England vs India | 4th Test | Manchester | July 23-27 | Match Discussion

[Devadwal]

No chance of scoring 400 but like my prediction prior to the innings around 330.

Without 400, India have no chance at all

 

[sweep_shot]

IND - 147/3 (51 overs).

England are on top.

 

[Justcrazy]

Team batting last will face problems , For England there first innings will be crucial , they will have to bat long .

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Indians missing a Pakistani here...lol Bashir the don

 

[mominsaigol]

Gill in test. What a failure, cant perform in spicy wickets. Could have easily broken Bradman's record

 

[Justcrazy]

Pant is looking in good form , I think time has come he should be playing as a pure batter .

 

[KingKhanWC]

Now is a good time to bring back Archer, some throat balls to podgy Pant.

 

[KingKhanWC]

India will not score more than 250

Sudharasan is playing for the draw it seems.

 

[batandballbattle]

still even tbh, if that sai catch was taken it would have been advantage england

 

[Justcrazy]

The England issue is they do not have quality fast bowlers , bowlers who can get two three wickets in a spell to put opposition on the back foot.

 

[Devadwal]

So you admitting Pakistan born players are rubbish. Good

Indians missing a Pakistani here...lol Bashir the don

 

[KingKhanWC]

The England issue is they do not have quality fast bowlers , bowlers who can get two three wickets in a spell to put opposition on the back foot.

Stokes and Archer have done in many times.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

So you admitting Pakistan born players are rubbish. Good

Lol ok but what rubbish would be the side against whom they get the job done... according to your reasoning

 

[The Bald Eagle]

After a gap of 2928 days and 102 Tests, Liam Dawson returns to Test cricket

 

[Devadwal]

still even tbh, if that sai catch was taken it would have been advantage england

England is happier side at this moment but yea india is not far behind. This is crucial partnership for india.

 

[Devadwal]

Lol ok but what rubbish would be the side against whom they get the job done... according to your reasoning

I don't claimed Anything but its you who said india is missing Pakistani Bashir.

 

[kron]

Once again the best cricketer in this test, captain comes up trumps. Stokes is a legend, what a player.

Average 40 in aus
38 in india
39 in nz
39 in u.a.e
45 plus in Pakistan

Bowling average that is.

Having said that as a leader he truly is inspirational. In English and saffer conditions he is deadly it seems.

At his absolute best, his batting imo was more important his bowling.

However he has a knack of picking crucial wickets. That’s why I rate him highly.

The averages I posted are still surprising to me. Every time I see him get gets crucial wickets.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I don't claimed Anything but its you who said india is missing Pakistani Bashir.

Yes, he is doing average...need great improvements

 

[Justcrazy]

Archer is back , after a wicket less spell.

 

[Devadwal]

Seem like Light are not enough. First Sai complaint about it now carse didn't see the Ball

 

[RamLakhan]

Unlike Nair, Sai Sudarshan will make it count once he gets his eye in...

 

[RamLakhan]

Sudharasan is playing for the draw it seems.

Then its a good job and good range of skills (from being a top-scorer and high SR in T20s to this...)

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Archer down to 82 mph.

 

[Hellion]

Yes, he is doing average...need great improvements

Don't worry. He is the future of English cricket.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Beautiful timing on that pull shot off Archer by Sai. Classy stuff.

 

[Vikram1989]

Archer down to 82 mph.

I see twice or thrice only he crossed 140

 

[Devadwal]

Archer down to 82 mph.

Playing Test after 4 years still pace is down ? Maybe need 8 year rest to gain the Full fitness

 

[mominsaigol]

Sai is rubbish

 

[Justcrazy]

Solid partnership is developing here.

 

[Hellion]

Sai is already more talented than all Pakistani batsmen of the last 30 years if not all time.

Good lad.

 

[RKhan_Cricket]

Problem with England is they don't have a bowler who can bowl constant good line and length apart from woakes but he is so slow that you get a world of time to be prepare for those nip backers.
Archer has lost it he is a shadow of himself apart from that useless pace that he still has.
Players like Gill are not made for test saying it now it's just the bowling and flat pitches which made gill bradman. Look at now little bit of help and he forgets how to put bat on ball.
Bumrah would have wrecked havoc with his bowling if they had to bowl first.

 

[mominsaigol]

England will win this. Once they do, I'm coming from KP

 

[mominsaigol]

Anyway, am not interested in this test.

Truth be told I havent watched a single innings of india batting this entire series.

Only england batting.

 

[mominsaigol]

Anyway, am not interested in this test.

Truth be told I havent watched a single innings of india batting this entire series.

Only england batting.

@Devadwal

 

[Devadwal]

Sai has better techniques than Fraud saim , Konstas or Many other's overhyped Australian , Pakistani and English player's.

Sai is already more talented than all Pakistani batsmen of the last 30 years if not all time.

Good lad.

 

[RamLakhan]

Anyway, am not interested in this test.

Truth be told I havent watched a single innings of india batting this entire series.

Only england batting.

I bet you watched and enjoyed Bashir's last ball and felt sorry for Jadeja!

 

[mominsaigol]

I bet you watched and enjoyed Bashir's last ball and felt sorry for Jadeja!

Naw didnt watch it. Just followed scorecard.

I refuse to watch India bat in test cricket.

 

[Vikram1989]

Sai is already more talented than all Pakistani batsmen of the last 30 years if not all time.

Good lad.

He is not even wearing arm guard and looking comfortable against the pacers. Definitely we have got a very good young test team .

 

[mominsaigol]

Based of scorecard I can tell sai is batting like a coward lol

 

[PAKFAN12]

Anyway, am not interested in this test.

Truth be told I havent watched a single innings of india batting this entire series.

Only england batting.

Sai is rubbish like indians

If you haven't watched even a single innings of the Indian innings then how can you give an opinion about the Indian players without watching them?

 

[mominsaigol]

If you haven't watched even a single innings of the Indian innings then how can you give an opinion about the Indian players without watching them?

I just can, cricinfo commentary is enough. When india bats I yawn

 

[mominsaigol]

I just can, cricinfo commentary is enough. When india bats I yawn

See cricinfo just told me pant hit a 6

 

[mominsaigol]

I will watch it when england tonk 800

 

[PAKFAN12]

I just can, cricinfo commentary is enough. When india bats I yawn

So you are an expert who gives opinion by looking at the scoreboard. Cool

 

[sweep_shot]

IND - 193/3.

England need some wickets.

 

[mominsaigol]

So you are an expert who gives opinion by looking at the scoreboard. Cool

Yes. That alone is enough. Just like how jaiswal is avg 38 this series

 

[Devadwal]

Archer so far 16 overs,44 runs and Zero wickets

 

[kron]

Liam Dawson is hard to hit
Good control

 

[Rajdeep]

Cloudy first day in Manchester. If England bowl first , Archer could rip through the Indian batting lineup. India are due a low score , today could be the day . India under 200 is possible

England bowled first but India is 202/3

Why are you so How?

 

[sweep_shot]

IND - 203/3.

 

[Savak]

The ball was doing enough in the early sessions, England did not capitalize. Anderson and Broad in their primes would have easily picked up 4-5 wickets in the opening session if provided these conditions.

 

[mominsaigol]

Terrible match. Boring and uninteresting so far. England will spice it up though.

 

[Devadwal]

Too much pollution? After carse now stokes didn't see the ball.

 

[batandballbattle]

Pant has some bleeding and swelling on his foot now after that audacious reverse

 

[Devadwal]

Pant is done for this series. Damn

 

[The Bald Eagle]

A threatening partnership for England

 

[sweep_shot]

Pant has some bleeding and swelling on his foot now after that audacious reverse

Good for England I guess.

Anyway, I think Pant tries to be too funky. It may cause him many injuries down the line.

 

[PAKFAN12]

O dear. That’s really a big blow ,hard luck Pant.

 

[sweep_shot]

Pant's injury looked bad. I am not sure if he can bat further in this innings.

 

[mominsaigol]

Lol imagine if this is the end of the road for Pant. So much for the gilly hype machine drama

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Nice 50 by Sai

 

[mominsaigol]

Pant's injury looked bad. I am not sure if he can bat further in this innings.

Naw he's done for this series

 

[Devadwal]

Nice 50 by Sai

Do you think pant will bat further in this match? I don't think so

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Sai is rubbish

This guy

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Do you think pant will bat further in this match? I don't think so

Think he might bat tomorrow

 

[mominsaigol]

This guy

What? He is rubbish. Slow as molasses innings. Timid approach on a flat pancake pitch.

When will India produce a player on par with Harry Brook or Jamie Smith

 

[Nikhil_cric]

What? He is rubbish. Slow as molasses innings. Timid approach on a flat pancake pitch.

When will India produce a player on par with Harry Brook or Jamie Smith

Never. We don't have the natural talent. I will take a slow 150 off 450 balls though.

 

[mominsaigol]

Never. We don't have the natural talent. I will take a slow 150 off 450 balls though.

You are blooming with talent, just not on par with Harry Brook.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You are blooming with talent, just not on par with Harry Brook.

Harry Brook will be judged in Australia

 

[Justcrazy]

England desperately need wicket here

 

[mominsaigol]

Harry Brook will be judged in Australia

My judgment counts more then anyone on this planet.

It's akin to my son having a GF and I as a parent wanting to meet and evaluate. He might think she's the right fit but she needs to pass the evaluation test that I have set up personally.

In this depiction you guys are the son and im the parent.

Harry Brooks has already passed my evaluation. You guys as children don't have any metrics or standards. Let the adult decide for today. You guys are naive children born after me.

 

[Ahmed216]

Incredibly Stokes chose to field first again

 

[mominsaigol]

Someone is already exposed the scoreboard expert in this thread as well. Now everyone knows his reality

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Incredibly Stokes chose to field first again

And it is the right decision

 

[Ahmed216]

And it is the right decision

Really? Why do you think so. Haven't watched a ball today

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Really? Why do you think so. Haven't watched a ball today

Overcast throughout . 3 out of last 4 Tests won by teams batting second .

 

[Ahmed216]

Overcast throughout . 3 out of last 4 Tests won by teams batting second .

But pitchess now in England are not the same. They are dead under the surface

 

[Nikhil_cric]

But pitchess now in England are not the same. They are dead under the surface

It's a dry surface but Stokes and most English captains will always bowl first on an overcast day.

 

[Justcrazy]

Stokes strikes , Poms get wicket after long time.

 

[Devadwal]

@Rajdeep has wimbledon ends? Asking for few posters here