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Lol at Arsenal fans here, calm down, you have not won PL yet.
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No one is saying we have won the PL, but it's nice to see salty Liverpool fans get a slap of reality again.
Worry about your own team not someone else's.
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Lol Loserpool lose again. 
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The most overrated team in premier league history with one league title in 30 years, yet their fans like to tell us they have the best centre back, best right back, best left back, best goalkeeper, best striker, best winger, best captain and best manager)
At the end of his time at Borussia Dortmund in his final season, Klopp finished mid table after spending most of the season in relegation zone. Liverpool are in need of a rebuild, but evident by his final seasons at Borussia Dortmund, Klopp isn't the best when it comes to rebuild.
) The most overrated team in premier league history with one league title in 30 years, yet their fans like to tell us they have the best centre back, best right back, best left back, best goalkeeper, best striker, best winger, best captain and best manager
)At the end of his time at Borussia Dortmund in his final season, Klopp finished mid table after spending most of the season in relegation zone. Liverpool are in need of a rebuild, but evident by his final seasons at Borussia Dortmund, Klopp isn't the best when it comes to rebuild.
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Looks like the Bus ran over liverpool, like it did Man City.
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Toney was in betting shop enjoying his winning bet of 3-1
Probably bet on himself missing the game after getting the results of his knee scan
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Missing person report [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] - reward for his safe return.
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And Man United.
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Toney was in betting shop enjoying his winning bet of 3-1
Ouch.
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You should be proud of your season so far.
That was only Ten Hag's second game as the manager. Since that game, we have only lost once in the league. In fact, in all competitions in the last 15 games, we have lost just once. Ten Hag has gotten us playing good football and we are getting the right results as well.
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Well, it’s been a long time since I saw the Bees - they were in a lower league and a different stadium.
But it’s great to see them more than hold their own in the top flight. Extraordinary that they have 26 points in just 18 games. Frank’s target must be an Europa League place now.
My old Dad must be looking down in pride - he was around the last like Brentford beat Liverpool.
Klopp bought Carvalho who he never plays. Our most expensive signing Darwin Nunez has been a disaster so far no matter how much certain fan's try to cover it. Jurgen did not really try to keep Sadio Mane either and now according to the media he seems to be suggesting a new midfielder is not required. Don't understand why he signed Cody Gakpo when a midfielder was of greater urgency. Either our rock n roll style of play has been found out or the current team is too old to play that way now.
Of all top sides the midfield is the worst. Curtis Jones well he just runs around offering nothing at all then there is Ox and Keita. I feel that the manager is using the owners as an excuse to cover his own errors of making poor signings, decisions and tactics. He to be obsessed in thinking that Jude Bellingham's possible signing in the summer will sort out all our problems. We need much, much more then that.
It is embarrassing to say the least being found out by Brentford. A few unimpressive wins during the holiday period does not cover the massive cracks in the side. Jurgen Klopp is facing the sack should this dross continue for a few more weeks.
Of all top sides the midfield is the worst. Curtis Jones well he just runs around offering nothing at all then there is Ox and Keita. I feel that the manager is using the owners as an excuse to cover his own errors of making poor signings, decisions and tactics. He to be obsessed in thinking that Jude Bellingham's possible signing in the summer will sort out all our problems. We need much, much more then that.
It is embarrassing to say the least being found out by Brentford. A few unimpressive wins during the holiday period does not cover the massive cracks in the side. Jurgen Klopp is facing the sack should this dross continue for a few more weeks.
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Liverpool’s defeat to Brentford shows why they have no chance of top four without new midfielder, says Jamie Carragher
Jamie Carragher believes Liverpool have "no chance" of finishing in the top four without a new midfielder after the defence that has been "a shambles all season" was cut through repeatedly in their 3-1 defeat to Brentford on Monday.
Jurgen Klopp's side were overpowered by Brentford at the Gtech Community Stadium, missing the chance to move up the table and leaving them sixth in the Premier League. Their former defender feels a big improvement is needed to make the top four.
"That has been a theme of Liverpool all season," Carragher told Sky Sports. "As soon as the intensity of a game rises they cannot cope. They need to play a slower type of game because as soon as it goes fast they are not at the races, they cannot keep up with it.
"Liverpool have had a problem all season against teams that are physical. This is a team, let us not forget, that prides itself on saying that intensity is our identity. They cannot cope with it anymore at this time. It looks like an ageing team coming to the end."
Although Liverpool's success has been built on their impressive recruitment, Carragher is frustrated that the problems in midfield have not been addressed - and fears that they are turning into a team that he does not recognise as a result.
"I don't know what has happened to Liverpool in terms of midfield. Liverpool have bought one midfield player in four-and-a-half years in Thiago. It is coming back to haunt them now.
"Thiago is not a problem if the other two are full of energy and stopping counter-attacks. People talk about Jude Bellingham but Liverpool don't have a problem going forward, they need a player to stop the opposition coming right through them.
"Harvey Elliott and Fabio Carvalho are great technical players but they don't look like Jurgen Klopp players. Fabinho is getting older. Jordan Henderson has not got the energy of old, James Milner.
"The transfer committee and Jurgen Klopp have been lauded more than any scouting or recruitment department in world football. This is on them.
"To allow a team that was competing for four trophies last season to be fighting for top four because the midfield has only had one signing in four years, they are absolutely running on fumes. How has it been allowed to happen?
"They have signed Cody Gakpo. If Liverpool think they can make top four without signing a midfield player in this window they have got no chance.
"When I watch Liverpool now, and certainly in midfield, it feels like Jurgen Klopp's team is morphing into something else.
"The only team it reminds me of is when I played against Arsenal under Arsene Wenger. Yes, they were a great football team. But their actual pace and physicality, teams could not cope with it. Then that team morphed into something really technical and they never won again.
"I don't know if there is an influence from Pep Lijnders, who is Klopp's number two and has a huge say in what goes on as well, maybe a Dutch way of thinking, getting players on the ball, thinking Liverpool need to keep tweaking things because people are used to them.
"For me, from minute one of Klopp's era against Tottenham, teams were sprinting all over the pitch. When I don't see Liverpool sprinting and closing down now and they are still playing with this high line it is like it is not a Liverpool team.
"It is not a Jurgen Klopp team now and I want to know why."
https://www.skysports.com/football/...-no-chance-of-top-four-without-new-midfielder
Jamie Carragher believes Liverpool have "no chance" of finishing in the top four without a new midfielder after the defence that has been "a shambles all season" was cut through repeatedly in their 3-1 defeat to Brentford on Monday.
Jurgen Klopp's side were overpowered by Brentford at the Gtech Community Stadium, missing the chance to move up the table and leaving them sixth in the Premier League. Their former defender feels a big improvement is needed to make the top four.
"That has been a theme of Liverpool all season," Carragher told Sky Sports. "As soon as the intensity of a game rises they cannot cope. They need to play a slower type of game because as soon as it goes fast they are not at the races, they cannot keep up with it.
"Liverpool have had a problem all season against teams that are physical. This is a team, let us not forget, that prides itself on saying that intensity is our identity. They cannot cope with it anymore at this time. It looks like an ageing team coming to the end."
Although Liverpool's success has been built on their impressive recruitment, Carragher is frustrated that the problems in midfield have not been addressed - and fears that they are turning into a team that he does not recognise as a result.
"I don't know what has happened to Liverpool in terms of midfield. Liverpool have bought one midfield player in four-and-a-half years in Thiago. It is coming back to haunt them now.
"Thiago is not a problem if the other two are full of energy and stopping counter-attacks. People talk about Jude Bellingham but Liverpool don't have a problem going forward, they need a player to stop the opposition coming right through them.
"Harvey Elliott and Fabio Carvalho are great technical players but they don't look like Jurgen Klopp players. Fabinho is getting older. Jordan Henderson has not got the energy of old, James Milner.
"The transfer committee and Jurgen Klopp have been lauded more than any scouting or recruitment department in world football. This is on them.
"To allow a team that was competing for four trophies last season to be fighting for top four because the midfield has only had one signing in four years, they are absolutely running on fumes. How has it been allowed to happen?
"They have signed Cody Gakpo. If Liverpool think they can make top four without signing a midfield player in this window they have got no chance.
"When I watch Liverpool now, and certainly in midfield, it feels like Jurgen Klopp's team is morphing into something else.
"The only team it reminds me of is when I played against Arsenal under Arsene Wenger. Yes, they were a great football team. But their actual pace and physicality, teams could not cope with it. Then that team morphed into something really technical and they never won again.
"I don't know if there is an influence from Pep Lijnders, who is Klopp's number two and has a huge say in what goes on as well, maybe a Dutch way of thinking, getting players on the ball, thinking Liverpool need to keep tweaking things because people are used to them.
"For me, from minute one of Klopp's era against Tottenham, teams were sprinting all over the pitch. When I don't see Liverpool sprinting and closing down now and they are still playing with this high line it is like it is not a Liverpool team.
"It is not a Jurgen Klopp team now and I want to know why."
https://www.skysports.com/football/...-no-chance-of-top-four-without-new-midfielder
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[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] - you still hiding? You were running your mouth a few days ago. Typical liverpool fan goes into hiding after a good beating.
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If Man Utd beat Bournemouth tonight, which is highly likely, then Liverpool will be 7 points off the top four pace.
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They have a game in hand on us so it's potentially only 4 points
However they do look vulnerable so not sure they have a 8-10 game winning run in them
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Liverpool centre-back Virgil van Dijk is to see a specialist to assess the extent of his hamstring injury.
The Netherlands defender, who has played in every Liverpool league game this season, was substituted at half-time in Monday's defeat at Brentford.
There is no timescale on how long Van Dijk will be out for but the injury appears worse than originally thought.
The Reds' other centre-back options are Joel Matip, Ibrahima Konate, Joe Gomez and Nathaniel Phillips.
Liverpool, who are sixth in the Premier League and seven points off the top four, face Wolverhampton Wanderers in the FA Cup third round on Saturday.
After the defeat by Brentford, Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp said: "Virgil felt a little bit the muscle and said it is fine, and he is a very good judge of these kind of things. But I didn't want to take any risks.
"The physios looked quite happy when I said we don't take risks. It's not an injury, he just felt the intensity."
Liverpool have been hampered by numerous injuries this season, with forwards Luis Diaz and Diogo Jota both working their way back to fitness following significant issues.
Their next league games are away to Brighton & Hove Albion on 14 January and at home to Chelsea on 21 January.
The Netherlands defender, who has played in every Liverpool league game this season, was substituted at half-time in Monday's defeat at Brentford.
There is no timescale on how long Van Dijk will be out for but the injury appears worse than originally thought.
The Reds' other centre-back options are Joel Matip, Ibrahima Konate, Joe Gomez and Nathaniel Phillips.
Liverpool, who are sixth in the Premier League and seven points off the top four, face Wolverhampton Wanderers in the FA Cup third round on Saturday.
After the defeat by Brentford, Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp said: "Virgil felt a little bit the muscle and said it is fine, and he is a very good judge of these kind of things. But I didn't want to take any risks.
"The physios looked quite happy when I said we don't take risks. It's not an injury, he just felt the intensity."
Liverpool have been hampered by numerous injuries this season, with forwards Luis Diaz and Diogo Jota both working their way back to fitness following significant issues.
Their next league games are away to Brighton & Hove Albion on 14 January and at home to Chelsea on 21 January.
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Klopp should have never neglected your midfield, you need at least 2 top class midfielders plus one other. Whole mechanics of your team has fallen apart as your midfield has no legs anymore.
Another thing could be Klopp's demanding training methods. His high energy style of play never allows a player to rest. This is why we always have so many injuries. I really think Jurgen Klopp is nearing the end of his tenure. His one dimensional tactics have been exposed and countered by other sides.
The high energy tactics worked some years back when Mane was at the top of his game pressurizing from the front. Klopp deciding to sell him was a terrible decision then brought in Nunez who doesn't play that way. The midfield is now aged unable to press like JK wants. Other teams have found us out as well, the likes of Hendo ineffective now. The midfield is old, injury prone and past it's sell by date.
Milner is a but a bit part player to say the least. Ox, Keita. Thiago are all injury prone unable to play for continuous period of time. Fabinho also looks past his prime where as Elliott and Jones are not good enough. Waiting to see if another injury prone Arthur Melo can really add something whenever he makes his debut. Don't know why JK even bought Fabio Carvalho when he never plays him.
This is the state of our midfield.
Milner is a but a bit part player to say the least. Ox, Keita. Thiago are all injury prone unable to play for continuous period of time. Fabinho also looks past his prime where as Elliott and Jones are not good enough. Waiting to see if another injury prone Arthur Melo can really add something whenever he makes his debut. Don't know why JK even bought Fabio Carvalho when he never plays him.
This is the state of our midfield.
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Of course the high intensity, press and energy style of play probably meant that every 2 out of 3 season you could go full pelt as a team and 1 season there would be a drop off. Your midfield would always be the ones the would squeeze teams in the middle and help you won the ball back quickly, also it would cover gaps when your full backs bombed forward etc.. but you look at the midfielders you have now they are:-
either on the decline - Thiago, fabinho, Henderson
Not good enough - Keita
Or not fully ready to play as many games as they are caravalho etc...
Teams pretty much stroll through the middle of you now and can get at your defence.
Losing wynaldum was a big one, plus the decline in players I mention. I think every top team needs a refresh of players every 3 o 4 years, instead klopps let the whole midfield collectively dip and not fix it.
As an Arsenal fan I know we havent ever replaced Vieira, Gilbert etc.. that's why we havent won a league since such players left. Liverpool now need there owners to splash out probably 150-200M to fix that issue, unless liverpool work transfer magic and find 3 new gems to play in midfield.
As soon as you fix your midfield you will be up their with city again.
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Liverpool defender Virgil van Dijk is "out for more than a month" with a hamstring problem, says manager Jurgen Klopp.
The Netherlands international was substituted at half-time in Monday's 3-1 Premier League defeat at Brentford.
Van Dijk, 31, has played in all of Liverpool's league matches this season.
"It was a surprise for us and a big blow. The diagnosis was pretty harsh," said Klopp before Saturday's FA Cup tie with Wolves.
"We talk about weeks, more than a month. It's a muscle thing - nothing different to say - it was one sprint too much in that moment.
"For Virgil, it is hard for him but he played an incredible amount of games over the last years and we cannot use him on the pitch, only off the pitch, and we will do that.
"He never had an issue with muscles before and it just now happened. That's how it is. We did nothing different.
Joel Matip, Ibrahima Konate, Joe Gomez and Nathaniel Phillips are Klopp's other options at centre-back.
In better news for Liverpool, midfielder Jordan Henderson is available once again after missing the Brentford game with concussion.
Klopp added on Henderson: "He did exactly what he was allowed to do yesterday - big parts of team training without heading.
"And from today on I think he's completely allowed to do everything."
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The Netherlands international was substituted at half-time in Monday's 3-1 Premier League defeat at Brentford.
Van Dijk, 31, has played in all of Liverpool's league matches this season.
"It was a surprise for us and a big blow. The diagnosis was pretty harsh," said Klopp before Saturday's FA Cup tie with Wolves.
"We talk about weeks, more than a month. It's a muscle thing - nothing different to say - it was one sprint too much in that moment.
"For Virgil, it is hard for him but he played an incredible amount of games over the last years and we cannot use him on the pitch, only off the pitch, and we will do that.
"He never had an issue with muscles before and it just now happened. That's how it is. We did nothing different.
Joel Matip, Ibrahima Konate, Joe Gomez and Nathaniel Phillips are Klopp's other options at centre-back.
In better news for Liverpool, midfielder Jordan Henderson is available once again after missing the Brentford game with concussion.
Klopp added on Henderson: "He did exactly what he was allowed to do yesterday - big parts of team training without heading.
"And from today on I think he's completely allowed to do everything."
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This guy
)Ive been on holiday.
Hope Im allowed esp as I have no desire to become famous by with 100k posts. Sadly most of you 100k have been attacks against Wenger )Brentford played very well, fully deserved to win. LFC are in transition this season but we will be back next season. Arsenal are having a one off season and you still dont believe in them winning the PL. HAve some faith in your team instead of getting joy off others who have dominated you for years now, having a dodgy time atm.
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This guy
Ive been on holiday.
Brentford played very well, fully deserved to win. LFC are in transition this season but we will be back next season. Arsenal are having a one off season and you still dont believe in them winning the PL. HAve some faith in your team instead of getting joy off others who have dominated you for years now, having a dodgy time atm.
On holiday?
Is that what it's called now when you went into hiding, I hope you had food, water and some daylight under that rock you ran off to and hide behind. Liverpool are in transition? You nearly won 4 trophies last season and now your in "transition"
) lame excuses.Oh and winning 1 PL title in 30 years is dominating is it?
You better go back on your holiday
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On holiday?
Liverpool are in transition? You nearly won 4 trophies last season and now your in "transition"
Oh and winning 1 PL title in 30 years is dominating is it?
You better go back on your holiday ����
You should also try getting out more .
Transition because we have a new attacking line up but you wouldnt understand this.
We have more titles than you can dream of and will never have more than us even if you get to 500k posts.
)Check the results against us in the last 5 years. You beat us 3-2 at home with a soft pen being the winning the goal and we are at are our worst while you havent played so well since you go to 200 posts.
Im going back soon, you can come too if Arsenal win the league but you wont put your money on your own team.
Every team has to have more then one style of playing. On their day a Barcalona would kill Liverpool if they played this high energy brand of Football.
Klopp was unprepared when Mane left and the midfield ageing like they are. Then why sign a Gakpo when he could have spent that money on a midfielder? He knows that we are not the wealthiest club in the world yet makes a stupid decision.
This is why I often argue that the FSG can not be held for every wrong decision made at the club. Here I must mention the departure of Michael Edwards who was a vital element in the Anfield machine. Since his departure we have gone downhill too.
I will give Nunez more time as well before calling for his head. In any new profession an employee needs time to adjust to the environment, surroundings and colleagues. But ya know before we signed him I didn't ever hear of how brilliant a player this guy was. This tells me we signed him on the back of a few good performances he had against us.
This season is a write off. As you say we need to invest heavily in our midfield during the summer. My hunch is that FSG will continue to play mind games with the fans by neither selling the club or bringing in new investors.
That could be so. Behind the scenes they are probably asking for a ridiculous price no one is willing to pay. Being American's they don't understand the love and emotion British fans have for their Football clubs.
Man Utd will be even more difficult to sell then Liverpool.
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They still can get top 4 so wouldnt write it off unless you meant the title.
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You should also try getting out more .
Transition because we have a new attacking line up but you wouldnt understand this.
We have more titles than you can dream of and will never have more than us even if you get to 500k posts.
Check the results against us in the last 5 years. You beat us 3-2 at home with a soft pen being the winning the goal and we are at are our worst while you havent played so well since you go to 200 posts.
Im going back soon, you can come too if Arsenal win the league but you wont put your money on your own team.
Wow so your still rambling like a 16 year old boy who doesnt have a clue about football.
Your attempts are cheap digs on posts counts and other person jibes are hilarious, at least come up with some thing that i havent heard before.
I am here all the time with team i support, i am not a fair weather fan boy like most liverpool fans who go into hiding after a few defeats.
keep enjoying your domination period of 1 title in 30 years, shows how deluded you are. You keep running back to same point of "we have won more trophies" simply because you havent got any intelligence to come up with anything else.
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Man United will be easier to sell because it is a far bigger club than Liverpool and so it will attract way more potential buyers.
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So it’s another day, and Liverpool are losing again.
0-1 down to Wolves (at Anfield) in the FA Cup after 25 minutes.
Another horrendous mixup at the back between the defenders and the goalkeeper.
Liverpool at home are still favourites to come back and win this game, but it’s the sloppiness and messiness that seems to be persistently haunting them this season.
0-1 down to Wolves (at Anfield) in the FA Cup after 25 minutes.
Another horrendous mixup at the back between the defenders and the goalkeeper.
Liverpool at home are still favourites to come back and win this game, but it’s the sloppiness and messiness that seems to be persistently haunting them this season.
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I'm sure [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] will be on "another holiday" if Liverpool lose today
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Great equaliser from Nunez, that was deft.
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Alexander-Arnold looks to have come back into form at a good time for Liverpool.
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Farcical decision by the ref. Wolves robbed. It should have been 3-2.
If this happened against Klopp he would be crying left right & center.
Liverpool looking pathetic as usual. Finished squad, finished manager. Liverpool need a reset.
If this happened against Klopp he would be crying left right & center.
Liverpool looking pathetic as usual. Finished squad, finished manager. Liverpool need a reset.
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VAR again.
Liverpool lucky not to be 3-2 down.
Any side, even a top side can lose a game of football away from home.
But they are struggling to beat teams even at Anfield now.
Liverpool lucky not to be 3-2 down.
Any side, even a top side can lose a game of football away from home.
But they are struggling to beat teams even at Anfield now.
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Liverpool and Wolves were forced to settle for an FA Cup third-round replay after a thrilling encounter finished level at Anfield.
Wolves led after Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson horrifically gave the ball away and Goncalo Guedes tapped home.
Darwin Nunez's classy left-footed volley pulled Liverpool level, before Mohamed Salah side-footed them ahead.
Hwang Hee-chan then came off the bench to earn Wolves a replay, with the ball ricocheting in off his side.
Wolves thought they had won the game when Toti flicked home, but the linesman had ruled it offside earlier in the move.
A replay is likely to anger Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp, who reiterated his opposition to them as recently as Friday.
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Wolves led after Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson horrifically gave the ball away and Goncalo Guedes tapped home.
Darwin Nunez's classy left-footed volley pulled Liverpool level, before Mohamed Salah side-footed them ahead.
Hwang Hee-chan then came off the bench to earn Wolves a replay, with the ball ricocheting in off his side.
Wolves thought they had won the game when Toti flicked home, but the linesman had ruled it offside earlier in the move.
A replay is likely to anger Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp, who reiterated his opposition to them as recently as Friday.
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LiVARpool have looked average this season, and I think its because there was so much hype and hope on the quadruple dream last season, and since they didn't achieve that, they look like they are still recovering from that failed dream. I am not being salty by the way, this is what I genuinely believe.
Its hard to recover from things like this. Another example is Argentina, after losing a three consecutive finals in 2014 - 2016, they were awful for the next three years until Lionel Scaloni came in and did an amazing job.
Its hard to recover from things like this. Another example is Argentina, after losing a three consecutive finals in 2014 - 2016, they were awful for the next three years until Lionel Scaloni came in and did an amazing job.
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VAR helping liverpool as usual, nothing ever changes. Wolves robbed of a deserved win.
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<b>Liverpool 2-2 Wolves: Julen Lopetegui says it is 'impossible' potential winner was ruled out</b>
Wolverhampton Wanderers boss Julen Lopetegui says it is "impossible" that his side had a potential winning goal ruled out in their FA Cup third-round draw with Liverpool at Anfield.
Centre-back Toti flicked home, but the assistant referee had his flag up for offside against Matheus Nunes, who had taken the original corner and picked up the ball on the left after Hwang Hee-chan nudged it back to the wing.
The video assistant referee (VAR) had no camera angle available to provide any evidence to overturn the decision, meaning Wolves had to settle for a 2-2 draw.
Lopetegui, who went into referee Andrew Madley's room with captain Ruben Neves after the game, said the offside "doesn't exist" and that it was a "pity" because his players "deserved to pass to the next round".
He was also angry that Mohamed Salah's goal, which put Liverpool 2-1 ahead, was allowed to stand, despite the Egypt forward appearing to be in an offside position when the ball was played to him during the build-up.
Starting with Wolves' disallowed goal, Nunes took a corner that was headed by Nathan Collins, and then flicked by Hwang back to Nunes on the left wing.
He dribbled to the byeline, and his cross was deflected to Hwang, whose shot was turned in by Toti to put Wolves, who had led 1-0 before being pegged back, 3-2 up.
The Wolves players celebrated wildly, with Toti taking his shirt off, but the assistant had his flag up.
The VAR then reviewed the incident, but had no clear camera angle to overturn the decision.
Speaking to ITV, Lopetegui said: "We have seen it, the offside doesn't exist, I'm sorry. It's impossible.
"Someone has told him it's offside, but we've seen the images, it doesn't exist.
"The decision is wrong. I make mistakes every day, and sometimes they do too. Today we have the help of VAR, and it is a pity, because I'm sorry, it's not offside."
Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp said: "I'm not sure about their third goal. We have one picture where it may look offside, but I can understand why they are angry about it. We don't want the VAR to just have one angle."
In the Premier League, an explanation such as "Nunes offside" would be displayed on the screen in the ground, but the Football Association, which runs the FA Cup, follows Uefa and Fifa guidance and does not do this, which caused confusion in the crowd and among pundits.
"We sat in the studio trying to figure out, so are the crowd and the bench," said former Liverpool striker Emile Heskey on ITV.
Former England striker Eni Aluko added: "State-of-the-art stadiums - just show it in on the screen. The clarity needs to be there.
"It is offside, Nunes was in an offside position, but that wasn't initially clear. Now we have the decision but it has to be clearer."
Wolves and Lopetegui were already annoyed that Salah's goal had been allowed to stand.
The forward was in an offside position as Cody Gapko tried to clip over the top of the Wolves defence, but Toti headed the ball in an attempt to stop the attack.
That meant Salah was onside, and he controlled the ball and slotted home to put Liverpool ahead.
Lopetegui said: "It is the same in all the leagues. My opinion is we have to talk a lot with the referees about this sort of situation.
"One player took advantage of his position, Salah was offside before Toti touched the ball, so he got an advantage. Toti, of course, is only going for it because of the offside player."
Former Liverpool defender Stephen Warnock told BBC Match of the Day: "It is very frustrating. The laws of the game say the goal should stand but football fans know it should not stand. Toti has to deal with it because he has to believe Salah is onside. The law is wrong in our opinion."
Asked by BBC Match of the Day about whether Salah's goal should have been disallowed and Toti's allowed, he said: "In my opinion, yes. That is my clear opinion now."
Lopetegui added that referee Madley "heard us", explaining: "That is a good thing for me, that is not usual in Spain. I love talking, only to show him the offside doesn't exist. It is very clear."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64200938
Wolverhampton Wanderers boss Julen Lopetegui says it is "impossible" that his side had a potential winning goal ruled out in their FA Cup third-round draw with Liverpool at Anfield.
Centre-back Toti flicked home, but the assistant referee had his flag up for offside against Matheus Nunes, who had taken the original corner and picked up the ball on the left after Hwang Hee-chan nudged it back to the wing.
The video assistant referee (VAR) had no camera angle available to provide any evidence to overturn the decision, meaning Wolves had to settle for a 2-2 draw.
Lopetegui, who went into referee Andrew Madley's room with captain Ruben Neves after the game, said the offside "doesn't exist" and that it was a "pity" because his players "deserved to pass to the next round".
He was also angry that Mohamed Salah's goal, which put Liverpool 2-1 ahead, was allowed to stand, despite the Egypt forward appearing to be in an offside position when the ball was played to him during the build-up.
Starting with Wolves' disallowed goal, Nunes took a corner that was headed by Nathan Collins, and then flicked by Hwang back to Nunes on the left wing.
He dribbled to the byeline, and his cross was deflected to Hwang, whose shot was turned in by Toti to put Wolves, who had led 1-0 before being pegged back, 3-2 up.
The Wolves players celebrated wildly, with Toti taking his shirt off, but the assistant had his flag up.
The VAR then reviewed the incident, but had no clear camera angle to overturn the decision.
Speaking to ITV, Lopetegui said: "We have seen it, the offside doesn't exist, I'm sorry. It's impossible.
"Someone has told him it's offside, but we've seen the images, it doesn't exist.
"The decision is wrong. I make mistakes every day, and sometimes they do too. Today we have the help of VAR, and it is a pity, because I'm sorry, it's not offside."
Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp said: "I'm not sure about their third goal. We have one picture where it may look offside, but I can understand why they are angry about it. We don't want the VAR to just have one angle."
In the Premier League, an explanation such as "Nunes offside" would be displayed on the screen in the ground, but the Football Association, which runs the FA Cup, follows Uefa and Fifa guidance and does not do this, which caused confusion in the crowd and among pundits.
"We sat in the studio trying to figure out, so are the crowd and the bench," said former Liverpool striker Emile Heskey on ITV.
Former England striker Eni Aluko added: "State-of-the-art stadiums - just show it in on the screen. The clarity needs to be there.
"It is offside, Nunes was in an offside position, but that wasn't initially clear. Now we have the decision but it has to be clearer."
Wolves and Lopetegui were already annoyed that Salah's goal had been allowed to stand.
The forward was in an offside position as Cody Gapko tried to clip over the top of the Wolves defence, but Toti headed the ball in an attempt to stop the attack.
That meant Salah was onside, and he controlled the ball and slotted home to put Liverpool ahead.
Lopetegui said: "It is the same in all the leagues. My opinion is we have to talk a lot with the referees about this sort of situation.
"One player took advantage of his position, Salah was offside before Toti touched the ball, so he got an advantage. Toti, of course, is only going for it because of the offside player."
Former Liverpool defender Stephen Warnock told BBC Match of the Day: "It is very frustrating. The laws of the game say the goal should stand but football fans know it should not stand. Toti has to deal with it because he has to believe Salah is onside. The law is wrong in our opinion."
Asked by BBC Match of the Day about whether Salah's goal should have been disallowed and Toti's allowed, he said: "In my opinion, yes. That is my clear opinion now."
Lopetegui added that referee Madley "heard us", explaining: "That is a good thing for me, that is not usual in Spain. I love talking, only to show him the offside doesn't exist. It is very clear."
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That is gonna be very difficult too.
Bigger perhaps but not much bigger. They will be harder to sell because the buyer needs more money. Liverpool are more successful then Man Utd on the field that is an attraction in itself.
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Jurgen Klopp gets frustrated when pressed more about whether Liverpool will bring in new players in January:
"Come on, do I need to tell you again the money story? Why ask the question? We just have to get through until the boys come back (from injury). The transfer market for us in this moment is not the solution.
"I think I've had 6,000 press conferences at Liverpool. If you want to write about this, come on."
"Come on, do I need to tell you again the money story? Why ask the question? We just have to get through until the boys come back (from injury). The transfer market for us in this moment is not the solution.
"I think I've had 6,000 press conferences at Liverpool. If you want to write about this, come on."
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What's happening to Liverpool? Any ideas?
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Finished team, finished manager. ) 
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[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] - time for another one of your holidays, i heard Brighton has really good beaches.
Winning away to Brighton isnt for everyone
Winning away to Brighton isnt for everyone
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Major transitional season at Liverpool.
Having some tough games.
Having some tough games.
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Midfield issues. A couple of fellas have lost a step, so they can’t press like they did last season.
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Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp says his struggling team need to go "back to basics" to improve their form.
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Liverpool are still in talks with Roberto Firmino over a new short-term contract, and the 31-year-old Brazil forward says he intends to stay at the club. (Fabrizio Romano)
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Liverpool v Chelsea (12:30 GMT)
In his 1,000th game as a manager, Jurgen Klopp makes three changes to the Liverpool side that beat Wolves in the FA Cup on Tuesday, with 18-year-old Stefan Bajcetic keeping his place in midfield.
Alisson, Andy Robertson and Mohamed Salah come into the starting line-up while the fit-again Darwin Nunez is on the bench after missing the last two games.
James Milner starts at right-back with Trent Alexander-Arnold named among the substitutes.
Liverpool XI: Alisson, Milner, Konate, Gomez, Robertson, Bajcetic, Keita, Thiago, Elliott, Salah, Gakpo.
Subs: Kelleher, Fabinho, Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jones, Tsimikas, Nunez, Matip, Alexander-Arnold.
In his 1,000th game as a manager, Jurgen Klopp makes three changes to the Liverpool side that beat Wolves in the FA Cup on Tuesday, with 18-year-old Stefan Bajcetic keeping his place in midfield.
Alisson, Andy Robertson and Mohamed Salah come into the starting line-up while the fit-again Darwin Nunez is on the bench after missing the last two games.
James Milner starts at right-back with Trent Alexander-Arnold named among the substitutes.
Liverpool XI: Alisson, Milner, Konate, Gomez, Robertson, Bajcetic, Keita, Thiago, Elliott, Salah, Gakpo.
Subs: Kelleher, Fabinho, Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jones, Tsimikas, Nunez, Matip, Alexander-Arnold.
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Liverpool lack intensity
The quality of this game was reflected in the subdued atmosphere at Anfield, with the final whistle greeted with near silence apart from some very mild applause.
Liverpool have made their reputation and based their success under manager Jurgen Klopp not simply on world-class talent but on a searing intensity that has seen teams simply blown away.
They currently look a shadow of that side in every respect - admittedly deprived of attacking talent such as Luis Diaz, Diogo Jota and Roberto Firmino - and there were very few alarms for Chelsea and no serious work for keeper Kepa.
"We had good spells but couldn't keep it up," Klopp told BT Sport.
"We have to be ready for little steps and this is a little step. A clean sheet against Chelsea, we didn't create a lot of chances and they had some as well.
"In the end, I'm OK with 0-0 because you have to accept these steps. We can build on that."
Liverpool's new signing Gakpo seems to be in a settling-in period, which is perfectly understandable, and he struggled to make an impact apart from one shot on the turn that brought a comfortable save from Kepa in front of The Kop.
Klopp's side are now nine points off the Champions League places and it is clear they need to find that missing spark - and quickly - if they are to get anywhere near the top four.
The quality of this game was reflected in the subdued atmosphere at Anfield, with the final whistle greeted with near silence apart from some very mild applause.
Liverpool have made their reputation and based their success under manager Jurgen Klopp not simply on world-class talent but on a searing intensity that has seen teams simply blown away.
They currently look a shadow of that side in every respect - admittedly deprived of attacking talent such as Luis Diaz, Diogo Jota and Roberto Firmino - and there were very few alarms for Chelsea and no serious work for keeper Kepa.
"We had good spells but couldn't keep it up," Klopp told BT Sport.
"We have to be ready for little steps and this is a little step. A clean sheet against Chelsea, we didn't create a lot of chances and they had some as well.
"In the end, I'm OK with 0-0 because you have to accept these steps. We can build on that."
Liverpool's new signing Gakpo seems to be in a settling-in period, which is perfectly understandable, and he struggled to make an impact apart from one shot on the turn that brought a comfortable save from Kepa in front of The Kop.
Klopp's side are now nine points off the Champions League places and it is clear they need to find that missing spark - and quickly - if they are to get anywhere near the top four.
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Merseyside Police arrested three men for alleged homophobic chanting during Liverpool's draw with Chelsea.
One was arrested inside Anfield and two outside the ground for three separate incidents on Saturday.
The men, aged 23, 37 and 49, were arrested on suspicion of homophobic intentional harassment, alarm or distress.
The 37-year-old has been bailed pending further enquiries, and the other two men will attend a voluntary interview.
The Premier League match ended in a goalless draw.
The Football Association (FA) can now charge clubs if their fans use a homophobic chant that has been aimed at Chelsea players and supporters.
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One was arrested inside Anfield and two outside the ground for three separate incidents on Saturday.
The men, aged 23, 37 and 49, were arrested on suspicion of homophobic intentional harassment, alarm or distress.
The 37-year-old has been bailed pending further enquiries, and the other two men will attend a voluntary interview.
The Premier League match ended in a goalless draw.
The Football Association (FA) can now charge clubs if their fans use a homophobic chant that has been aimed at Chelsea players and supporters.
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Chelsea doing poorly are spending hundred's of millions this month. We have only signed Gakpo for £45 million or something. This shows the complete lack of ambition by FSG neither are they interested in selling the club. Jurgen has become a yes man who is to scared to disagree with the owners. Everton have sacked Lampard where as our manager doesn't even have the guts to ask the owners what's going on.
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Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp: Trophies and finals at end of tunnel if struggling Reds work hard
Jurgen Klopp has seen signs of progress from Liverpool in their past two games but insists hard work and time are needed to recapture their previous highs.
The Reds are down in ninth place in the Premier League and suffered a bruising 3-0 defeat at Brighton earlier this month. But, ahead of their return to the Amex for a fourth-round FA Cup tie on Sunday, Liverpool secured a 1-0 cup win at Wolves and 0-0 draw with Chelsea to rediscover some confidence.
However, Klopp is still without a number of injured key players, including Virgil van Dijk, Diogo Jota, Roberto Firmino and Luis Diaz, and is under no illusions about the hard yards his players will have to go through before they can get back to the kind of levels that saw them challenging for four trophies last season.
"From here in this building we are 100 per cent ready to work through that," he said.
"I wish everything would be easy again, and we qualify for finals at the end of the season. But I experienced different things in my life, not all of them super positive, but the only thing I know is the better and clearer you behave in your down moments the better will be the high moments after that.
"You have to be respectful, show the right things, criticise but not going mad. You have to go through it and then there's not only light at the end of the tunnel, there are finals and trophies at the end of the tunnel. That's all there. Not now.
"The only problem you have in life is time - no one wants to invest time into that. This situation is not perfect but the basis of the last two games is something I can really work with."
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Jurgen Klopp has seen signs of progress from Liverpool in their past two games but insists hard work and time are needed to recapture their previous highs.
The Reds are down in ninth place in the Premier League and suffered a bruising 3-0 defeat at Brighton earlier this month. But, ahead of their return to the Amex for a fourth-round FA Cup tie on Sunday, Liverpool secured a 1-0 cup win at Wolves and 0-0 draw with Chelsea to rediscover some confidence.
However, Klopp is still without a number of injured key players, including Virgil van Dijk, Diogo Jota, Roberto Firmino and Luis Diaz, and is under no illusions about the hard yards his players will have to go through before they can get back to the kind of levels that saw them challenging for four trophies last season.
"From here in this building we are 100 per cent ready to work through that," he said.
"I wish everything would be easy again, and we qualify for finals at the end of the season. But I experienced different things in my life, not all of them super positive, but the only thing I know is the better and clearer you behave in your down moments the better will be the high moments after that.
"You have to be respectful, show the right things, criticise but not going mad. You have to go through it and then there's not only light at the end of the tunnel, there are finals and trophies at the end of the tunnel. That's all there. Not now.
"The only problem you have in life is time - no one wants to invest time into that. This situation is not perfect but the basis of the last two games is something I can really work with."
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Gets worse for LFC:
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FT: Brighton 2-1 Liverpool
Kaoru Mitoma scored in stoppage time as Brighton knocked holders Liverpool out of the FA Cup with an impressive victory at the Amex.
With the game heading to a draw, Japan winger Mitoma produced a great piece of control before firing in from close range to stun the Reds.
Jurgen Klopp's side, who were beaten 3-0 at the Seagulls two weeks ago, took the lead midway through the first half when Harvey Elliott slotted into the bottom corner from Mohamed Salah's pass following a quick break.
However, Brighton equalised when Tariq Lamptey's shot from distance deflected heavily off Lewis Dunk to fly into the back of the net.
It looked like a replay at Anfield would be needed to decide the tie before Mitoma stepped up to snatch another big result for Brighton.
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FT: Brighton 2-1 Liverpool
Kaoru Mitoma scored in stoppage time as Brighton knocked holders Liverpool out of the FA Cup with an impressive victory at the Amex.
With the game heading to a draw, Japan winger Mitoma produced a great piece of control before firing in from close range to stun the Reds.
Jurgen Klopp's side, who were beaten 3-0 at the Seagulls two weeks ago, took the lead midway through the first half when Harvey Elliott slotted into the bottom corner from Mohamed Salah's pass following a quick break.
However, Brighton equalised when Tariq Lamptey's shot from distance deflected heavily off Lewis Dunk to fly into the back of the net.
It looked like a replay at Anfield would be needed to decide the tie before Mitoma stepped up to snatch another big result for Brighton.
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Strong words from Andy Robertson in an interview with ITV.
The defender says Liverpool have been "nowhere good enough" this season. "It's so disappointing," he adds.
"It's bitterly disappointing. It's hard to take."
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Liverpools end of season party in a few weeks when Real knock them out of the CL.
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Liverpool fans were dreaming of witnessing history this time last year, with the Reds in the hunt for a quadruple of trophy wins that is unprecedented in the English game.
It is a very different story now, with Jurgen Klopp's side down to one chance of silverware this season - and facing an uphill battle to make the top four.
They are ninth in the Premier League - 21 points behind leaders Arsenal and 10 off the Champions League places - while their FA Cup defence was ended in dramatic fashion by Brighton's 92nd-minute winner.
It was the second time in as many weeks they had lost at Brighton, who are three places above them in the league.
"This season has been nowhere near good enough," stand-in captain Andy Robertson told ITV Sport after Kaoru Mitoma's brilliant added-time winner.
"At the start of the year, we wanted a fresh start but that hasn't happened - we've been worse. In the league, we haven't been good enough and now we're out of both cups."
What's gone wrong for Liverpool?
The exhausting schedule in pursuit of the quadruple last season has surely played its part in the struggle. A 63-game season - with every game having so much riding on it - would take its toll on any team.
The impact appears to have been psychological as well as physical, with Reds midfielder Thiago Alcantara admitting recently that coming so close to winning all four trophies - they won the League Cup and FA Cup but missed out on the Premier League on the final day and were beaten in the Champions League final - was hard to take.
Injuries have also played their part, with Klopp rarely able to field his strongest XI; the defence that faced Real Madrid in the showpiece Paris final has played together once this term.
Mohamed Salah has not had the threat or effectiveness of previous seasons - although he also had a quieter second half to last term, prior to signing a lucrative new contract in the close season.
His former colleagues in the front three that was so deadly for Klopp are either rarely getting a run of games - in Roberto Firmino's case - or sold, as Sadio Mane was to Bayern Munich in the summer.
The injured Luis Diaz, so dangerous since signing last January from Porto, is a big miss and £85m summer recruit Darwin Nunez has yet to totally convince.
The industry of the midfield that almost drove the Reds to the historic quadruple suddenly looks laborious and one-paced just a few months later while the younger midfielders - Naby Keita and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - have never consistently impressed at Anfield.
Klopp preferred to play 18-year-old Stefan Bajcetic over captain Jordan Henderson, vice-captain James Milner, stalwart Fabinho and Oxlade-Chamberlain against Brighton, just as he had last weekend against Chelsea.
Still, the squad and the manager surely possess enough quality to have won only one of their six games so far in 2023.
"You can't put your finger on one thing, it's more than that," added Robertson. "You can tell we're not as confident in front of goal and in defence we are a wee bit open. We had two clean sheets coming into today but then go and concede two goals.
"We need to get the confidence back, it's easier said than done, and that's how we will get results."
Liverpool need that confidence back quickly as they head into a big month.
In February they face city rivals Everton, Champions League-chasing Newcastle United and holders Real Madrid in the Champions League.
Despite believing there were positives to take from the Brighton game, Klopp accepts his side needs to be better.
"We have to improve, body language, a couple of boys have to do much better," he said.
"But last game here we couldn't have won. I think today nobody would have been surprised if we had won the game."
Prior to the FA Cup tie Klopp defended himself amid Liverpool's struggles, insisting he has not become a bad manager overnight, but it will take all of his managerial nous to prevent the season after one of the greatest campaigns in the club's history from being a huge disappointment.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64447208
It is a very different story now, with Jurgen Klopp's side down to one chance of silverware this season - and facing an uphill battle to make the top four.
They are ninth in the Premier League - 21 points behind leaders Arsenal and 10 off the Champions League places - while their FA Cup defence was ended in dramatic fashion by Brighton's 92nd-minute winner.
It was the second time in as many weeks they had lost at Brighton, who are three places above them in the league.
"This season has been nowhere near good enough," stand-in captain Andy Robertson told ITV Sport after Kaoru Mitoma's brilliant added-time winner.
"At the start of the year, we wanted a fresh start but that hasn't happened - we've been worse. In the league, we haven't been good enough and now we're out of both cups."
What's gone wrong for Liverpool?
The exhausting schedule in pursuit of the quadruple last season has surely played its part in the struggle. A 63-game season - with every game having so much riding on it - would take its toll on any team.
The impact appears to have been psychological as well as physical, with Reds midfielder Thiago Alcantara admitting recently that coming so close to winning all four trophies - they won the League Cup and FA Cup but missed out on the Premier League on the final day and were beaten in the Champions League final - was hard to take.
Injuries have also played their part, with Klopp rarely able to field his strongest XI; the defence that faced Real Madrid in the showpiece Paris final has played together once this term.
Mohamed Salah has not had the threat or effectiveness of previous seasons - although he also had a quieter second half to last term, prior to signing a lucrative new contract in the close season.
His former colleagues in the front three that was so deadly for Klopp are either rarely getting a run of games - in Roberto Firmino's case - or sold, as Sadio Mane was to Bayern Munich in the summer.
The injured Luis Diaz, so dangerous since signing last January from Porto, is a big miss and £85m summer recruit Darwin Nunez has yet to totally convince.
The industry of the midfield that almost drove the Reds to the historic quadruple suddenly looks laborious and one-paced just a few months later while the younger midfielders - Naby Keita and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - have never consistently impressed at Anfield.
Klopp preferred to play 18-year-old Stefan Bajcetic over captain Jordan Henderson, vice-captain James Milner, stalwart Fabinho and Oxlade-Chamberlain against Brighton, just as he had last weekend against Chelsea.
Still, the squad and the manager surely possess enough quality to have won only one of their six games so far in 2023.
"You can't put your finger on one thing, it's more than that," added Robertson. "You can tell we're not as confident in front of goal and in defence we are a wee bit open. We had two clean sheets coming into today but then go and concede two goals.
"We need to get the confidence back, it's easier said than done, and that's how we will get results."
Liverpool need that confidence back quickly as they head into a big month.
In February they face city rivals Everton, Champions League-chasing Newcastle United and holders Real Madrid in the Champions League.
Despite believing there were positives to take from the Brighton game, Klopp accepts his side needs to be better.
"We have to improve, body language, a couple of boys have to do much better," he said.
"But last game here we couldn't have won. I think today nobody would have been surprised if we had won the game."
Prior to the FA Cup tie Klopp defended himself amid Liverpool's struggles, insisting he has not become a bad manager overnight, but it will take all of his managerial nous to prevent the season after one of the greatest campaigns in the club's history from being a huge disappointment.
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Liverpool's Ibrahima Konate has been ruled out for up to three weeks with a hamstring injury following Sunday's 2-1 FA Cup defeat at Brighton.
The France defender, 23, is expected to miss Premier League games against Wolves, Everton and Newcastle.
He could also be a doubt for the Champions League last-16 first leg against Real Madrid on 21 February.
Liverpool are currently without Virgil van Dijk, Luis Diaz, Roberto Firmino and Diogo Jota.
Netherlands defender Van Dijk was ruled out for more than a month with a hamstring problem at the start of January.
The situation may scupper a potential deadline-day move by Nat Phillips, who has been linked with Turkish club Galatasaray, while centre-back Rhys Williams was recalled from a loan spell at Blackpool this month.
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The France defender, 23, is expected to miss Premier League games against Wolves, Everton and Newcastle.
He could also be a doubt for the Champions League last-16 first leg against Real Madrid on 21 February.
Liverpool are currently without Virgil van Dijk, Luis Diaz, Roberto Firmino and Diogo Jota.
Netherlands defender Van Dijk was ruled out for more than a month with a hamstring problem at the start of January.
The situation may scupper a potential deadline-day move by Nat Phillips, who has been linked with Turkish club Galatasaray, while centre-back Rhys Williams was recalled from a loan spell at Blackpool this month.
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[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] - time for another one of your holidays, i heard Brighton has really good beaches.
Winning away to Brighton isnt for everyone
Time for another holiday after losing away to Brighton again.
According to him, he's a better footballer than all of us because he plays for the Alum Rock Mirpuri Cab League (ARMCL)
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Liverpool's woes continue
After taking the Premier League title race to the final day last season, few could have predicted the level of drop-off in Liverpool's performances.
The Reds started the day 21 points off the top of the table having yet to taste victory in the Premier League in 2023.
A solid draw against Chelsea in their last league outing showed promise, but their performance in the first half of this game was as bad as they have produced in this hugely disappointing campaign.
Fabinho had been dropped by Klopp as he looked to stop the rot, but few of the starting XI emerged from the first 45 minutes with much credit and looked lethargic.
The Reds were better after the break, but by then the damage was done and this latest away defeat leaves them clinging on to a place in the top half of the table.
After taking the Premier League title race to the final day last season, few could have predicted the level of drop-off in Liverpool's performances.
The Reds started the day 21 points off the top of the table having yet to taste victory in the Premier League in 2023.
A solid draw against Chelsea in their last league outing showed promise, but their performance in the first half of this game was as bad as they have produced in this hugely disappointing campaign.
Fabinho had been dropped by Klopp as he looked to stop the rot, but few of the starting XI emerged from the first 45 minutes with much credit and looked lethargic.
The Reds were better after the break, but by then the damage was done and this latest away defeat leaves them clinging on to a place in the top half of the table.
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