in 71% of cases. Among these individuals, the vast majority were White (89%), 6% were Asian, 3% were Black, 1% were from mixed ethnic backgrounds, and 1% were from “other” ethnic backgrounds.

Also, there is a difference between “grooming gangs” and “pedophile rings” - the latter are which white men are substantially over-represented in, as well as image offences.

We can’t also ignore the fact that there have been so many high profile cases such as Jimmy Saville, Catholic Church, Church of England, Care Homes Gary Glitter, David Carrick (the UK’s most prolific serial rapist). Also “sex tourism” occurs where white men travel to countries such as Philippines, Thailand etc. and commit sexual offences, upon return to the UK a lot of them get caught with thousands of “category A” indecent images.

To top it off, about 97% of women in the UK have been sexual assaulted or have experienced some form of assault or harassment. Can’t blame immigrants or ethnic minorities for that, considering even the highest prevalence rate of domestic violence is amongst white people.

I can provide references for everything mentioned above if requested.