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match to begin in half an hour.. reports suggest that a bouncy pitch has been made.. life won't be easy for India.. hope they will adjust.
 
dinakar said:
match to begin in half an hour.. reports suggest that a bouncy pitch has been made.. life won't be easy for India.. hope they will adjust.
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is it? why Dravid opted to bat first then ? :20:
 
Ashley Giles To Retire

News filtering through that Ashley Giles will announce his retirement at a press conference here tomorrow ... the first of the Ashes-winning side to quit.
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now that's funny stuff from cricinfo :91: :91:
 
Indieview said:
No changes from the last Test .. both the teams are same ..
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Umpires too unchanged.. Aleem Dar should have been in place of Howell, anycase no other match going around in the world..
 
3.3 Anderson to Jaffer, FOUR, after several sighters Jaffer finally has a go at one and hammers the ball behind square on the off for four. That ball got exactly what it deserved
 
3.6 Anderson to Jaffer, FOUR, well, better line but too full and Jaffer plays an effortless straight drive down the ground ... he barely leaves his crease as that races away across the unusually lush outfield
 
Wow, India going along at a good pace. Tremlett straying down legside as he is whipped away for four.
 
first drinks break.. openers have negotiated well the first hour of play....
 
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee! Hopefully that will pick up the heads in the field a bit.
 
W Jaffer c Pietersen b Anderson 35 (47b 6x4 1x6) SR: 74.46
 
And the first wicket. Short, wide and there for the taking from Anderson. And Jaffer goes for the uppercut. But, it doesn't go in the right direction and is caught at 3rd man by Kevin Pieterson.

He goes for 35. India 1/62.
 
Now time to try and put Dravid under pressure, arguably their worst batsman on the tour so far which has been a surprise.
 
Whippy said:
Now time to try and put Dravid under pressure, arguably their worst batsman on the tour so far which has been a surprise.
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16.3 Anderson to Dravid, FOUR!! short and wide outside off, gives Dravid enough room to free his arms, Dravid goes on the backfoot and cuts it to deep extra cover for four, cracker jacker of a shot to get off the mark here!!!
 
16.5 Anderson to Dravid, FOUR!!, short of length delivery outside the off stump, slanting into him slightly, Dravid goes on the backfoot and upper cuts it down to third man for four, over the slip cordon for four, that is an excellent shot!!! he slashed at it and slashed hard!!!
 
India will be looking for a 400+ total here! Big 1st inns totals at oval are usually the key to victories. Kumble may enjoy the extra bounce here when it comes to him having a bowl.
 
Whippy said:
Now time to try and put Dravid under pressure, arguably their worst batsman on the tour so far which has been a surprise.
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Not really ... He failed in the first innings of the lords test - agreed ... But had a really bad decision in the second innings ... Then, in the second test - he looked good but played into Vaughan's tactics ... Still managed 37 ... Second innings - he remained not out !

By his standards, he was average probably ... But, its really exaggerated when you say he was the worst batsman :)
 
If he hasn't been the worst of the Indian order then who has? He was abysmal at Lords and did not deliver at Trent Bridge either. Your sugar coated excuses do not change the fact that he has looked uncertain and has not made a run...a surprise because he is still one of the best they have
 
22.5 Sidebottom to Dravid, FOUR!!, good length delivery down the leg side on that occasion, Dravid goes on the backfoot and flicks it away to deep mid wicket, lovely shot there from Dravid!!!
 
And that's lunch.

India 1/117 (28)

Karthik 50*
Dravid 25*

Anderson 1/46 (8)
Panesar 1/10 (5)
 
Whippy said:
He was abysmal at Lords and did not deliver at Trent Bridge either. Your sugar coated excuses do not change the fact that he has looked uncertain and has not made a run...a surprise because he is still one of the best they have
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Very gentle reply ... :29:

Abysmal at lords ?? :20: One innings - he looked out of touch ... Thats it ! That doesn't make him the worst ... And he contributed to the team's scoring in a partnership with Tendulkar albeit not as much as he would have liked ... As for your question -

If he hasn't been the worst of the Indian order then who has?

I would say Dhoni ! He looked in all sorts of trouble throughout the tour apart from the later part of his innings at Lords ...
 
Dhoni saved the Lords test, and saving a test match on your own means something. Dravid might contribute his first meaningful score tday but in the first 2 tests he has been rubbish. End of.
 
invincible said:
Very gentle reply ... :29:

Abysmal at lords ?? :20: One innings - he looked out of touch ... Thats it ! That doesn't make him the worst ... And he contributed to the team's scoring in a partnership with Tendulkar albeit not as much as he would have liked ... As for your question -

If he hasn't been the worst of the Indian order then who has?

I would say Dhoni ! He looked in all sorts of trouble throughout the tour apart from the later part of his innings at Lords ...
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Why dont we discuss abt England's worst batsman throughout the series??? We have lot of options :))) :)))
 
Whippy said:
Dhoni saved the Lords test, and saving a test match on your own means something. Dravid might contribute his first meaningful score tday but in the first 2 tests he has been rubbish. End of.
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True, but hes still a class act and no one denys that. Hes just having a poor tour.
 
33.2 Panesar to Dravid, FOUR!!, Panesar tosses it up on the off, spins away from the right hander, Dravid reaches for it and drives it between extra cover and long off for four, in the air but well wide of the close in fielders, productive over already
That shot was hit in the air but right in the gap between the two fielders placed for the drive. "Catch it", cries Monty but that was a bump ball, not a catch at all.


33.1 Panesar to Dravid, FOUR!!, short and wide outside off, width on offer and Dravid latches onto it in a flash, Dravid goes on the backfoot and late cuts it down to third man for four, he played that late to get the placement right, shot from a master batsman
 
R Dravid 50*(84)

48th Test FIFTY!!, fifty after a long long time!!!
 
James Anderson is back into the attack to make his half century :D

*JM Anderson (rfm) 8.2 overs 46 Runs 5.52 Econ
 
43.5 Panesar to Karthik, SIX!!, Panesar tosses it up on the off, no real spin on that occasion, Karthik comes down the track and goes inside the line, lofts it over between extra cover and long off for a biggie!!! that is a shot from a classy batsman, he is proving his class with every shot of his!!! terrific timing and excellent use of the feet!!!


D Karthik* 85(132)
 
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Dravid bowled by Andersen. Yorker lenght with a little swing. Dravid trying to flick it and missed the ball
Ind 189-2
 
Karthik gone! Edges a wide Sidebottom delivery straight to Prior. Loose shot and England back into the game. Great innings by the young man.

199/3
 
Karthik misses his century. out on 91 ct behind off Sidebottom
Ind 199-3
 
Karthik looks to be unlucky there. no noise or deviation. sniko says nothing
Ind 203-3 after 52 overs
 
Karthik is quite the opener India have picked. Another brilliant innings from the youngster.

203/3 India.
 
Why don't they show the hot spot replay for the Karthik dimissal. That's what it's there for.
 
this was Karthik's snicko
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55.2 Sidebottom to Ganguly, FOUR!!, fuller length delivery on the off, Ganguly comes on the frontfoot, shows the full face of the bat and drives it to long off, beautiful shot that and that is a welcome boundary for India!!!
 
Who says I don't think Dravid is a class act? If people actually read my posts they might pick up on the fact that I still think that. Easa in particular should remember a post where I showered Dravid with praise as one of India's best captains ever and a better batsman than Tendulkar. But I've not been impressed with him much this year. I'm not even sure if he did enough today.
 
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Whippy said:
Who says I don't think Dravid is a class act? If people actually read my posts they might pick up on the fact that I still think that. Easa in particular should remember a post where I showered Dravid with praise as one of India's best captains ever and a better batsman than Tendulkar. But I've not been impressed with him much this year. I'm not even sure if he did enough today.
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Yes even i remember that conversation.
 
Prior drops Tendulkar off Sidebottom
Ind 245-3
Sidebottom probably saying I wish he was still sitting in his Porche
 
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Whippy said:
Who says I don't think Dravid is a class act? If people actually read my posts they might pick up on the fact that I still think that. Easa in particular should remember a post where I showered Dravid with praise as one of India's best captains ever and a better batsman than Tendulkar. But I've not been impressed with him much this year. I'm not even sure if he did enough today.
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Yes I do remember, and I know what you are saying - Dravid has looked out of touch for a while and its not like him not to deliver away from home, that is his specialty. I'm hoping for a typical masterclass come second innings, one that only Dravid can play. He is still a world class batsman.
 
New ball due in 2 overs. That might bring some excitment wickets or runs.
Ind 274-3
 
Ganguly given out LBW but replay showed a thick inside edge. He's not having much luck this series in terms of decision. But he controlled his reaction much better this time, credit to him.
 
Howell who was not giving out last test is giving outs today. second bad decision today
 
Not sure whats been worse today, the umpiring or Tendulkar's batting.
 
This is crap, another decision has gone against India.. really too much! :|
 
Tendulkar will get another 50+ score of course, but watching him today has been like watching the grass grow or the paint dry. He's better than this.. :(
 
Whippy said:
Not sure whats been worse today, the umpiring or Tendulkar's batting.
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Tendulkar's batting? He is making sure that India get a big score and also eat in some time in the Test.....This is not Twenty 20 ..its Test cricket...Got to keep your opponents in the middle longer . Scoing a 80 of 65 balls would not benefit India as much this long innings would. 450 or 475 and England are in deep trouble.
 
It's been a shocking innings thus far. There is no pressure at all on himself or India, and his response is to score slower than a granny on a heavenly batting wicket, against an attack that is the mixture of the England B and C teams. He seems to have no idea how to manipulate the bowling or keep the scoreboard ticking whatsoever. You cannot say he is trying to eat time - he clearly would have loved to score at a run a ball today, but the standard of his batting was so poor that he couldnt get off strike.

From a cricketing point of view it's a shame he wasn't caught behind earlier, because he was just a liability today, to the spectators and to the teams. It may be a test match but a 30 strike rate in these conditions and match situation is a complete joke.
 
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Easa said:
Tendulkar will get another 50+ score of course, but watching him today has been like watching the grass grow or the paint dry. He's better than this.. :(
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The most important thing is to get runs, he hasn't been entertaining but he is doing the job.
 
Whippy said:
Who says I don't think Dravid is a class act? If people actually read my posts they might pick up on the fact that I still think that. Easa in particular should remember a post where I showered Dravid with praise as one of India's best captains ever and a better batsman than Tendulkar. But I've not been impressed with him much this year. I'm not even sure if he did enough today.
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Was this post also aimed at me? I was just merely agreeing with you and reiterating hes just having a poor tour...
 
The other dude, who started talking about England batsmen instead of staying on-topic. Admittedly, most of our own batsmen have had a terrible series...
 
Guys this is test cricket,, as long as he is scoring runs its good for india...HE is not the same tendulkar but still very good to watch and he is trying his best to score.....
 
A good day for India.

The most important thing for India is Tendulkar is still at the crease and making runs, it's not one day cricket, a few quick wickets and India would be in real trouble.
 
Oh yes, the actual state of the match. Well, their batting approach is conservative and their lineup is prone to a sudden burst of wicket losses, so I think we can bowl them out for 450 or even under 400 if everything that's everything goes our way. If things don't go our way and the tail contributes, we are looking at 550, and from there then we can only draw the game at best.

To win the match: our bowlers should hit that 400-450 target and then our batsmen should match or better such a score with five or six sessions left in the test match - a possibility. Then we start all over again, and we can try and bowl India out a second time when the pressure is that bit higher, leaving ourselves a target to chase on the last day. This pattern has been followed numerous times before in the test arena and is the only realistic way to win a test match when the other side bats first on a belter.
 
gutty, gutty innings from Tendulkar today. He's scrapping it out for his country and it was great to see Holding comment on him saying that he's willing to take even blows on his body to get his country into a good position. He'll be in a better mood tomorrow.

Another 200 runs and we'll win the series! Let's go India!
 
Whippy said:
Not sure whats been worse today, the umpiring or Tendulkar's batting.
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I'll throw in another option. Your posts !!! Make no mistake - i used to appreciate your posts but today you are just trying to dig into the Indian batting line up (which according to you was "overrated" - BOY ! were you proved wrong ?? :) )...

1) England's B and C attack ?? Every single commentator on Sky sports said during Trentbridge and Lords that this unit out performed all other bowling units since the historic Ashes series in 2005 ... Now, if a C attack does that - I would be very worried about my A and B attacks ...

2) Sachin's batting might not have brought a cheer to spectators but the important thing was he stayed at the crease during 2 spells - one where the old ball was doing a bit in the air and then the other when the new ball was taken ... Him playing aggresively would have equated to playing a rash shot and exposing the tail when the conditions arent that batsmen-friendly ...

Face it ! He cannot any longer score at a SR of 60 ... So, when the others are going at a decent pace and the team's overall Runrate is close to 4, there is all the time that the batsmen can take to get going ...
 
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Why is everyone on Tendulkers back? He had to play an innings out there which was needed by his country. He is not in the best of form so had to grit it out there early on in his innings.
Any team who makes over 300+ in a day has done well of which he had a role to play. Had he been out cheaply then who knows what position India would have ended the day on.

If Inzi/Moyo played such an innings in a similar situation for Pakistan nobody would be complaining about the way they were playing.
 
Who Knows said:
Why is everyone on Tendulkers back? He had to play an innings out there which was needed by his country. He is not in the best of form so had to grit it out there early on in his innings.
Any team who makes over 300+ in a day has done well of which he had a role to play. Had he been out cheaply then who knows what position India would have ended the day on.

If Inzi/Moyo played such an innings in a similar situation for Pakistan nobody would be complaining about the way they were playing.
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:O

Clearly you dont visit PP that often
 
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