Hashim Amla | The Mega Discussion Thread

[Hawkeye]

I'd wait for SA's part of the tournament to be over before making any statements on him. And it's not exactly fair either. Even Inzamam was **** poor in World Cups (except for that solitary knock in the 92' WC), yet he was a very good servant for his team. Give Amla his time to prove himself.

Widely regarded as an impact player. But was a failure in world cups barring 92!

In ODIs, Amla indeed may not have the image of an impact player yet. Can this be changed? surely yes.

Kohli has been breaking Viv's record in fastest ODI runs. In turn, Amla is breaking those Kohli records.

Kohli admittedly has more flair and more gears. SRT and Ponting were great, but many would choose Ponting for his style of play which was more aggressive.

 

[Hawkeye]

@SIF, I can understand why he's not rated as big impact player by his critics.

But you know it how he is ridiculed here in match threads or elsewhere. Few follow his each delivery and if he plays a dot, start going after him.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Amla is rated high.

By everyone.

But to be rated as the best of the best, he has to deliver like the best of the best.

 

[Hitman]

Widely regarded as an impact player. But was a failure in world cups barring 92!

In ODIs, Amla indeed may not have the image of an impact player yet. Can this be changed? surely yes.

Kohli has been breaking Viv's record in fastest ODI runs. In turn, Amla is breaking those Kohli records.

Kohli admittedly has more flair and more gears. SRT and Ponting were great, but many would choose Ponting for his style of play which was more aggressive.

Not being Sachin's advocate here, but Sachin was more aggressive. Sachin has an SR of 86.23 compare to Ponting's SR of 80.39

But in Tests, Ponting has an SR of 58.72 compared to Sachin's SR of 55 (approx).

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Not being Sachin's advocate here, but Sachin was more aggressive. Sachin has an SR of 86.23 compare to Ponting's SR of 80.39

But in Tests, Ponting has an SR of 58.72 compared to Sachin's SR of 55 (approx).

At his peak, Ponting was outrageously aggressive.

Even more than SRT.

 

[Mamoon]

Day 9 done and dusted.

Still no good news for Bhai Association ®.

 

[Hawkeye]

Not being Sachin's advocate here, but Sachin was more aggressive. Sachin has an SR of 86.23 compare to Ponting's SR of 80.39

But in Tests, Ponting has an SR of 58.72 compared to Sachin's SR of 55 (approx).

Nah. Don't think we can compare it like that. Amla has a higher SR than both of them. ABd almost same SR as Amla.

Mostly has to do with the way they played their shots. Also, the impression is built by some memorable performances.

But you're entitled to your opinion.

 

[Electron]

At his peak, Ponting was outrageously aggressive.

Even more than SRT.

Still not comparable to the aggression Sachin had in his peak.

 

[Strike Rate]

Nah. Don't think we can compare it like that. Amla has a higher SR than both of them. ABd almost same SR as Amla.

Mostly has to do with the way they played their shots. Also, the impression is built by some memorable performances.

But you're entitled to your opinion.

AB strike rate is 97

 

[Hitman]

At his peak, Ponting was outrageously aggressive.

Even more than SRT.

Really? I don't think so. Remember Sachin from 98 till 2002? He was more aggressive than even Lara was at his peak. Nevermind, I've always been a massive fan of Ponting, have always rated him extremely highly, wayyyyyyyy higher than the likes of Dravid, Kallis or Sangakkara. I loved his aggression. I rate him behind Sachin by just a hairline, just like I rate rate Sachin behind 'King' Viv by just a hairline, and Viv behind Sobers by just a hairline

 

[Hawkeye]

AB strike rate is 97

Amla is 90.

But warner has 85

Are they equally aggressive?

 

[Strike Rate]

Amla is 90.

But warner has 85

Are they equally aggressive?

Some just look aggressive from face and their stats tell other story

 

[Hitman]

Nah. Don't think we can compare it like that. Amla has a higher SR than both of them. ABd almost same SR as Amla.

Mostly has to do with the way they played their shots. Also, the impression is built by some memorable performances.

But you're entitled to your opinion.

Won't disregard you. Viv is regarded as the greatest destroyer of attacks, yet both Gilly and Viru have better SR than him in Test cricket. Different eras, I guess.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Still not comparable to the aggression Sachin had in his peak.

Debatable.

Ponting in tests at his peak was easily more aggressive than SRT.
In ODIs, you can debate.

 

[Mamoon]

Some just look aggressive from their faces but their stats tell another story.

Some just look aggressive from their stats but their faces tell another story.

 

[Electron]

Debatable.

Ponting in tests at his peak was easily more aggressive than SRT.
In ODIs, you can debate.

In Tests, he was. But in ODIs, there's no debate imo.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Really? I don't think so. Remember Sachin from 98 till 2002? He was more aggressive than even Lara was at his peak. Nevermind, I've always been a massive fan of Ponting, have always rated him extremely highly, wayyyyyyyy higher than the likes of Dravid, Kallis or Sangakkara. I loved his aggression. I rate him behind Sachin by just a hairline, just like I rate rate Sachin behind 'King' Viv by just a hairline, and Viv behind Sobers by just a hairline

Was just talking about aggression and not overall quality as player.

ODIs its debatable.
Tests, Ponting at his peak was more aggressive than SRT (barring SRT of 1998 I guess )

 

[Abhilash93]

Here is what he spouted out:

"There was too much cricket in a months period. 4 Test matches in Australia is never easy. After that you needed a break, but you had a triangular.

It was already in the itinerary, so you had to go through that. But not for one minute, did anyone give that importance.
So, if you guys thought India was not shaping up, they were mentally tired, they needed a break and you can see the difference now.

If we had lost these two WC matches and won in the triangular, no one would have cared. These are your important games, this is where you gotta get your best game together. I'm proud of the boys.

We've got to take every game one at a time and not be worried about who you are going up against. You go out and execute your stuff in the best possible manner, whether its batting, bowling or fielding and if you can be consistent in your own game, then the results will follow."

 

[Abhilash93]

^Sorry that was for another thread. Mods, please delete.

 

[Mamoon]

Can't handle anything when the pressure is on.

 

[Strike Rate]

Won't disregard you. Viv is regarded as the greatest destroyer of attacks, yet both Gilly and Viru have better SR than him in Test cricket. Different eras, I guess.

I would pay anything to watch Viv in this era he will eat every xyz bowler alive for breakfast with these bats fielding rules and small boundaries

 

[Electron]

Amla struggles in Australia, so this is nothing new. But he is still a class player.

 

[Mystrey]

He has bottled every single ICC tourney in his career.

It has always been my time.

You will incur the wrath of his fanboys.

He is a classic choker along with the rest of the team.

 

[Mamoon]

You will incur the wrath of his fanboys.

He is a classic choker along with the rest of the team.

After Kallis' retirement, he is the longest serving choker in the team now.

 

[PowerPlay]

bhai bashing is a favt time pass for some people on this forum look at it 418 post out of 2596 in this thread are by only one person amazing so much time in his hands to waste

 

[ikram17]

I'm actually amazed the guy has so much time to post. Its incredible. They should do a day in the like of Mamoon to see how he handles pakpassion posting while living a life.

This is how I imagine his pakpassion set up:
Just imagine a bunch of threads

 

[Hundred*]

The biggest choker under pressure, not fit to be a all time great.

 

[Bilal7]

Lol. Four os the top five are fans of Amla but the top position is held by a guy who goes into a depression whenever Amla is praised.

 

[ikram17]

Lol. Four os the top five are fans of Amla but the top position is held by a guy who goes into a depression whenever Amla is praised.

Could you link me that post?

 

[Bilal7]

Could you link me that post?

Probably not because I don't remember the thread it was posted in but he also recently claimed that seeing Amla fail was his most favourite occasion in cricket, bar none. Thanks to this neat feature, we can see that the stats back up his claims.

 

[Strike Rate]

Future South African captain, and what an ambassador.

This man predicted it more than 5 years ago!

 

[PakWC2015]

This man predicted it more than 5 years ago!

If he doesn't hit a century today he should be dropped.

 

[ikram17]

I thought Amla only had one gear?

The genius posters on this board lead me to believe that Amla was a batsman only capable of scoring one way and would hamper a teams progress in power plays and situations were quick runs were needed. I always wondered how his career SR was 90.

Batting on 154 off 125 balls.

Scored 48 runs off the last 17 deliveries faced.

Has also smashed 4 6's

In before minnows, flat pitch etc

 

[samplepiece]

Its Manuka Oval

 

[Point Black]

Remind me who he playing again?

 

[ShahKhan007]

Oh god. Sometimes I can understand why poor Amla is hated on and threads are created against him because his fans are no different than Sachinistas. Highly sensitive and very easy to take the bait.

 

[ikram17]

Remind me who he playing again?

One of the few unbeaten teams in the world cup, Mr I'm super Aussie.

 

[saj786]

The genius posters on this board lead me to believe that Amla was a batsman only capable of scoring one way and would hamper a teams progress in power plays and situations were quick runs were needed. I always wondered how his career SR was 90.

Batting on 154 off 125 balls.

Scored 48 runs off the last 17 deliveries faced.

Has also smashed 4 6's

In before minnows, flat pitch etc

Lol amla is class , actually misbah needs to sit down and watch his innings to learn how to construct a innings

 

[Point Black]

One of the few unbeaten teams in the world cup, Mr I'm super Aussie.

Is he playing against NZ?

 

[Itachi]

that was an awesome innings. those cover drives were so classy.... Amla is a treat to watch. and rarely he fails.

 

[Electron]

Haha..I am sure this inning proved a point. Congrats.

 

[Bilal7]

Haha..I am sure this inning proved a point. Congrats.

This troll has been trying so hard to downplay this century but has been unsuccessful. Very entertaining to watch, I must say.

Amla can definitely hit big when he needs to but that isn't his job. His job is to give South Africa a good start and score a big chunk of their runs at a good rate. The big hitting down the order is for ABD, Miller and Duminy.

 

[Itachi]

This troll has been trying so hard to downplay this century but has been unsuccessful. Very entertaining to watch, I must say.

Amla can definitely hit big when he needs to but that isn't his job. His job is to give South Africa a good start and score a big chunk of their runs at a good rate. The big hitting down the order is for ABD, Miller and Duminy.

agreed. he has the same role as kohli in team india.

 

[ForeverIndian]

Against Ireland lol

 

[ikram17]

Bhai hit almost 60 in his last 25ish balls.

Bhai must have had a transmission change. Bhai has confused the nay sayers...

 

[Fire Bird]

Flat pitch, minnows, AB would have scored 200. Selfish slow batting from the legend

 

[Hawkeye]

Lol.

Look dude.

There are certain people on PP who have made it personal against ABD and Amla.

That herd consists of Indians who I don't know why feel insecure. Is it because of Siachin? Or perhaps Kohli. I mean, they just can't appreciate and accept that someone else is as good or maybe even better (ABD specifically).

You will see twisted logics being thrown to take digs at these two.


You won't find this hate anywhere else, in no cricketing circles. Just a bunch of parosis (NOT ALL!!!) and our very own Mamoon).

 

[ikram17]

Mamoon holds the top spot in almost all Amla threads along with a mini army of the bearers of the tiranga. It would be my honour for him to score a brisk 100 here as well. Not sure about Amla but Mamoon has at least 20 gears of scoring, I mean posting

 

[Fire Bird]

I changed my mind is a greater batsman than and

 

[Bilal7]

Mamoon holds the top spot in almost all Amla threads along with a mini army of the bearers of the tiranga. It would be my honour for him to score a brisk 100 here as well. Not sure about Amla but Mamoon has at least 20 gears of scoring, I mean posting

)

Great stuff! I hope he doesn't hurt himself with his depression today.

 

[Hawkeye]

Anti vs Pro Amla groups.

Fun to follow this battle.

 

[PowerPlay]

in before anti bhai brigade start their campaign to divert attention from this 159

 

[BlackThunder]

Outstanding innings by Amla. Bhai played some seriously fantastic shots, that hit over mid on for six was superb.

 

[Electron]

People calling me troll should see the mirror.

Did this inning really showed that Amla had multiple gears? Ask yourself.

Did Binny bhai's 6 wickets prove that he had a Super Wasim gear? Please see sense before disrespecting other person for his views.

 

[BlackThunder]

Bhai doesn't to shift gears. His presence in the crease is enough to ensure a 300 score for SA on most days.

 

[Fire Bird]

Legendary innings. Better than anything this guy could muster

 

[Scrolln]

Getting excited over a daddy ton against Ireland is like celebrating a win against Zimbabwe.

Oh wait...

 

[ikram17]

People calling me troll should see the mirror.

Did this inning really showed that Amla had multiple gears? Ask yourself.

Did Binny bhai's 6 wickets prove that he had a Super Wasim gear? Please see sense before disrespecting other person for his views.

Well I mean I saw bhai hitting 46446...is bhai just a lucky fluke who averages 57 with a 90 SR?

Teams must be unlucky that a one geared player like Amla has managed to strike at 90 and score centuries at a faster rate than Kohli etc

 

[Enforcer]

Great Knock By

 

[Enforcer]

His ultra-aggressive approach today was refreshing to watch

 

[Mobashir]

Not great, but very good innings I will say.
You guys need to understand that cricket has changed. Could have played a little bit quicker from 80 to 100. But he has managed well after the hundred.

 

[Electron]

Well I mean I saw bhai hitting 46446...is bhai just a lucky fluke who averages 57 with a 90 SR?

Teams must be unlucky that a one geared player like Amla has managed to strike at 90 and score centuries at a faster rate than Kohli etc

Oh yaar please. The gear Amla has is wonderful. A consistant SR of 90 with such constency is like Sanga 2.0

But what people question is him having that extra gear. Lemme give you something that might make things easier to grasp.

Gear 1 - Misbah and Shehzad.
Gear 2 - Sanga
Gear 3 - Rahane, Amla
Gear 4 - Kohli, Warner
Gear 5 - Rohit, Gayle , Maxwell
Gear 6 - AB Devilliers

Please see the point before getting so defensive about Amla and calling others troll.

 

[Laal]

Ikram bhai, that's a revelation. Ain't it?

 

[Pantani]

He needs to score a century in 70 balls or less to be taken seriously.

 

[London_Lahori]

Salty tears from our Parosis )

 

[Zeshan547]

Amla is better than Kohli in matches where it's not a pressure cooker situation and stakes are not high and in first inning but kohli is in different league when it's all about pressure matches and big games and also when chasing a big total, over all amla is better kohli is the man for the big occasion, all amla records would worth twice if he can help south africa win when it will matter most, but sorry most people won't put their money for that on him.

 

[Electron]

Good inning. Proved to be a good addition to my fantasy team.

Was an easy prediction.

 

[Laal]

On a serious note, Amla doesn't need additional "gears" to prove his ATG status. He's excellent at knitting an inning and providing a launching pad to AB de Villiers et al. He has a very clear role outlined in the SA set up and most of time he performs it to a tee.

 

[Laal]

Amla is better than Kohli in matches where it's not a pressure cooker situation and stakes are not high and in first inning but kohli is in different league when it's all about pressure matches and big games and also when chasing a big total, over all amla is better kohli is the man for the big occasion, all amla records would worth twice if he can help south africa win when it will matter most, but sorry most people won't put their money for that on him.

Both have different roles. False equivalence. Both are excellent at what they do.

 

[IndianWillow]

When bhai plays half as good against one of the top teams in a must win match, he will silence his critics. Sorry, this match does not cut it, he did not even walk into a half pressure situation like 2/20.

 

[Bilal7]

Very good innings from the Mighty #.

 

[Electron]

This troll has been trying so hard to downplay this century but has been unsuccessful. Very entertaining to watch, I must say.

Amla can definitely hit big when he needs to but that isn't his job. His job is to give South Africa a good start and score a big chunk of their runs at a good rate. The big hitting down the order is for ABD, Miller and Duminy.

I know you and some other Bhai fans ® have a big say on what happens in this forum, but please, stay respectful brother.

You guys got my wonderful thread questioning a certain batsman's technique against pace and bounce deleted....no problems.

But I do not appreciate all these personal attacks. What wrong did I say with my comment above that you had to call me a troll ? I respect you guys, so I expect a similar treatment from you.

 

[Bilal7]

Salty tears from our Parosis )

Should have seen the match-threads. The jokers were pouncing on every dot that Amla played and suddenly vanished when he started hitting out towards the end.

 

[ikram17]

I know you and some other Bhai fans ® have a big say on what happens in this forum, but please, stay respectful brother.

You guys got my wonderful thread questioning a certain batsman's technique against pace and bounce deleted....no problems.

But I do not appreciate all these personal attacks. What wrong did I say with my comment above that you had to call me a troll ? I respect you guys, so I expect a similar treatment from you.

Bro, are you crying. From the way you're typing Im 90% sure you're crying in real life.

Mods please bring whatever wonderful thread back in which this poster wrote amazing analysis.

 

[Mir jibran]

Bhai hit almost 60 in his last 25ish balls.

Bhai must have had a transmission change. Bhai has confused the nay sayers...

if they say bhai's these centuries are useless then wat abt sachins those 100's which ended in match losing efforts
y double standard's for amla from these guys

 

[Bilal7]

I know you and some other Bhai fans ® have a big say on what happens in this forum, but please, stay respectful brother.

You guys got my wonderful thread questioning a certain batsman's technique against pace and bounce deleted....no problems.

But I do not appreciate all these personal attacks. What wrong did I say with my comment above that you had to call me a troll ? I respect you guys, so I expect a similar treatment from you.

Stop grouping me with anyone else since I have no idea what you are talking about with your precious thread being deleted. I will say that it was a rubbish thread which only proved that Kohli is a tail-ender in conditions where Amla is decent.

You have been doing nothing but subtle trolling tonight and it is there for everyone to see. If you want people to respect you, you need to earn that respect.

 

[bill_123]

Haha..I am sure this inning proved a point. Congrats.

this guy used to be a decent poster...then turned into a blind amla hating troll....and he aint an entertaining troll as well....a pretty boring one

 

[BlackThunder]

I am genuinely happy to see Bhai association back in full force after some rough times. Their participation makes pp that much more interesting. Happy times guys

 

[ikram17]

Careful bill_123, he seems sensitive. The bullies made the mods delete his lovely analysis about a certain batsman's technique against pace and bounce

 

[Fire Bird]

Amla is a matchwinner