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India (587 & 427/6d) defeat England (407 & 271) by 336 runs in 2nd Test at Edgbaston

England should realise that would have backfired badly against NZ or SA.

They are lucky India has the most non existent tail in existence that will ensure a high score approach wont work but indian batters will be able to ensure draws eventually if said pitches are curated.

Why not only make 1,3,5 roads? England could have beaten india in the 2nd and 4th test if their was some spice?

The philosophy is simple.

England wants to give itself the best chance to be able to outbat India.

You make 400. We do the same but faster.
You score 500. We do the same but faster.

You leave us 400 to chase. We chase it down.
 
The philosophy is simple.

England wants to give itself the best chance to be able to outbat India.

You make 400. We do the same but faster.
You score 500. We do the same but faster.

You leave us 400 to chase. We chase it down.
That's true. India does want to win badly. They aren't the team to settle for draws which other Asian teams(PK, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan) would settle for.

Chalo lets see
 
Its not of much use if he cannot win us tests with his bowling abroad which hasn't been the case.

I respect his efforts.
But he's got to win us more matches abroad.
We set too high expectations at times. There aren't many spinners who win matches in sena away conditions and there aren't many spin bowling all rounders who do it.

Jadeja has limits. But he is a human being. We shouldn't dismiss the areas where he is excellent because he is poor in some others. Otherwise there would be very very few players worthy of praise.
 
We set too high expectations at times. There aren't many spinners who win matches in sena away conditions and there aren't many spin bowling all rounders who do it.

Jadeja has limits. But he is a human being. We shouldn't dismiss the areas where he is excellent because he is poor in some others. Otherwise there would be very very few players worthy of praise.

Sanatanis are not supposed to be limited. Their potential is limitless.
 
Last time it'll happen brother. They are on my Ignore list now and I won't bother dealing or replying anymore.

I am too tired after causing issues for 2 years.
You are so brave, dude. Proper daler just like your cricketers 😂
 
We have done well to survive the first hour of the opening session.

I think you will see more shots being played now, can also result in some wickets soon.
 
This match regardless he is a lower tier ATG all rounder.

Honestly class player bro.
Personally I disagree. He isnt a bad player and I have said this multiple times before, but he is overrated due to pitch doctoring.

Outperforming others on doctored pitches isnt a big deal when you have played and practised on it the most while other sides will tour once in 2 years.

He is very average as a player otherwise.
 
Sky Sports Cricket’s Kumar Sangakkara:

"I don’t think it’s a bad thing for a spinner to be bowling early on, in any conditions in any form of cricket.

"Stokes has never been shy of that – he used to have Jack Leach come on really early as well.

"Bashir has improved accuracy, control and flight. He has worked hard on that and other variations, coming up with a carrom ball.

"I love spinners who evolve and add different deliveries to their armoury, which is so important when you play on flat pitches."
 
Personally I disagree. He isnt a bad player and I have said this multiple times before, but he is overrated due to pitch doctoring.

Outperforming others on doctored pitches isnt a big deal when you have played and practised on it the most while other sides will tour once in 2 years.

He is very average as a player otherwise.
Difference of opinion I guess.

If I had to pick a side and was given the option between jadeja and Sachin :sachin id take Jaddu.

Jaddu Bhai has three triple centuries in Ranji! Three! He is an Indian icon.
 
I trust you hence i was interested in knowing your batting approach.
It would depend on which team I am on.

If its india knowing that the bowling is useless without Bumrah I'd go dravid mode and just bat and bat and bat.

Id put india in a position they wouldn't be able to lose from and hope the scoreboard pressure causes England to collapse. That would be the best strategy.

Either way its a win or draw for India.

If I was england then bazzball and just mentally defeat them like how England did last game and how they did to Pakistan pre aqib
 
There was a famous dialogue from Kohli once where he said - "Shaam tak khelenge to inki...."

Getting that same feeling for England.

:kp :dw
 
There was a famous dialogue from Kohli once where he said - "Shaam tak khelenge to inki...."

Getting that same feeling for England.

:kp :dw
Reminds me of quote from saify Bhai when he motivated our team to trash England in semi final. He said they are a darpok team when under pressure.

Jaddu is hitting them hard here if he keeps going they will wilt under the pressure for sure.
 
Gill wanted to bowl first as well 😁
Bowling is a correct call as the pitch becomes easier and easier but unlike the 1st pitch this pitch is as flat as Pakistan pre aqib.

England could have easily tonked india for a 800 now that Bumrah aint playing.
 
Yes gill also needs to takes the wickets and catch of others fielders as well. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is only things expect from Tuktukraj fans. Don't worry he will never play any test or T20 cricket for india.

:kp
What more to expect from statpadder flat track bully puppet captain fans.

Don't worry you will have more days to hide on this forum when this puppet captain loses more matches.
 
Game is getting a little dull now, bring back greentops!
England will not give greentops as they relish on flat tracks. Considering likes of Kohli and Rohit retired, the startegy of England team was to Bazball their way and outbat India this series.
 
England will not give greentops as they relish on flat tracks. Considering likes of Kohli and Rohit retired, the startegy of England team was to Bazball their way and outbat India this series.
Yeah flatties will ofc be the norm as long as bazball is around but I do miss bowlers being more in the game in England
 
The short ball works. Jadeja is gone on 89* missing out on his 2nd test century at Edgbaston.
 
Just 10 minutes before end of session.

He will be kicking himself.
 
The short ball works. Jadeja is gone on 89* missing out on his 2nd test century at Edgbaston.
Loser cricketer. Flattest pitch in the world and he could have proven his worth. Worthless, Worthless, Worthless.
 
Its not of much use if he cannot win us tests with his bowling abroad which hasn't been the case.

I respect his efforts.
But he's got to win us more matches abroad.
He is 36 , not going to be around for too long btw .
 
All hail Sir Ravindra Jadeja!

One of those 89 that is much bigger than a hundred under extreme pressure and scrutiny with his critics demanding him to retire from international cricket and asking for his kidney and heart. This is why Jaddu is a special player and unarguably the best test all rounder since the great man :kallis
 
All hail Sir Ravindra Jadeja!

One of those 89 that is much bigger than a hundred under extreme pressure and scrutiny with his critics demanding him to retire from international cricket and asking for his kidney and heart. This is why Jaddu is a special player and unarguably the best test all rounder since the great man :kallis
Cricviz Test MVP of the 21st century. :inti
 
England must get Gill, do that and india will score more or less the same score that they did in 1st test
 
Gill should continue to hold one end until Washy Washy and Akashdeep are there.

Afterwards go mad. Siraj miyan gonna do DSP things.
 
This whole innings has all been luck. England have literally gotten wickets due to indian batters giving it away.

However england batters are more lethal. These butter fingers on the pitch aint doing squat vs England
 
How many of you think India can win this test in Bumrah's absence?? :kp

Would take a spirited effort. Sometimes its not about your ability but also about how soon will the opponent break. This is what we did actually in 1st test. We had more star performers but showed poor test match temperament as a team and allowed England to get one over us. They arent even that good either.
 
Well batted Jadeja.

Hope you finally turn a corner with ball too.
 
Imran Khan vs Sir Ravindra Jadeja comparison as batsman:-

Imran Khan

Matches - 88, Inn - 128, Runs 3807, Avg 37, 50+ scores - 24, NO - 25

Sir Ravindra Jadeja

Matches - 82*, Inn - 121, Runs 3495, Avg 35, 50+ scores - 27, NO - 22

Two giants of the game. :inti
 
Imran Khan vs Sir Ravindra Jadeja comparison as batsman:-

Imran Khan

Matches - 88, Inn - 128, Runs 3807, Avg 37, 50+ scores - 24, NO - 25

Sir Ravindra Jadeja

Matches - 82*, Inn - 121, Runs 3495, Avg 35, 50+ scores - 27, NO - 22

Two giants of the game. :inti
And Jadeja made that record without bottle tops too. What a guy :bow:
 
This is Gill's highest test score already. A nice opportunity for him now to register his 1st test double hundred. Will be special if it’s in England. Not many have done that.
He will reach their dw
 
Flat or not flat, it is going to be special achievement if Gill makes a double ton on his very first tour as captain! He can be persisted with as a long term (test) captain, but he needs to keep improving his strategies on field... It will be interesting to see how he goes about home test matches... I hope BCCI will provide semi-flat (not rank-turners) for couple of years till this young batting unit settles in... We should thank English Board for providing these pitches (even if we lose this series), this help improve the morale of our batsmen!
 
Gill has now scored the highest test score by an Indian captain in England.
 
If India win Bumrah should retire.
Why should he retire? Bumrah workload is important so Play accordingly to his fitness and no need to play him against Minnows team like Bangladesh and Lanka .

I want Bumrah to take 300 test wickets that's too without playing against minnow.

:kp
 
Yeah retire from test. Big ODI and T20 tournaments are still upcoming.
India should remodel their test approach... They should develop bowlers who can bowl like workhorses (even if its defensive... Ishant, Shami, Umesh...) and avoid depending on mystery bowlers who cannot even guarantee fitness to test cricket... We are probably going back to the era of batting dominant team...
 
This is Gill's highest test score already. A nice opportunity for him now to register his 1st test double hundred. Will be special if it’s in England. Not many have done that.
 
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