England vs India | 4th Test | Manchester | July 23-27 | Match Discussion

[KingKhanWC]

Not watching it live...just following scores

An edge is coming soon...

 

[Ball Blazer]

Only 11 captains in 85 Tests have elected to do that at Old Trafford... and it doesn't usually go well.

 

[Devadwal]

This ball get more seam and swing more after 12 over.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Different weather different conditions different year different team.

It's a centuries old stat at this point. Covers alot of ground..

 

[Nikhil_cric]

What luck? England have bowled only 26 % good length deliveries.

Some posters are just biased beyond belief.

 

[RexRex]

how's the rain forecast for the test ?

 

[RexRex]

India to get a big first innings score.. they look very comfortable.

 

[RamLakhan]

What luck? England have bowled only 26 % good length deliveries.

Some posters are just biased beyond belief.

Pakistan still played beautifully the other day, only that they were unluckly! Here India is extremely lucky to survive, they should have been already allout by now! Still they will be humiliated in this test (they are already humiliated in the series!)

 

[kron]

2 questions need to be asked

1) India always loses tosses. Why? They would have won a few more icc titles if not for toss losses
2) why did stokes choose to bowl here. Unless he only likes chasing.

 

[RamLakhan]

Jaiswal should not throw it away now... He should show maturity in this match (hopefully).

 

[Rajdeep]

I am getting a feeling India will be 2 down by lunch

 

[Devadwal]

India Mostly lose wickets 15 minutes around lunch time during this series. We are entering in that time zone.

 

[RexRex]

Jofra is on

Whattay bowler.

 

[U$ofA]

Eng. are going to be 2-3 overs short for what would be par at lunch. Will it be the same in session2?

 

[batandballbattle]

Jof could have had Jais a few times by now, short ball vulnerability is still evident

 

[jnaveen1980]

Jof could have had Jais a few times by now, short ball vulnerability is still evident

It is not vulnerable. It is ego mostly. He is young. Often get sucked into ego battle.

 

[OldWarHorse]

Comfy stuff. Boring but safe cricket

 

[Vikram1989]

Is archer the goat already injured by playing second test match in 4 years? He was bowling mostly at 138 .

 

[followed]

Pretty stupid decision by stokes to bowl first here. No team has ever won here by opting to bowl first.
Stokes and English management should have known better.

 

[Ball Blazer]

England's bottom four (Dawson, Woakes, Carse, Archer) came into this Test with 20,562 first-class runs between them, compared to 19,109 for India's top four

 

[sweep_shot]

India lose their first wicket.

IND - 94/1.

 

[mominsaigol]

India lose their first wicket.

IND - 94/1.

Lets see how sai performs, karun has been a flop in England conditions

 

[mominsaigol]

England will win, Leave it to India to Break the record

 

[sweep_shot]

England will win, Leave it to India to Break the record

I think India may post 400-500 but I also expect England to score 400-500.

We may see another close Test just like the first 3 Tests (with England prevailing in the end).

 

[mominsaigol]

I think India may post 400-500 but I also expect England to score 400-500.

We may see another close Test just like the first 3 Tests (with England prevailing in the end).

I think itll be a draw

 

[sweep_shot]

I think itll be a draw

Draw means India can't win the series. I either want to see a draw or an English win.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Draw means India can't win the series. I either want to see a draw or an English win.

England will smash this joke team, don't worry sweeper bro.

 

[kron]

I think itll be a draw

no chance. there will be a result for sure
as long as no rain, there will be a result.

looks a 300 to 400 pitch

 

[OldWarHorse]

Worrying times for England. Sai is about to lock in, trouble ahead

 

[U$ofA]

I think India may post 400-500 but I also expect England to score 400-500.

We may see another close Test just like the first 3 Tests (with England prevailing in the end).

Agree. This test should be another great advertisement for test cricket. Continues a wonderful series for test cricket lovers.

 

[kron]

best white ball team in the world by far - india in t20 and odi
best red ball team in the world by far right now because several teams are in transition - south africa
and then england.

followed by aus and india

 

[RidiculousMan]

Good to see India have inducted a Military Medium in their XI.



Going back to their tradition in hopes to salvage a win. May it work well

 

[nish_mate]

Agree. This test should be another great advertisement for test cricket. Continues a wonderful series for test cricket lovers.

And you think he is one? Kya bhai kuch bhee...

 

[KingKhanWC]

Good start from India, missed most of first session but the wickets will start falling now.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Sudharsan looks a little scared out there. Must be very nervous, understandably.

 

[Devadwal]

Good to see India have inducted a Military Medium in their XI.

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Going back to their tradition in hopes to salvage a win. May it work well

His pace is Faster than most of current Pakistan Pacers

 

[mominsaigol]

His pace is Faster than most of current Pakistan Pacers

Lol coward ran away. Right when I was about to post 20 more ss

 

[KingKhanWC]

The spinner with sunglasses in cloudy weather does the trick.

big wicket. Now get this arrogant skipper of India for a collapse to begin.

 

[sweep_shot]

Wicket. Woo hoo!

IND - 120/2.

 

[batandballbattle]

already looks better than bashir

 

[KingKhanWC]

The good ol English crowd in Manchester is booing Gill, the Indian fans are hiding under their coats.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Jaiswal gets to his 12th Test half-century
also completes 1000 Test runs
ecomes the 1st Indian opener in the last 50 years to score 50+ at the Old Trafford.

 

[Devadwal]

Should have played on front foot instead backfoot.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Little to no spin at all, only if the ball catches edge of the little rough patch. Dawson will be very economical.

The pacers need to pitch it up more and not fall for the old short lengths at Old Trafford.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Is Sudharshan a bigger talent than Jaiswal?

 

[Devadwal]

Is Sudharshan a bigger talent than Jaiswal?

Jaiswal is World best young talented players at this moment

 

[RamLakhan]

Is Sudharshan a bigger talent than Jaiswal?

As per IPL he certainly is...

 

[Nikhil_cric]

These are the 2 best timers of the cricket ball currently in world cricket

 

[RamLakhan]

Jaiswal is World best young talented players at this moment

Jaiswal has already achieved in Tests, scored runs (and tons) in tough conditions... (as an opener)

 

[Devadwal]

Jaiswal has already achieved in Tests, scored runs (and tons) in tough conditions... (as an opener)

Debut match century in Westindies, Australia and England .

 

[KingKhanWC]

These are the 2 best timers of the cricket ball currently in world cricket

This Sai chap looks to have an strange batting style. If he is the best timer in the world, Ravi Shastri is the pope.

 

[Devadwal]

These are the 2 best timers of the cricket ball currently in world cricket

Sai is free flowing batsman but here he is playing very very slow

 

[sweep_shot]

This Sai chap looks to have an strange batting style. If he is the best timer in the world, Ravi Shastri is the pope.

Just typical Indian hype.

If an Indian gets hyped, always be skeptical.

 

[Devadwal]

Just typical Indian hype.

If an Indian gets hyped, always be skeptical.

Santo is best batsman in the world.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Just typical Indian hype.

If an Indian gets hyped, always be skeptical.

Now Roooooooooot is about to overtake Tendulkar, they are desperate for a new hero.

 

[Rajdeep]

Now Roooooooooot is about to overtake Tendulkar, they are desperate for a new hero.

Whats in it for Pakistanis? They need to focus on beating Bangladesh

 

[KingKhanWC]

Whats in it for Pakistanis? They need to focus on beating Bangladesh

I support England too.

A lot of head nodding out there by these two batsmen but no goat timing yet so far?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

This Sai chap looks to have an strange batting style. If he is the best timer in the world, Ravi Shastri is the pope.

Another barely literate opinion from you. Not surprising

 

[KingKhanWC]

Another barely literate opinion from you. Not surprising

The bloke hasnt played more than 2 tests but in your brain he is the one of the greatest timers of the ball? Please justify this retarted comment before calling out others.

 

[RamLakhan]

Now Roooooooooot is about to overtake Tendulkar, they are desperate for a new hero.

Bazball flat pitches helped this cause! Just like doctored Indian Pitches helped Ashwin/Jadeja!

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India moving slowly but steadily...Jaiswal wicket was a big plus

 

[Hellion]

Pretty stupid decision by stokes to bowl first here. No team has ever won here by opting to bowl first.
Stokes and English management should have known better.

Of the last 4 matches , one was drawn and 3 were won by the side batting second at Old Trafford.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The bloke hasnt played more than 2 tests but in your brain he is the one of the greatest timers of the ball? Please justify this retarted comment before calling out others.

You don't need to watch a player in Tests to know he's a good timer of the ball. If thats the case then you know very little indeed

 

[KingKhanWC]

Bazball flat pitches helped this cause! Just like doctored Indian Pitches helped Ashwin/Jadeja!

Nobody will care, what will be known in history for the top all time test batter.

 

[batandballbattle]

Captain gill gone. Ill advised leave

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Gill has never been the same since that meeky sledging

 

[RamLakhan]

The bloke hasnt played more than 2 tests but in your brain he is the one of the greatest timers of the ball? Please justify this retarted comment before calling out others.

You need to have a sharp timing to be leading run scorer in an IPL Season (and IPL is a premier & competitive cricket format where the BEST in the WORLD participate! Only miss Pakistani cricketers who are from a bottom tier team! Not many players from Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, etc, are making it to IPL anyhow these days!)

Talking about only "Timing", not "Technique"... Yes for that he needs to still prove...

 

[KingKhanWC]

You don't need to watch a player in Tests to know he's a good timer of the ball. If thats the case then you know very little indeed

Its the only level that counts. Did you watch him at the village fair?


Anyway, one of the great timers of the ball walks off for 12 holding his tail & bat between his legs. Bye

 

[sweep_shot]

The bloke hasnt played more than 2 tests but in your brain he is the one of the greatest timers of the ball? Please justify this retarted comment before calling out others.

To an Indian, an Indian player can become an ATG just after 1 game.

 

[RamLakhan]

Nobody will care, what will be known in history for the top all time test batter.

Similar thing applies to Ashwin/Jadeja/Kumble stats then... (And Bumrah stats)... There you apply double standards and put asterisks...

Also he is helped by DRS... If Tendulkar had the benefit of DRS, both Average & Number of Runs would have been much higher!

 

[Justcrazy]

India will look to bat big in the first innings here.

 

[RamLakhan]

To an Indian, an Indian player can become an ATG just after 1 game.

Nobody called him ATG... But certain posters called some Konstas-dude as Bumrah's boss after just 1 freaking innings...

 

[KingKhanWC]

You need to have a sharp timing to be leading run scorer in an IPL Season (and IPL is a premier & competitive cricket format where the BEST in the WORLD participate! Only miss Pakistani cricketers who are from a bottom tier team! Not many players from Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, etc, are making it to IPL anyhow these days!)

Talking about only "Timing", not "Technique"... Yes for that he needs to still prove...

You watching IPL and claim he is the best timer lol. Ill move on

 

[RamLakhan]

Pant should keep an eye on Session Breaks (not on milestones)

 

[Justcrazy]

Both teams have strengthened there batting here .

 

[KingKhanWC]

Once again the best cricketer in this test, captain comes up trumps. Stokes is a legend, what a player.

 

[RamLakhan]

You watching IPL and claim he is the best timer lol. Ill move on

Yes he is currently the best timer of cricket ball, and IPL is one form of cricket played by 90% (eligible) cricketers...

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Without 400, India have no chance at all

 

[Rajdeep]

India will not score more than 250

 

[Justcrazy]

India will not score more than 250

They are already 150 , and have been batting till number 8 .