England vs Australia | 4th Ashes Test | Chester-le-Street | 11/8/13 | Day 3

[Ruri]

Chennai, Kolkota and Mumbai are always very humid due to their proximity to the sea. But it does not swing there all the time, does it? May be cool English weather + humidity is needed?

I dunno. I have seen Jimmy swing it miles in Sri Lanka.

 

[Ruri]

Well done Bell.

 

[IndianWillow]

Australia in deep trouble now.

 

[Ruri]

Effectively 200 run lead. Excellent day for England. Another 100-130 runs and they will feel very comfortable

 

[Robert]

Bell has been hugely impressive under pressure and I think that is four tons in the last five Ashes matches. Haddin must be sick of the sight of him.

I think England are going 3-0 up.

 

[James]

Ding Dong, the Aussies are dead.

 

[IndianWillow]

I dunno. I have seen Jimmy swing it miles in Sri Lanka.

Jimmy averages 40+ in SL, and is only half the bowler he is in England.

I live in a coastal place with a high humidity year round - and often see local club bowlers swing prodigiously here, albeit at lesser pace.

But then why are English conditions considered more difficult to bat on, against pace bowlers? Is it the extra bounce? If you can swing wherever there is humidity, then many wickets in India and SL will be paradise for pace bowlers, because of the high humidity of the tropics.

 

[Ruri]

Jimmy averages 40+ in SL, and is only half the bowler he is in England.

I live in a coastal place with a high humidity year round - and often see local club bowlers swing prodigiously here, albeit at lesser pace.

But then why are English conditions considered more difficult to bat on, against pace bowlers? Is it the extra bounce? If you can swing wherever there is humidity, then many wickets in India and SL will be paradise for pace bowlers, because of the high humidity of the tropics.

You asked about swing. He swung it miles on last tour. And averaged like 25 or 26. His overall average does not change the fact that he was able to swing it in SL

 

[Robert]

Jimmy averages 40+ in SL, and is only half the bowler he is in England.

I live in a coastal place with a high humidity year round - and often see local club bowlers swing prodigiously here, albeit at lesser pace.

But then why are English conditions considered more difficult to bat on, against pace bowlers? Is it the extra bounce? If you can swing wherever there is humidity, then many wickets in India and SL will be paradise for pace bowlers, because of the high humidity of the tropics.

It's not orthodox swing that has historically been the big threat in England, it is seam bowling on green wickets, much like in NZ.

But we don't get green wickets in English tests any more. They don't bounce much either, except at The Oval. They are usually slow and true, breaking up on days four and five. This is why reverse swing has become key for England bowlers.