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Bangladesh v England | 2nd Test | Dhaka | Oct 28-Nov 1, 2016 | Day 2

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Continuation of this exciting match. Ali and Root will be facing up to a barrage of spin in approximately 50 minutes.
 
England playing too much with teams like Pakistan and Bangladesh.
 
the Difference is Pakistan is No 2 in test and Bangladesh is at No 9 So No

England is not playing team like pakistan,bangladesh:inti

I am talking about playing too much with subcontinental sides these days. Next they play India
 
Root- Bairstow still there.

England can still get to 200+ score.
 
Are there more of than 5 people present in the stadium? If Bangladesh isn't going to provide a good atmosphere why would countries show up im Bangladesh to play test cricket?
 
Are there more of than 5 people present in the stadium? If Bangladesh isn't going to provide a good atmosphere why would countries show up im Bangladesh to play test cricket?

Someone said the same nonsense on Day 1 of Chittagong Test, which didn't go well, you know. The CTG Test had more people on Day 4 than an entire 5 Test series brings in Pakistan & if I start to count that for UAE, then you won't find even 22 players in UAE grounds.

This is just the 2nd morning - people will come. Yesterday, there were more than 3K people at the stadium.
 
Someone said the same nonsense on Day 1 of Chittagong Test, which didn't go well, you know. The CTG Test had more people on Day 4 than an entire 5 Test series brings in Pakistan & if I start to count that for UAE, then you won't find even 22 players in UAE grounds.

This is just the 2nd morning - people will come. Yesterday, there were more than 3K people at the stadium.

I don't see how bringing Pakistan and UAE is relevant but if that's the case Bangladeshis should be last person to talk about test cricket..

It's a Saturday and stadium is totally empty. For most part of first test stadiums were empty as well. You can cry all you want but the fact is Bangladeshis has lost a good opportunity here. If they had turned in good numbers they might have gotten their next test sooner... keep waiting for another 15 months..
 
I don't see how bringing Pakistan and UAE is relevant but if that's the case Bangladeshis should be last person to talk about test cricket..

It's a Saturday and stadium is totally empty. For most part of first test stadiums were empty as well. You can cry all you want but the fact is Bangladeshis has lost a good opportunity here. If they had turned in good numbers they might have gotten their next test sooner... keep waiting for another 15 months..

Why penalize the players just cause some fans didnt show up ? Test cricket is dying in general.
 
Mehdi is looking like Ashwin mk.2, unplayable on minefields!

Actually, he is giving too many hit able balls for the wicket. Finger spinners should be much more tight & on such mine fields, they should be able to tie batsmen with 7-2 field. Kid is good & still learning, but many of his wickets actually tells the standard of spin play these days - Nayan Mongia would have been one of the best spin player of this current generation, so would have been Moin & Kalu. With 133 Tests & almost 11K runs, Cook has been out 3 times in his 1st spell with new ball, before the wicket had broken up properly - that's modern standard of spin play. Players with good footwork won't have allowed him to drop the ball on so many different spots & get away with that. And it's not about spin only - sometimes in 1996, Rahul almost carried bat for 66* against SAF on a Durban flier, next year Syed played a match winning 118 on same venue - against that SAF attack, I won't bet for MODERN IND & PAK team to cross that individual mark these days.

Modern cricket is dynamic, powerful & aggressive - as long as the boundary is 60 metres & there is absolutely no grass or spin on the wicket - it looks great to spank through the line with mallets.
 
I don't see how bringing Pakistan and UAE is relevant but if that's the case Bangladeshis should be last person to talk about test cricket..

It's a Saturday and stadium is totally empty. For most part of first test stadiums were empty as well. You can cry all you want but the fact is Bangladeshis has lost a good opportunity here. If they had turned in good numbers they might have gotten their next test sooner... keep waiting for another 15 months..

Bangladesh is a pathetic Test side - and we are losing a good opportunity, what has that to do with your post? We had to wait a bit longer because AUS declined to tour & BCB decided not to host home Test out side BD - some thing has kept PAK waiting for 89 months & still counting.

PAK is relevant because with less than 5 crowds, still team is doing very well & there is no shortage of fixtures. Enjoy the game - don't put stupid comments that has no meaning in the quality of the contest. This is becoming to be a fantastic Test & I am sure sure millions are glued on their TV set.
 
May be, we can get a small lead of 25-35 here, which'll be massive. Also, 1st innings was tell of 2 stories - a fantastic 170 runs partnership, which on this wicket clearly tells that Poms got their line & length wrong, then a melt down of 9/49. In 2nd innings, I don't see either happening - so, again the total could be around 220. A target of 250 won't be easy for England.
 
Actually, he is giving too many hit able balls for the wicket. Finger spinners should be much more tight & on such mine fields, they should be able to tie batsmen with 7-2 field. Kid is good & still learning, but many of his wickets actually tells the standard of spin play these days - Nayan Mongia would have been one of the best spin player of this current generation, so would have been Moin & Kalu. With 133 Tests & almost 11K runs, Cook has been out 3 times in his 1st spell with new ball, before the wicket had broken up properly - that's modern standard of spin play. Players with good footwork won't have allowed him to drop the ball on so many different spots & get away with that. And it's not about spin only - sometimes in 1996, Rahul almost carried bat for 66* against SAF on a Durban flier, next year Syed played a match winning 118 on same venue - against that SAF attack, I won't bet for MODERN IND & PAK team to cross that individual mark these days.

Modern cricket is dynamic, powerful & aggressive - as long as the boundary is 60 metres & there is absolutely no grass or spin on the wicket - it looks great to spank through the line with mallets.

Mehdi has 12 wickets so far in 3 inns with 2 fivers, Ashwin who? Ashwin has an ER of ~3 in Tests while Sir J has an ER of 2.25.
 
Mehdi has 12 wickets so far in 3 inns with 2 fivers, Ashwin who? Ashwin has an ER of ~3 in Tests while Sir J has an ER of 2.25.

I have watched almost every ball of his & I have watched Ash/Jad as well. It's not athletics that you can say Carl Lewis was faster than Jesse Owens or Bolt is faster than Lewis. It's a game where individual contest with each others - Miraz is running through a Pom side with Root & Cook in it; 30 years back Viv Richards chased 288 in 2 sessions against Indian spinner on a Delhi turners - it's a never ending debate. Mahela scored runs against Shane, Chandimal scoring against Zampa - take your pick, I won't say which pair is better.

Root gone, may be we'll get a 50+ lead & hope that boys loses 9/49 after a 170 runs partnership again.
 
Like us, I can clearly see, ENG batting order is not balanced - 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 are lefti; which allows spinners to settle.
 
Looks like England will be innings defeat whitewashed by India. I will be surprise if they score over 150 against Ashwin, Jadeja and Mishra. Ducker, Balance... needs to be kicked out
 
Bangladesh should get a good 40 run lead at least. And if they don't bottle it should go on to set a match winning target of 220+ against England in the 4th innings.

Honestly this is BD's game to lose.
 
Boys are getting too excited, won't be surprised if Poms get 40-50 for last 2 wickets. The key word to bowl on turning wickets against lower order is "Tight". Bowl on a particular spot & choke the runs - one by one they will get out.
 
Looks like England will be innings defeat whitewashed by India. I will be surprise if they score over 150 against Ashwin, Jadeja and Mishra. Ducker, Balance... needs to be kicked out

England have a psychological grip over India.

They are preparing well for our series with the Bangladesh. Maybe we may whitewash them but lots of things have to go right. Let's see.

If England get the pitches like NZ got, they will score 300-400 and put a lot of pressure on us.

Interesting series nonetheless.
 
I hope Aussies tour BD within a year or two..... for a Test Series.
 
Boys are getting too excited, won't be surprised if Poms get 40-50 for last 2 wickets. The key word to bowl on turning wickets against lower order is "Tight". Bowl on a particular spot & choke the runs - one by one they will get out.

Rank turners are fascinating.

It gives bowlers bigger margin of errors in terms of line and length but very little margin of error in terms of bad sessions. If bowlers miss their mark for even 1 or 2 sessions, a potential win can turn into a loss.

Bangladesh screwed up last test due to their bowling in 3rd innings. Even in first innings of that test, I heard they got too excited and let the tail wag with indisciplined bowling.

O hope Bangladesh hold their nerve for this test.
 
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Great to see Mehdi Hasan pick up another 5fer.

One more 5fer and Bangladesh can possibly draw this series. :D
 
Rank turners are fascinating.

It gives bowlers bigger margin of errors in terms of line and length but very little margin of error in terms of bad sessions. If bowlers miss their mark for even 1 or 2 sessions, a potential win can turn into a loss.

Bangladesh screwed up last test due to their bowling in 3rd innings. Even in first innings, I heard they got too excited and let the tail wag with indisciplined bowling.

True - these are experience. I an tell you that BD batted as good as any team can manage these days in 4th innings, but got too excited with 61-5, tried to get ENG all-out for 120. This is where experience teams choke the batting side once the top order is gone. I see too much excitement from the boys with 2 wickets still to go - just bowl on spot & make then earn every run.
 
True - these are experience. I an tell you that BD batted as good as any team can manage these days in 4th innings, but got too excited with 61-5, tried to get ENG all-out for 120. This is where experience teams choke the batting side once the top order is gone. I see too much excitement from the boys with 2 wickets still to go - just bowl on spot & make then earn every run.

Yeah...I would have never imagined them to almost chase down 280 in 4th innings regardless of the opposition spinners. That was one brilliant performance.
 
I am at the stadium and there is about 2000 people here

My first test match and I am excited about it. Even though today is a Saturday most institutions are open today.
 
22 for this wicket & I knew it was coming - Mushi & boys just lost the concentration. f they are not careful, ENG will get a small lead here.
 
22 for this wicket & I knew it was coming - Mushi & boys just lost the concentration. f they are not careful, ENG will get a small lead here.

Lead? Not too sure. ENG will be happy to add on even 20 more runs.
 
Lead? Not too sure. ENG will be happy to add on even 20 more runs.

I am telling a pattern - against tail, make them earn for every run & ENG actually has very little tail. Every innings, boys took it too easy after 5/6 down, now they are doing that after 8 down. The general clue is, late order should not get any single - make them go for big hit or choke them down- here Mushi is giving 2/3 singles, means bowlers are trying too many variations.
 
I am telling a pattern - against tail, make them earn for every run & ENG actually has very little tail. Every innings, boys took it too easy after 5/6 down, now they are doing that after 8 down. The general clue is, late order should not get any single - make them go for big hit or choke them down- here Mushi is giving 2/3 singles, means bowlers are trying too many variations.

Agreed, I remember last test match, these two added some valuable runs down the order and it eventually cost BD the match.
 
The long batting line doing a bit of a rescue job for England. Though BD should have cleaned England up by now. A lead under 30 will give England hope of victory.
 
22 for this wicket & I knew it was coming - Mushi & boys just lost the concentration. f they are not careful, ENG will get a small lead here.

Somewhere England manages to get runs in the lower order and somehow there is a collapse in Bangladeshi lower order.That has been the highlights of this series so far.

I don't like the idea of keeping Sakib off for a long time.Taizul's bowling doesn't look impressive at all as a frontline spinner on these spinning wickets of Chittagong and Dhaka. I think Abdur Razzaq would have been a better choice.Thought on Taizul?@MMHS [MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION].
 
Absolute rubbish by Mushi - two right handers, now the time is to bowl both left arm spinners with 6-3 filed & make them hit across line or dot. Hope ENG doesn't get a small lead here.
 
Somewhere England manages to get runs in the lower order and somehow there is a collapse in Bangladeshi lower order.That has been the highlights of this series so far.

I don't like the idea of keeping Sakib off for a long time.Taizul's bowling doesn't look impressive at all as a frontline spinner on these spinning wickets of Chittagong and Dhaka. I think Abdur Razzaq would have been a better choice.Thought on Taizul?@MMHS [MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION].

Bowl maidens - but that's not likely to happen with the pair bowling now.
 
Again bad captaincy by Mushi to make this game slipping away from Bangladesh.
 
Get these guys out already. Bring on shakib. Mushfiq is really frustrating sometimes. Even a tiny lead tips this game in favour of England. 4th innings chase on this pitch under pressure with the series on the line will be too difficult.
 
On this squire turner, what are they doing I am not sure. This is not the way one chokes the tail - 90% of the balls won't hit the stick. Fundamental of bowling to lower order is, you miss - I hit. Best spinner under such condition is Jadeja - he'll hit the stick every time, no matter right or left hander on bat or over/round the wicket he is bowling.
 
Mushfiqur has a problem with Sakib.Every time i see whenever there is a need to bowl Sakib in tandem he turns to his favorite Taizul who don't have the capabilities of taking wickets.
 
Mushfiqur has a problem with Sakib.Every time i see whenever there is a need to bowl Sakib in tandem he turns to his favorite Taizul who don't have the capabilities of taking wickets.

I can tell you, the game is in ENG's favor now. They won't bowl with same length like 1st innings. I told in 1st Test as well that the gap will be less than 45 runs, & this time it could be by less than 3 wickets. This is at per with MoYo at SCG.
 
Atrocious captaincy. Is this guy experimenting at this stage of the game???
 
Captain is an awful reader of match situation. Someone like Tamim or Shakib should go up to this guy and wake him up
 
Get these guys out already. Bring on shakib. Mushfiq is really frustrating sometimes. Even a tiny lead tips this game in favour of England. 4th innings chase on this pitch under pressure with the series on the line will be too difficult.

Oops ignore that bold part got kind of confused there. It's 3 am here so....
 
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Atrocious captaincy. Is this guy experimenting at this stage of the game???

Tight Test demands the most tactical Captaincy. For ODI, defending 220, once you have a team 149/8, you have won; not in Test. Mushi & boys took it too easily.
 
Why this idiot bowling part-time offie to right handers?
 
Why this idiot bowling part-time offie to right handers?

Captain fantastic knows that they still have a 20 run lead so he can experiment for the next game. He will bring on shakib when deficit is 5 runs
 
BD's hardwork being undone by Woakes and Rashid. Poor stuff and now the game is once again pretty much in the balance
 
3 - 4 overs like this at a stress, BD would have been batting by now.
 
60+ Partnership, I won't be surprised If England gives a 50+ run lead, Mushfiq brain farting like there's no tomorrow.
 
This must be infuriating for Bangladeshi fans.

Actually, quite predictable - this is probably 6th or 7th time, a Test match against BD is decided by the tail. LO cricket doesn't need bowling concentration - you can choke a side with run rate pressure - from the body language of the boys, I was expecting something like this.
 
I would pick Rashid over Riyadh simply for his batting. Rashid shouldn't bowl anymore and concentrate on his batting, he's a better batsman than half the Bangladesh team.
 
I would pick Rashid over Riyadh simply for his batting. Rashid shouldn't bowl anymore and concentrate on his batting, he's a better batsman than half the Bangladesh team.

English tail will be tasked in India, I can tell you. Once 5 down, Ash & Jad 'll bowl with 6-3 field on absolute dead straight - every ball you have to play & on stick. Since 8th wicket - how many wicket taking ball was there? They are just waiting for English tail to throw the towel.
 
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