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ICC World Cup 2023 | Pakistan v Australia | 10th Warm-up | Hyderabad | 03 October | Australia innings

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topspin said:
He's being called a part-timer and I read in the last match thread "he's even worse than Shadab" after struggling in the first few overs against NZ.
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Wait so he's worse then shadab for struggling against NZ a quality opposition but shadab is class for bowling endless full tosses to kohli and Rahul?
 
mir is history. Hasan Ali has better stats than the fixer. Get over it
 
I will say one thing though,

Shadab is alot better at field placements and rotating bowlers then Mr stick by the formula.

Gotta give him credit for that, even in the afg series he was rotating and placing fields well.
 
Just tuned in from watching the asian games. Pitch, conditions look awesome. Good to see crowd in stadium.
good to see pak on our turf and our locals cheering them, i am sure i head the awesome song 'dil dil pak' played when the second wicket went down.
meanwhile aus look set for big score unless pak find a way of conceding less from spinners and getting ball to reverse by the quicks
 
Australia have Smith to counter spin.

Labu isnt the worst batsmen against spin either.
 
Their accumalators aren't getting slow after 2 quick wickets. Hmm
 
Mir spins his legbreak more than Shadab but doesn't seem to have any variations to mix it up with.
 
there is difference you see. We are all accumalators..they are taking the game away. We would wait for last 10 overs before slogging. That is the reason we should always be chasing but we cant chase anything
 
Who was the poster who tried to correct me on labu and Smith not being better strikers then babar?
 
Best two players of spin on now with Smith and Marcus...Usama being hammered but Shadab keeping it tight...
 
Markhor said:
Mir spins his legbreak more than Shadab but doesn't seem to have any variations to mix it up with.
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He does have a good googly but yes I agree. This is where he could do with some topspin ;)
 
heddie19 said:
Their accumalators aren't getting slow after 2 quick wickets. Hmm
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Since when was Smith and labu an accumulator.

Smith has literally struck 70 ball 100's. The guy easily ups the ante to 150 when striking but normally he plays at the 90 to 105 Strike rate mark lol.

He's class against spin, a proper spin basher. Against fast He's a bit slow though.
 
mominsaigol said:
Since when was Smith and labu an accumulator.

Smith has literally struck 70 ball 100's. The guy easily ups the ante to 150 when striking but normally he plays at the 90 to 105 Strike rate mark lol.

He's class against spin, a proper spin basher. Against fast He's a bit slow though.
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Babar also has scored a 49 ball hundred and a 70 ball 100 to the aussies in the ODIs which you call an accumulator and change your standards for Pak player. Smith's career SR wouldn't have been 87 hadn't he been an accumulator.
 
The little skip flick Smith plays against the spin reminds me of that shot Sarfraz used to play.

God I wish we had player's who could play spin like that
 
CerebralPatriot said:
Babar and Rizwan would probably be batting at a strike rate of 70 in this situation
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You and I know damn well, after watching how Australia bat and how New Zealand batted and how saud shakeel batted,

Posters after this match will conveniently forget , and will still say rizzu and imam are goated. Lol.

Happens everytime XD. Fr though rizzu and imam really need to learn how to bat like Warner and labu.

In the case of Babar, he fr needs to learn how to play like Smith.
 
heddie19 said:
Babar also has scored a 49 ball hundred and a 70 ball 100 to the aussies in the ODIs which you call an accumulator and change your standards for Pak player. Smith's career SR wouldn't have been 87 hadn't he been an accumulator.
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I have no issues with babar, I have issues with rizzu and Imam.

Babar is more inconsistent then Smith though, but babar is a class bat, I don't mind him as a bat, I mind him as a captain yes.

But no complaints from my end on babar. He still needs to learn how to pace his innings like Smith, babar takes time and does slow down for milestones sometimes.
 
Impressed with Shadab and Mir’s partnership. Far better than Nawaz and Shadab.
 
mominsaigol said:
I have no issues with babar, I have issues with rizzu and Imam.

Babar is more inconsistent then Smith though, but babar is a class bat, I don't mind him as a bat, I mind him as a captain yes.

But no complaints from my end on babar. He still needs to learn how to pace his innings like Smith, babar takes time and does slow down for milestones sometimes.
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Imam is slow, no doubt about that. But not Babar and Rizwan. Despite him slowing down, he has a better SR then Smith :)
 
mominsaigol said:
You and I know damn well, after watching how Australia bat and how New Zealand batted and how saud shakeel batted,

Posters after this match will conveniently forget , and will still say rizzu and imam are goated. Lol.

Happens everytime XD. Fr though rizzu and imam really need to learn how to bat like Warner and labu.

In the case of Babar, he fr needs to learn how to play like Smith.
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Rizwan and Imam can practice day and night with the best coaches in the world but fact of the matter is they will never come close to having the ability to up the ante, they don't have the talent to.

Babar is also in the same boat.

The only guys who can actually recreate what the Aussies do are Sharjeel, Saim, Saud, Danish, Omair Yusuf and Sarfraz but as well all know politics is blocking their entry
 
Matthew Hayden seems to be very excited for 14th Oct game
 
These lot are going to get crushed by India on the 14th.

They will 100% crumble under the pressure of the crowd.

It's going to be another very one sided game
 
heddie19 said:
Imam is slow, no doubt about that. But not Babar and Rizwan. Despite him slowing down, he has a better SR then Smith :)
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Rizzu can't increase his SR beyond 110. The issue is in the final 5 overs, the guy will max get you 40 of 30.

If he was opening then I'd be okay with it cause a 90 ball 100 is welcome.

But he's playing at 4, 4 is a crucial spot because unless it's a collapse, you need to expand upon what the top order has built, which is keep up with the run rate and build upon it.

A 110 sr that rizzu gets stuck at in odi, is costly at no 4. That's why I advocated a best position for him to be opening over imam. His style of play is welcome their but its suicide at no 4.
 
mominsaigol said:
Rizzu can't increase his SR beyond 110. The issue is in the final 5 overs, the guy will max get you 40 of 30.

If he was opening then I'd be okay with it cause a 90 ball 100 is welcome.

But he's playing at 4, 4 is a crucial spot because unless it's a collapse, you need to expand upon what the top order has built, which is keep up with the run rate and build upon it.

A 110 sr that rizzu gets stuck at in odi, is costly at no 4. That's why I advocated a best position for him to be opening over imam. His style of play is welcome their but its suicide at no 4.
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He played at 117 in the last ODI we played as far as I remember. Where do you get your numbers from?
 
PakPremi said:
How are they batting better than Babar does or even Rizwan does, even though Smith is a good player of soin
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They went after the bowling straight and didn't let the run rate fall below.

Babar and rizzu let the run rate dip and if they get out, we lose. Yes if they stay and don't get out they manage to catch up and even increase the run rate.

But that's their issue. When the come on the scene, you better hope they don't depart early cause if they do, they'll depart by crippling us with a dip in run rate.

It's a run rate game nowadays tbh. Averages mean jack now.
 
heddie19 said:
Imam is slow, no doubt about that. But not Babar and Rizwan. Despite him slowing down, he has a better SR then Smith :)
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And thats why Smith and Labu are fighting for one spot in the team.

But we have Imam, Abdullah, Babar and Rizwan as our 4 consolidators.

And we hope to win the World Cup.
 
heddie19 said:
He played at 117 in the last ODI we played as far as I remember. Where do you get your numbers from?
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At NZ he played at 110. Not 117. Unless you're talking about Sri lanka, that was a good innings, but still not good enough.

Saud was playing at 140.

You need to up the ante to 140 to 150 at the back end, we need 10 to 15 runs of atleast 1 to 2 overs at the back end with the rest of the overs having a solid 6 to 8 runs minimum.

Rizzu ain't doing that. No 4 is not a good position for him. Opening is though.
 
All three batsman got out to Spinners so far .india should play 3 spinners on 8 oct against Australia
 
Nawaz gets Labuschagne first ball! Angling in from around the wicket, gripping and spinning away to take the outside edge. Haris takes a sharp catch and though the batter isn't happy, think that's frustration at himself rather than the decision
Marnus Labuschagne c †Mohammad Haris b Mohammad Nawaz 40 (31b 5x4 0x6) SR: 129.03
 
mominsaigol said:
At NZ he played at 110. Not 117. Unless you're talking about Sri lanka, that was a good innings, but still not good enough.

Saud was playing at 140.

You need to up the ante to 140 to 150 at the back end, we need 10 to 15 runs of atleast 1 to 2 overs at the back end with the rest of the overs having a solid 6 to 8 runs minimum.

Rizzu ain't doing that. No 4 is not a good position for him. Opening is though.
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Rizwan is not surviving any top class spell as opener.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Nawaz gets Labuschagne first ball! Angling in from around the wicket, gripping and spinning away to take the outside edge. Haris takes a sharp catch and though the batter isn't happy, think that's frustration at himself rather than the decision
Marnus Labuschagne c †Mohammad Haris b Mohammad Nawaz 40 (31b 5x4 0x6) SR: 129.03
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I think we all have cricinfo app in our phones as well as computers. No need to copy paste
 
mominsaigol said:
They went after the bowling straight and didn't let the run rate fall below.

Babar and rizzu let the run rate dip and if they get out, we lose. Yes if they stay and don't get out they manage to catch up and even increase the run rate.

But that's their issue. When the come on the scene, you better hope they don't depart early cause if they do, they'll depart by crippling us with a dip in run rate.

It's a run rate game nowadays tbh. Averages mean jack now.
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This is a phatta wicket openers gave them great platform to CONTINUE, and if anything they batted very slow first 3 to 4 overs considering the position they were in, and even now we're not exactly spanking 8 runs an over.
 
mominsaigol said:
At NZ he played at 110. Not 117. Unless you're talking about Sri lanka, that was a good innings, but still not good enough.

Saud was playing at 140.

You need to up the ante to 140 to 150 at the back end, we need 10 to 15 runs of atleast 1 to 2 overs at the back end with the rest of the overs having a solid 6 to 8 runs minimum.

Rizzu ain't doing that. No 4 is not a good position for him. Opening is though.
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He is not going to open given we have 3 openers in our team already. But yeah, he can be even better on the opening spot as in T20s. then again, no point of discussing that isn't going to happen anytime soon.
 
Shadab immediately brings a slip up for Nawaz...at least he is pro active and trying to get another wicket
 
Now both Mir and Nawaz bowled better than Shadab but one of the bowler has to sit out
 
Haris Rauf to Smith, OUT
And he gets a wicket here, too!
Steven Smith c †Mohammad Haris b Haris Rauf 27 (29b 2x4 0x6) SR: 93.1
 
I know this pitch has help.

Its a 300 pitch max.

If Aus score anything above 300, doubt Pakistan can chase it.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
And thats why Smith and Labu are fighting for one spot in the team.

But we have Imam, Abdullah, Babar and Rizwan as our 4 consolidators.

And we hope to win the World Cup.
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Dr_Bassim said:
And thats why Smith and Labu are fighting for one spot in the team.

But we have Imam, Abdullah, Babar and Rizwan as our 4 consolidators.

And we hope to win the World Cup.
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Abdullah is a brilliant player of spin bowling perhaps the best young player of spin you dont get double ton in sl like that
 
And after batting this slowly Babar and Rizwan actually make significant scores
 
Play and Miss from Maxwell...with that wicket, Rauf gets his mojo back
 
Now that Pakistan is getting wickets, watch all plastic fans come back and start praising the team. Fickle fans.
 
Need to see how Hasan Ali bowls towards the tail end of the innings as that is when he is getting hammered
 
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