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I’m sure Tendulkar still gets sleepless nights about it when Dravid and Ganguly exposed his selfish stat padding.Seems like Multan 2004 still hurts
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I’m sure Tendulkar still gets sleepless nights about it when Dravid and Ganguly exposed his selfish stat padding.Seems like Multan 2004 still hurts
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@kron
How embarrassing is this. You would think that Kohli and Gill are celebrating wickets in a WTC final that India is winning
These losers have no shame. They think they are on the brink of a massive victory. If they had any self-respect, they wouldn’t even be celebrating any wickets and runs in this match.
This is what you call minnow mentality. How shameful.
There's a few 'clowns' in your neck of the woods that we don't point out on a regular basis....Bumrah is a clown against New Zealand, so dropping him for this Test helped India. Had he played, New Zealand would have scored around 50 more in the first innings.
But I don't rate kohli or rohit. Gill too I am 50 50 on.View attachment 147277
@kron
How embarrassing is this. You would think that Kohli and Gill are celebrating wickets in a WTC final that India is winning
These losers have no shame. They think they are on the brink of a massive victory. If they had any self-respect, they wouldn’t even be celebrating any wickets and runs in this match.
This is what you call minnow mentality. How shameful.
10 degrees of swing would mean only the slips can gather the ball.so when it swings 10 degrees its ok. but spin a little at 6 degrees odd its a problem? maybe players should learn to bat. need good technique. look at young as you said.
Who has scored 194* runs against Pakistan at Multan. bobsy the King?No. Just like how Tendulkar was a clown against Pakistan in Test cricket.
Nice 180 degree turn in your opinions on Indian and Pak cricket.I’m sure Tendulkar still gets sleepless nights about it when Dravid and Ganguly exposed his selfish stat padding.
Just an example. Swing spin. Same thing. Players should adapt. No excuses.10 degrees of swing would mean only the slips can gather the ball.
A ball which seams or spins 5 degrees is usually a cracker.
You might be right tbh. But if that's the case why not give some of the youngsters a chance. So many talents missed out like jurel, harshit, paddikal, pradosh, sudarshan etc. All had stellar first class games. Sarfraz actually was iffy apart from the one game he scored 150. I never had trust in his technique or physique. I am sorry to be harsh, but a guy a sports person with that physique should not be playing internationally.just feel our guys are playing 10 tests back to back ..with not much gaps in about 15 weeks....roughtly a test per week....cut some slack.....it ai'nt easy....
Hope we come out on the right side tommorow.....
and put up a fight in oz....
else it gonna be a one long summer down under and one lonely long furrow here on PP
Thanks for the informationSide strain, he was struggling with it in the last test
Average of 42 vs Pakistan. Pakistan reduced him to an Azhar Ali level batsman.Who has scored 194* runs against Pakistan at Multan. bobsy the King?
Graham Gooch level batsman vs Pakistan. I’ll take that, most would.Average of 42 vs Pakistan. Pakistan reduced him to an Azhar Ali level batsman.
No , i m not thinking of conspiracy or or IPL or something silly like that.Why wouldn't they? Stop believing in conspiracy theories like Pakistanis do
They want a fat ipl contract? Best way is to smash india.
Or perform really well. Which they did. Indian poor selections and ageing team helped though
India dropped way more tbh. And nz mostly dropped rohit who scored basically nothing.No , i m not thinking of conspiracy or or IPL or something silly like that.
NZ seems reluctant to me in this match, not intense and focused like previous 2 tests . Series win has got into their minds .
Dropped catches and also bowling Mat and Sodhi for only few overs and bowling part tumer philips for more than combined Ish and Mat support my case.
Rcahin has serious issues vs bounce and also on turning pitches. He scored on the one flatish slow pitch that was provided in the first game barring the first session which was affected by rain. Kiwis took full advantage of those conditions at the time.Indian bhangra and double standards are unparalleled.
They have posted stats lionising performances in SENA countries to diminish other players but forget this criteria in an attempt to hype Ashwin and Jadeja.
Similarly they did Bhangra when Joe Root had a bad knock with Pakistan, calling him a bad player despite the fact he has beaten them black and blue.
Similarly Rachin has smashed India impacting one of the biggest series defeats not just in Indian cricket but shattering the psychology of Indian fans but they do Bhangra and twerk after he failed once.
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Well....half of those you named are in India A playing Aus A....You might be right tbh. But if that's the case why not give some of the youngsters a chance. So many talents missed out like jurel, harshit, paddikal, pradosh, sudarshan etc. All had stellar first class games. Sarfraz actually was iffy apart from the one game he scored 150. I never had trust in his technique or physique. I am sorry to be harsh, but a guy a sports person with that physique should not be playing internationally.
It's bccis fault. They can't do anything to change the non performers cause they are scared of the superstars.
also possible playing so many tests in sept oct heat...which is second summer in india drained out our guys....end of the day we still are playing about 10 tests in 15 weeks....and throw in the odd odi and t20 series....i doubt if any other side has an itenary like thisNo , i m not thinking of conspiracy or or IPL or something silly like that.
NZ seems reluctant to me in this match, not intense and focused like previous 2 tests . Series win has got into their minds .
Dropped catches and also bowling Mat and Sodhi for only few overs and bowling part tumer philips for more than combined Ish and Mat support my case.
Yeah....AA or any other Green cap worthy, is > ST....Average of 42 vs Pakistan. Pakistan reduced him to an Azhar Ali level batsman.
leave everything else.....Indian bhangra and double standards are unparalleled.
They have posted stats lionising performances in SENA countries to diminish other players but forget this criteria in an attempt to hype Ashwin and Jadeja.
Similarly they did Bhangra when Joe Root had a bad knock with Pakistan, calling him a bad player despite the fact he has beaten them black and blue.
Similarly Rachin has smashed India impacting one of the biggest series defeats not just in Indian cricket but shattering the psychology of Indian fans but they do Bhangra and twerk after he failed once.
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I have zero issues with ash and jaddu under performing. They are allowed to have one average series lol. They are ageing. My issue is with rohit kohli ans siraj. All 3 have under performed for a while now. Should have been dropped. We have much better players in reserve.Well....half of those you named are in India A playing Aus A....
and And Sai Sudarshan Bharadwaj and Namma kerala Paiyaan Devdutt Padikkal came good against Aus A .....in Aus ....in Aus conditions.....today....its another matter if aus a score the needful required to win or our guys perform a miracle and pick up th remaining wickets....
with Sarfraz...he has a total bottom handed front foot default push game....much like Dhoni ....except Dohoni was innovative and he could do stuff like the heli shot or other shots that others could not comprehend... i'd say Sarfraz game is tailor made for SC wickets....much like Gilll and VK are tailor made for Aus wickets.....but i woud'nt wager Sarfraz in aus conditions against aus bowlers....
re- hArshit and nitesh - i'd wager these both guys are inthe running for selection for doing what Lord thakur did.... the pace bowling all rounder role....
(ye pradosh kuan hai)...
but it is easy in hindsight to say 'why not give younsters a chance'.....bCCI did not want a 3-zip whitewash (which still might happen) and hence they selected what best they had in front of them.....
Not a lot of people give credence to Shami not available for so long...surely a guy like him with ability t o reverse swing might be of absolute premium here...and i hope shami plays in atleaset adelaide the day night test....
It aint easy to just kick legends like vk, RS, Ash out .....i agree they have not fired in this series so far.....but lets hope tommorow is another day
You are right about fatigue. But now we are even more cooked lol. We have aus soon. It is tough. Not going to lie.also possible playing so many tests in sept oct heat...which is second summer in india drained out our guys....end of the day we still are playing about 10 tests in 15 weeks....and throw in the odd odi and t20 series....i doubt if any other side has an itenary like this
Sarfaraz has been a disappointment himself. Just nothing outside that one knock.I have zero issues with ash and jaddu under performing. They are allowed to have one average series lol. They are ageing. My issue is with rohit kohli ans siraj. All 3 have under performed for a while now. Should have been dropped. We have much better players in reserve.
Failure of Ashwin and jadeja and still management refuse to replace them ,they should have never replaced kuldeep and Rohit and kohli continuous Failure with bat ,it's not like we don't have any batsmen, see India A in Australia , Paddikal, sudharsan ,Jurel and many but management refuse to give chance .keep on playing Rohit ,kohli and KL
Babar was doing sajda after scoring 150 against mighty Nepal but exposed badly against india or any others Asian team.You clearly didn’t watch India celebrate this match
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And I’m sure India would celebrate this win in a similar manner and based on their celebrations, it would be impossible to tell that they have lost the series, just like it is impossible to tell right now with the way they are celebrating the NZ wickets.
He is no Younis Khan vs spin but he is no worse than any Indian batsman so I don’t see the point of thumping your chests.
Who asked India to carry Kohli and Rohit?
And Shami didn’t play but the so called GOAT Bumrah did. What happened to him in the first two Tests and why did he run away from playing the third Test?
Babar is the only Pakistan captain who has made Indian fans shut their mouths after a World Cup match. He will always be revered and respected for the smackdown on India in Dubai.Babar was doing sajda after scoring 150 against mighty Nepal but exposed badly against india or any others Asian team.
India has overwhelmingly dominated Pakistan in ICC World Cups, winning 14 out of 15 matches, with Pakistan securing only one victory..Babar is the only Pakistan captain who has made Indian fans shut their mouths after a World Cup match. He will always be revered and respected for the smackdown on India in Dubai.
Most ducks by India in a three-game Test series
Tabraiz Shamsi praises India's unmatched cricket passion, sharing a glimpse of young players training on multiple pitches near Wankhede Stadium during the IND vs NZ Test.
What is bangladesh achivement? BIG zero .They are minnow forever after playing nearly 30 year's
India jas 2nd most ICC trophy after Australia .
This is not a achivement .Zero trophy
Their fans/players are even more "passionate" and they still suck at everything in cricket.What is bangladesh achivement? BIG zero .They are minnow forever after playing nearly 30 year's
India jas 2nd most ICC trophy after Australia .
Why restrict 11 years? Passion and resources were there before that also.Despite all these passions and resources, only one ICC trophy in the last 11 years.
High input, low output.
Whitewashing Pakistan in a test series away from home has to be their biggest achievement.
What does Babar have to do with India’s overwhelming dominance over Pakistan in World Cups? Was he the captain in all those matches?India has overwhelmingly dominated Pakistan in ICC World Cups, winning 14 out of 15 matches, with Pakistan securing only one victory..
LOL winning a single World cuo match is achivement for pakistan . typical minnows mentality.
Babar was the captain of pakistan team when they lost against Mighty USA.
What does virat have to with 2013 series against pakistan in NZ - pakistan match thread .What does Babar have to do with India’s overwhelming dominance over Pakistan in World Cups? Was he the captain in all those matches?
With a bit of luck, Babar would have won 3 out of 4 World Cup matches for Pakistan.
Guys its not a Bangladesh thread so please refrain from off topic stuff
What does Babar have to do with India’s overwhelming dominance over Pakistan in World Cups? Was he the captain in all those matches?
With a bit of luck, Babar would have won 3 out of 4 World Cup matches for Pakistan.
Knocking World Cup favorites India out of the tournament was a huge achievement for Bangladesh at the time. This defeat led the BCCI to shake things up, dropping senior players and sending in a fresh squad with a new captain. India went on to win the T20 World Cup, inspiring the BCCI to jump on the bandwagon and launch their own “Pyjama League.” So, as an Indian fan, you can thank Bangladesh for all the glitz and glamour you are enjoying today.This is not a achivement .Zero trophy
Knocking World Cup favorites India out of the tournament was a huge achievement for Bangladesh at the time. This defeat led the BCCI to shake things up, dropping senior players and sending in a fresh squad with a new captain. India went on to win the T20 World Cup, inspiring the BCCI to jump on the bandwagon and launch their own “Pyjama League.” So, as an Indian fan, you can thank Bangladesh for all the glitz and glamour you are enjoying today.
We are quite capable of bottling this run chase also.India firm favorites now
No way .163 is highest ever Target chased on this ground.India firm favorites now
What about your team ? Has they win anything to talk like that ?Hopefully Kiwis will make it 3-0 and later on Aussies will make it 5-0.
These defeats are essential for keeping posters like humble.
It is an ageing core of seniors. Ashwin is 38 and he seems mostly done. There are couple of big overseas tours coming and a Champions Trophy so he will have very less cricket to play over next 1 year. He will likely call it off anytime.For a very long time India was repeatedly bailed out by lower order. It is an aging lower order on their last legs. Jadeja/Ashwin. Still good enough to be part of the side. But their batting contributioni is very very vital for India's recovery. Moment they went missing India was brutally exposed. So far they have suffered 3 or 4 dramatic collapses in this series.
Leave it bro. Let him enjoy. Don't bother. Some people get a kick out of seeing other teams lose at the cost of their own team's demise.What about your team ? Has they win anything to talk like that ?
Yes, the purpose of cricket is to keep posters humble.Hopefully Kiwis will make it 3-0 and later on Aussies will make it 5-0.
These defeats are essential for keeping posters humble.