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Good solid start from England in the second innings. Both batters looks to bat a bit more aggressive than their first inning.
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We'll destroy the Poms with Dan on a spinning wicket.
There are plenty of 5th day pitches that don't offer anywhere near as much turn as this one is on Day 3. A look at the pitch maps of where Ohja and Ashwin are pitching it shows how well they're exploiting helpful conditions.
Although Bell's dismissal was reprehensible, I'm not going to criticise batsmen for getting out to quality bowling.
India batted well and scored lots of runs, but for most of the time they only had to face quality bowling at one end. That meant they only had to wait for the bad ball, which is exactly what they did. England have not faced many bad balls.
Give the man a chance! It's his Test debut and he won't have encountered anything like this before.
If there was a pitch offering this much turn in the County Championship, it would be graded as "poor" for offering "excessive turn," and the home side would be fined and have points deducted.
That's not a dig at subcontinental pitches, by the way, it's a dig at the ECB.
And that, in a nutshell, is why English batters these days have problems with spinners on turning wickets.
Gooch, Gower and Gatting would have all got centuries in this match.
And that, in a nutshell, is why English batters these days have problems with spinners on turning wickets.
Gooch, Gower and Gatting would have all got centuries in this match.
And that, in a nutshell, is why English batters these days have problems with spinners on turning wickets.
Gooch, Gower and Gatting would have all got centuries in this match.
All of them? I see. These gods of batting against spin would have played Ojha and Ashwin like they are club cricketers :rondu
At least England are getting the idea and trying to score. This game is lost but they can take some learnings into the next.
How about two batsmen pulling Dravid & VVS ? Pitch does not seem too bad but it will be hard to avoid defeat here.
Sure, India had better spinners in those days.
My point is that England batters used to go in India and succeed because they were brought up on turning wickets, but now they do not see such wickets, except maybe at the Oval on days 4 and 5.
Sure, India had better spinners in those days.
My point is that England batters used to go in India and succeed because they were brought up on turning wickets, but now they do not see such wickets, except maybe at the Oval on days 4 and 5.
There are no English batters of that quality.
They would be thinking why did the retire?They would have filled up their boots here.
Btw Dravid is a gun in commentary.
Of course. I never wished him to fail. He might do well on English tracks.
I was being sarcastic. They would have done better than this current bunch but saying all of them would have centuries here is exaggeration at its best.
They would be thinking why did the retire?They would have filled up their boots here.
Does anyone listening to the Indian commentary can sya what Ravi awnsered to the last question: How big a role Saeed Ajmal played on English batsman to playing spin bowling?
Well, I can show you a scorecard where England were at one point 500-2 in Madras, IIRC.....
I'm inclined to agree. Jimmy has looked OK but Bres is a yard down on pace and Broad wasn't even taking wickets in England after June. The Indian opening bowlers have looked sharper.
With England 56/0, how many in the SKY comm box are whining about the pitch being bad and how many are praising Cook and Compton.
Is he suggesting that England were good at playing spin before they ran into Ajmal?)
Well, I can show you a scorecard where England were at one point 500-2 in Madras, IIRC.....
Absolute howler by
Is it a coincidence that his extremely rare shockers are against India always?
The last real shocker I remember was on the bowling of Agarkar when he clearly got De Villiers out in the slips only forto rule him not out.
Pitch was never bad to begin with. This is only 3rd day of test match and pitch has not deteriorated so far. It was taking more turn than first day and nothing else.
But the problem is, Dan can't spin the bowl.
Azhar Ali gets more turn than him.
Yeah but tell that to the English fanboys who insist pitches like this are killing cricket. :rondu
Remember Dar killing our chances in an ODI series in England.. where he literally killed the match in the first 10 overs with his howlers.. !! Surely has something against India..
Pathetic umpiring.
Remember Dar killing our chances in an ODI series in England.. where he literally killed the match in the first 10 overs with his howlers.. !! Surely has something against India..
Pathetic umpiring.
In his youth he could give the ball a good rip. I miss those days.
Another controversy beckons
If England somehow manage to save this test, the Indian media will have a field day conspiring against![]()
Witch doctor should try and induce cook into driving, rather then sweeping.
Hope it doesnt happen. Just get on with it India.behavior today was dsgusting. Expect Sky to pick up more ammo on this
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You must be talking about this game
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63394.html
Look at the spin bowlers India had. Do you think they are better than Ojha and Ashwin. I dont think so. LSRK was good but you dont know your cricket if you think Yadav and Shastri are world class![]()
Yeah but he was finished years ago.
NZ have a habit of dragging players way past their expiry date.
Chris Harris, Kyle Mills, Jacob Oram, Vettori etc.
TBH Zaheer and Yadav have reversed the ball both ways and Yadav did it at 90MPH and even Zaheer was 85MPH.Thats the difference.They are trying to hit the pitch or pitch it right up and bending their back.The English bowlers did nothing of that sort.
Where is the crybaby when you need him most? :rondu
Yes, I think Laxman was better than these guys, and Yadav as good. Shastri did a good tight job as third spinner (second outside the Subcontinent). I don't think Ohja and Ashwin are world class.
You only call Yadav and Shastri good because you won and two of your batters scored 200. Nobody in India knwos who Shivlal Yadav is and most Indians hate tracer bullet and Lakshman "two men in the deep" Sivaramakrishnan for their rubbish cricket.
Ojha did better than Swann. So is Swann not world class. Then what about Jimmy, Broadie, Bressie. They turn into trundlers when there is no grass around.
Zaheer > Andersen, Broad, Bresnan. He knows how to take wickets in Indian tracks
Chef is a fantastic batsman no doubt.
Basically, we need to score another 500 runs. Nothing else to it.
Well, I can't help it if Indians can't remember what happened in the eighties, can I?
No, Swann is not world class either. He is merely 'good'.
Yep, Indians keep downplaying their attack and hyping their batting, but Zaheer and Yadav sure know which areas to bowl in these conditions. And that to top of that very good spin combo of Ashwin and Ojha. I loved Yadav and Zaheer consistently attacking the stumps looking for LBWs and clean bowleds. Contrast that with Bres and Broad bowling rubbish by having Prior standing up.Zaheer > Andersen, Broad, Bresnan. He knows how to take wickets in Indian tracks