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England v South Africa l 3rd Test l Edgbaston l 30/7/08 to 03/08/2008

I'm all for guys playing naturally, but if I were England captain right now, Pietersen would find himself on the receiving end of a bollocking that wouldn't end till tomorrow. Stupid dismissal.
 
Augustus said:
I'm all for guys playing naturally, but if I were England captain right now, Pietersen would find himself on the receiving end of a bollocking that wouldn't end till tomorrow. Stupid dismissal.

Live by the sword and die by the sword these are the fine lines in cricket. Ball could have gone for 6 and KP would ave probably got a Ton. Hes that type of player but yes he does deserve a bollocking!
 
If England can score another 100 runs, It will be a very tight contest with Flintoff all fired up and last innings assist for Monty.
 
A very immature shot by Pietersen. He might have potentially thrown the game away from England.
 
45 run partnership with Collingwood making 31
Collingwood 81 - Ambrose 9
Eng 266-6 after 69 overs - lead of 183
12 overs left today
 
Collingwood reaches his 100 with a six. hundred came in 133 balls
Eng 287-6 - lead of 204
 
Axcellent 100 by the man of the hour, Paul Collingwood...showing KP how to get one with a 6 on 94.
 
Well done Wor* Collingwood - good innings

*when he messes up he will become mackem Collingwood :D
 
That's the end of Shah's career then (unless he replaces Vaughan).

Good for Wobbles, he was an inch from being dropped and now he's forced England into a position where they can win the match.
 
I think Pietersen should get a bollocking but you can't complain about the 94 runs, and he did what he's there for, to change the momentum of the game. Well done to Collingwood, we should have expected it from him really, usually produces when his back is particularly up against the wall. How about another 50-100 runs tomorrow and a thrilling Ashes 05-style run chase, 3 years on at the same ground? Cannot waaaait. wish I wasn't working or I'd seriously consider making the trip.
 
Priceless stuff on the BBC blog. Not saying I agree with it all, just great though :)))

25. At 8:32pm on 01 Aug 2008, pleasesackagnew wrote:
"Agnew. You really are a prat. Kevin Pietersen is arguably the best batsman in the world today (yes, including Ponting), is loved by the the people that actually PAY for their tickets (witness the ovation at Lords for his century, including me) and is the most entertaining English batsman since Ian Botham. But more than all of that, his ability to score pressure runs is matchless. Despite this, you trot out your ridiculous, curmudgeonly, tiresome and self-important tripe, trampling over Paul Collingwood's brilliance in your frothing desire to slate KP, again. Please retire from TMS. The best you ever were was a straight man for Brian Johnson (DIFFICULT JOB) and the only reason you are still employed is that the BBC don't care about cricket sufficiently to notice how bad you are. Go."

Bloody hell.
 
Mr nudge is like our Axe murderer :ijaz. Performs only when he is about to be dropped. Of course Ijaz was 10 times more talented than wobbly.
 
Got a sneaky feeling england will win the game from here!
 
Robert said:
That's the end of Shah's career then (unless he replaces Vaughan).

Good for Wobbles, he was an inch from being dropped and now he's forced England into a position where they can win the match.
Whats the thing with Shah? Nasser also mentioned him, but do u really think he is a capable TEST batsmen?

I think he will fail miserably, he seems to be a one day/twenty20 player to me
 
it pains me immensely to say it but a good innings from cuptaan nudge...just about to be dropped and hits a ton..now expect a nice string of low scores till the next time...lol...(sorry cant help it.....i cant deal with people who think nudges around the corner are actually shots...sums up what I think is wrong with english cricket as a whole!!)....
 
Great come back by England. I'm so glad the series has come back to life....winning is fun , but watching close competitive cricket is even better.
 
Surprised the thread went so quiet, after South Africa was set a reasonable 281 for victory.

Oh well, like i said it was a reasonable target but they need a Flintoff special here

South Africa 42/0 in 13th over

With Panesar bowling btw! I know the pitch was suppose to break up but come on! Why waste the new ball? I think all these failures have gotten to Vaughn!
 
Glorious shot. Nothing better than a straight drive.

I think SA have the advantage here, for sure. The pitch is pretty flat and slow, and SA's batsmen are in great form. Still, it is a fourth innings and SA are known to choke.

Interesting comparison with the India-Lanka game where a similar target will be set for SL, but where I think India have the advantage because of the state of the pitch.
 
Mohsin_Pak786 said:
I know the pitch was suppose to break up but come on! Why waste the new ball?

Pitch looks pretty flat to me, to be honest. Maybe with the sun out on it today, it will break up. Monty is getting a touch of assistance but by and large these are not difficult batting conditions at all.

50 up, great start.
 
Looks like South Africa are well set to do what they haven't been able to do in their last couple of visits to England and...............................beat England after taking a 1-0 lead in the series!

I dont know about you, but this performance reminds me of the 1990s England test team!
 
Another boundary - another straight hit, this is genuinely great viewing for a neutral

65-0
 
Full toss to the ankle and McKenzie doesn't see it and ducks. Out LBW
SA 65-1 after 17.3 overs - need 216 to win
59 overs left today

17.3 Flintoff to McKenzie, OUT, complete misjudgment from McKenzie! Flintoff fires in a yorker, McKenzie somehow fails to pick it and doesn't offer a shot, the ball swings in in the air and hits the boot, umpire Steve Davis gives it out. Hawkeye reckons that would have clipped the offstump. If you don't offer a stroke you're generally in big trouble
 
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How many times do u see a cricketer liek Flintoff: bowling fast + aggressive + getting wickets AND also getting runs......
 
Amla 6 LBW Panesar
SA 78-2 after 23 overs - need 203 overs

hawkeye suggests going over the stumps. Aleem Dar says out. Commentators Pollock and someone saying it looked out so not bad
 
If it was against them, these same commentators would say "there will be questions raised about the standard of umpiring in this series" :))
 
Kallis is absolutely FUMING. Never seen him this angry. Swearing on the way back.

But anyway he has to walk back

83-3
 
Kallis gone

From a full-toss :))

He really must've been nervous or something else, cause it didnt see such a good delivery to me :))
 
Kallis 5 out LBW Flintoff. Another fulltoss and batsman doesn't see it
SA 83-3 after 26 overs - need 198 to win

commentators saying the sight screen is low and maybe something on the end in stands they cannot pick the ball as the arm is above it

25.5 Flintoff to Kallis, OUT, another batsman fails to sight the ball properly! This is very dramatic stuff, folks
 
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lollol said:
Kallis gone

From a full-toss :))

He really must've been nervous or something else, cause it didnt see such a good delivery to me :))

Did he hit the bail on the way back in anger too? Never seen him so SEETHING with rage!
 
Ok, flintoff is bowling really good.

But the batsmen arent picking his full deliveries at all? Whats happening there????? Sure, he bowled great, dont get me wrong, but the way which the batsmen react......

Even if i leave my anti-england bias out of this, this just cant be right.... just seen the replays, the way the batsmen just LOST the ball... amazing....
 
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lollol said:
Ok, flintoff is bowling really good.

But the batsmen arent picking his full deliveries at all? Whats happening there????? Sure, he bowled great, dont get me wrong, but the way which the batsmen react......
sightscreen is low and his bowling arm goes above it. something with blue seats at the end too maybe.

25.5 Flintoff to Kallis, OUT, another batsman fails to sight the ball properly! This is very dramatic stuff, folks. Flintoff dishes out a full toss and the ball comes into Kallis, he decides to leave the ball but is struck flush on the left thigh, umpire Steve Davis gives him out. Kallis is absolutely fuming, Mickey Arthur too vents his frustration at the pavilion. There has to be some issue with the sightscreen here
 
^ah, that explains.... what exactly is wrong there?

Cause cricinfo is mentioning this, but cant seem to see anything on TV.... and the commentators also dont say anything...
 
The radio ones are mentioning it. They mentioned it yesterday too. But that is the playing conditions for both teams and cannot be changed. No stuff like add covers/sheets around
 
Full with Aussies :P
 

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Flintoff off after bowling 8 over spell. One more over would have been good
 
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Gosh, the way Monty and these English fielders appeal is just so obnoxious...and yet the ICC is always fining Pakistani players for excessive appealing!
 
What a whinger. No-one else has had problems with the sight-screen that I've seen, at least not for more than one ball (McKenzie). If he thinks it should have been called a no-ball on height then he needs an anatomy lesson - you couldn't possibly be lbw to a ball that was over waist height. Idiot.

The Amla decision was a shocker, but I'm grateful for it.
 
What is wrong with the sight screen? And was it the same when England were batting? If not this is quite pathetic gamesmanship.
 
Pathetic appealing by these guys.... appealing for almost everything

Cricinfo: Panesar to Smith, no run, pads up well outside the offstump, they go up in appeal, that would have hit the seventh stump
 
Prince out ct behind off Anderson
SA 93-4 after 29.2 overs - need 188 to win
 
Augustus said:
What a whinger. No-one else has had problems with the sight-screen that I've seen, at least not for more than one ball (McKenzie). If he thinks it should have been called a no-ball on height then he needs an anatomy lesson - you couldn't possibly be lbw to a ball that was over waist height. Idiot.

The Amla decision was a shocker, but I'm grateful for it.
U must be blind than, if u cant see SOMETHING is wrong :)

Ofcourse, he was lbw, but the way the batsmen react to flintoff's bowling there HAD to be something wrong, even i could see that while i just joined the match.. and i didnt knew anything about sightscreen at all... even cricinfo mentions it. Unless he bowled 100mph+...
 
TurkishCricketFan said:
What is wrong with the sight screen? And was it the same when England were batting? If not this is quite pathetic gamesmanship.
Its a fair game, ofcourse the umpires are making sure it is!! Both teams have played under the same conditions.

But i think its related to flintoff's height, im not sure cause i just joined the match
 
28.6 Panesar to Prince, no run, delivery looped up down the leg side, Prince goes on the backfoot and looks to flick it away, HUGE APPEAL!! for caught behind, they think it is off the glove, the umpire doesn't, Panesar might just be on the border line of appealing and trying to intimidate the umpire!!!

This actually seemed to have gloved it... :P
 
lollol said:
Its a fair game, ofcourse the umpires are making sure it is!! Both teams have played under the same conditions.

But i think its related to flintoff's height, im not sure cause i just joined the match

surely Morkel is as tall as Freddie ?

anyways this kind of things just leaves a sour taste, but if England batted in the same conditions can't really complain that much.
 
lollol said:
28.6 Panesar to Prince, no run, delivery looped up down the leg side, Prince goes on the backfoot and looks to flick it away, HUGE APPEAL!! for caught behind, they think it is off the glove, the umpire doesn't, Panesar might just be on the border line of appealing and trying to intimidate the umpire!!!

This actually seemed to have gloved it... :P
And it was....

Replays: didnt show anything
Hotspot: inconclusive

High-motion: confirms that it has a tiny tiny glove on it

If everyone had this technique available :P
 
England will win I think but is this victory in the spirit of the game ??? i think not , this is a sad day for cricket it really is a shame that they couldnt fight this out without the advantage of poor sight screening and terrrible umpiring.

Could u imagine if England were on the recieving end I dont think Beefy would be to happy .
 
TurkishCricketFan said:
surely Morkel is as tall as Freddie ?

anyways this kind of things just leaves a sour taste, but if England batted in the same conditions can't really complain that much.
Yeah, he is indeed.....

Once again, im not sure whats happening there, as i just joined it.

But ive seen some of flintoffs bowling, and dont get me wrong, he bowls GREAT, but the way batsmen react to him..... just doesnt sem right
 
Hotspot: shows the tiny glove on it...
 

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England will win I think but is this victory in the spirit of the game ??? i think not , this is a sad day for cricket it really is a shame that they couldnt fight this out without the advantage of poor sight screening and terrrible umpiring.

Could u imagine if England were on the recieving end I dont think Beefy would be to happy .
Can u tell me more about the terrible umpiring? Was it really that bad???

I've missed a large portion of this match, but i do know that the Sky commentators always lash out at the umpires... and always talk about "the standard of umpiring"
 
What a load of rubbish - the sight-screen is the same for everybody and so are the Umpires. Look at the Kallis decision a couple of days ago.
 
No one said it isnt the same ;)

Ive not seen the match, and i only said i could see something wrong here....

I think this is something that shouldve been fixed instantly, which ofcourse brings me to the question: why hasnt this been fixed??
 
it cannot be fixed as a team has batted in same conditions before. But the radio did mention that they covered a sponsors' board/logo on the other end yesterday???
 
Beefy mentions that ONLY the right-handers struggle and ONLY against flintoff... he doesnt know whats wrong also.....
 
If i were flintoff, i would keep bowling these full length deliveries.

Im sure some would say thats its not in the spirit of the game, but i believe its perfectly right, as the ENG batsmen also played in these conditions!
 
lollol said:
Im sure some would say thats its not in the spirit of the game, but i believe its perfectly right, as the ENG batsmen also played in these conditions!

Since when have England played in the spirit of the game, anyways...so, yes, they should definitely go for it! :dna
 
Some people have serious issues with the English team. Get over it guys.
Great display by the ENG team so far. Go Flintoff ! ! !
 
someone from the ground saying the configuration has been same for years. He doesn't know what the problem is and there have been no complaints by umpires
 
SAF can still win this.....

As long a smith is there...
 
lollol said:
SAF can still win this.....

As long a smith is there...

This partnership is crucial...don't want to leave too much to Mark and the tail
 
Partnership of 40 in quick time...still a long way to go, but as long as this pair is around, there is hope
 
Smith survives. HUGE turn

38.5 Panesar to Smith, no run, oh but this one is mighty close! It spins and keeps low and slams him on the shins after turning back in a mile. Very difficult to give that one, though, given how far outside off it was when it pitched
 
wanted_desi said:
OK that was out, since smith didn't offer shot. SMith very lucky man here
For us its simple after seeing the replays, but the umpire needs to be certain about it.
 
lollol said:
cars, why do u support SAF btw?

I don't support SA. In many games I lean more towards one team than the other...but I certainly don't support SA.
 
Panesar's ball turned a meter... wow :P
 

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Run-Out missed!!! Look where the ball is :P
 

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Current partnership 51 runs, 13.1 overs, RR: 3.87 (Smith 32, de Villiers 18)
 
That's gonna be a massive blow. It could really really hurt then English.
 
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