[EXCLUSIVE] "You never know, I can take my retirement back": Imad Wasim

[PakEngFan]

Here we go again. Back to Imad bashing as you've been doing on a daily basis during each PSL.

What have I said which is wrong? He's performed and if he takes back his retirement he deserves his spot.

 

[Mamoon]

Shocking stuff by Multan, they were nothing deliveries really. It was an illustration of utter self-destruction by Multan.

 

[happydavy]

Did he really smoke? Impressing me more and more

Probably Rana Faheem was with him

He inhaled from a lit cigarette and he puffed out smoke, clear as daylight. Only question is that was it cigarette because it looked like a well rolled joint to me

 

[PakEngFan]

Shocking stuff by Multan, they were nothing deliveries really. It was an illustration of utter self-destruction by Multan.

The one to Jordan was an excellent delivery. The rest were batsmens just going after him as they saw him as a weak link.

 

[daytrader]

He inhaled from a lit cigarette and he puffed out smoke, clear as daylight. Only question is that was it cigarette because it looked like a well rolled joint to me

The way he's holding it and the ash hanging on.... maybe more than a cig

 

[happydavy]

Shocking stuff by Multan, they were nothing deliveries really. It was an illustration of utter self-destruction by Multan.

Still I think this score is defendable.

 

[Rana]

@Mamoon

Sorry bro, I was hoping for a good day for you.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Shocking stuff by Multan, they were nothing deliveries really. It was an illustration of utter self-destruction by Multan.

Keep crying. What imad did today is something Babar will never do even if you give him a thousand chances

 

[PakEngFan]

Keep crying. What imad did today is something Babar will never do even if you give him a thousand chances

Babar won your team a Psl. Have some respect. Without him your region hasn't won it.

 

[Rana]

Keep crying. What imad did today is something Babar will never do even if you give him a thousand chances

Well, yeah I mean Babar doesn’t bowl so he won’t take a 5fer in a final but in terms of batting you are right. Babar may never score an innings that stands out in impact with the bat in a big final

 

[Desprado123]

Ignoring the various issues regarding availability, retirement etc.

If we look at the strongest XI for Pakistan in T20Is - Imad over Nawaz, every day of the week.

Imo, Babar should face Criminal proceeding for purposely botching, underdeveloping Pakistan team by selecting like of M. Harris, Nawaz, Usama Mir, etc. There is no other way recover from what Babar Azam did to Pakistan in just these 4 years.

 

[Mamoon]

Keep crying. What imad did today is something Babar will never do even if you give him a thousand chances

Babar's century vs NZ in the 2019 WC is bigger than Imad's entire career.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Imo, Babar should face Criminal proceeding for purposely botching, underdeveloping Pakistan team by selecting like of M. Harris, Nawaz, Usama Mir, etc. There is no other way recover from what Babar Azam did to Pakistan in just these 4 years.

Same with Rizwan and his conflict of interest with regards to Saya and Yazoo international

 

[Mamoon]

The one to Jordan was an excellent delivery. The rest were batsmens just going after him as they saw him as a weak link.

He is a weak-link and and always will be.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Babar's century vs NZ in the 2019 WC is bigger than Imad's entire career.

Babar’s century meant nothing, we were knocked out of the group stage

Imad has single handedly won his team the tournament

 

[Mamoon]

Babar’s century meant nothing, we were knocked out of the group stage

Imad has single handedly won his team the tournament

Just like Babar won him in the PSL in 2020?

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Just like Babar won him in the PSL in 2020?

Karachi were chasing 137. The game was set by their bowlers

Imad single-handedly destroyed Multans batting. The game before he anchored when his team were 90/5. Their is a clear difference and you know it

 

[Mamoon]

Karachi were chasing 137. The game was set by their bowlers

Imad single-handedly destroyed Multans batting. The game before he anchored when his team were 90/5. Their is a clear difference and you know it

Babar single-handedly won them the PSL. He was the top scorer, the man of the match in the final and also the player of the tournament. No other Karachi player featured in the top run getters and wicket takers list.

Even in the final, Babar played a lone head and scored an unbeaten half-century while every other batsman choked. Babar scored 63* while their second highest scorer scored 22 at a SR of 81.

Babar was the only reason Karachi won the PSL in 2020. Imad had no problem with Babar's batting approach when he won him the PSL with the same approach. Imad is a hypocrite, nothing else.

I can't believe I have to argue and state the obvious that Babar is a far, far better cricketer than Imad can ever hope to be. It is like arguing with someone who believes that the earth is flat.

The delusions of Imad cult is hilarious. They are living in a world of their own.

 

[topspin]

What have I said which is wrong? He's performed and if he takes back his retirement he deserves his spot.

Credit where due - for being sincere and honest about him. You got my respect.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I know Player of the Tournament usually goes to the best batter or bowler but it should go to Imad Wasim for delivering in the most important high-pressure matches and playing a leading role in Islamabad United's title victory. And to come back from being completely out of form made it even more incredible.

 

[shaz619]

We should start a Chris Jericho esque millennium countdown clock for the eventual return off the prodigal son

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

We should start a Chris Jericho esque millennium countdown clock for the eventual return off the prodigal son

He deserves to play for Pakistan again though. On the back of these performances

 

[Mamoon]

Babar Azam was the best player of the tournament by a mile. Best batsman and best captain.

 

[Caved12]

Islamabad won this championship only because of Imad. Some posters here must apologize and admit that they know nothing about cricket.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Babar Azam was the best player of the tournament by a mile. Best batsman and best captain.

Best captain couldn’t even get his team into the final despite having the most destructive opener, best keeper, best finisher and a damn good spin bowling line up

 

[Mamoon]

Best captain couldn’t even get his team into the final despite having the most destructive opener, best keeper, best finisher and a damn good spin bowling line up

Zalmi had the weakest bowling unit and he had them punch above their weight. No one knew anything about Saim's bowling and Babar turned him into the surprise factor of the tournament who took the highest number of wickets in PP overs.

A rubbish captain like Imad would have finished dead last with this Zalmi team.

 

[Major]

Should take his retirement back!

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Babar Azam was the best player of the tournament by a mile. Best batsman and best captain.

Babar is a top class player no question but he is definitely not a good captain.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Zalmi had the weakest bowling unit and he had them punch above their weight. No one knew anything about Saim's bowling and Babar turned him into the surprise factor of the tournament who took the highest number of wickets in PP overs.

A rubbish captain like Imad would have finished dead last with this Zalmi team.

Bro just get over yourself and admit you were wrong about Imad. He literally delivered with bat and ball in the most important matches for Islamabad this season.

It happens. We can all be wrong. Remember I once said Root can't tie Williamson's shoelaces. But not acknowledging something as obvious as Imad's performances just makes everyone here not take you seriously.

 

[Rana]

Imad talked big and humiliated Rizwan in 2020

Imad talked big and humiliated both Babar and Rizwan in 2024

4 years, 2 massive humiliations to the Saya Corporation duo

 

[Mohraheem]

Take your retirement and we need you to replace fraudulent Chacha who thinks he is a finisher

 

[Mohraheem]

Ignoring the various issues regarding availability, retirement etc.

If we look at the strongest XI for Pakistan in T20Is - Imad over Nawaz, every day of the week.

And Chacha

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Take your retirement and we need you to replace fraudulent Chacha who thinks he is a finisher

Chacha had a great tournament. I don't know why you are bringing him up or what he has to do to with Imad.

 

[Mohraheem]

Chacha had a great tournament. I don't know why you are bringing him up or what he has to do to with Imad.

That 6 by Naseem was a great shot vs his fluke tournament

 

[Major]

he won Islamabad all the play off games. Deserves praise and deserves to be in the Pakistan team

 

[pakistani pride]

Imad has had his moment, he should enjoy and not make the mistake to come back and play International cricket. He is overweight and clearly not in shape for International cricket.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

That 6 by Nadeem was a great shot vs his fluke tournament

259 runs @ 64.8 and a SR of 193 is hardly a fluke.

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1769819726861988343

Take that Zimbabar fans

 

[topspin]

@Mamoon

This must feel like a dagger in the heart. You've had a lot to say about his bowling average and now he's just you given you a big slap in the face after taking a 5fer in a final.

You should never have disrespected him because this was always going to backfire on you. You should have listened to me when I told you he's criminally underrated. Let this be a lesson to appreciate him whilst he's still playing.

Major and PakEngFan have now finally acknowledged that Imad should take his retirement back. It's time for you to stomach this and acknowledge that you got this horribly wrong. I remember you used to be an advocate for Imad, so to turn against him was a big mistake because it's left you looking foolish.

 

[160KPH]

He had a great end to the tournament, despite a very bad beginning.

I still do not really understand all of his decision making. He did not have that great of a 2021 WC and then he also performed bad in the following PSL so he was dropped and other players got an opportunity. Then he started doing TV commentary, including about some of his teammates who are active players. After his good PSL run in 2023 he was back into the team but then out of nowhere he retired shortly after. Hafeez even called him personally to sign a central contract and to take back his retirement but he chose to play league cricket.

Nothing wrong with that though, if he wants to just make money in leagues then good for him. The one thing I did not like was him commenting on his peers on television shows before he retired, considering he may very well play with them again.

That being said, he’s a decent utility player, but it’s not like we are missing our Gary Sobers due to his retirement. His batting stats are worse than Nawaz, although his bowling is pretty economical. He also chose T10 cricket leagues and TV commentary over playing in the Pakistan Cup so it’s pretty clear where his priorities are at this phase of his career.

 

[Mamoon]

@Mamoon

This must feel like a dagger in the heart. You've had a lot to say about his bowling average and now he's just you given you a big slap in the face after taking a 5fer in a final.

You should never have disrespected him because this was always going to backfire on you. You should have listened to me when I told you he's criminally underrated. Let this be a lesson to appreciate him whilst he's still playing.

Major and PakEngFan have now finally acknowledged that Imad should take his retirement back. It's time for you to stomach this and acknowledge that you got this horribly wrong. I remember you used to be an advocate for Imad, so to turn against him was a big mistake because it's left you looking foolish.

What does today’s spell have anything to do with the fact that Imad averages 65 with the ball vs the top 5 teams in ODIs?

Come back to me if Imad revokes his retirement, manages to get picked for ODIs and performs with the ball vs India, Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa.

Until then, I won’t take feedback from Shan Masood and Sharjeel Khan fans.

If Imad takes or doesn’t take his retirement back it is his decision, but he absolutely should not be reselected in the national time because he offers nothing to Pakistan.

 

[160KPH]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1769819726861988343

Take that Zimbabar fans

I don’t think Babar ever even said anything about Imad or Amir. It’s only those two who go on TV to gossip about Babar.

Also Babar is the biggest super star Pakistan has had in year. Why would he care what two retired players - one who is known primarily for match fixing - are saying about him on gossip shows?

 

[hassan918]

Michael Clarke opinion on Imad Wasim not in the Pakistan side.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1769823886575558801

 

[topspin]

What does today’s spell have anything to do with the fact that Imad averages 65 with the ball vs the top 5 teams in ODIs?

Come back to me if Imad revokes his retirement, manages to get picked for ODIs and performs with the ball vs India, Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa.

Until then, I won’t take feedback from Shan Masood and Sharjeel Khan fans.

I'm giving you a chance to redeem yourself but instead you choose to dig a hole for yourself.

I'm not a Shan Masood fan and nor am I a fan of Sharjeel Khan.

If Imad takes or doesn’t take his retirement back it is his decision, but he absolutely should not be reselected in the national time because he offers nothing to Pakistan.

“If Imad is not playing for Pakistan, there is something seriously wrong” Michael Clarke after the game.

 

[160KPH]

I'm giving you a chance to redeem yourself but instead you choose to dig a hole for yourself.

I'm not a Shan Masood fan and nor am I a fan of Sharjeel Khan.





“If Imad is not playing for Pakistan, there is something seriously wrong” Michael Clarke after the game.

Michael Clarke probably doesn’t know that it was Imad Wasim’s own decision to not play for Pakistan.

 

[Mamoon]

Bro just get over yourself and admit you were wrong about Imad. He literally delivered with bat and ball in the most important matches for Islamabad this season.

It happens. We can all be wrong. Remember I once said Root can't tie Williamson's shoelaces. But not acknowledging something as obvious as Imad's performances just makes everyone here not take you seriously.

I have no problem with people praising him for his performance in the last three games after he slept through the entire tournament and wouldn’t have been in a position to influence the knockout games if his teammates were carrying his corpse.

But I will absolutely not tolerate propagandist narratives like he is a great captain (he is not), Pakistan badly needs him (they don’t), his criticism of Babar’s batting approach in T20s was genuine (it was not) and that he is as valuable a cricketer as Babar (he is not).

 

[Mohraheem]

259 runs @ 64.8 and a SR of 193 is hardly a fluke.

259 runs @ 64.8 and a SR of 193 is hardly a fluke.

He didn’t even get an award! lol what performance Usama mir was better Than him! We don’t even need him in international after his Performance in New Zealand

 

[Mamoon]

I'm giving you a chance to redeem yourself but instead you choose to dig a hole for yourself.

I'm not a Shan Masood fan and nor am I a fan of Sharjeel Khan.

You are. You have supported Masood as captain and you have always wanted Sharjeel to return to the team before he let you down with his pathetic performances post comeback.

“If Imad is not playing for Pakistan, there is something seriously wrong” Michael Clarke after the game.

Michael Clarke can offer his services to PCB as a coach if he cares that much.

 

[Saj]

No doubt he performed when it mattered the most in PSL9 after a very shaky start to the tournament.

Grew in confidence and showed his experience at key moments for his team.

 

[topspin]

You are. You have supported Masood as captain and you have always wanted Sharjeel to return to the team before he let you down with his pathetic performances post comeback.

Michael Clarke can offer his services to PCB as a coach if he cares that much.

Just because I rate Masood's captaincy in red ball cricket it doesn't make me a Masood fan when I don't even rate him as a batsman. I've said this on numerous occasions, I see him as a specialist captain for Pakistan because he's not good enough to make the team as a standalone batsman. He should never be picked to play in the PSL ever again after his miserable showing with the bat during this tournament.

I did rate Sharjeel's batting performances prior to his ban and yes I was a fan of his in the past. One of the reasons being, he had an outstanding series against Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins in Australia, where he averaged 50 and scored his runs at a strike rate of 115 after 5 games. The only player who managed to achieve a better strike rate was Maxwell.

But I've always maintained, just like I have with Amir, Imad and him, that they must all prove form and fitness if they want to represent Pakistan. Anyway, he's not good enough to make the starting XI of any PSL franchise, so we can safely say he's now irrelevant.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

In a post-match ceremony after winning the final of PSL 9, Imad Wasim said:

"I wasn't expecting it to become the best-ever tournament for me because my only expectation was that the team must win and at the end it turned out this way, so I am very thankful."

"In batting I have already performed well before but this time in the final taking 5 wickets and staying on the wicket was a new experience for me. I learned here that we should have finished the game an over earlier but luckily Hunain got a boundary and we won. I am feeling blessed."

"I am happy playing cricket and I am also fit, I am trying to contribute as much as I can for the team and I see myself playing cricket for another 4 to 5 years."

 

[shamaan]

Imad has been absolutely traffic in the Semi Final and Final he deserves to be in the world cup squad.

He should also be banned for a few games and fined for smoking.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Imad has been absolutely traffic in the Semi Final and Final he deserves to be in the world cup squad.

He should also be banned for a few games and fined for smoking.

Shane warne also used to smoke but the difference is Imad is a retired player and therefore the PCB has no jurisdiction.

 

[gazza619]

He should also be banned for a few games and fined for smoking.

None issue. Nobody cares if he is smoking

I rather have a guy smoking and doing a performance then a good for nothing obedient soul

 

[Major]

One thing he did prove and which matters alot is he has the mental ability to be able to absorb the pressure.
You do it once, its a fluke, do it twice, maybe that was luck.

But he did it 4 times on the trot. The best finish wasnt the one in the final even, it was the one in previous game where that allowed us to qaulify for the final. He kept his nerve and batted it out.

In interanational he did this against Afghanistan in the world cup. After doing this 4 times and 3 times in the play offs, he deserves a spot if he takes his retirement back.

However, he needs to learn not to be toxic. His statements against Babar were pretty poor and i hope he learns from making such statements in future.

In Pakistan we dont have that many players that can hold there nerves, but when a guy does it 4 times in a must win game, there must be soemthing special in him.

Also people bashing Iftikhar, Iftikhar was the reason why Multan had a defending score. I think having Imad and Iftikhar at lower order can work well.

But if Imad joins, than we need an attacking spinnner like Abrar in.

 

[Mamoon]

Just because I rate Masood's captaincy in red ball cricket it doesn't make me a Masood fan when I don't even rate him as a batsman. I've said this on numerous occasions, I see him as a specialist captain for Pakistan because he's not good enough to make the team as a standalone batsman. He should never be picked to play in the PSL ever again after his miserable showing with the bat during this tournament.

I did rate Sharjeel's batting performances prior to his ban and yes I was a fan of his in the past. One of the reasons being, he had an outstanding series against Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins in Australia, where he averaged 50 and scored his runs at a strike rate of 115 after 5 games. The only player who managed to achieve a better strike rate was Maxwell.

But I've always maintained, just like I have with Amir, Imad and him, that they must all prove form and fitness if they want to represent Pakistan. Anyway, he's not good enough to make the starting XI of any PSL franchise, so we can safely say he's now irrelevant.

This Masood captaincy narrative will also end in failure just like the “he has improved as a batsman” narrative ended in failure.

His captaincy and his batting are equally rubbish. Everything about Masood reflects mediocrity - his body language, his facial expressions, his physique. He never was and never will be international material in any capacity and he has zero leadership qualities. He has zero charisma and personality.

It is a complete joke that a pathetic batsman like him is captain. He needs to be kicked out and never picked again.

As far as Sharjeel is concerned, he was a rubbish player who was never good enough for international cricket.

His fans rave about his performance in Australia but what did he even do? He won zero games for Pakistan and scored three meaningless half- centuries on highways where Warner was scoring 150s.

He showed poor temperament and throw his wicket away every single time. He failed in the only match that Pakistan won.

Sharjeel averaged 27 in 24 ODIs vs Australia, India, England, Sri Lanka, West Indies and Afghanistan with 0 hundreds.

On top of that, his fitness was a joke. He was a liability from day 1 and the ban did his reputation a lot of good because it created the illusion that Pakistan lost some hotshot opener.

If he wasn’t banned, he would have been history by 2018-19 anyway. He had zero temperament and ability to survive good balls and on top of that, he was a liability in the field.

 

[Slim]

Imad needs to be brought back just for his sheer mentality alone. He has a winner's mentality and i have always backed his selection. Nawaz is nothing in front of him.

 

[topspin]

One thing he did prove and which matters alot is he has the mental ability to be able to absorb the pressure.
You do it once, its a fluke, do it twice, maybe that was luck.

But he did it 4 times on the trot. The best finish wasnt the one in the final even, it was the one in previous game where that allowed us to qaulify for the final. He kept his nerve and batted it out.

In interanational he did this against Afghanistan in the world cup. After doing this 4 times and 3 times in the play offs, he deserves a spot if he takes his retirement back.

However, he needs to learn not to be toxic. His statements against Babar were pretty poor and i hope he learns from making such statements in future.

In Pakistan we dont have that many players that can hold there nerves, but when a guy does it 4 times in a must win game, there must be soemthing special in him.

Also people bashing Iftikhar, Iftikhar was the reason why Multan had a defending score. I think having Imad and Iftikhar at lower order can work well.

But if Imad joins, than we need an attacking spinnner like Abrar in.

This is a great balanced post bro and you make an excellent point about Pakistan not possessing many players who are capable of holding their nerves. The truth is there are only two Pakistani cricketers who have elite mentality and one of them is Imad Wasim.

 

[topspin]

I used to get bashed left, right and centre for defending Imad. I've maintained for the last few years, that whilst this guy might be average/slightly above average in his skills, what makes him standout is his elite mentality and ability to play selflessly for the greater good of his team. He has the self-belief to outperform anyone that's in front of him. He's a fine example of a cricketers who's punched above his weight thanks to his mental courage and toughness.

I'm glad to see a number of posters who were big critics of his finally see the light and embrace him.

It's such a shame to see him excluded in Pakistan's white ball teams because of how Babar mistreated him. But at least, we can now all agree that he's Pakistan's no.1 T20 all-rounder and a must pick for the 2024 WT20.

 

[Rana]

I used to get bashed left, right and centre for defending Imad. I've maintained for the last few years, that whilst this guy might be average/slightly above average in his skills, what makes him standout is his elite mentality and ability to play selflessly for the greater good of his team.

I'm glad to see a number of posters who were big critics of his finally see the light and embrace him.

It's such a shame to see him excluded in Pakistan's white ball teams because of how Babar mistreated him. But at least, we can all agree that he's Pakistan's no.1 T20 all-rounder and a must pick for the 2024 WT20.

Babar can always deflect it by saying “I didn’t select the teams, it was the selectors”.

Whether he is honest or not, the point Amir I guess (who has been loyal to Imad throughout) was trying to make is that Babar should have fought for the right players he needed. He didn’t fight for Imad…never did. Why? Because Babar didn’t rate him? Because Babar didn’t like his personality?

This example is at a much higher level and stature of the players that we are talking about in Pakistan, but Steve Waugh and Shane Warne hated each other’s guts. You recon Waugh wouldn’t fight tooth and nail with the Australian selectors for Warne if they thought his performances were not good enough? Of course he would. That is the elite mentality you refer to. On the cricket field, there are no brothers/friends. They are team members with the same United goal. Babar picked friends first, and then made it their goal as a group to be United.

 

[mominsaigol]

Babar's century vs NZ in the 2019 WC is bigger than Imad's entire career.

You sound so defeated right now and so upset that I really feel bad for you lol, this is just pathetic and desperate from you atm.

 

[mominsaigol]

This psl literally proved how trash rizwan and Babar are as t20 openers, how dangerously deluded the rizzu and Babar cult is, and how imad was in the form of his life from 2023 onwards but everyone kept going back to 2021 and highlighting nawaz 2022 outlier moments.

Major L to the cult.

 

[mominsaigol]

I used to get bashed left, right and centre for defending Imad. I've maintained for the last few years, that whilst this guy might be average/slightly above average in his skills, what makes him standout is his elite mentality and ability to play selflessly for the greater good of his team. He has the self-belief to outperform anyone that's in front of him. He's a fine example of a cricketers who's punched above his weight thanks to his mental courage and toughness.

I'm glad to see a number of posters who were big critics of his finally see the light and embrace him.

It's such a shame to see him excluded in Pakistan's white ball teams because of how Babar mistreated him. But at least, we can now all agree that he's Pakistan's no.1 T20 all-rounder and a must pick for the 2024 WT20.

You're story is the same as imad, getting bashed by an inept crowd only for the crowd to get Smoked,

90% of em got humbled while the 10% are still saying

" But in 2021, Babar and nawaz innings are better then imad career , I will find a way to destroy Imad, Muhahahah."

 

[Major]

I used to get bashed left, right and centre for defending Imad. I've maintained for the last few years, that whilst this guy might be average/slightly above average in his skills, what makes him standout is his elite mentality and ability to play selflessly for the greater good of his team. He has the self-belief to outperform anyone that's in front of him. He's a fine example of a cricketers who's punched above his weight thanks to his mental courage and toughness.

I'm glad to see a number of posters who were big critics of his finally see the light and embrace him.

It's such a shame to see him excluded in Pakistan's white ball teams because of how Babar mistreated him. But at least, we can now all agree that he's Pakistan's no.1 T20 all-rounder and a must pick for the 2024 WT20.

Bro, its not about blind criticism. If a player is going to not perform than he should be dropped and can only comeback if they perform well in domestic cricket.

He wasnt mistreated, his performance went down and his competitor at the time was Nawaz who was doing well with ball but than his performance also went down. Imad deserves his fair share of criticism especially when he ignored Pakistan domestic cricket.

If he comes into the team and fails he will still be criticsized. If he plans to make a a comeback it needs to be good enough.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Man of the Match in the Eliminator #1
Man of the Match in the Eliminator #2
Man of the Match in the Final

Doesn't get any more clutch than that. We need someone like him at the World Cup. Someone who knows how to handle pressure and can rise to the occasion.

 

[mominsaigol]

@Mamoon

This must feel like a dagger in the heart. You've had a lot to say about his bowling average and now he's just you given you a big slap in the face after taking a 5fer in a final.

You should never have disrespected him because this was always going to backfire on you. You should have listened to me when I told you he's criminally underrated. Let this be a lesson to appreciate him whilst he's still playing.

Major and PakEngFan have now finally acknowledged that Imad should take his retirement back. It's time for you to stomach this and acknowledge that you got this horribly wrong. I remember you used to be an advocate for Imad, so to turn against him was a big mistake because it's left you looking foolish.

Naw he's still plotting revenge, he'll spam his clown emojis eventually .

 

[topspin]

Babar can always deflect it by saying “I didn’t select the teams, it was the selectors”.

Whether he is honest or not, the point Amir I guess (who has been loyal to Imad throughout) was trying to make is that Babar should have fought for the right players he needed. He didn’t fight for Imad…never did. Why? Because Babar didn’t rate him? Because Babar didn’t like his personality?

At the end of the day, Babar had the authority to pick his own team and overrule decisions. He went out of his way to ensure Nawaz would play over Imad. That is just unforgivable. It's no different to Gareth Southgate picking Jordan Henderson for the England team.

This example is at a much higher level and stature of the players that we are talking about in Pakistan, but Steve Waugh and Shane Warne hated each other’s guts. You recon Waugh wouldn’t fight tooth and nail with the Australian selectors for Warne if they thought his performances were not good enough? Of course he would. That is the elite mentality you refer to. On the cricket field, there are no brothers/friends. They are team members with the same United goal. Babar picked friends first, and then made it their goal as a group to be United.

An excellent case in point. Another example, also from Australian cricket, is Michael Clarke who referred to Shane Watson as a "tumour".

What I admire about the Aussies is they don't care about their personal differences when they were playing together. They're just built different. Relatively speaking, Pakistani players are massive snowflakes.

You look at Imran Khan and Javed Miandad. They hated each other but still used to consult with one other when it came to devising strategies on how they would dismiss a batsman.

Fast forward 40 years and now Pakistan cricket is adopting Misbah's school of thought. How tragic.

 

[mominsaigol]

Man of the Match in the Eliminator #1
Man of the Match in the Eliminator #2
Man of the Match in the Final

Doesn't get any more clutch than that. We need someone like him at the World Cup. Someone who knows how to handle pressure and can rise to the occasion.

Brother one thing I have learnt over the past few years is that rizzu and Babar cults have extreme short term memory.

In a few days they'll once again forget that this psl ever happened while still saying nonsense like

Imad averages 65, Babar achieved 10 wickets over India, imad made Babar cry on social media. Name one game where inad won for his team? Nawaz is the goat scoring 42 of 22 3 years ago. Trust me they'll say this again and again.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

One thing he did prove and which matters alot is he has the mental ability to be able to absorb the pressure.
You do it once, its a fluke, do it twice, maybe that was luck.

But he did it 4 times on the trot. The best finish wasnt the one in the final even, it was the one in previous game where that allowed us to qaulify for the final. He kept his nerve and batted it out.

In interanational he did this against Afghanistan in the world cup. After doing this 4 times and 3 times in the play offs, he deserves a spot if he takes his retirement back.

However, he needs to learn not to be toxic. His statements against Babar were pretty poor and i hope he learns from making such statements in future.

In Pakistan we dont have that many players that can hold there nerves, but when a guy does it 4 times in a must win game, there must be soemthing special in him.

Also people bashing Iftikhar, Iftikhar was the reason why Multan had a defending score. I think having Imad and Iftikhar at lower order can work well.

But if Imad joins, than we need an attacking spinnner like Abrar in.

His comments about Babar were highly unprofessional and out of line, especially because he was a centrally contracted player. But at the same time I think its time to move on. At the end of the day they were just stupid comments made by someone who was probably frustrated at the time. Imad's performances on the field should have nothing to do with what his opinion on Babar or anyone else is.

 

[mominsaigol]

At the end of the day, Babar had the authority to pick his own team and overrule decisions. He went out of his way to ensure Nawaz would play over Imad. That is just unforgivable. It's no different to Gareth Southgate picking Jordan Henderson for the England team.



An excellent case in point. Another example, also from Australian cricket, is Michael Clarke who referred to Shane Watson as a "tumour".

What I admire about the Aussies is they don't care about their personal differences when they were playing together. They're just built different. Relatively speaking, Pakistani players are massive snowflakes.

You look at Imran Khan and Javed Miandad. They hated each other but still used to consult with one other when it came to devising strategies on how they would dismiss a batsman.

Fast forward 40 years and now Pakistan cricket is adopting Misbah's school of thought. How tragic.

Babar: Nawaz and Shadab are my best bowlers.

Nawaz and shadab: Ayt mate let's make Joe root our bowling competition.

 

[Major]

This psl literally proved how trash rizwan and Babar are as t20 openers, how dangerously deluded the rizzu and Babar cult is, and how imad was in the form of his life from 2023 onwards but everyone kept going back to 2021 and highlighting nawaz 2022 outlier moments.

Major L to the cult.

i dont defend or criticise players blindly.
I was a critic of Azam but he did well, i praised Isb for getting him.
I was a fan of shadab, but even i know he cant bowl 6 deliveries at the same spot and is not a very good captain. If Iftikhar does badly in 5-6 games i start asking for him to be dropped. I used to support Asif Ali, but i dont want to see his name near the team.

Imad's international performance did fell which is why he lost his spot. If we go to 2021, Nawaz was doing very well and had the upper edge because of slight turn on the ball, but nawaz lost never recovered after what Kohli did to him..

Even now, if Imad is to make a return in the national team, main focus will be on his batting now, because we need a batter at the lower end that can absorb the pressure and guide the ship to the shore. He wont survive and will be dropped if he only bowls economical spells and is the bowler with the lowest economy rate. His batting will now play a big effect on how many matches he will get in future in international.

 

[Major]

His comments about Babar were highly unprofessional and out of line, especially because he was a centrally contracted player. But at the same time I think its time to move on. Long time has passed. At the end of the day they were just stupid comments made by someone who was probably frustrated at the time. Imad's performances on the field should have nothing to do with what his opinion on Babar or anyone else is.

The comments did not stop though, it continued even when the team was playing the world cup and he was sitting on tv.

Doesnt matter if you are frusturated or not, when the national teams captain is leading the side in the world cup, you need to back him. Fans in Rawalpindi just went after him.

Imad did not lose his fan following due to his bad performance, he lost his fan following due to his comments. There was a time when Imad started to have a big fan following and was almost made the captain of the national team. His comments and plus being seen sitting with Amir and making comments against Babar made him look really really bad.

 

[topspin]

You're story is the same as imad, getting bashed by an inept crowd only for the crowd to get Smoked,

90% of em got humbled while the 10% are still saying

" But in 2021, Babar and nawaz innings are better then imad career , I will find a way to destroy Imad, Muhahahah."

Speaking of smoked, that's exactly what Imad has done in recent days out in the middle and also in the dressing room

 

[topspin]

i dont defend or criticise players blindly.
I was a critic of Azam but he did well, i praised Isb for getting him.
I was a fan of shadab, but even i know he cant bowl 6 deliveries at the same spot and is not a very good captain. If Iftikhar does badly in 5-6 games i start asking for him to be dropped. I used to support Asif Ali, but i dont want to see his name near the team.

Imad's international performance did fell which is why he lost his spot. If we go to 2021, Nawaz was doing very well and had the upper edge because of slight turn on the ball, but nawaz lost never recovered after what Kohli did to him..

Even now, if Imad is to make a return in the national team, main focus will be on his batting now, because we need a batter at the lower end that can absorb the pressure and guide the ship to the shore. He wont survive and will be dropped if he only bowls economical spells and is the bowler with the lowest economy rate. His batting will now play a big effect on how many matches he will get in future in international.

When you look at Imad, does the word badmaash come to mind?

 

[mominsaigol]

His comments about Babar were highly unprofessional and out of line, especially because he was a centrally contracted player. But at the same time I think its time to move on. At the end of the day they were just stupid comments made by someone who was probably frustrated at the time. Imad's performances on the field should have nothing to do with what his opinion on Babar or anyone else is.

I disagree, Babar isn't untouchable, fans get mad the moment any player says a single word about Babar.

Fakhar got mistreated for years and made statements that simply weren't true even acknowledging that Abdullah, Imam, rizwan and Babar should be frontline openers over him since saya Duo wanted fakhar gone.

Fakhar was too afraid to speak up but imad isn't. He has every right to bash Babar and people need to realise that Babar is not a god who cannot be questioned. If Babar doesn't want any criticism then he needs to learn from rohit and kohli, those 2 do not care and let their bat do the talking.

Nor do they try to get the crowd involved and hide behind the cult following, if anything they keep super quiet on the media to the point that that fans aren't even aware of any so called drama like the sanju sampson drama in wc 2023.

 

[mominsaigol]

i dont defend or criticise players blindly.
I was a critic of Azam but he did well, i praised Isb for getting him.
I was a fan of shadab, but even i know he cant bowl 6 deliveries at the same spot and is not a very good captain. If Iftikhar does badly in 5-6 games i start asking for him to be dropped. I used to support Asif Ali, but i dont want to see his name near the team.

Imad's international performance did fell which is why he lost his spot. If we go to 2021, Nawaz was doing very well and had the upper edge because of slight turn on the ball, but nawaz lost never recovered after what Kohli did to him..

Even now, if Imad is to make a return in the national team, main focus will be on his batting now, because we need a batter at the lower end that can absorb the pressure and guide the ship to the shore. He wont survive and will be dropped if he only bowls economical spells and is the bowler with the lowest economy rate. His batting will now play a big effect on how many matches he will get in future in international.

You're not a part of the cult and I didn't refer you as part of one. I'm referring to the classic duo that I won't name but I'm 100% sure people know ow about.

In your case, I didn't say anything about you and made it clear in previous comments because ik that even though you and I Massively disagree, the words you speak are atleast genuine and professional and aren't try hard troll comments. So for that you will always have my respect regardless if you and I disagree.

I'm referring to the cultists that everyone already knows about.

As for nawaz vs Imad and the reason mawaz replaced imad, I already made my points in detail in earlier comments on why I disagree and what my viewpoints were, so I'm letting that conversation rest here.

 

[topspin]

I disagree, Babar isn't untouchable, fans get mad the moment any player says a single word about Babar.

Fakhar got mistreated for years and made statements that simply weren't true even acknowledging that Abdullah, Imam, rizwan and Babar should be frontline openers over him since saya Duo wanted fakhar gone.

Fakhar was too afraid to speak up but imad isn't. He has every right to bash Babar and people need to realise that Babar is not a god who cannot be questioned. If Babar doesn't want any criticism then he needs to learn from rohit and kohli, those 2 do not care and let their bat do the talking.

Nor do they try to get the crowd involved and hide behind the cult following, if anything they keep super quiet on the media to the point that that fans aren't even aware of any so called drama like the sanju sampson drama in wc 2023.

Also, I get it if it was just Imad criticising Babar about him being selfish but it wasn't just him. Wasim Akram and Simon Doull have also echoed the same sentiments as him. Why is a neutral commie going to make up stuff when we all know it's true.

 

[mominsaigol]

Also, I get it if it was just Imad criticising Babar about him being selfish but it wasn't just him. Wasim Akram and Simon Doull have also echoed the same sentiments as him. Why is a neutral commie going to make up stuff when we all know it's true.

Brother fans went go go ga ga when nonsense statements like "Babar is no less then Don Bradman were made"

But the moment any critics say anything negative about Babar everyone erupts.

Comments such as " Babar was the best captain and player this tournament "

Or

" Babar is the king of the world"

Are such braindead and cringe worthy statements that it makes me realise why we're such a backward nation.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The comments did not stop though, it continued even when the team was playing the world cup and he was sitting on tv.

Doesnt matter if you are frusturated or not, when the national teams captain is leading the side in the world cup, you need to back him. Fans in Rawalpindi just went after him.

Imad did not lose his fan following due to his bad performance, he lost his fan following due to his comments. There was a time when Imad started to have a big fan following and was almost made the captain of the national team. His comments and plus being seen sitting with Amir and making comments against Babar made him look really really bad.

Again, at the end of the day they were just comments. Imad can be just as wrong as anyone else.
Does fan following really matter that much? I would take an unpopular guy who can win matches over a popular guy who can't any day ofthe week.

 

[Rana]

At the end of the day, Babar had the authority to pick his own team and overrule decisions. He went out of his way to ensure Nawaz would play over Imad. That is just unforgivable. It's no different to Gareth Southgate picking Jordan Henderson for the England team.



An excellent case in point. Another example, also from Australian cricket, is Michael Clarke who referred to Shane Watson as a "tumour".

What I admire about the Aussies is they don't care about their personal differences when they were playing together. They're just built different. Relatively speaking, Pakistani players are massive snowflakes.

You look at Imran Khan and Javed Miandad. They hated each other but still used to consult with one other when it came to devising strategies on how they would dismiss a batsman.

Fast forward 40 years and now Pakistan cricket is adopting Misbah's school of thought. How tragic.

Tbf Misbah wasn’t anywhere near as bad as these guys now. Misbah knew guys like Shoaib Akhtar, Younis Khan, Yousuf, Umar Akmal, Kamran Akmal and Shahid Afridi probably hated him. But he shut up and got on with it. Misbah’s problem wasn’t not being able to get on with people with with conflicting personalities. He could work with them. His problem was more to do with his own negative thinking as a player with that ‘Gotham’s knight in armour’ mentality.

Inzimam used to have that ‘I’m the only saviour’ mentality as well, but I never suspected anything from his demeanour, body language or interviews that he thought he was the only ‘know it all’ and he knows that if he can’t do it, he has no hopes from his team mates either. Misbah’s negative energy rubbed on to the team. Inzi on the other hand was assured but was very chilled.