Fourth Test between England (669) and India (358 & 425/4) ended in a draw with the hosts leading the five-match series 2-1

[Nikhil_cric]

Nuaghty Nikhil special .

Momin is like a younger brother from another mother. Only innocent trolling for Momin .

 

[mominsaigol]

Match is a draw because india played like a coward

 

[Markhor]

Solid batting, average bowling, pitch not playing too many tricks in this post-lunch session I've seen so far.

Met Office forecast for Old Trafford shows we'll probably get the full lot of overs in.

 

[batandballbattle]

So it will be only the 2nd draw of the bazball era, and the only one not largely affected by weather

 

[kron]

Foolish Root dropped Jadeja first ball , all the runs scored by him and stokes in this match are a waste now. England should have been inching towards a victory by now.

India dropped 7 catches in the first game which cost the win

Here England had better conditions to bat and India constantly had overcast conditions.

But yes good series overall.

Too batting friendly though.

Make 4 days pitches and it would be better.

 

[RamLakhan]

I am using mobile and watching TV not on laptop so couldn't reply soon. Rahul's was slightly unplayable and unlucky while Gill's was lapse of concentration. Pitch is tricky but not dangerous.

 

[Devadwal]

So it will be only the 2nd draw of the bazball era, and the only one not largely affected by weather

Around 50 over left and England need only two more wickets, rest are Tailenders . England is big favourite to win this match .

 

[RamLakhan]

I am using mobile and watching TV not on laptop so couldn't reply soon. Rahul's was slightly unplayable and unlucky while Gill's was lapse of concentration. Pitch is tricky but not dangerous.

@Devadwal

 

[Human786]

Archer's career record is pretty ordinary - 51 wickets at avg of 31 & strike rate of over 61 !!!
deficit 24 , 46 overs to go ...

 

[RamLakhan]

Match is a draw because india played like a coward

Pakistan team in Australia is worse than cowardly then.

 

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan team in Australia is worse than cowardly then.

You can mention Pakistan and Bangladesh as much as you want to feed your ego, its what one does when theyve run out of excuses which is what England resorted you towards.

Stick to the topic,

 

[Katwalindian]

Root dropped the match

 

[Human786]

20 overs this partnership ...

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistan team in Australia is worse than cowardly then.

Or team of Temu Tendulkar, record in australia since last decades

 

[captain.hansolo]

Archer's career record is pretty ordinary - 51 wickets at avg of 31 & strike rate of over 61 !!!
deficit 24 , 46 overs to go ...

I have not thought of him as anything extraordinary. At best a wahab riaz level bowler.

 

[RamLakhan]

You can mention Pakistan and Bangladesh as much as you want to feed your ego, its what one does when theyve run out of excuses which is what England resorted you towards.

Stick to the topic,

So what was expected of India then. Try Bazzball and gift England innings+200 runs win?

 

[Rajdeep]

Stay tuned, storm coming tonight boys courtesy Rajdeep if we manage to draw this test. Brace for impact time for all posters who were tagging me yesterday in desperation when India were 0/2

@Devadwal

 

[oatmeal]

Amazing fightback by India. This series has been top notch

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It also proves that stats alone doesn’t mean squat

As with the case for india
Khamoj has insane stats in domestic

But I can guarantee we could find 10 bowlers better than this fraud. Atleast 3 to 5 of them would have the pace and bounce to be good in any condition outside Asia. Domestic stats doesn’t add value. You need to look at skills

England and Australia and also nz are great at spotting talent through their domestic systems. England identified bash to be a tall bowler who gets overspin and steep bounce. They knew he had the skills to succeed in most conditions despite his average stats in first class. They had a process in mind.

Identifying talent is way harder and stats alone prove much. Depends on what conditions they play in, what the team composition is and how the player is being used etc

Does he have great stats though? Dawson is averaging 40 with the ball in county this season

 

[Devadwal]

Stay tuned, storm coming tonight boys courtesy Rajdeep if we manage to draw this test. Brace for impact time for all posters who were tagging me yesterday in desperation when India were 0/2

@Devadwal

Bro No chance as still 41 over left. This match is repeat of MCG test where we had a brainfade (By pant) in last session and lost the match.

Ab fight Kiya hai dard Toda kam hoga .

 

[mominsaigol]

So what was expected of India then. Try Bazzball and gift England innings+200 runs win?

Yes, only cowards bat the way India does

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Bro No chance as still 41 over left. This match is repeat of MCG test where we had a brainfade (By pant) in last session and lost the match.

Ab fight Kiya hai dard Toda kam hoga .

Yes. At least we are going down with a fight. Proud of the boys for not surrendering without a fight

 

[Rajdeep]

Bro No chance as still 41 over left. This match is repeat of MCG test where we had a brainfade (By pant) in last session and lost the match.

Ab fight Kiya hai dard Toda kam hoga .

Btw, where is he? Kaha chupa hua hai salman

 

[kron]

Does he have great stats though? Dawson is averaging 40 with the ball in county this season

Talking about bashir not dawson

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Credit to the allrounders here they have stood tall.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yes. At least we are going down with a fight. Proud of the boys for not surrendering without a fight

Absolutely. They have fought and scrapped well. A commendable performance

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Only 35.5 overs to survive now

 

[Devadwal]

Btw, where is he? Kaha chupa hua hai salman

Doing his puncture job

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

India will save this test match. I don't see any demons in the pitch, and England already dropped their best chance to get Jadeja before lunch. Impressive fightback after being 0-2.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Shameful by England. They can't get the bowling all rounders out.

 

[RidiculousMan]

After about 40 overs. Bashir would produce one magic ball. But so far Dawson has produced none.

 

[mominsaigol]

Match has been drawn due to cowardly nature. Flat track pitch smh.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Looks like the first innings eas the toughest to bat and Stokes made the right call to bowl first.

And people were questioning his decision

 

[Rajdeep]

India should give a target of 80-100 runs in 20 overs and see if Bazballers can chase it. Subhman Gill should think like that.

 

[BDfanforever]

My my English bowling after retirement of Jimmy and Stuart is worse than BD. Joe Root is their premier spinner now?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Only 33 overs to survive . Do India have a chance? I certainly hope so. Would be a great morale booster ahead of the Oval.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

India should give a target of 80-100 runs in 20 overs and see if Bazballers can chase it. Subhman Gill should think like that.

Not at all. Just make them bowl till EOD

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India should give a target of 80-100 runs in 20 overs and see if Bazballers can chase it. Subhman Gill should think like that.

Just go for the draw and fight the next match. No need to commit suicide

 

[Vikram1989]

Looks like the first innings eas the toughest to bat and Stokes made the right call to bowl first.

And people were questioning his decision

More than that Gill should stop saying good toss to loose, dont know what to do for every match

 

[Rajdeep]

Just go for the draw and fight the next match. No need to commit suicide

No one should play for draw.

 

[Devadwal]

India should give a target of 80-100 runs in 20 overs and see if Bazballers can chase it. Subhman Gill should think like that.

They will chase 80 off runs in 10-12 over knowing they wont be all out.

 

[Vikram1989]

Not at all. Just make them bowl till EOD

Again in 3 days there is next match.cook their bowlers as much as possible

 

[BDfanforever]

Life is already short, I pity people that's just wasting their life just sitting on stands watching batsmen pile on runs for 5, 10, 25 days.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Again in 3 days there is next match.cook their bowlers as much as possible

And hopefully we win toss and bat first on a flat Oval pitch.

Their bowling will fall apart a lot quicker if that's the case.

 

[Devadwal]

Not at all. Just make them bowl till EOD

Don't know why but I'm not getting positive vibe

 

[Vikram1989]

And hopefully we win toss and bat first on a flat Oval pitch.

Their bowling will fall apart a lot quicker if that's the case.

And get kudleep in place of 3rd pacer as our pacers are any how useless.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

And get kudleep in place of 3rd pacer as our pacers are any how useless.

Yeah. Not sure about our combination. Anyway let's hope this is safe first. Thinking too far ahead

 

[Vikram1989]

Yeah. Not sure about our combination. Anyway let's hope this is safe first. Thinking too far ahead

Even sastri said the same .with so many bizarre tactics and selections in this match , if India draws this match's then its a win for them

 

[Katwalindian]

Looks like the first innings eas the toughest to bat and Stokes made the right call to bowl first.

And people were questioning his decision

This is the flattest pitch of four tests...I don't even see siraj and bumrah getting out here without playing 10 overs..

 

[Katwalindian]

India will save this test match. I don't see any demons in the pitch, and England already dropped their best chance to get Jadeja before lunch. Impressive fightback after being 0-2.

What's the excuse of not getting washington out?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

This is the flattest pitch of four tests...I don't even see siraj and bumrah getting out here without playing 10 overs..

2nd Test was actually flatter for the first 4 days.

 

[pillionrider]

Those calling this flat didn't watch the 1st session. It has become easier after that. But what Rahul and Gill did, particularly against Stokes who was getting the ball to keep low and bounce almost dangerously from balls pitched in similar areas, was legendary. For some reason the side of the pitch when a lefthander bats is easier to get through.

 

[mominsaigol]

they should try to declare in an hour and give england 1 hrs and 30 mins to chase it down.

Show some spine.

Make it a t20 game, target of 150-170. As england aint settling for a draw. But they wont do that

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Don't know why but I'm not getting positive vibe

Let's hope for the best . We have brother @mominsaigol on our side

 

[DeadlyVenom]

No one should play for draw.

Difference between playing for a draw and committing suicide unnecessarily. The position India were in then a draw is a positive result.

 

[pillionrider]

Not at all. Just make them bowl till EOD

Long way ahead but I'd say if a draw is offered MAKE THEM BOWL. But they'll then just bowl Dawson and Root possibly.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If india wasnt such a coward they should try to declare in an hour and give england 1 hrs and 30 mins to chase it down.

Show some spine.

Make it a t20 game, target of 150-170. As england aint settling for a draw. But these cowards wont do that

They aren't obliged to play a certain way, and I don't think they have played like cowards at all. They have fought bravely.

Secure the draw, why give the match up on a platter unnecessarily?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Long way ahead but I'd say if a draw is offered MAKE THEM BOWL. But they'll then just bowl Dawson and Root possibly.

Doesn't matter. Gill should not shake hands. Make them bowl to the very last ball even if it is Root and Dawson.

 

[oatmeal]

That root dropped catch ended up being the difference

 

[pillionrider]

They aren't obliged to play a certain way, and I don't think they have played like cowards at all. They have fought bravely.

Secure the draw, why give the match up on a platter unnecessarily?

Yeah Crawley might be snapped up but Duckett as a lefthander will be difficult to get out and contain. Giving England even a sniff of a chase shouldn't be an option

 

[mominsaigol]

They aren't obliged to play a certain way, and I don't think they have played like cowards at all. They have fought bravely.

Secure the draw, why give the match up on a platter unnecessarily?

You fight for a win. Draw is the cowards way out. You think someone like Genghis Khan settled for draws? He conquered and had social media existed, he'd be posting videos on YouTube, titled "Just Conquered India"

 

[pillionrider]

Doesn't matter. Gill should not shake hands. Make them bowl to the very last ball even if it is Root and Dawson.

Will drive them nuts hahaha. Will give them something to whinge and turn the focus to

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Will drive them nuts hahaha. Will give them something to whinge and turn the focus to

Exactly. I hope it drives them mad, lol.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Doesn't matter. Gill should not shake hands. Make them bowl to the very last ball even if it is Root and Dawson.

Won't happen. I don't think it's ever happened in cricket before.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Won't happen. I don't think it's ever happened in cricket before.

Well, Gill should try it. Rub salt in tired wounds if possible.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You fight for a win. Draw is the cowards way out. You think someone like Genghis Khan settled for draws? He conquered and had social media existed, he'd be posting videos on YouTube, titled "Just Conquered India"

So India should blast out 120 runs in 45 mins and then try to bowl England out or they are cowards?

Come on man that's just being silly.

 

[Human786]

effectively 121 overs - 339/2 is incredible after being 0/2 !

 

[Devadwal]

Loser England players are as usual cheating by manipulating the ball. Such a lossers team and good from Umpires to warn these sore lossers

 

[Devadwal]

Loser England players are as usual cheating by manipulating the ball. Such a lossers team and good from Umpires to warn these sore lossers

Not a first time they cheating but doing continuosly in this whole innings. #Loser's

 

[mominsaigol]

So India should blast out 120 runs in 45 mins and then try to bowl England out or they are cowards?

Come on man that's just being silly.

Yes.

 

[Ab Fan]

Washington has got a lot of style in his batting.

 

[Ab Fan]

Ravindra Jadeja gets 400+ runs in this series. Hopefully, he can produce a 500 run series in England. That will be a nice answer to people who feel he is a liability away from home.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Damn it. Ragging huge from the rough

 

[Vikram1989]

I wonder how pak produces good umpires from time to time even in difficult times but not good batsmen

 

[Ahmed216]

England need to prepare another such pitch to win series 2-1

 

[Nikhil_cric]

England need to prepare another such pitch to win series 2-1

Agreed. And those who support this would largely be the same folks who talk about England having the most sporting and exciting pitches.

 

[mominsaigol]

Agreed. And those who support this would largely be the same folks who talk about England having the most sporting and exciting pitches.

England do not have the best pitches. Australia does.

 

[Devadwal]

Archer bowling with 129kmp speed @Nikhil_cric

 

[pillionrider]

I wonder how pak produces good umpires from time to time even in difficult times but not good batsmen

Because they are largely an unbiased nation unlike us Also you can eat biryani all day without being mocked for it or asked to exercise it away.

 

[RamLakhan]

Now there is no place for Thakur/Nitish in the team. Don't need that extra useless cushion. Play a proper-specialist spinner/pacer/batsman in that place. Because these two have sealed their place in the side.