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England [322/7] beat India [236] by 86 runs in the 2nd ODI to level the 3-match series 1-1

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I am more interested in seeing how England will play against Kuldeep rather than who is gonna win. Lord’s will provide more assistance to Kuldeep than Trent Bridge and England might fare worse than last time.
 
Congrats to India on winning the series. There is grass on the wicket and Wiley could have moved the bowl. I expect India to chase this within 40 overs. Englands only chance was to put india in and restrict them within 300. Have never seen Kohli so happy as he clearly said that I wish I did not come for the toss
 
England won the toss and will bat first.
Wanted India to bat first, now KulCha will again bowl them out under 300 and our top order will chase it.
Our middle order is not getting match practice.
 
One of the worst decisions. Early morning start is the only chance for England bowlers to strike. Umesh and Sidharth Kaul will definitely trouble as Englands focus is on Kuldeep
 
There must be a rule in India to stop people like Kaul from playing cricket.
He probably has the longest run up, still is a borderline tudler.
 
Seriously can't watch indian phaast bowlers bowl these days. Bring in the spinners already. Umesh and Kaul are rubbish bowlers.
 
Ironically he is better than our other two phast bowlers- Thakur and Unadkat.

Ek se pichha chhuta nahi dusra aa jata hai

Mohit
Sran
Unadkat
Thakur
Siraj

And now Kaul

😢😢😢😢😢😢

As I type, Pandya keeps bowling these slower deliveries.. Someone tell him this is odi, where u need to take wickets, especially with the new ball, and not to show ur different slower ball skills.
 
Mohit
Sran
Unadkat
Thakur
Siraj
Bhuvneshwar

And now Kaul

😢😢😢😢😢😢

As I type, Pandya keeps bowling these slower deliveries.. Someone tell him this is odi, where u need to take wickets, especially with the new ball, and not to show ur different slower ball skills.

Fixed that :)
 
Hardik Pandya is the real Trundler. Kaul is way better than some pacers played for India in the recent times.
 
Khaleel, Mavi, Nagarkoti etc needs to be brought asap.

Need to see before WC inme kitna dum hai.

Also heard a lot about Nathu Singh from Rajasthan. Wonder where he is!!
 
Trundler Kaul is bowling economically here, which may cost us in the long run.


Wt* , why do u bowl slower deliveries with a new ball.
 
Hardik Pandya is the real Trundler. Kaul is way better than some pacers played for India in the recent times.

It's still acceptable for Hardik, as he's playing as an AR, moreover he's a better batsman tha bowler. But, Kaul??

He's bowled economically here, but it will do us more harm than good in the long run.
 
Khaleel, Mavi, Nagarkoti etc needs to be brought asap.

Need to see before WC inme kitna dum hai.

Also heard a lot about Nathu Singh from Rajasthan. Wonder where he is!!

Don't worry all these Nathu Kathu Lals will become trundler too when they start playing for India.

Nagarkotti and Mavi were brilliant in the world cup but we don't have a culture of bringing in young fast bowlers into the team. Infact we hardly give chances to under 19 guys straightaway these days.
 
It's still acceptable for Hardik, as he's playing as an AR, moreover he's a better batsman tha bowler. But, Kaul??

He's bowled economically here, but it will do us more harm than good in the long run.

Well the other option in the current squad is Thakur and I have seen enough of him already. For now, Kaul is what we have and he's doing a decent job.
 
Don't worry all these Nathu Kathu Lals will become trundler too when they start playing for India.

Nagarkotti and Mavi were brilliant in the world cup but we don't have a culture of bringing in young fast bowlers into the team. Infact we hardly give chances to under 19 guys straightaway these days.

Thats a shame really. There should be some exceptions in this theory of ‘1st class cricket experience before Internationals’.

I’m sure these bowlers will become Srans and Mohit Sharma after playing on slow Indian pitches for a year or two.
 
Our standards are so low Kaul has an economy of 6 rpo in this match but according to some he is bowling economically lol.
 
Ewww 2 knuckle balls from Kaul, ball which is just 5 overs old 😢😢😢😢😢

71 mph
72 mph

Average speed 131 kph
And phaaaaastest 135...
 
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And whats this obsession with knuckle ball!!! That should have been a surprise ball but all these trundlers use it as stock delivery.
 
I think England should send Buttler at 4 since he is the only one picking Kuldeep well.

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Buttler
Morgan
Stokes
Ali
 
this siddarth kaul is so annoying.Trudler of highest level. He behaves like he is some fastest bowler.No you are not shoaib akhtar. Trundler.
 
India has only one good fast bowler that is jasprit bumrah. He is only decent one. Others are just awful.
 
this siddarth kaul is so annoying.Trudler of highest level. He behaves like he is some fastest bowler.No you are not shoaib akhtar. Trundler.

Hey don’t you dare insult Sidharth Marshal by taking his name in same sentence with Shoaib Trundler Akhtar.


And there goes the 1st wicket.
 
It’ll be crime not to play Kuldeep in Test series. Wonder who is gonna make the way for him.

But then you never know Kohli and Shashtri.
 
It's better to play 4 spinners than playing guys like Kaul and Umesh here. Even Ganguly used to bowl with some intensity but these guys are useless.
 
Indian spinners really do make up for tbe worst medium pace backup in the world .
 
Lol England can practice with theirs fancy bowling machines forever. Even then they will never learn to play spin. :)))
 
I remember watching an interview of Wasim Akram many years ago and he mentioned when he played for s county, the coach would tell the batsmen to not try and understand the spinner, but just sweep. That mentality remains ingrained.
 
I remember watching an interview of Wasim Akram many years ago and he mentioned when he played for s county, the coach would tell the batsmen to not try and understand the spinner, but just sweep. That mentality remains ingrained.

In county cricket, the spinner's role historically has been to come on 10 minutes before lunch and to give the seamers a rest. Entirely defensive role.

Whilst spinners are being used in a more attacking role since the abolition of the toss, there's just no spin bowling culture here - either bowling spin or playing spin.

When young batsmen don't play quality spin at home, they are going to struggle against international standard spinners.
 
From upcoming youngsters. I think khaleel Ahmed is real deal. He is tall, has good pace, can swing the ball and most importantly he is a left armer.He should be picked as soon as possible.I m not sure about u-19 guys.
 
Its a patta and they are bowling according to the conditions.

All odi pitches are like that

Its not hard to spot a bowling talent even on Pattas . The headband guy is more dinda than younis . It was unadkat before him .
 
Its a patta and they are bowling according to the conditions.

90% of the pitches are patta these days. We need to find better fast bowlers quickly before the World Cup to partner with Bumrah and Bhuvi. If they both get injured before the world cup we are doomed.
 
All odi pitches are like that

Its not hard to spot a bowling talent even on Pattas . The headband guy is more dinda than younis . It was unadkat before him .
England bowlers were much faster than ours last game and went to the boundaries even faster.Even Starc had been manhandled twice at his own home by the same batsmen.What I think they are trying to is to not give English bstsmen any pace to work with.
 
England need to stop being stubborn. Should have sent Buttler in.
 
They have already given him a name- ‘Merlin’

Merlin is the name of the bowling machine. It can replicate any delivery in the world, apparently. I think England originally started using it as a way to prepare for Warne.
 
Merlin is the name of the bowling machine. It can replicate any delivery in the world, apparently. I think England originally started using it as a way to prepare for Warne.

I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.

I heard some English commentators using this name - Merlin for Kuldeep.
 
Merlin is the name of the bowling machine. It can replicate any delivery in the world, apparently. I think England originally started using it as a way to prepare for Warne.
You have to pick a wristspinner from his hand.Else its lights out! Merlin wont help you in that.
 
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