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Indian forces have raped, molested more than 11,000 Kashmiri women in 3 decades: report

You can be whatever religion you want, you are also free to justify beat down of Sikhs in the Golden Temple, but that doesn't mean Kashmiris will justify rape of women in the valley by Indian soldiers. Kashmiri struggle has been ongoing for 50 years, 700,000 soldiers couldn't quell them, don't expect an end any time soon.

You can call it a beat down on whomsoever, I call it a beat down of a Terrorist group trying to break down my India. Religion does not matter. National Unity is all that matters, I have grown up and lived 100Kms on the Indian side of Punjab, lived through the riots and know the ground situations better then you ever will.

Kashmir is a Union territory in Republic of India, will remain so in future and will eventually become a state, in the Republic of India.
 
Indeed. Blatant lie if a Sikh calls operation Blue star a riot. Makes it a worse lie when said people claim thier family was in the Indian army.

I literally pointed out to you the guys were Major General in Indian Army, and proud Sikhs, who helped us take back control. Read about DSP of Punjab, in the 1990s, KP Singh, another Sikh who restored peace back in Punjab in those tumultuous times.

It is cute to make up stories sitting in Bartania when you have not lived the actual story. I have.

Religion may be the identity in your case, not the case of India. Being Indian is our identity as [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] has already pointed out.

At the end all i can say is :

"Lakh Pardesi hoiye.. Apna des ni bhuli daa.. jehde mulk da khaada usda bura ni mangi da"
 
The conflict in Kashmir has reached a stage where it is impossible to discern what is true and what isn't. Both sides claim that the other is the problem, or at least, that the other starts problems, but nobody knows for sure. This conflict has gone on for so long that most of us aren't arguing because we know why this fighting began, we are arguing and fighting just for the sake of it. You can't tell me that anyone with half an ounce of IQ doesn't see how pointless and pathetic this conflict is, and why it has gone on for so long without any ounce of professionalism displayed to step up and focus on the importance of human lives instead of political propaganda.

Kashmir was once a beautiful region, filled with natural beauty and a thriving population. Now, Kashmir is a word used by both Pakistani and Indian media to gain election votes and spread propaganda, which will not even change the course of the conflict in any way possible. The reason I'm saying this is because Kashmir, like other conflicts like Israel-Palestine and China with the Uyghur Muslims, is stuck in this incredibly devastating loop-hole, which I'll explain below:

Firstly, it is heavily politicized. Politicians use the word "Kashmir" as a way to get views and votes, but hardly do anything to support the region or its people.

Secondly, the conflict has been going on for a long time, and is at least a few generations old, which means that the involvement of the average person with that conflict is low. Most of you arguing on this thread have not the slightest care about the region but are instead just being highly patriotic and arguing for the sake of arguing. The average person in Pakistan, and the average person in India, has much larger problems to face than to focus on a conflict that isn't affecting them in any way possible. Both countries are riddled with poverty, and the pandemic hasn't been easy. Priorities for the average person have changed because there is a lot of stuff happening which needs their attention.

Thirdly, there is no dialogue between both sides because of stubborn leaders and toxic patriotism along with growing egos. For bragging rights, politicians on either side will do or say anything about the region, but will not be willing to help in any way. The increased militarization of the region supports this point, because both countries use each other as an excuse to fund military operations and also portray the other as the enemy. The purpose of this is quite simple: unite the local population against a common enemy to increase unity. It's really not that hard to see, and in fact, it has worked well for both sides so to speak.

Next, the biggest issue with this conflict is that neither side provides evidence towards their claims, and this further proves my point about the political nature of this conflict. In reality, neither side truly cares for the plight of the Kashmiris because they refuse to listen to and support them. I won't name specific examples, but you should be smart enough to know what I mean.

Lastly, this conflict is essentially in a loophole because of Pakistan and India's strategic economic ties and allies. Pakistan is partnered with China, whereas India has the support of the United States. Now, because of US-China tensions, both of those countries would prefer to stay away from the conflict, meaning that neither side would actually try and do something for a peaceful resolution. That leaves pretty much one option: to find a common ally and get them to mediate relations. The UAE tried doing this and failed quite terribly, so even this option is gone. Where the United Nations should have stepped in, they didn't, because they are a spineless organization that focuses on minor problems to act as if they have a purpose in this world, when they don't even fulfill their commitments regarding these conflicts.

The bottom line is that this conflict will seemingly end in two ways:

1) After Imran Khan and Narendra Modi leave power, we can hope that two new and different political parties come into power to discuss peace at the border.

2) Both sides will continue to fight and argue, and we will see more death and suffering for the Kashmiris.

At the end of the day, I feel bad for the Kashmiris. They didn't do anything wrong to deserve such suffering, and they are extremely unlucky to be in between a conflict between two of the most stubborn nations on the planet.

I will reiterate that I believe in only one outcome, which is the peaceful outcome resolved through dialogue.

There is no point in arguing on a topic like this, it is futile and a waste of time, because each side is not willing to look at what can be done, instead, they are focusing on what has happened, and enhancing the conflict further.
 
Has India started a war on Kashmir? No. India maintains the status quo and the LoC as per international law. One of the reasons why people dont believe the Pakistani propoganda.

US received assistance from India, as per the POTUS himself.

Unless you've been living in a hole, you'd know that BJP leadership has been vying to take back AJK from Pakistan, even so far as to claim GB and wanting to take that from Pakistan.
 
Unless you've been living in a hole, you'd know that BJP leadership has been vying to take back AJK from Pakistan, even so far as to claim GB and wanting to take that from Pakistan.

PoK consists of the entire region including GB. The map of Kashmir princely state as it was in 1947 includes GB. Since maharaja hari singh signed over the entire Kashmir, India has legal claim over entire PoK.

You can start by reading the maps of British India and the agreement of Brits with Maharaja of Kashmir taking GB on a lease.
 
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