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Can India survive Day 3 and take the game to Australia?
 
I hope India survives. We need big ones from Mayank and Rahane.
 
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A big knock from Rahane here will seal him the man of the series award.
 
Indians have consistently punched above their weight in this series. I did not expect 5 new bowlers to bowl Aus in their home without conceding 500+ runs. If Indian batsmen can go big then they can save this test.

I still think Aus should win this.
 
Just hope Pujara bat whole day even if he scores just 60-70 runs. And a 50 each from Rahane , Mayank & Pant

Need to bat out tomorrow to have a chance to draw this test
 
Australia should win this...which I've been saying since the MCG test, but India keeps on doing what no one expects!

On paper this match should have been a farce - the available Indian bowling attack should have struggled against a prime minister's XI, but once again they have outdone themselves to get a full strength Aussie lineup below 400 on a decent batting pitch.

Cummins will be the key, if they can survive his spells and not lose wickets in a heap, this match may just end up in a draw (which will be an extraordinary achievement for this team). I back Aussies to win though.
 
HydratedTurnip said:
Australia should win this...which I've been saying since the MCG test, but India keeps on doing what no one expects!

On paper this match should have been a farce - the available Indian bowling attack should have struggled against a prime minister's XI, but once again they have outdone themselves to get a full strength Aussie lineup below 400 on a decent batting pitch.

Cummins will be the key, if they can survive his spells and not lose wickets in a heap, this match may just end up in a draw (which will be an extraordinary achievement for this team). I back Aussies to win though.
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I don't think Indian net bowlers will be able to stop Aus from scoring quick 200 runs in 2nd inning. The last inning is normally hard to bat in this venue. Aus should take this.
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
If Aussies knock india over today, they will force a result.
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Not necessarily. Forecast is similar on Day 4 and Day 5 as it was today. So, if we lose third session on both the days, then Australia will have to bat tomorrow and India will only have to survive two sessions on Day 5 wicket.
 
The forecast looks good today but there is rain on the last 2 days. Barring a collapse today they should be able to draw this.
 
How about instead of this predicament of the match, Indian batting should bat well and post 400 here to draw this match.
 
I just saw in the highlights, what was that shot by Rohit Sharma completely irresponsible behaviour from him.
 
Natarajan already tattooed up with little bit of IPL fame. Players from Subcontinent start losing their mind with little bit of fame.
 
Despite the Aussies being ahead I find their batting a concern and the form of Warner. They see to rely mainly on Smith and Marcus Lab and if they don’t perform not much else.
India doesn’t even have their main bowling line up and still Aussies can’t get past 400.
 
cricket4all said:
Despite the Aussies being ahead I find their batting a concern and the form of Warner. They see to rely mainly on Smith and Marcus Lab and if they don’t perform not much else.
India doesn’t even have their main bowling line up and still Aussies can’t get past 400.
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This is the weakest Australian batting line up for a long time. Aussies have alot of work to do to find good batsmens.
 
Today is the last playing day of this tour as next 2 days will be washout.
 
Rajdeep said:
Today is the last playing day of this tour as next 2 days will be washout.
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1-1 can be a fair result both teams played equally well. India is dominating Aus in Aus, what a turn around for Indian cricket, they are excellent team with exceptional talent coming through.
 
While Indians have bowled well and with discipline this series, Australia's lack of depth in batting is really starting to show. Gone are the days when it seemed like an unlimited supply of 50+ Avg batsmen were just raring to get their chance. Now it seems like they really have no one outside of their main 3 (Smith, Marnus and Warner) and they are just filling their 11 with the likes of Marcus Harris.
 
I think once England get moeen jofra stokes back then I'm confident we can beat India in india and Australia to justify the tag of the best in the world in all formats.
 
Extreme Pace said:
While Indians have bowled well and with discipline this series, Australia's lack of depth in batting is really starting to show. Gone are the days when it seemed like an unlimited supply of 50+ Avg batsmen were just raring to get their chance. Now it seems like they really have no one outside of their main 3 (Smith, Marnus and Warner) and they are just filling their 11 with the likes of Marcus Harris.
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I think Australia always had similar batting lineup. Most of the time Warner-Smith would do the bulk of the scoring and would shield the newbies. Apart from flat pitches, poor bowling from most opponents also make it easier for some of the lesser known Aussie batsmen to pile up runs at home. Couple years ago Australia had new comers like Renshaw, Handscomb and Bancroft, but now they are now where to be found. Labu will have tough time the moment he step foot in Asia.
What Indian team have shown in this series is that you need a genuine wicket takers to put pressure on Australian to crumble for below par score. Bowlers will win you matches in Australia
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
This is the weakest Australian batting line up for a long time. Aussies have alot of work to do to find good batsmens.
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But wasn't this the same batting line-up that played against Pakistan last year? They didn't seem weak then.

I would rather attribute this to the long break in cricket due to the pandemic. Except Warner, Smith n Cummins who played in the IPL none of the others played any competitive cricket. So they may be rusty though thats no excuse.
 
ex-q-zit said:
But wasn't this the same batting line-up that played against Pakistan last year? They didn't seem weak then.

I would rather attribute this to the long break in cricket due to the pandemic. Except Warner, Smith n Cummins who played in the IPL none of the others played any competitive cricket. So they may be rusty though thats no excuse.
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Pakistan is just not mentally tough enough to beat Australia in Aus. We went with inexperience bowling attack in Australia and it was embarrassing for the fans to see such a dismissal performance.

India has always enjoyed playing in Australia.
 
Rajdeep said:
Today is the last playing day of this tour as next 2 days will be washout.
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It was a few hours on both days as far as losing time goes. Did it change to rain the entire day?
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Pakistan is just not mentally tough enough to beat Australia in Aus. We went with inexperience bowling attack in Australia and it was embarrassing for the fans to see such a dismissal performance.

India has always enjoyed playing in Australia.
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Except under Dhoni’s leadership
 
Buffet said:
It was a few hours on both days as far as losing time goes. Did it change to rain the entire day?
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Even those few hours loss can increase chance of draw. This is why I can never rate test cricket. Rain, 5 days of play, 3 years running tournament. In contrast, MLB can dish out over 160 games for a team in a single season.
 
BDfanforever said:
Even those few hours loss can increase chance of draw. This is why I can never rate test cricket. Rain, 5 days of play, 3 years running tournament. In contrast, MLB can dish out over 160 games for a team in a single season.
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You probably don't realize that draw if it happens with just a few hours of loss means India played really well to get a draw with this team.
 
Australian bowlers look tired, the humongous bowling effort of the previous test looks to have taken a toll. If India gets a 1-1 draw in this series, they can consider themselves very proud where their C team gave Australias A team at home massive fits
 
Thank God Pujara is out. He is too boring. This guy is killing test cricket single handedly. Watch Rishab Pant save Test cricket now
 
Air Agarwal is in at the crease

The guy loves to play shots with his front foot in the air
 
How I miss Sachin whenever India plays Australia in Tests and ODI's.
 
Poor captaincy from Paine. Should get Starc or Cummins back against Mayank. He is a very good batsman against spin bowling. Looks like not enough homework done.
 
BDfanforever said:
Even those few hours loss can increase chance of draw. This is why I can never rate test cricket. Rain, 5 days of play, 3 years running tournament. In contrast, MLB can dish out over 160 games for a team in a single season.
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Yes as if ODI cricket continues even in rain. Atleast, test cricket dont have that farcical Duckworth Lewis rule...lol.
 
Looks like Australian bowlers have picked up the virus of “not bowling into the stumps” enough from the Pakistani bowlers since Sydney.

Very dangerous contagion this!
 
Pathetic from Rahane. He got off earlier when he edged into slips twice but he succumbed to that harmless Starc delivery.

Except for that ton at MCG, he has been a complete dud in this series.
 
Can we deny Lyon 400 test wickets in this test? Hope we do.
 
Pak fans thinks we dont have good WK batsmen, I think Rizwan is going to be a v good wk batsmen for Pakistan he has so much potential.
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Oh bhai kuch Batsmen banane ki medicine PCB ko bhi de do. India ke batting talent kamal hai yaar.
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You guys are known to produce fast bowlers like cotton candies (except lately), while we are known to do the same for young batsmen.
 
MP2011 said:
Pathetic from Rahane. He got off earlier when he edged into slips twice but he succumbed to that harmless Starc delivery.

Except for that ton at MCG, he has been a complete dud in this series.
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I would say Rahane is the Indian version of Asad Shafiq, his thought process and soft dismissals are inexcusable for a man of his experience and the fact he was captain today. Starc was continously pitching the ball, moving it outside the offstump, even a layman could tell what Australians were planning to do and he obliged them on a platter. Pathetic stuff.
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Can India make 250 here.
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250 is gettable before tea if these 2 survive the next session as both are strokeplayers. Even if one of them bat through the innings 250 is a reality but is that enough. India shouldn't let Aussies a lead of over 50 else a draw too will be difficult.
 
Hitman said:
You guys are known to produce fast bowlers like cotton candies (except lately), while we are known to do the same for young batsmen.
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Bhai ab tu bowling ko bhi nazar lag gayi hai, we haven’t produced any good bowler since Mohd Asif and Amir.

We are seriously lacking a good coach or may be short of talent is the reason of our decline.
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Bhai ab tu bowling ko bhi nazar lag gayi hai, we haven’t produced any good bowler since Mohd Asif and Amir.

We are seriously lacking a good coach or may be short of talent is the reason of our decline.
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Its not about talent but system and process. You tend to introduce them too early and discard them too early. A prime example is naseem shah. Whereas in India the under19s are introduced in Ranji and then India A tours and after good performances in both those platforms finally given an opportunity in national team. A prime example is Shubman Gill.

pakistan needs to give proper respect and value to its domestic structure by introducing youngsters to the domestic ciruit and after a couple of seasons then draft them to Shaheens and national teams.

Abdullah shafique has scored a century in the national t20 cup but has played only 1 first class match but has been fast tracked into the test series. He should have been tested in the domestic tournaments for a couple of seasons so that he gains the experience.
 
Wonder why Karun Nair was discarded after scoring a triple century? He could have been handy in the absence of Kohli and Vihari
 
Haha we were 36 all out not too long ago, so no, we don't have any great batting talent. They are definitely good and need to be encouraged though.

But PCT has some exciting batting talent coming up. Babar is a superstar, and Rizwan is a good find. And Hafeez 3.0 is a revelation. I liked watching Haider Ali bat in the T20. Need 3-4 more batsmen to build a strong core. Your bowling is also coming together with the return of Hasan Ali. Exciting days ahead for you guys, starting with the SA series.

lahoriyah1234 said:
Oh bhai kuch Batsmen banane ki medicine PCB ko bhi de do. India ke batting talent kamal hai yaar.
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He is not international quality. That 300 against a tired hapless English bowling attack was a fluke. He will struggle to get a 30 in overseas conditions.
 
ex-q-zit said:
Its not about talent but system and process. You tend to introduce them too early and discard them too early. A prime example is naseem shah. Whereas in India the under19s are introduced in Ranji and then India A tours and after good performances in both those platforms finally given an opportunity in national team. A prime example is Shubman Gill.

pakistan needs to give proper respect and value to its domestic structure by introducing youngsters to the domestic ciruit and after a couple of seasons then draft them to Shaheens and national teams.

Abdullah shafique has scored a century in the national t20 cup but has played only 1 first class match but has been fast tracked into the test series. He should have been tested in the domestic tournaments for a couple of seasons so that he gains the experience.
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Indian system and the process they are following to introduce the cricketers at international level is a great example of well thought out process and it is working great for them.

I don’t like this 6 teams formula, I personally believe it can work in Australia because they are using this system for many years, but in Pakistan where cricket is the only sports where kids want to become cricketers, but now it is reduced to only 6 teams, it wont work.

I hope PCB look into this and allow first class cricket and domestic cricket both a chance to flow and see if it produced more cricketers for us, because current it looks good for the TV but many good talent is going away or will not get a chance ever, especially Parchi system in Pakistan.

I hope we have a good team in the coming years.
 
What is Indian batting doing here, throwing bat at the wrong ball instead leaving them alone, something Williamson can teach the world how to bat in test cricket. He was looking good.
 
165-5 .. would have been much better if foolish Rohit Sharma didn't keep hitting in the air. He looked the only indian batsman comfortable on this pitch.
 
sharmaji said:
Haha we were 36 all out not too long ago, so no, we don't have any great batting talent. They are definitely good and need to be encouraged though.

But PCT has some exciting batting talent coming up. Babar is a superstar, and Rizwan is a good find. And Hafeez 3.0 is a revelation. I liked watching Haider Ali bat in the T20. Need 3-4 more batsmen to build a strong core. Your bowling is also coming together with the return of Hasan Ali. Exciting days ahead for you guys, starting with the SA series.
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On one hand you mention 36 all out in a test match and compare that performance with t20 players (hafeez, haider) from pakistan which is like comparing apples with oranges. 36 all out is a once in a bluemoon occurence. India has followed that up with 2 remarkable performances in the following test matches. So dismissing of the team based on one off session doesn't make sense.
 
Extreme Pace said:
While Indians have bowled well and with discipline this series, Australia's lack of depth in batting is really starting to show. Gone are the days when it seemed like an unlimited supply of 50+ Avg batsmen were just raring to get their chance. Now it seems like they really have no one outside of their main 3 (Smith, Marnus and Warner) and they are just filling their 11 with the likes of Marcus Harris.
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That is the same with most of the countries. Even Indians don’t have many test quality batsmen. I would blame T20s.
 
Manunited18 said:
I think once England get moeen jofra stokes back then I'm confident we can beat India in india and Australia to justify the tag of the best in the world in all formats.
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How will moeen and jofra help in winning in India? Moeen is mediocre spinner and Joffra’s pace is not gonna work in India unless he learns to reverse swing the SG ball like Indian bowlers.
 
Oh no, I am not dismissing the Indian batting. I was responding to the poster who said India is producing phenomenal batting talent; we have good batsmen but they are still work in progress, case in point: the way Rohit, Rahane and Mayank got out in this match.

ex-q-zit said:
On one hand you mention 36 all out in a test match and compare that performance with t20 players (hafeez, haider) from pakistan which is like comparing apples with oranges. 36 all out is a once in a bluemoon occurence. India has followed that up with 2 remarkable performances in the following test matches. So dismissing of the team based on one off session doesn't make sense.
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