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DLF Cup - W.I v india (game 2)

Munaf bowling at an average speed of 700 mph
 
141 for 2 after 20 overs

Rain stops play. WI should be well ahead on D/L
 
:12: Dammit. That was awesome stuff all the way through, it was shaping up to be literally Tendulkar v Lara - who can help their team to the bigger total?

Awesome batting from Tendulkar especially in the last 3 overs. As much as I would love him to be like this every day (except against England :P ) I still think he is probably past it - his ability to score in ODIs was never in doubt, he had even been doing it in his last one day series before his latest lay-off. It was the tests that were the big problem, and he hasn't proved that he's 'back' in the man's form of the game yet, so let's not get too excited...superb century nonetheless.
 
I think this match may well be over for India, if the rain keeps going cause by D/L method WI is well ahead, congrats HASH you won :D..
 
Whippy said:
:12: Dammit. That was awesome stuff all the way through, it was shaping up to be literally Tendulkar v Lara - who can help their team to the bigger total?

Awesome batting from Tendulkar especially in the last 3 overs. As much as I would love him to be like this every day (except against England :P ) I still think he is probably past it - his ability to score in ODIs was never in doubt, he had even been doing it in his last one day series before his latest lay-off. It was the tests that were the big problem, and he hasn't proved that he's 'back' in the man's form of the game yet, so let's not get too excited...superb century nonetheless.
yeah i think in tests he cannot seem to apply himself with the same resolve he employs in ODIs... but maybe a big inning or two could change that.

nevertheless, statistically, tendulkar does not quite deserve a spot in the test match team.
 
Master_Blaster said:
yeah i think in tests he cannot seem to apply himself with the same resolve he employs in ODIs... but maybe a big inning or two could change that.

nevertheless, statistically, tendulkar does not quite deserve a spot in the test match team.

I wish he would just play his natural attacking game in tests. Lets look at his last test series. He scored a rapid 28 not out in Nagpur against England when he was trying to be aggressive and get a run chase going, and he looked far more comfortable there than when he prodded and groped in his defensive knocks throughout the rest of the series. To be attacking is his natural game, it is why he is arguably the best one day batsman ever. 40 tons :O
 
PlanetPakistan said:
How fast is Munaf bowling today?

I saw 3 of his overs. Was consistently in the 80-83 mph range. In other words, a classic Indian bowler.
 
Just wondering a game has to be over 25 overs old in both innings to be considered a full match, otherwise it could get cancelled? can someone clarify this for me?
 
Romali_rotti said:
Just wondering a game has to be over 25 overs old in both innings to be considered a full match, otherwise it could get cancelled? can someone clarify this for me?
Its 20 these days
 
Hash said:
I saw 3 of his overs. Was consistently in the 80-83 mph range. In other words, a classic Indian bowler.

he said he was gonna break the 100mph barrier! he hasnt evan clocked 90 yet!
 
Romali_rotti said:
Just wondering a game has to be over 25 overs old in both innings to be considered a full match, otherwise it could get cancelled? can someone clarify this for me?

Unfortunately for you saab jee, it is 20 overs! :D

We should win this game now. Another Sachin 100 in a losing cause.
 
Hash said:
Unfortunately for you saab jee, it is 20 overs! :D

We should win this game now. Another Sachin 100 in a losing cause.

Like ive been saying all this time> it's a one man army the rest of the goons in SRT's side doesnt show up as usual.... If they bowled a bit better they could have restricted the WI to maybe under 115 but Nooo rest of the goons just cant play.. Either way congrats to SRT awesome knock will go down as a legend when he retires :D
 
Romali_rotti said:
Like ive been saying all this time> it's a one man army the rest of the goons in SRT's side doesnt show up as usual.... If they bowled a bit better they could have restricted the WI to maybe under 115 but Nooo rest of the goons just cant play.. Either way congrats to SRT awesome knock will go down as a legend when he retires :D


Dude u Go ahead an praise your 'GOD' as much as you can...but don critisize the rest of the team just to make him look good .
 
jusarrived said:
Dude u Go ahead an praise your 'GOD' as much as you can...but don critisize the rest of the team just to make him look good .

Nah Ill just sit there and keep quiety & watch bowling performances like these;

Harbhajan Singh (ob) 4.0 0 30 0 7.50

IK Pathan 2 0 22 0 11.00

RP Singh 4 0 39 1 9.75

and potentially costing my team a chance to WIN.. Mate why dont you get on the field and do what SRT did, you act like such a hero; what you rather SRT not score any runs at all and let the team lose?.. Is it his fault he scores when rest of the goons in his team doesnt? what you want him to do? play for rest of your 10 uncritisizable players yeah?.. Stop your trash, you cant handle me praising a player who has always stood up for his team before age and injury caught up with him when rest of the goons did nothing?? well then I GOT NEWS FOR YA > I AINT GONNA DO IT, LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT, YOU DONT LIKE TOO BAD.....
 
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If the gearbox of my car breaks down should I rip out the engine that is working perfectly or just fix the gearbox?

same logic applies to indian team!
 
8.45pm So, West Indies needed to be 113 at the 20-over mark, according to Messrs. Duckworth and Lewis. They are well ahead of that (141). That means, if there is no further play, they would be declared winners

:))) :))) :))) :135: :135: :135:
 
Tupac said:
game's not over yet....come on rain, stop!

Tupac....I warned you over a week ago that weather in Malaysia does not look good!!! So, why the frustration? :P

BTW, anybody know how much WI is ahead on RR (D/L method )?
 
W63L35 said:
Tupac....I warned you over a week ago that weather in Malaysia does not look good!!! So, why the frustration? :P

BTW, anybody know how much WI is ahead on RR (D/L method )?

according to cricb...

The Duckworth - Lewis method says that at this stage the West Indians need to be at 115 for 2 to beat India and at the moment, they are well ahead
 
Romali_rotti said:
Nah Ill just sit there and keep quiety & watch bowling performances like these;

Harbhajan Singh (ob) 4.0 0 30 0 7.50

IK Pathan 2 0 22 0 11.00

RP Singh 4 0 39 1 9.75

and potentially costing my team a chance to WIN.. Mate why dont you get on the field and do what SRT did, you act like such a hero; what you rather SRT not score any runs at all and let the team lose?.. Is it his fault he scores when rest of the goons in his team doesnt? what you want him to do? play for rest of your 10 uncritisizable players yeah?.. Stop your trash, you cant handle me praising a player who has always stood up for his team before age and injury caught up with him when rest of the goons did nothing?? well then I GOT NEWS FOR YA > I AINT GONNA DO IT, LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT, YOU DONT LIKE TOO BAD.....

:))) :))) :))) :))) :)))

.....sorry, RR... you may be upset but I really sounded funny!!
 
And allow me to reiterate the scenario once more: if there was no further play, West Indies would be declared winners as they are well ahead of the D/L par score of 113 (for the loss of two wickets, in 20 overs).
 
anyone who watched the game will know a lot of runs from RP Singh and Bhajji were edges and streaky shots!
 
MIG said:
according to cricb...

The Duckworth - Lewis method says that at this stage the West Indians need to be at 115 for 2 to beat India and at the moment, they are well ahead

Well, then India needs as many overs as they can to erase this big of a difference!! Tuff luck India!
 
Abdul Qadir 236 said:
anyone who watched the game will know a lot of runs from RP Singh and Bhajji were edges and streaky shots!

Maybe a few edges here and there but most of the runs were scored from good clean shots.
 
W63L35 said:
Well, then India needs as many overs as they can to erase this big of a difference!! Tuff luck India!

If it had rained the day before at the same stage, WI would have won against the Aussies as well !
 
Come on rain, stop!.

Such a shame that Sachins hundred might be just a waste.
 
It is still raining at Kuala Lumpur and we have information that there might be an inspection close to 14:30 GMT. So do not go far away, stay connected to find out more. As always, we'll be the first ones to update you with any news that crops up.

From cricb...
 
Playa said:
Come on rain, stop!.

Such a shame that Sachins hundred might be just a waste.

I don't think it was a waste....didn't it give so much enjoyment and satisfaction to all the Sachin fans? Didn't enjoy the 100 when he was going full speed? If you did then it was not a waste?
 
113 seems a low requirement after 20 overs?

Would've expected the required RR to be higher than the overall RR being chased?

Then again I suppose WI started their innings thinking 310 was the target so D/L has to take all factors in to account.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Nah Ill just sit there and keep quiety & watch bowling performances like these;

Harbhajan Singh (ob) 4.0 0 30 0 7.50

IK Pathan 2 0 22 0 11.00

RP Singh 4 0 39 1 9.75

and potentially costing my team a chance to WIN.. Mate why dont you get on the field and do what SRT did, you act like such a hero; what you rather SRT not score any runs at all and let the team lose?.. Is it his fault he scores when rest of the goons in his team doesnt? what you want him to do? play for rest of your 10 uncritisizable players yeah?.. Stop your trash, you cant handle me praising a player who has always stood up for his team before age and injury caught up with him when rest of the goons did nothing?? well then I GOT NEWS FOR YA > I AINT GONNA DO IT, LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT, YOU DONT LIKE TOO BAD.....


who said the rest of the team isnt critisizable ? but I ahve probs wen u do it just to make ur player look good..the bowlers din have a good start but batting teams going off to flyers in first 20 ovrs is common these days...140/2 n 20 ovsr is even's for both sides...the rest of the team dosen deserve to be called goons for this performance..only a tendulkar fan having harmones seeing his century is capable of saying such things.
 
Muhammad said:
113 seems a low requirement after 20 overs?

Would've expected the required RR to be higher than the overall RR being chased?

Then again I suppose WI started their innings thinking 310 was the target so D/L has to take all factors in to account.

Basically you answered your own question. How many times a team starting to chase 310 will have a R/R of close 6 R/O after 20 overs? So, I think...it is a fair target..it is just WI batted superbly - or India bowled badly or both!
 
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Muhammad said:
113 seems a low requirement after 20 overs?

Would've expected the required RR to be higher than the overall RR being chased?

Then again I suppose WI started their innings thinking 310 was the target so D/L has to take all factors in to account.


113/2 at the end of 20 ovrs chasing 310 is too low..!
 
W63L35 said:
Basically you answered your own question. How many times a team starting to chase 310 will have a R/R of close 6 R/O after 20 overs? So, I think...it is a fair target..it is just WI batted superbly - or India bowled badly or both!


at 113/2 in 20 ovrs

you wud need 197 runs with 8 wikts in hand..which is not a winning position !
 
W63L35 said:
I don't think it was a waste....didn't it give so much enjoyment and satisfaction to all the Sachin fans? Didn't enjoy the 100 when he was going full speed? If you did then it was not a waste?

I enjoyed the 100, I just wanted India to win the match, so Sachins efforts was a winning one.
 
this game over...no way will this start again...another loss to india vs WI....after these 2 games...i think the whole equation of the world cup has changed...Aus almost lost...and India (one of the 4 semis finalists supposedly) has a bowling lineup that will struggle to contain any batting lineup....

so yea WC is very very open indeed
 
jusarrived said:
who said the rest of the team isnt critisizable ? but I ahve probs wen u do it just to make ur player look good..the bowlers din have a good start but batting teams going off to flyers in first 20 ovrs is common these days...140/2 n 20 ovsr is even's for both sides...the rest of the team dosen deserve to be called goons for this performance..only a tendulkar fan having harmones seeing his century is capable of saying such things.

Where was ur Dravid> in the 99 tour of AUS? You jump on Dravid's bandwagon when there are absolutely no class bowlers left in the world barring AUS & surprise surprise he dominates. He avgs a whopping 15 when both Mcgrath & Warne are on the field together, and he sure as hell doesnt have a good avg facing Wasim.... Personally I couldnt give a damn what you think but I feel I might enlighten you a little bit.

Ohh BTW I rate INZI ahead of Dravid :19:
 
jusarrived said:
who said the rest of the team isnt critisizable ? but I ahve probs wen u do it just to make ur player look good..the bowlers din have a good start but batting teams going off to flyers in first 20 ovrs is common these days...140/2 n 20 ovsr is even's for both sides...the rest of the team dosen deserve to be called goons for this performance..only a tendulkar fan having harmones seeing his century is capable of saying such things.


You would rarely see that against ASIF or anyone else who is class :19:
 
The way Lara hit Harbhajan, I guess this match would have gone down to the wire. Windies had an equal chance of winning. India dont have as good bowlers as Australia to trigger a collapse. Bravo also plays well against Indian bowlers.
Tough luck cricket fans. I was expecting a Lara century.

on a lighter note: Chappel was seen with the water soaker, rushing on the ground. LOL
 
UsmanhailsAfridi said:
this game over...no way will this start again...another loss to india vs WI....after these 2 games...i think the whole equation of the world cup has changed...Aus almost lost...and India (one of the 4 semis finalists supposedly) has a bowling lineup that will struggle to contain any batting lineup....
so yea WC is very very open indeed

LOL I know and Mr.Ignorance 'justarrived' feelings get hurt when i call em the trash they are :))) :))) :))) .... Ohhh I ammm sowwwieeeee arrival boy :25:
 
India r in pretty contral if match resumes. bcz they need to get out either sarwan or lara quickly and then windies will collapse. they don't have any genuine batsman left after these 2.
 
This is where Ozzies got lucky!! Had it rained couple of days back match Windies would have won! Too bad Sachin 142 Windies 141! Thats the way it goes. With yuvraj's return hopefully India wins the next match against ozzies.
 
inzidabest said:
The way Lara hit Harbhajan, I guess this match would have gone down to the wire. Windies had an equal chance of winning. India dont have as good bowlers as Australia to trigger a collapse. Bravo also plays well against Indian bowlers.
Tough luck cricket fans. I was expecting a Lara century.

on a lighter note: Chappel was seen with the water soaker, rushing on the ground. LOL


Lara would have been logn gone but for the muffling from Dhoni. But Lara was taking risks since they were aware of the weather.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Where was ur Dravid> in the 99 tour of AUS? You jump on Dravid's bandwagon when there are absolutely no class bowlers left in the world barring AUS & surprise surprise he dominates. He avgs a whopping 15 when both Mcgrath & Warne are on the field together, and he sure as hell doesnt have a good avg facing Wasim.... Personally I couldnt give a damn what you think but I feel I might enlighten you a little bit.

Ohh BTW I rate INZI ahead of Dravid :19:


I have no idea why you bring Dravid into this..this isnt Dravid vs tendu or their records vs Mcgrath n Warne. I Have told before that sachin is the most talented bat of this era ...Dravid,inzi ,ponting n lara don even come close...but its also a fact that he dosen fit into this team..Iam not saying that he is selfish,but his runs rarely helps team cos of his sissy attitude....!

why wud it bother me,if you rate inzi over Dravid ....both match winners for their respective teams...I rate both players highly for their commitment!
 
jackal786 said:
Lara would have been logn gone but for the muffling from Dhoni. But Lara was taking risks since they were aware of the weather.

errr..sachin would have gone in single digits had the catch been taken by the keeper. Part and parcel of the game. Lara was also looking good!
 
India 309/5 (50 ov)
West Indies 141/2 (20.0 ov)
West Indies won by 29 runs (D/L method)

West Indies RR 7.05
Required RR 5.63
India RR 6.18

Unfortunate for India
 
Unfortunate....thank god for them. This gam ewould be done by the 40th over if this continued :P lol jokes.
 
jusarrived said:
I have no idea why you bring Dravid into this..this isnt Dravid vs tendu or their records vs Mcgrath n Warne. I Have told before that sachin is the most talented bat of this era ...Dravid,inzi ,ponting n lara don even come close...but its also a fact that he dosen fit into this team..Iam not saying that he is selfish,but his runs rarely helps team cos of his sissy attitude....!

why wud it bother me,if you rate inzi over Dravid ....both match winners for their respective teams...I rate both players highly for their commitment!

Sissy attitude? please define your meaning of what SRT's 'sissy attitude' is? Boy arguing with you is getting funnier by the minute :))) .. So you are saying SRT's 140 odd today was not good enuff cause of his sissy attitude ?. Do you know how dumb you sound?.. After watching cricket for so many years I always thought SRT's role in the team was to score runs (MAIN PRIORITY) which he has done so lavishly, so he has done what has been require of him, now where does this sissy attitude fit in?...
 
Romali_rotti said:
You would rarely see that against ASIF or anyone else who is class :19:


We are seeing 400+ targets being chased..for you 140/2 i 20 ovrs is unheard of.

just check WI score in their last ODI against OZ at the end of 20 ovrs!
 
jusarrived said:
I have no idea why you bring Dravid into this..this isnt Dravid vs tendu or their records vs Mcgrath n Warne. I Have told before that sachin is the most talented bat of this era ...Dravid,inzi ,ponting n lara don even come close...but its also a fact that he dosen fit into this team..Iam not saying that he is selfish,but his runs rarely helps team cos of his sissy attitude....!

why wud it bother me,if you rate inzi over Dravid ....both match winners for their respective teams...I rate both players highly for their commitment!


Oh thats right maybe you were saying the rain that came and the bowlers bowling badly was because of SRT's; 'sissy attitude' LOL :)))
 
Chill out Roti and Jusarrived, we all know how class Sachin and Dravid are, and both of them are one of the best batsmen of our modern era. If we are going to beat the Aussies in the next match, then we will need Sachin and Dravid to contribute much!, both are class acts and have won India many matches!.
 
jusarrived said:
We are seeing 400+ targets being chased..for you 140/2 i 20 ovrs is unheard of.

just check WI score in their last ODI against OZ at the end of 20 ovrs!

Hmm yeah i saw the last one day game. Saw a certain Mcgrath doing his job, while the other experienced bowling line up who has probably played less than 5-6 games between them altogether bowling really good :))) :))) ...
 
Dont be harsh on Dravid, without him, we might not have won in the West Indies this year, nore won the test in Australia in 2003.
 
This means India and Pakistan are at 111 points in the ODI ICC rankings and Pak may be ahead a fraction and retain its 3rd position for the time being. Even though they do not deserve it as they got thrashed by a 3rd class county string England team.
 
Playa said:
Dont be harsh on Dravid, without him, we might not have won in the West Indies this year, nore won the test in Australia in 2003.

Not Harsh on Dravid but facts are facts Playa, last tour down under for us was against a very weak Aus attack without 2 of their truimph cards and credit to Dravid for the win against the WI but those bowlers are junk no offence man.. This jusarrived guy just salvates over Dravid and starts crying when I praise SRT, I mean Dravid's record vs the 'class' bowlers is JUNK....
 
169 runs are lot of runs to get outside power play considering the brittle middle and lower order of windies. But letting agarkar, pathan, RP singh bowl ahead of Munaf who is the quickest of the lot was not a good move by Dravid.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Not Harsh on Dravid but facts are facts Playa, last tour down under for us was against a very weak Aus attack without 2 of their truimph cards and credit to Dravid for the win against the WI but those bowlers are junk no offence man.. This jusarrived guy just salvates over Dravid and he gets very sad when I praise SRT, I mean Dravid's record vs the 'class' bowlers is JUNK....


OK now stop both of you - getting far too personal for my liking.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Sissy attitude? please define your meaning of what SRT's 'sissy attitude' is? Boy arguing with you is getting funnier by the minute :))) .. So you are saying SRT's 140 odd today was not good enuff cause of his sissy attitude ?. Do you know how dumb you sound?.. After watching cricket for so many years I always thought SRT's role in the team was to score runs (MAIN PRIORITY) which he has done so lavishly, so he has done what has been require of him, now where does this sissy attitude fit in?...

If you check my earliar posts I did admit ,today he played a rare good innings(surprised! No slowing dwn approaching his century)..we wud have won the game , considering we were playing W.I.

I say sissy attitude cos..

1) He never scores wen chasing huge scores ( sharj 97 n Wc 2003 vs Pak only two exceptions)
2) His centuries are mostly n first innings..india endup being atleast 20-30 runs short cos of him slowing dwn nr his 100 .
3) every time he gets out he acts as if it was a wrong decision or there was somthing in the pitch or it was an unplayable ball etc etc

I cud jolt down a few more if required...hey n gues wat ' I used to be a huge fan of tendu'..not a blind one though! :19:
 
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Romali_rotti said:
Not Harsh on Dravid but facts are facts Playa, last tour down under for us was against a very weak Aus attack without 2 of their truimph cards and credit to Dravid for the win against the WI but those bowlers are junk no offence man.. This jusarrived guy just salvates over Dravid and starts crying when I praise SRT, I mean Dravid's record vs the 'class' bowlers is JUNK....

That is true, I'v watced a lot of Indias games since the 90s and up untill now, I did'nt see Dravid do too much when the Saffies and Aussies attack was at its strongest.

I wonder if Dravid is any good on green wickets.

I wonder whats Dravids overseas record in England, Sa and Aus in test and odis?.
 
His record might not be good agaisnt the Aussies and Saffies strongest attacks, but his innings in the WI this year, his innings in Aus in 2003, that 180 in Calcutta 2001 where it all seemed to be lost, bare in mind they had to bat out one and a bit days and score runs at a rate to even have a chance of winning the match was class.

Dravid has fineshed off games, like in world cup 2003, and that solid 47 in the world cup final, that 89 run partnership off 13 overs with Sehwag in the world cup final, after being 58-3 in 10.3 overs, needing well over 7.5 to win the game from then on and gave India some hope was brilliant.

Dravid is very consistant, one of the finest batsmen India have ever produced.
 
Dravid has a fantastic away record and the main reason you won the series in the West Indies (your first significant win outside Asia for a billion years) is because of his back to back half centuries on a minefield in the final test. Show some respect.
 
From CricB:

Seems to be in reverse chrono order !

He says that they had expected the rain and that is the reason why they went all out in the beginning. He too showers praise on Sachin's comeback innings.

Chris Gayle has been adjudged the Hi flier of the Match

He says that it gives him immense pleasure to be back and that in this fashion. He is also very happy about the way his body has responded to the treatment.

Sachin Tendulkar has been adjudged the Man of the Match for his masterly knock

Brian Lara says that it is good to come back in that fashion. He feels that they could have bowled better but Sachin's knock was magical and he certainly had no answer for that. But he is very happy with the way the guys responded with the bat.

Rahul Dravid says that he is very disappointed that things turned up in such a way after batting so well but they indeed could have bowled better. he is all praise for the Sachin knock and wants him to continue scoring runs like this.

Well friends the news is terrible for Indian fans. The match has been called off and West Indies have won by 29 runs by Duckworth - Lewis method here.
 
jusarrived said:
1) He never scores wen chasing huge scores ( sharj 97 n Wc 2003 vs Pak only two exceptions)
2) His centuries are mostly n first innings..india endup being atleast 20-30 runs short cos of him slowing dwn nr his 100 .
I think following stats (SRT's ODI rec) tell a different story.


Code:
won batting 1st       82   82   5  4278 186*  55.55  15  20   1
won batting 2nd      101   98  23  4397 134   58.62  13  23   5
lost batting 1st      83   83   1  2536 146   30.92   8  10   3
lost batting 2nd      77   77   0  2506 143   32.54   2  18   7

1) You say he never score when chasing??? Well, about 101 times, 4400 runs, 13 100s and ave of 58........he has successfully chased.

2) His 100s are mostly in 1st innging??
In wins......15 in 1st innings while 13 in 2nd innings....about the same. Total of 15 100s in 2nd innings.

Today's match not included.
 
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W63L35 said:
I think following stats (SRT's ODI rec) tell a different story.


Code:
won batting 1st       82   82   5  4278 186*  55.55  15  20   1
won batting 2nd      101   98  23  4397 134   58.62  13  23   5
lost batting 1st      83   83   1  2536 146   30.92   8  10   3
lost batting 2nd      77   77   0  2506 143   32.54   2  18   7

1) You say he never score when chasing??? Well, about 101 times, 4400 runs, 13 100s and ave of 58........he has successfully chased.

2) His 100s are mostly in 1st innging??
In wins......15 in 1st innings while 13 in 2nd innings....about the same. Total of 17 100s in 2nd innings.

Today's match not included.


sry,I meant only high scoring matches.

seriously this is getting really boring like most tendus innings...am out of here :)
 
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