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England vs Pakistan | 2nd Test | Headingley, Leeds | June 1-5, 2018 | Day 3 | Match Thread

He's not Tendulkar, but better than Sarfraz is what we're saying.

And, has clutch genes too which were on show at his peak.
I am old enough to have watched Kami in 2006 and 2010, and he bombed miserably both times.
 
Well that escalated quickly. Pathetic stuff from Sarfraz, he is becoming mediocre and feel his run is coming to an end. I feel he is too stubborn to change his ways, fresh wicket keeping batsman need to be introduced.
 
I know all the young one are decent against pace but poor against spinner. We need to do something about these pitches quickly. All of Babar ,haris and imam are good against pace but not so much against spinners.

Have to play FC games for 400+ overs on absolute belters, where batsmen will learn to bat for 6-7 even 10-12 hours and bowlers will know that there has to be something extra to get 20 wickets, length line military medium or darting won't do the job.

Indian batsmen play the weakest of bowling in FC level (See Indian bowlers/pacers in 8 team IPL, then think they have 40+ FC teams .....), but there are more double hundred scored in every round of Ranji game than entire QeA season - and that's the way you learn batting.
 
Have to play FC games for 400+ overs on absolute belters, where batsmen will learn to bat for 6-7 even 10-12 hours and bowlers will know that there has to be something extra to get 20 wickets, length line military medium or darting won't do the job.

Indian batsmen play the weakest of bowling in FC level (See Indian bowlers/pacers in 8 team IPL, then think they have 40+ FC teams .....), but there are more double hundred scored in every round of Ranji game than entire QeA season - and that's the way you learn batting.

Haroon Rashid said the pitches are fine lol.
 
Have to play FC games for 400+ overs on absolute belters, where batsmen will learn to bat for 6-7 even 10-12 hours and bowlers will know that there has to be something extra to get 20 wickets, length line military medium or darting won't do the job.

Indian batsmen play the weakest of bowling in FC level (See Indian bowlers/pacers in 8 team IPL, then think they have 40+ FC teams .....), but there are more double hundred scored in every round of Ranji game than entire QeA season - and that's the way you learn batting.

are you nuts, Indian bowling is weakest in FC level who told you that.
 
I do study history of the game - but can't recall when last time a side in an even contest (Not talking about BD, SRL, ZIM, NZ in their early days), has lost by innings after winning toss!!!!!

And, this is after winning previous game doing opposite (Bowling first).
 
Salahuddin isn't going anywhere. He has been at the crease long enough to show some intent at least.
 
Have to play FC games for 400+ overs on absolute belters, where batsmen will learn to bat for 6-7 even 10-12 hours and bowlers will know that there has to be something extra to get 20 wickets, length line military medium or darting won't do the job.

Indian batsmen play the weakest of bowling in FC level (See Indian bowlers/pacers in 8 team IPL, then think they have 40+ FC teams .....), but there are more double hundred scored in every round of Ranji game than entire QeA season - and that's the way you learn batting.

Didn't follow it much but I think the quality of fast bowling in IPL has been much better than it's ever been so I think there's some improvement on that front?
 
These two will get a 100 run partnership and after that score quickly, England to Bat again and chase 120 ..
 
Said so before the match that England will win the match. Pak is always terrible when it comes to deciding matches. In the first match we were some what lucky with England getting low scores that made our batting look better then it is. Now we are seeing again how poor is batting is again. None of our batsmen have the ability to remain at the crease for any period of time. There seems to be no alternative for failed batsmen like Imam and Azhar Ali. No doubt had there been another test we would have lost the series. Overall-1-1 flatters us for sure!
 
You are doing injustice to him - first he batted at 62 SR, not 42 (first innings it was 100+), so the killer instinct was there.

Key point in both innings you have missed the key point - those were double swing ball. It first moved away in air, then came back off the seem - hence for our dumb eyes, it looked like PAK Captain is castled by absolute cannon fodder straight one in both innings - that too with 30 overs old ball. But, in reality, those were unplayable balls, Sarfraz is unlucky to miss couple of jaffars.

Well said. Such an inspirational leader.
 
Wasim: "this young Pakistani side"

The back bone of our batting, Azhar, Asad and Sarfaraz are by no means young!
 
You can’t learn to bat in the nets. You have to spend hours at the crease, which doesn’t happen in QeA Trophy.
 
Does the umpire have no trust in his eyesight?
 
Usman has shown good temperament but even after 77 deliveries he isn't imposing himself at all on England. He just seems happy to bat without scoring.
 
salahuddin playing well but he needs to find gaps.. this match is done and dusted but sallu should at least get a fifty here
 
Have to play FC games for 400+ overs on absolute belters, where batsmen will learn to bat for 6-7 even 10-12 hours and bowlers will know that there has to be something extra to get 20 wickets, length line military medium or darting won't do the job.

Indian batsmen play the weakest of bowling in FC level (See Indian bowlers/pacers in 8 team IPL, then think they have 40+ FC teams .....), but there are more double hundred scored in every round of Ranji game than entire QeA season - and that's the way you learn batting.

Should we be seeing excellent one day batsmen emerge from Pakistan in the future then judging by Pakistan cup ? :)
 
QEA doesn't prepare our batsmen for test cricket. We need to change the pitches.
 
Wasim and Holding are spot on. Longest form is what teaches you your core skills.
 
Can't beat the field at the moment.

Pressure building, inns not going anywhere.
 
Should we be seeing excellent one day batsmen emerge from Pakistan in the future then judging by Pakistan cup ? :)

NO. PAK CUP was played even worse wicket - dead slow & low, with no pace & bounce, and getting slower & lower. You are judging those wickets from score card, when top 10-12 bowlers were absent (& they picked half of the squad on whose who), on a dead track, with smalish boundary and rock hard out field. Had those games been played in Day (without dew in night), teams batting 1st would have started with a 100+ handicap.
 
Sarfraz, Azhar, and Shafiq suppose to lead from the front but lately they all have been a burden on the team while youngsters are forced to carry the team.
 
The fear of chasing was too much to overcome - hence PAK opted to bat first. I hope Mickey gives a proper explanation of the toss.
 
Thankfully it’s a two Test series only.

That's what the likes of Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq and Sarfaraz Ahmed are thinking.

I wish it was longer so that there was no place for seniors to hide.
 
Faheem's was a real "search engine" shot, absolutely terrible. You can attack but have to keep percentages on your side.
 
salahuddin will be a perfect number 6 in Uae conditions.. technique is good..

Not sure batting at no 6 is good for a batsman's overall career. Asad Shafiq has batted at no 6 all his life and looks like a tailender up the order and always vulnerable against the new swinging ball.
 
Pak batting line is not up to test level standard. I genuinely don't see much difference to the make of the pak batters and Bangladeshi batters. Small, look attractive for 30-40 runs but lack the mental edge to cut it out international level
 
Pak batting line is not up to test level standard. I genuinely don't see much difference to the make of the pak batters and Bangladeshi batters. Small, look attractive for 30-40 runs but lack the mental edge to cut it out international level

Only after one match... :)))
 
It's all good to be a keyboard warrior and tell Usman what to do.

Try to be in his place, he has got a chance after waiting for so long. He will be out once Babar comes back, so he is doing his best to score runs.
 
I hope they persist with Usman, he along with Shadab have impressed me in this match.
 
Pak batting line is not up to test level standard. I genuinely don't see much difference to the make of the pak batters and Bangladeshi batters. Small, look attractive for 30-40 runs but lack the mental edge to cut it out international level

Mushfiq is comfortably better than any Pakistan batsman.
 
Pak batting line is not up to test level standard. I genuinely don't see much difference to the make of the pak batters and Bangladeshi batters. Small, look attractive for 30-40 runs but lack the mental edge to cut it out international level

Last time, BD batsmen batted for 110 overs on last day, against Herath & Perera to save a Test - I'll give same wicket at 1st day (that's absolute fresh, without any wear & tear) & 7 chances for this PAK line-up to save a Test .......

Our boys hardly plays anything short and faster than 130K, hence they struggle against raw pace or lifters from short of length; but on good wickets, our Test batting is decent actually.
 
Worrying to see no fight from Pakistan. Just fallen apart.
 
there was no need for that at all. He should have been thinking I need to stay not out to confirm my place in the next game. No way we were winning this, he should have just kept on sticking around. Low percentage cricket.
 
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