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India [269/2] beat England [268] by eight wickets in the first ODI to take 1-0 series lead

I dont know how with this bowling Eng were able to beat Nz.

Here is a thing, Eng just bcz Rashid and Moen does better against NZ, SA and Aus in terms of bowling. However, that factor is completely marginalized when they are playing against sub contental teams.
 
A question to you guys. What would you prefer-

A consistent opener with a score of 35-40, odd 70-80 or a century- Dhawan

An inconsistent opener when in flow can destroy any bowling line up. Monstrous scores but can’t rely on him- Rohit

Its ideal to have combination of both at the top which India have
 
A question to you guys. What would you prefer-

A consistent opener with a score of 35-40, odd 70-80 or a century- Dhawan

An inconsistent opener when in flow can destroy any bowling line up. Monstrous scores but can’t rely on him- Rohit

depends who are the other players.... for example, no other team could have afforded a player like sehwag without the strong middle order that india had.
 
A question to you guys. What would you prefer-

A consistent opener with a score of 35-40, odd 70-80 or a century- Dhawan

An inconsistent opener when in flow can destroy any bowling line up. Monstrous scores but can’t rely on him- Rohit

Dhawan any day in ODI
 
Required Rate is less than 5 , do not think Kohli will play any rash shot here , India certainly will be crusing along here.
 
This is not a slow pitch.
This is easily a 330-380 pitch considering small boundaries.
India have already crossed 100 in 15th over without taking any risk.
 
Another 10 overs of Kohli and Rohit, this game is over.

England need 2 quick wickets. Preferably Kohli and Rahul.

Induction of Rahul has strengthened the Indian batting lineup quite a bit. Now India has another threat that can win matches his own.
 
I dont know how with this bowling Eng were able to beat Nz.

Here is a thing, Eng just bcz Rashid and Moen does better against NZ, SA and Aus in terms of bowling. However, that factor is completely marginalized when they are playing against sub contental teams.

That is the thing, England don't have Strac/Cummins/Rabada/Johnson/Amir/Boult type bowlers to trouble Indian Batsmen. Spin is never a problem with most Asian teams. There is nothing for ENG to through at India. You are not going to score 400 runs everyday, there has to be more depth in the team...
 
This is not a slow pitch.
This is easily a 330-380 pitch considering small boundaries.
India have already crossed 100 in 15th over without taking any risk.

310 is par here. 330 would have been winning total.

England were easily 70 runs short here.
 
That is the thing, England don't have Strac/Cummins/Rabada/Johnson/Amir/Boult type bowlers to trouble Indian Batsmen. Spin is never a problem with most Asian teams. There is nothing for ENG to through at India. You are not going to score 400 runs everyday, there has to be more depth in the team...

Agreed. The likes of Plunkett and wood are not going to win matches for England. You need a bowler who can swing at pace like a Starc/Rabada/Amir/Boult to get rind of Indian top order with the new ball.

England have none. The closest they got is David Willey and he is not in the same class as the above mentioned bowlers.
 
Like i said. It is only a fraction slower and a hint of turn. India are usually te slowest team in the first 10 and even we are scoring quickly almost effortlessly.

This is no 400+ pitch like the ones this ground has been producing. 350 looks like a winning score on this pitch with a decent bowling line up.
 
310 is par here. 330 would have been winning total.

England were easily 70 runs short here.
If you want to challenge India you will have to score 340+ on these types of pitches.
England batted poorly still they reached 270.
I think 300 is below par here.
 
That is the thing, England don't have Strac/Cummins/Rabada/Johnson/Amir/Boult type bowlers to trouble Indian Batsmen. Spin is never a problem with most Asian teams. There is nothing for ENG to through at India. You are not going to score 400 runs everyday, there has to be more depth in the team...

None of the English bowlers has bowled even one good over so far which could trouble Indian batsmen. Dhawan got out to a rash shot.
 
An ideal batting practice match now in full dress rehersal mode.
Each of top 5 batters should try to get atleast 1 boundary preferably try hitting two 4s each over.
No sixes please. Practice scoring 8 runs and over in risk free strokes.

When last 70 runs are required send in Dhoni, Pandya and Raina with a target they score combined 70 runs in 35 balls.
 
Another 10 overs of Kohli and Rohit, this game is over.

England need 2 quick wickets. Preferably Kohli and Rahul.

Induction of Rahul has strengthened the Indian batting lineup quite a bit. Now India has another threat that can win matches his own.

Yet to show he can bat at 4 in ODIs. A totally dufferent challenge. Think Ganguly has suggested Rahul at 3 and Kohli at 4 even for ODIs. Doubt Kohli will do this though.
 
This is no 400+ pitch like the ones this ground has been producing. 350 looks like a winning score on this pitch with a decent bowling line up.

I did say it is a 350 -400 pitch. it depends on the bowling lineup of course. But 268 is a phenomenal effort by any bowling side no matter what. Any other bowling side would have struggled to keep them below 350.
 
Yet to show he can bat at 4 in ODIs. A totally dufferent challenge. Think Ganguly has suggested Rahul at 3 and Kohli at 4 even for ODIs. Doubt Kohli will do this though.

I think when batting if first wicket goes down early, then he can send rahul at no. 3
 
Agreed. The likes of Plunkett and wood are not going to win matches for England. You need a bowler who can swing at pace like a Starc/Rabada/Amir/Boult to get rind of Indian top order with the new ball.

England have none. The closest they got is David Willey and he is not in the same class as the above mentioned bowlers.
None of the bowlers will do jack against Indian batsmen on flat roads.Johnson had conceded many 300 plus scores agianst India.
 
England have Bangladesh level bowling attack. They will struggle to get to the semis of the 2019 WC. Mark my words.
 
I felt this during 2016-17 tour that stokes always tries hard to get kohlis wicket anyhow. With ball or in field or by run out. Will be great contest in test matches.
 
Agreed. The likes of Plunkett and wood are not going to win matches for England. You need a bowler who can swing at pace like a Starc/Rabada/Amir/Boult to get rind of Indian top order with the new ball.

England have none. The closest they got is David Willey and he is not in the same class as the above mentioned bowlers.

Hopefully that will be Chris Woakes at the world cup next year.
 
Yes I have seen all 6 wickets, poor batting against good balls but nothing special. Rashid Khan, Shadab Khan are better than this guy.

shadab has done jack to be even compared to him and Rashid is more of a t20 bowler
 
Hopefull Rahul's entry in top 4 will make him realize his responsibility and work in our favor.
 
I wish our middle order inspired as much confidence as our top order. KL Rahul's inclusion helps. Dhoni isn't leaving till 2019. We need a another good middle order batsman.
 
These 2 making it look easy. England batting depth is very good but India look a better balanced side. They have 4 bowlers who make the team on bowling merit. Batting line up is reliant in top 3 but today's middle order is a bit stronger.

India looking good for WC but it's a year away yet. Anything can happen now.
 
Guys who is that Indian commentator? Deep Dasgupta? Who hired him :facepalm:
 
For those saying this is not a 400 + pitch. England were 166/1 after 25 overs in that 444 match. They went berserk after that :mv
 
Rohit
dhawan
kohli
rahul....

sounds a stronger top order especially in flat pitches. Since now a days, pitches are mostly flat, so we do have an edge.
 
Nasser Hussain in the Sony Indian commentary box. Does that mean the Sony Indian commentators will be in the Sky Sports box too? I wouldn't be surprised if they've given up hope on Harbhajan.
 
What a drive from Kohli. [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] looks like Kohli will have match winning century knocks in England and South Africa. Going to hillairious to see how you switch your goal posts now:))) :)))
 
What a drive from Kohli. [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] looks like Kohli will have match winning century knocks in England and South Africa. Going to hillairious to see how you switch your goal posts now:))) :)))

He was, of course , talking about tests :)
 
147 runs partnership , Very good sensible batting . India have stamped there authority in the OD series early here
 
207/1 after 30 overs. Double the score = 414. Batting first this should have been a 450 belter. India just bowled like champions :bow: while other treams gave away 444 and 481 and 350 etc.
 
Lots of ignorant cricket fans here cant believe.
England is currenly n.o 1 odi team guys. Although india is always consistent n.o 1. But you cant ignore england team like this. You dnt reach to n.o 1 ranking aive hi ...
Fact is india is tge strongest team and they 9 out of 10 times would beat any team any where if play to tgeir potential .
Batting order of dhawan,rohit,kohli,kl rahul,dhoni ,pandya is no joke.
Plus bowling of bumrah,bhuvi ,shami or umesh plus kuldeep or chahal or ashwin or jadeja.
Man what else you want. I would still play ms dhoni instead of any otger keeper in the world especially for odi matches. His keeping skills,running between wickets ,and hitting ability is still no match to anyone.
One more middle order batsman and one more match winner fast bowler.india gonna be unbeatable
 
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