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Bangladesh tour of West Indies (2024) - Discussion Thread

Listening to it for a few minutes. I can say one thing. Nobody in the WI commentary box likes this Athar Ali Khan lol They just don't say it.
 
BD haven't won a Test in West Indies since 2009. They won 2-0 in 2009 against a depleted West Indian side.
 
All over.

BD win the Test by 101 runs.

They have drawn the series 1-1.

Congratulations.
 
I think Rana will be a permanent member in the playing XI going forward. That would mean leaving out Taijul or Shoriful. Both good as well.
 
This BD win means Windies need to win 2-0 against Pakistan if they want to avoid finishing last in WTC.

Pakistan can do a favor to BD by beating West Indies.

:qdkcheeky
 
jnaveen1980 said:
It is up to cricket boards. But looking at the crowd it is one test too many.
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May sound surprising but Test cricket you cant really base it on crowds, as reality is test cricket wont bring much crowd at all for most matches, which needs to be accepted.

Rather it needs to be based on a fair WTC cycle where everyone plays everyone, 3-match series only, 24 matches for everyone.

But again I am not all familiar with the money, profit side of cricket and ICC.
 
BD made a blunder by not playing Nahid in 1st Test. They could've won 2-0 probably.

Nahid was the primary catalyst for BD in this Test.
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
May sound surprising but Test cricket you cant really base it on crowds, as reality is test cricket wont bring much crowd at all for most matches, which needs to be accepted.

Rather it needs to be based on a fair WTC cycle where everyone plays everyone, 3-match series only, 24 matches for everyone.

But again I am not all familiar with the money, profit side of cricket and ICC.
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Even boards like NZ, SA don't prefer long series due to cost involved.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Even boards like NZ, SA don't prefer long series due to cost involved.
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Fair enough, Im just someone who has been very annoyed at cricket for a long while now with how behind it is, and the unfair conditions some of its competitions brings.

But are you able to quickly summarise the main costs with Test cricket that make it challenging? Because I am curious
 
jnaveen1980 said:
BD bowling unit is really good. Especilaly pace unit is good. Probably the 2nd best in Asia?
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May be 2nd best pace bowling attack. Taijul is good but we lack a good leg spinner,if we had that then we could have a overall 2nd best bowling attack. Apart from India no team in Asia possess a threatening bowling attack in Asia.
 
That concludes BD's WTC.

BD finish this WTC edition with 4 wins. An improvement from previous WTCs where they won only 1 game in 2 WTCs.
 
Bangladesh completed their first Test match win in the Caribbean in 15 years with a dominant 101-run victory over the West Indies at Sabina Park to draw their two-match series 1-1 on Tuesday.

The tourists started Tuesday’s play in a strong position, 193-5 in 41.4 overs, leading by 211 in their second innings with Jaker Ali and Taijul Islam in the middle on 29 and 9, respectively.

Islam added a further five runs before becoming the first batsman dismissed on the day, caught by Kavem Hodge off the bowling of Alzarri Joseph in the 50th over if the innings.

The wicket of Mominul Haque followed soon after for a duck, leaving Bangladesh 211-7 in the 51st over and giving the hosts hope of wrapping up the innings in quick time to try and secure a series win with the bat.

Ali had other ideas, however, scoring rapidly in the midst of the falling wickets at the other end due to some adventurous stroke making, entertaining the small Sabina Park crowd.

Hasan Mahmud (3) and Taskin Ahmed (0) came and went during Ali’s onslaught that saw Bangladesh make it all the way to 268 all out off 59.5 overs.

Ali, in just his third Test match, was the last man dismissed for a crucial 91 off just 106 balls including eight fours and five sixes.

Kemar Roach finished with 3-36 off 10 overs while Alzarri Joseph and Shamar Joseph also had good spells with 3-77 and 2-80 off 15.5 and 12 overs, respectively.

Set 287 to win, West Indian openers Kraigg Brathwaite and Mikyle Louis set out to first ensure that they got to the lunch break without the loss of a wicket.

The post lunch session started with Brathwaite and new batsman Keacy Carty attempting to get stuck into some disciplined Bangladesh bowling.

Almost ten overs into the session, however, Carty played at one to many, edging behind to Litton Das off the bowling of Taijul Islam for 14 leaving the hosts 57-2, needing a further 230 to win.

35 runs later, Brathwaite got a beauty from Islam producing an edge that was parried off the gloves of Das into the arms of the diving Mahmudul Hasan Joy at first slip.

Brathwaite made an uncharacteristic 63-ball 43 including two fours and a six.

Three quickly became four as Islam struck once again, this time breaching the defense of Alick Athanaze for five to leave the hosts 106-4 in the 27th over with hopes of a win looking dimmer by the second.

Kavem Hodge and Justin Greaves tried to steady proceedings with a 37-run fifth wicket partnership, which lasted through the tea break.

During that partnership, Hodge brought up his third Test fifty before being dismissed not long after, trapped in front for 55 by Islam with the score on 143 in the 39th over.

Unfortunately, even that task proved too much as, in the fifth over of the innings and final one before lunch, Louis (6) played a full delivery from left arm spinner Taijul Islam onto his foot which then lobbed in the air to be caught by Shahadat Hossain fielding at short leg, leaving the West Indies 23-1 off 4.2 overs at lunch.

The wickets of Justin Greaves (20) in the 43rd over and Joshua Da Silva (12) in the 46th over basically ended all hope for what already looked like an improbable victory. Da Silva’s wicket brought up Islam’s 15th five wicket haul in Tests.

Fast bowlers Hasan Mahmud and first innings hero Nahid Rana combined with the wickets of Alzarri Joseph (5), Kemar Roach (8) and Shamar Joseph (8) to bowl out the West Indies for 185 in 50 overs and secure Bangladesh’s first win in the Caribbean since 2009.

Islam’s final figures were 5-50 off 17 overs while Mahmud and Taskin Ahmed took 2-20 from six overs and 2-45 from 10 overs, respectively.
 
Mainul said:
May be 2nd best pace bowling attack. Taijul is good but we lack a good leg spinner,if we had that then we could have a overall 2nd best bowling attack. Apart from India no team in Asia possess a threatening bowling attack in Asia.
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Pretty impressive stuff. Definitely. A complete attack. Hope they manage Nahid Rana well. It is very rare to have a 145k bowler.
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
Fair enough, Im just someone who has been very annoyed at cricket for a long while now with how behind it is, and the unfair conditions some of its competitions brings.

But are you able to quickly summarise the main costs with Test cricket that make it challenging? Because I am curious
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This is the response from Cricket South Africa

www.iol.co.za

‘People don’t show up ...’ Why less Tests makes financial sense for Cricket South Africa

‘I love watching Test cricket, but unfortunately it’s not just about the emotions, there’s also finances that need to be covered. ’ - CSA chief executive Pholetsi Moseki
www.iol.co.za www.iol.co.za

‘People don’t show up ...’ Why less Tests makes financial sense for Cricket South Africa​

 
Jayden Seales and Kevin Sinclair fined for breaching the ICC Code of Conduct

West Indies bowlers, Jayden Seales and Kevin Sinclair have been found guilty of breaching the ICC Code of Conduct in their recently concluded second Test match against Bangladesh.

Seales has been fined 25 per cent of his match fee after being found to have breached article 2.20 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel which relates to “conduct that is contrary to the spirit of the game.”

In addition to this, one demerit point has been added to Seales’ disciplinary record, for whom it was the first offence in a 24-month period.

The incident occurred in the first over of Bangladesh’s second batting innings when Seales made an inappropriate and overly aggressive gesture towards the opposition’s dressing room after taking a wicket.

Sinclair has been fined 15 per cent of his match fee after he was was found to have breached Article 2.4 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, which relates to “Disobeying an Umpire’s instruction during an International Match.”

In addition to his fine, one demerit point has been added to Sinclair’s disciplinary record, for whom it was the first offence in a 24-month period.

The incident took place when Sinclair ignored the instructions of the on-field umpires to stop using language deemed aggressive and harsh towards the Bangladesh batters.

Seales and Sinclair admitted their respective offences and accepted the sanctions proposed by Jeff Crowe of the Emirates ICC Elite Panel of Match Referees and, as such, there was no need for a formal hearing.

On-field umpires Asif Yaqoob and Kumar Dharmasena, third umpire Nitin Menon and fourth umpire, Zahid Bassarath levelled the charges.

Level 1 breaches carry a minimum penalty of an official reprimand, a maximum penalty of 50 per cent of a player’s match fee, and one or two demerit points.
 
Injuries to key quicks forces West Indies into squad re-shuffle

A blow for the West Indies ahead of their three-game series against Bangladesh.

The West Indies have been forced to make two changes to their playing squad for their upcoming home ODI series against Bangladesh.

Pacers Matthew Forde and Shamar Joseph have been battling injury and have been withdrawn from the playing group for the three-match series that commences in St Kitts & Nevis on December 8, with fellow quicks Marquino Mindley and Jediah Blades drafted into the 15-member squad.

Forde has been trying to shake off a thigh injury he picked up against England last month, while Joseph has been suffering from shin splints he picked up during the West Indies' recent Test series against Bangladesh.

Mindley wins his first international ODI call-up after being the leading wicket-taker during the recent Super 50 ODI tournament, while Blades is also in line to win his first cap after some strong performances at the same event.

All three ODI matches against Bangladesh will be held in St Kitts & Nevis, with the first contest on December 8 before further games on December 10 and December 12.

West Indies squad: Shai Hope (c), Brandon King (vc), Jediah Blades, Keacy Carty, Roston Chase, Justin Greaves, Shimron Hetmyer, Amir Jangoo (wk), Alzarri Joseph, Evin Lewis, Marquino Mindley, Gudakesh Motie, Sherfane Rutherford, Jayden Seales, Romario Shepherd

Series schedule:

First ODI: December 8, St Kitts & Nevis
Second ODI: December 10, St Kitts & Nevis
Third ODI: December 12, St Kitts & Nevis

ICC
 
jnaveen1980 said:
This is the response from Cricket South Africa

www.iol.co.za

‘People don’t show up ...’ Why less Tests makes financial sense for Cricket South Africa

‘I love watching Test cricket, but unfortunately it’s not just about the emotions, there’s also finances that need to be covered. ’ - CSA chief executive Pholetsi Moseki
www.iol.co.za www.iol.co.za

‘People don’t show up ...’ Why less Tests makes financial sense for Cricket South Africa​

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Yep. South Africa get bigger crowds for ODIs and T20Is..

Apart from the odd result, I dont see Test cricket doing anything for the Caribbean either.

Apart from that freak Gabba win, they are struggling everywhere, even at home.

Should focus only on white ball cricket
 
ODI series is starting today.

1st ODI.

BD have won the toss and decided to bat first.
 

West Indies vs Bangladesh, 1st ODI​


Bangladesh have won the toss and have opted to bat

West Indies (Playing XI): Brandon King, Evin Lewis, Keacy Carty, Shai Hope(w/c), Sherfane Rutherford, Justin Greaves, Roston Chase, Romario Shepherd, Gudakesh Motie, Alzarri Joseph, Jayden Seales

Bangladesh (Playing XI): Tanzid Hasan, Soumya Sarkar, Litton Das, Afif Hossain, Mahmudullah, Mehidy Hasan Miraz(c), Jaker Ali(w), Rishad Hossain, Tanzim Hasan Sakib, Taskin Ahmed, Nahid Rana
 
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Tanzid is on 37* from 29 balls. He is looking good out there. Can he get his maiden ODI century?

BD - 76/2 (12.3 overs).
 
BD - 80/2 (14 overs).

So far so good for BD. These two (Mehidy and Tanzid) need to stay there till 35th over minimum.
 
Tanzid has been weak against off spin in the past. Not sure why Windies are not bowling Chase to Tanzid
 
Pitch seems very good for the batting. Always rooted for talented Tanzid Tamim so far it's pleasing to see his batting. He needs to capitalize on his fifty here. BD should score 325-350 here.
 
Imran Hasan said:
Pitch seems very good for the batting. Always rooted for talented Tanzid Tamim so far it's pleasing to see his batting. He needs to capitalize on his fifty here. BD should score 325-350 here.
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Windies batting isn't that great. I think 280 would be enough considering BD have Nahid Rana, Taskin, and Tanzim.

But, 325-350 would be better obviously. BD should aim to cross 300.
 
BD - 125/2 (23 overs).

Tanzid is on 60*. Mehidy is on 37*.

Partnership is worth 79 runs.
 
BD - 154/3 (29 overs).

Need to get another 150 from the final 21 overs. That can take the score beyond 300.
 
Previous 11 ODIs between these sides have all been won by BD.

294 has never been successfully chased down at St. Kitts .

Bangladesh heavy favourites to make it 12-0
 
I am not sure what Afif Hossain did to come back into the side. Very strange selections and batting order as usual by BD.
 
BDfanforever said:
I am not sure what Afif Hossain did to come back into the side. Very strange selections and batting order as usual by BD.
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Who should be selected instead of him?

He did okay today. Was involved in an important 54-run partnership.

I think Afif is fine for ODI format.
 
Windies lose 2 quick wickets. BD are on top now.

WI - 27/2 (8.1 overs; target: 295).
 
sweep_shot said:
Who should be selected instead of him?

He did okay today. Was involved in an important 54-run partnership.

I think Afif is fine for ODI format.
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That's not the point. Point is he was dropped due to poor performances, and haven't done enough to get back into the side.
 
Mahmadullah is a solid player but he is very old. Do BD have plan to phase him out?
 
Windies - 259/4 (44 overs).

36 are needed from 36 balls.

BD need 2-3 tight overs or else Windies should win easily.
 
Bd had the upper hand for most of the chase when WI were playing cautiously but Rutherford has really changed the equation and now WI shall cross the line to victory.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Previous 11 ODIs between these sides have all been won by BD.

294 has never been successfully chased down at St. Kitts .

Bangladesh heavy favourites to make it 12-0
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Record chase at St. Kitts conceded by Bangladesh

As bad as it gets. Already they are struggling in T20's.

By 2027 , BD could well be 10th as an ODI side
 
BD - 294/6 (50 overs).
Windies - 295/5 (47.4 overs).

Windies win by 5 wickets and go up 1-0.
 
Greaves
Lewis
Carty
Hope
Rutherford

That is a solid ODI batting lineup . Building up nicely for 2027.
 
Sherfane Rutherford's maiden ODI century powered West Indies to a five-wicket win over Bangladesh in St Kitts, breaking an 11-match losing streak. Chasing 295, the hosts overcame a sluggish start, reaching the target with 14 balls to spare. Rutherford's explosive 113 off 80 balls (7x4, 8x6) turned the game, supported by Shai Hope's 86 and Justin Greaves' unbeaten 41.

At one stage, West Indies needed 161 from 114 balls, but partnerships of 99 between Rutherford and Hope and 95 between Rutherford and Greaves kept them in the hunt. Rutherford, struck twice on the helmet during his innings, reached his century dramatically via overthrows and celebrated with back-to-back sixes before falling with just seven runs needed.

Earlier, Bangladesh posted 294/7, driven by Mehidy Hasan's 74 and key partnerships, including a late surge from Mahmudullah (50*) and Jaker Ali (48). Romario Shepherd claimed three wickets, while Alzarri Joseph impressed with early breakthroughs. Despite their efforts, Bangladesh's bowlers struggled to contain Rutherford's onslaught in the death overs.
 
Well played Rutherford been in fine form
Recently. If it wasn’t for him and hope, bd would have won
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Sherfane Rutherford's maiden ODI century powered West Indies to a five-wicket win over Bangladesh in St Kitts, breaking an 11-match losing streak. Chasing 295, the hosts overcame a sluggish start, reaching the target with 14 balls to spare. Rutherford's explosive 113 off 80 balls (7x4, 8x6) turned the game, supported by Shai Hope's 86 and Justin Greaves' unbeaten 41.

At one stage, West Indies needed 161 from 114 balls, but partnerships of 99 between Rutherford and Hope and 95 between Rutherford and Greaves kept them in the hunt. Rutherford, struck twice on the helmet during his innings, reached his century dramatically via overthrows and celebrated with back-to-back sixes before falling with just seven runs needed.

Earlier, Bangladesh posted 294/7, driven by Mehidy Hasan's 74 and key partnerships, including a late surge from Mahmudullah (50*) and Jaker Ali (48). Romario Shepherd claimed three wickets, while Alzarri Joseph impressed with early breakthroughs. Despite their efforts, Bangladesh's bowlers struggled to contain Rutherford's onslaught in the death overs.
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For the first time since 2018, the West Indies have defeated Bangladesh in an ODI, breaking a streak of 11 consecutive losses.
 
Bangladesh's dominating run against the West Indies in ODIs came to an end after the West Indies defeated them in the 1st ODI. Bangladesh skipper Mehidy Hasan Miraz said in the post-match press conference:

"The century was not an issue for me and all I needed was to take the team to a good place. I tried to play for runs and put up a good score before 40 overs because I was feeling that in this wicket if we could post 300 plus it would have been good for us and that is the reason I played for runs."

"Look when I started, a set batsman got out and in fact two set batters got out as Tanzim was out and after doing a partnership Afif also I could not take risk because I knew if a set batsman gets out, it will be a pressure for the new batsman and so I tried to continue. And when Riyad [Mahmudullah] bhai got set I tried to take the charge."

"The way Jaker Ali and Riyad bhai finished was brilliant and if that was not the case the runs could [have been] lesser but we played well as a batting unit."

"Batting wise we batted well and put up a good total and our bowlers also started well but in the middle overs, they did a partnership and we could not get wickets and that middle-over partnership put us in the back foot."

"Our bowlers did well in the first half [of the chase] as the game was in our control for first 25 to 30 overs and they took the game away from us in the last 20 overs when they charged, but still I feel we have lot of positives... like our batsmen did well and bowlers bowled well initially and we could have won the game if we could improve on certain areas."
 
Disappointing staff.
Should have defended it. Bangladesh missed Shakib here in middle overs.

Bangladesh should have tried Taijul. Mehedy hasan Miraz has been in off form with the ball
 
2nd ODI Update

West Indies won the toss and decided to field

Bangladesh 45/2 after 9 overs
 
BD Struggling, but they can still make a match out of it if they can put together a decent total. It is a used pitch, so anything around 210 can be difficult to chase against slower bowlers.
 
I expect West Indies to whitewash Bangladesh 3-0 and expose BD completely in this series.

BD should be made to qualify for the next World Cup.
 
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