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Does Jasprit Bumrah have a legal action?

Answer for 3 is yes. Reported thrice.

Answe for 2 is that Pakistani Umpires or refrees are not associated with the IPL. Even they haven't called Bumrah.

Answer 1: What pressure
Do Pakistani umpires officiate Indian games often?
 
It's a joke tbh, he's been chucking for almost a decade now and nothing has been done about it so what's really the point of making noise now almost 10 years into his International Career?
 
Bumrah'a action should be tested for once to kill this whole debate. There is no point in making useless claims whether his action is legal or illegal. Only solution is to have it tested and kill the whole debate.
 
I personally am neither angry nor defensive when Pakistani fans question Bumrah. That’s your right.

But why should his action be tested? Because some random guys on a cricket forum demand it?

Of course there will be comments about his action - that backwards elbow extension is will raise eyebrows.

But it is within the limits prescribed in the game. Finis.

Forget that cricket greats, you know the guys who actually play the game, have opined that he’s legit.

Umpire after umpire has not questioned his action on the field of play. Boards haven’t gone to the ICC to report him.

So again, why should he be tested? Because some of you guys want it?

Claiming that an all powerful BCCI is the reason he’s getting away with it is your opinion. And as we know, everyone has one.

Ask the PCB to lodge a complaint. And if you say the PCB doesn’t have the guts, well that’s on your PCB.

Until then we can keep arguing, while Bumrah will probably go down as an ATG.
 
Bumrah'a action should be tested for once to kill this whole debate. There is no point in making useless claims whether his action is legal or illegal. Only solution is to have it tested and kill the whole debate.

So that you guys can debate on how BCCI influenced the test results.

Will it be a new thread or this thread will continue?
 
So that you guys can debate on how BCCI influenced the test results.

Will it be a new thread or this thread will continue?
So this debate can be over. People are complaining about his action. why not get it checked instead of indian trying to justify and defend him without proper results???

Don't you want evidence to defend???
 
So this debate can be over. People are complaining about his action. why not get it checked instead of indian trying to justify and defend him without proper results???

Don't you want evidence to defend???

Bumrah doesn't need defending. Various experts have already analysed and explained his action. Only pakistani fans seem to think there is any problem.

Pakistanis are complaining because Bumrah if he continues on this path will out do all pakistani fast bowlers.

Bowlers are not tested on the basis of the demands of disgruntled and jealous fans.
 
Klassen can take running jump of the Grand Canyon, we’re fine with the mirror, just you lot dont a look.. you wont like the reflection
No thank you. Go back to defending to serial chuckers like Ajmal, Hafeez and Hasnain while questioning others simply out of envy
 
Bumrah doesn't need defending. Various experts have already analysed and explained his action. Only pakistani fans seem to think there is any problem.

Pakistanis are complaining because Bumrah if he continues on this path will out do all pakistani fast bowlers.

Bowlers are not tested on the basis of the demands of disgruntled and jealous fans.
They don't. They are just envious that India has finally produced a world class fast bowler. They are the perfect examples of people who love lying to themselves.
 
Bumrah doesn't need defending. Various experts have already analysed and explained his action. Only pakistani fans seem to think there is any problem.

Pakistanis are complaining because Bumrah if he continues on this path will out do all pakistani fast bowlers.

Bowlers are not tested on the basis of the demands of disgruntled and jealous fans.
Trust me, if there were a suspect batting stance in cricket, all of them would have been calling Sachin's batting stance as illegal with Miandad having the perfect batting stance in history.
 
Bumrah doesn't need defending. Various experts have already analysed and explained his action. Only pakistani fans seem to think there is any problem.

Pakistanis are complaining because Bumrah if he continues on this path will out do all pakistani fast bowlers.

Bowlers are not tested on the basis of the demands of disgruntled and jealous fans.

He is already better than every single Pakistani bowler in history. I know we sometimes want to be humble and don'y want to offend them but it is just a fact. This is the main reason of this jealousy and why they want Bumrah banned.
 
🤣 every time an non-Indian has an opinion on an Indian player, Indian fans start crying..

Boo hoo you guys are jealous..

Boo hoo how dare you offend are cricket gods..
Unfortunately everyone can see who is crying, not only in this thread but the other thread comparing Bumrah with all Pakistani bowlers. When Buffet exposed everything with stats, people went back to the usual route of 'humare zamane me' and how test cricket was better back in the days etc etc. When that also fell flat on the face classic Bumrah chucks debate creeped up again.

No one called Bumrah cricket god. He is just the best fast bowler at present and better than every single fast bowler Pakistan has produced in their entire history of test cricket.
 
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Bumrah will probably go down as the greatest fast bowler to come out of subcontinent, easily surpassing the likes of Wasim and Waqar. So it's only but natural that Pakistani fans are rattled by his talent.
Also it doesn't help that current PCT is in shambles. It's human nature folks. Perfectly understandable.
Used to happen when Tendulkar was at his prime.
 
🤣 every time an non-Indian has an opinion on an Indian player, Indian fans start crying..

Boo hoo you guys are jealous..

Boo hoo how dare you offend are cricket gods..
Boo hoo, testing is done based on suspicion, not on a bunch of crying Pakistani fans. Bumrah's action is not just clean, but one of the cleanest going around, from former cricketer to experts to anyone with common sense can see that.

And again, fans of the most dishonest and corrupt Cricketing nation whining and crying to get Bumrah's action tested means absolutely nothing.
 
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Didn't bowl as well today.

I think the allegations got to him.

He will miss the next test too ( I think)
 
Unfortunately everyone can see who is crying, not only in this thread but the other thread comparing Bumrah with all Pakistani bowlers. When Buffet exposed everything with stats, people went back to the usual route of 'humare zamane me' and how test cricket was better back in the days etc etc. When that also fell flat on the face classic Bumrah chucks debate creeped up again.

No one called Bumrah cricket god. He is just the best fast bowler at present and better than every single fast bowler Pakistan has produced in their entire history of test cricket.
Oh "buffet" and his selective stats with zero context, the gospel of cricket according to you clueless Indian fans

If bumrah action is clean or not clean, there is a simple solution - get it tested, just like any other cricketer.

Yet if anyone has an opinion on your cricketd you start getting offended.
 
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Boo hoo, testing is done based on suspicion, not on a bunch of crying Pakistani fans. Bumrah's action is not just clean, but one of the cleanest going around, from former cricketer to experts to anyone with common sense can see that.

And again, fans of the most dishonest and corrupt Cricketing nation whining and crying to get Bumrah's action tested means absolutely nothing.
🤣🤣

Dishonest and corrupt

Manjrekar, Azzurddin and jadeja weren't corrupt?

Funny how almost all match fixing involves Indian bookmakers..

Don't act as though the country is squeaky clean 🤡
 
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Oh "buffet" and his selective stats with zero context, the gospel of cricket according to you clueless Indian fans

If bumrah action is clean or not clean, there is a simple solution - get it tested, just like any other cricketer.

Yet if anyone has an opinion on your cricketd you start getting offended.

Also, those are not Buffet's stats LOL but actual stats of cricketers which clearly shows Bumrah is superior than any bowler in history of Pak cricket.
 
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Oh "buffet" and his selective stats with zero context, the gospel of cricket according to you clueless Indian fans

If bumrah action is clean or not clean, there is a simple solution - get it tested, just like any other cricketer.

Yet if anyone has an opinion on your cricketd you start getting offended.

Don't throw toys out of the pram.

World cricket won't run as per pakistanis.

And ICC isn't PP. .No one is going to test anyone because of pakistanis.
 
Don't throw toys out of the pram.

World cricket won't run as per pakistanis.

And ICC isn't PP. .No one is going to test anyone because of pakistanis.
Only person throwing is bumrah, maybe he can challenge Arshad nadeem for javelin at next Olympics

Yet another Indian who thinks the whole world revolves around them.

No wonder kohli is behaving like a Ape, when most of his followers behave in same way
 
Oh "buffet" and his selective stats with zero context, the gospel of cricket according to you clueless Indian fans

If bumrah action is clean or not clean, there is a simple solution - get it tested, just like any other cricketer.

Yet if anyone has an opinion on your cricketd you start getting offended.


Basically the policy is, guilty until proven innocent.
 
So this debate can be over. People are complaining about his action. why not get it checked instead of indian trying to justify and defend him without proper results???

Don't you want evidence to defend???
A bunch of posters have complained about Shaheens action, can he get it tested and prove himself innocent.

Before that I will consider all his wickets as run out.

Will a bunch of posters tell the ICC and umpires (who find nothing wrong with his action) to get him tested? Has any cricketer called him for chucking?
 
Akhtar was tested and cleared


Like I said not a single Indian on here knows how to actually have a discussion without playing the "everyone hates India card"
You have no authority to force Bumrah to get his action tested.

Bumrah will never be tested, your curiosity will always remain unfulfilled.
 
Let's start again about Bumrah now
Whats there to discuss, the Umpires have more knowledge than us for sure, if they don’t find a problem and neither any cricketer does, then why will he get tested.

Its just Pakistans insecurity that India has found an ATG pacer.
 
Also, those are not Buffet's stats LOL but actual stats of cricketers which clearly shows Bumrah is superior than any bowler in history of Pak cricket.
Honestly, I can’t say if Bumrah’s action qualifies as chucking—that’s for the umpires to decide.

What’s striking, though, is this sudden chest-thumping by Indian fans claiming Bumrah is the greatest fast bowler in history or the best thing since sliced bread. He hasn’t even reached 200 Test wickets or 150 ODI wickets yet.

While his action is unique and undeniably effective, it’s not exactly pleasing to watch. Skillful, yes, but not someone I’d go out of my way to watch unless I were Indian. Zaheer Khan, for instance, had a more aesthetically appealing bowling style. Bumrah is like the Steve Smith of bowling—awkward but effective.

In terms of raw talent, I see him as an intelligent version of Haris Rauf who benefits from a superior system that knows how to nurture and rehabilitate players. On pure ability, I’d rate Naseem Shah and Shaheen Afridi higher, let alone legends like Wasim Akram or Waqar Younis.

The truth is, Pakistan produces Bumrah-level talents almost every five years but often fails to maximize or sustain their potential due to systemic shortcomings.

I know I’ll get flak from Indian commenters on here, but that really is my POV
 
Honestly, I can’t say if Bumrah’s action qualifies as chucking—that’s for the umpires to decide.

What’s striking, though, is this sudden chest-thumping by Indian fans claiming Bumrah is the greatest fast bowler in history or the best thing since sliced bread. He hasn’t even reached 200 Test wickets or 150 ODI wickets yet.

While his action is unique and undeniably effective, it’s not exactly pleasing to watch. Skillful, yes, but not someone I’d go out of my way to watch unless I were Indian. Zaheer Khan, for instance, had a more aesthetically appealing bowling style. Bumrah is like the Steve Smith of bowling—awkward but effective.

In terms of raw talent, I see him as an intelligent version of Haris Rauf who benefits from a superior system that knows how to nurture and rehabilitate players. On pure ability, I’d rate Naseem Shah and Shaheen Afridi higher, let alone legends like Wasim Akram or Waqar Younis.

The truth is, Pakistan produces Bumrah-level talents almost every five years but often fails to maximize or sustain their potential due to systemic shortcomings.


I know I’ll get flak from Indian commenters on here, but that really is my POV
Now how you deal with such delusions?

@Amjid Javed you agree with this?

:kp
 
Now how you deal with such delusions?

@Amjid Javed you agree with this?

:kp
I don’t care what you or anyone else thinks. Weren’t you the one accusing Pakistanis of being jealous of Bumrah? Yet, in other threads, you claimed Shaheen was ball tampering for reverse swing just because Klassen accused him.

Haris Rauf has been just as effective in Australia in the recently concluded ODI series as Bumrah. In fact, he could be even more impactful in Test cricket with the red ball on more supportive pitches.

Bumrah does seem like an intelligent player who has maximized his abilities. His injury rehab, series prioritization, workload management, and planning are all spot on. On the other hand, Rauf appears to lack that level of structure and focus, which is holding him back.
 
I don’t care what you or anyone else thinks. Weren’t you the one accusing Pakistanis of being jealous of Bumrah? Yet, in other threads, you claimed Shaheen was ball tampering for reverse swing just because Klassen accused him.

Haris Rauf has been just as effective in Australia in the recently concluded ODI series as Bumrah. In fact, he could be even more impactful in Test cricket with the red ball on more supportive pitches.

Bumrah does seem like an intelligent player who has maximized his abilities. His injury rehab, series prioritization, workload management, and planning are all spot on. On the other hand, Rauf appears to lack that level of structure and focus, which is holding him back.
@Buffet - can you pls do a stats comparison of Bumrah, Rauf, Naseem and Shaheen in test cricket?

:dw
 
I don’t care what you or anyone else thinks. Weren’t you the one accusing Pakistanis of being jealous of Bumrah? Yet, in other threads, you claimed Shaheen was ball tampering for reverse swing just because Klassen accused him.

Haris Rauf has been just as effective in Australia in the recently concluded ODI series as Bumrah. In fact, he could be even more impactful in Test cricket with the red ball on more supportive pitches.

Bumrah does seem like an intelligent player who has maximized his abilities. His injury rehab, series prioritization, workload management, and planning are all spot on. On the other hand, Rauf appears to lack that level of structure and focus, which is holding him back.

Bumrah avgs 19.5 in tests with 197 test wickets. Haris Rauf is a clown in tests.
 
Honestly, I can’t say if Bumrah’s action qualifies as chucking—that’s for the umpires to decide.

What’s striking, though, is this sudden chest-thumping by Indian fans claiming Bumrah is the greatest fast bowler in history or the best thing since sliced bread. He hasn’t even reached 200 Test wickets or 150 ODI wickets yet.

While his action is unique and undeniably effective, it’s not exactly pleasing to watch. Skillful, yes, but not someone I’d go out of my way to watch unless I were Indian. Zaheer Khan, for instance, had a more aesthetically appealing bowling style. Bumrah is like the Steve Smith of bowling—awkward but effective.

In terms of raw talent, I see him as an intelligent version of Haris Rauf who benefits from a superior system that knows how to nurture and rehabilitate players. On pure ability, I’d rate Naseem Shah and Shaheen Afridi higher, let alone legends like Wasim Akram or Waqar Younis.

The truth is, Pakistan produces Bumrah-level talents almost every five years but often fails to maximize or sustain their potential due to systemic shortcomings.

I know I’ll get flak from Indian commenters on here, but that really is my POV

How do you measure ability?

Because as per PP Imran Nazir had more ability than Sehwag.
 
Only person throwing is bumrah, maybe he can challenge Arshad nadeem for javelin at next Olympics

Yet another Indian who thinks the whole world revolves around them.

No wonder kohli is behaving like a Ape, when most of his followers behave in same way

All toys thrown?
 
@Buffet - can you pls do a stats comparison of Bumrah, Rauf, Naseem and Shaheen in test cricket?

:dw
Why limit it to just Test cricket?

Pakistani pacers often play on pitches that resemble six-lane highways—completely lifeless for fast bowlers. It’s no wonder they sometimes look ineffective. How many matches do they even play in a year—five or six? How often do they get to bowl in conditions like SENA countries that actually support pace and movement?

Add to that the constant churn in coaching staff, the questionable effectiveness of the medical panel in managing their workloads and injuries, and the lack of consistent support from the batting lineup. It’s a system that sets them up to struggle, no matter how talented they are.
 
oh man the over hyping of bumrah. Than again, its the only bowler they have got.
 
Hyperextension sometimes help a pace bowler out.But in what extend we don't know.
 
How do you measure ability?

Because as per PP Imran Nazir had more ability than Sehwag.


For one, they’re not uncle-looking fast bowlers with joke of a run up and an action that resembles a malfunctioning lawnmower trying to start. That feels more like a gimmick—benefiting from an awkward action or arm flex that’s apparently legal. They’re proper athletes with traditional actions, using their athleticism, flair, and skill to take wickets, rather than relying on a god-given gimmick and a billion dollar industry managing and optimizing performance to the minute. I enjoy watching Siraj more. Proper bowler with smooth run up and action.
 
It's OK if the hyperextension falls within the permitted 15 degrees tolerance.

It can be cleared up if he is tested in the new way using the match analysis that is used now and found ajmal out only testing can clear it but there is a hunch he is bending 35 degrees in match situation and that is way over the 15 degrees permitted, you can make your own mind about how much advantage that gives.

If he was called junaid basharat and not jasprit bumrah I could bet on my house he would have been suspended, tested and banned .
 
It's OK if the hyperextension falls within the permitted 15 degrees tolerance.

It can be cleared up if he is tested in the new way using the match analysis that is used now and found ajmal out only testing can clear it but there is a hunch he is bending 35 degrees in match situation and that is way over the 15 degrees permitted, you can make your own mind about how much advantage that gives.

If he was called junaid basharat and not jasprit bumrah I could bet on my house he would have been suspended, tested and banned .

Hyper extension isn't part of any 15 degrees tolerance limit. Please read what is hyperextension and what is the tolerance limit for.

Then you can play the victim card.
 
For one, they’re not uncle-looking fast bowlers with joke of a run up and an action that resembles a malfunctioning lawnmower trying to start. That feels more like a gimmick—benefiting from an awkward action or arm flex that’s apparently legal. They’re proper athletes with traditional actions, using their athleticism, flair, and skill to take wickets, rather than relying on a god-given gimmick and a billion dollar industry managing and optimizing performance to the minute. I enjoy watching Siraj more. Proper bowler with smooth run up and action.


That's all your personal opinion.

We are talking about ability and how to measure it. Not your personal opinion.
 
He doesn't even know what is hyper extension and what is flexion.

Pakistani fans are the worst at understanding basic cricketing rules and nuances..they function on emotions and make dumb statements after getting riled up.

Heck even their players aren't aware of some playing rules. Remember Nawaz celebrating Kohli getting bowled off the free hit at the MCG and then them not knowing that you can run byes off a free hit even if you're bowled? That's just one example.

These lot used to and still defend Ajmal.
 
Pakistani fans are the worst at understanding basic cricketing rules and nuances..they function on emotions and make dumb statements after getting riled up.

Heck even their players aren't aware of some playing rules. Remember Nawaz celebrating Kohli getting bowled off the free hit at the MCG and then them not knowing that you can run byes off a free hit even if you're bowled? That's just one example.

These lot used to and still defend Ajmal.


No one defended ajmal he was called

They tested him on the old system where he just bowled within the tolerances and passed and hoodwinked everyone he never had any hyperextension .

The icc then changed the system they used actual game footage where he was called and made him bowl those exact deliveries in the game in the lab and guess what he was chucking well over 15 degrees his normal delivery was even a bigger chuck than his doosra 😄 that's when ajmal started the drama became maulvi tried to play victim because the testing was changed to match situation.

The bumrah controversy can be ended simply by testing on those same parameters.

But the problem is because of Indian mafia no one even has the balls to call an Indian bowler in first place. Whilst you have seen hasnain get called and sakib banned from bangladesh which is rightly so.

Like I said one rule for everyone else and one rule for indians


There is no doubt in match situation bumrah is exceeding that 15 degree tolerance .
 
Salty, insecure Indians should look at the bright side...

Once Bumrah retires there will be a film made, and I would suggest it's called "Bend it Like Bumrah"...

If the tests show it's hyperextension then the film will be about how it swung the ball around. It's the tests are negative well.........
 
Salty, insecure Indians should look at the bright side...

Once Bumrah retires there will be a film made, and I would suggest it's called "Bend it Like Bumrah"...

If the tests show it's hyperextension then the film will be about how it swung the ball around. It's the tests are negative well.........

Don't be jealous, Immy .. appreciate the fine specimen that is Bumrah. Pakistani youngsters these days look up to Indian bowlers and try to emulate their swagger and finesse.
 
Lmao...35 degrees. :yk


The meltdown is unreal. I don't know how you guys will cope if Bumrah takes the CT final out of Lahore and wins it for us.

Could be possible . But then again surely the 2017 champions trophy final performance will never be replicated. A spanking of the highest order, and you indians on that day Spat dummy out and ran off before the presentations concluded
 
Could be possible . But then again surely the 2017 champions trophy final performance will never be replicated. A spanking of the highest order, and you indians on that day Spat dummy out and ran off before the presentations concluded
I think quiet a few ran off once Kohli was out 😂
 
Not sure why this thread is 7 page long and still going.

As far as Bumrah is concerned his action is totally legit. The hyperextension is a natural thing, something Shoaib Akhtar also had and has nothing to do with intentional flexing.

The only thing surprising is how well India has managed Bumrah. The action is not a repeatable one and very prone to injuries but kudos to medical team to ensure Bumrah remains fit for as long as he can.
 
Hyper extension isn't part of any 15 degrees tolerance limit. Please read what is hyperextension and what is the tolerance limit for.

Then you can play the victim card.

Yes it is any bend whether by hyperextension or purposeful conventionally in normal person you have to be within the 15 degree tolerance

Muratlitharan had hyperextension and it's universally agreed by allowing him they allowed chucking.
 
The bumrah controversy can be ended simply by testing on those same parameters.

But the problem is because of Indian mafia no one even has the balls to call an Indian bowler in first place. Whilst you have seen hasnain get called and sakib banned from bangladesh which is rightly so.

Like I said one rule for everyone else and one rule for indians


There is no doubt in match situation bumrah is exceeding that 15 degree tolerance .



You have all the excuses covered.

"Bumrah chucks". :ssmith

"Bumrah is not getting tested because of the BCCI mAFiA". :ssmith

This Pakistani whining will continue until Bumrah hangs his boots after having an ATG career and there's nothing you lot can do except...well.. whining on internet forums. All the while the rest of the cricketing world (non Indophobic ones) acknowledges his abilities.

It's not a coincidence that these "bUmrAh cHucks" coping mechanisms only started after he owned you guys in 2023 Ahmedabad and 2024 New York. Says everything one needs to know about the genuity of these allegations. Seethe...
 
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Could be possible . But then again surely the 2017 champions trophy final performance will never be replicated. A spanking of the highest order, and you indians on that day Spat dummy out and ran off before the presentations concluded

Looks like I hit a nerve.

Since then Bumrah have won multiple Tests and series' in SENA and single handedly won us a T20 World cup while the likes of you are still stuck in 2017 with nothing else to feel good about. Sad!
 
Looks like I hit a nerve.

Since then Bumrah have won multiple Tests and series' in SENA and single handedly won us a T20 World cup while the likes of you are still stuck in 2017 with nothing else to feel good about. Sad!

Not at all. You mentioned champions Trophy. I just merely pointed out the facts.
 
Fox sports not jealous Pakistanis are onto Bumra big time !!
Yeah, I happened to catch that bit of the live action when they showed that. Very very dodgy, but of course nothing will be said cos its India.
 
No thank you. Go back to defending to serial chuckers like Ajmal, Hafeez and Hasnain while questioning others simply out of envy
Cant speak for others, only myself.. i havent ever defended ‘chuckers’ . If questioning Indian cricketers hurts you then know others feel the same way when you abuse them.
btw bumrah action is unique but as a bowler he is formidable no doubt.
 
Cant speak for others, only myself.. i havent ever defended ‘chuckers’ . If questioning Indian cricketers hurts you then know others feel the same way when you abuse them.
btw bumrah action is unique but as a bowler he is formidable no doubt.
No issues with people questioning Bumrah's action . But it's only the word of posters here. Why should that hold any water and accusations about BCCI's complicity in the matter .

Test Shaheen and a handful of other Pakistani bowlers first and then you can test Bumrah
 
I think Bumrah should be given some darts or a javelin and we can then put to rest the theory if he throws or not.
 
I was not convinced with Shaheen Afiridi's bowling action in the recently concluded ODI series against South Africa. In that thread, I was reminded of Bumrah's action by fellow posters here. So, I watched Bumrah's bowling in this Test and I believe his action is clean.
Having said that, I do support the claim that both of the guys should be tested. In these tests, I expect Bumrah to come out clean, but I am not sure if Afiridi would.
 
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Yes it is any bend whether by hyperextension or purposeful conventionally in normal person you have to be within the 15 degree tolerance

Muratlitharan had hyperextension and it's universally agreed by allowing him they allowed chucking.

You didn't read the rules. Did you? Here read the rules.

Hyper extension isn't in that 15 degrees rule.
 
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