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New Zealand (235 & 174) defeat India (263 & 121) by 25 runs in the 3rd Test to complete a memorable 3-0 whitewash

Mamoon said:
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@kron

How embarrassing is this. You would think that Kohli and Gill are celebrating wickets in a WTC final that India is winning 🤣

These losers have no shame. They think they are on the brink of a massive victory. If they had any self-respect, they wouldn’t even be celebrating any wickets and runs in this match.

This is what you call minnow mentality. How shameful.
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sez the dude who's seen

0-17 consecutive vs Aus in Aus - stuff of legends - i mean even BD or zim do not have that kind of gong around their neck :)
0-7 consecutive vs Saf in SAF - surely approaching 'legend' territory
0-5 consecutive vs NZ in NZ - honourable mention and progression towards 'legend' territory

And i could be wrong on the above stats- i will admit...but if wrong... not by much....am sure on that
against Eng in eng conditions- your boys have a good record - no question about that.... and i will give you that....

but for all the bluster about as if your guys invented 'phaast' bowling and have some sort of birth copyright on it - you'd thing facing your own 'phaast' baaalers in the nets would had primed your guys to have the reverse of the records shown above....

and that you have mentioned WTC finals.....something you guys never remotely even were near....

a certain team....the purveyor of phaast bowling, the holder of all that is good, fair and open in cricket and has more injustices done to it and becoz it this it does not occupy its rightful place on every rankings ladder ever invented.....

u guys did'nt make any finalz in the WTC.....nor were in the reckoning ...for last 5 years....
and you find it apt to take a pot shot at someone celebrating whos's achieved much more than the keyboard warriors that we actually are....sez more about ur coping mechanism....

that said, i still believe NZ have a fantastic chance to knock us off tommorow and seeing our guys inability against quality spin or seam- it won't be easy for our guys....if NZ do this, i will be applauding....

Your day in the sun - njoi mate...
 
Mamoon said:
Bumrah is a clown against New Zealand, so dropping him for this Test helped India. Had he played, New Zealand would have scored around 50 more in the first innings.
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There's a few 'clowns' in your neck of the woods that we don't point out on a regular basis....
in summary.....
we never....
used the same pitch for two consec tests...
which means day one of second test was actually day Six.....and you do the math from here for the remaining days of test 2......
never seen industrial fans and heaters put to use the way your crowd used.....
thik hai....what a bunch of world beaters.......
 
Ravi Ashwin told local broadcasting media after end of Day 2:

“Hopefully not many, we should wrap it up with one or two runs here and there. Any runs saved in this innings is going to be much more critical for us when we chase it down. It’s not going to be easy, we’ll have to bat really well. I expected a lot more bounce and speed from this Mumbai pitch, it has been quite slow which is a surprise for me. It’s not a typical Bombay pitch, but much slower than usual."
 
Mamoon said:
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@kron

How embarrassing is this. You would think that Kohli and Gill are celebrating wickets in a WTC final that India is winning 🤣

These losers have no shame. They think they are on the brink of a massive victory. If they had any self-respect, they wouldn’t even be celebrating any wickets and runs in this match.

This is what you call minnow mentality. How shameful.
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But I don't rate kohli or rohit. Gill too I am 50 50 on.

Infact you had a thread about how great Gill is going to be. Not me. I always thought he was suspect vs spin. 90 today aside he still has huge holes in his game.

Plus they won the t20 wc. So they feel they should get a free pass. I blame bcci for these rubbish selections. They clearly know rohit and kohli are past it. They have zero cojones to drop them.
 
kron said:
so when it swings 10 degrees its ok. but spin a little at 6 degrees odd its a problem? maybe players should learn to bat. need good technique. look at young as you said.
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10 degrees of swing would mean only the slips can gather the ball.
A ball which seams or spins 5 degrees is usually a cracker.
 
just feel our guys are playing 10 tests back to back ..with not much gaps in about 15 weeks....roughtly a test per week....cut some slack.....it ai'nt easy....
Hope we come out on the right side tommorow.....
and put up a fight in oz....
else it gonna be a one long summer down under and one lonely long furrow here on PP
 
The third Test between India and New Zealand at Mumbai's Wankhede Stadium witnessed a record-breaking 29 wickets fall in the first two days, surpassing the 2000 Test record of 25 wickets between India and South Africa. Spinners dominated, claiming 24 of the 29 scalps. Ravindra Jadeja stole the show with 9 wickets by the end of day two, including a five-wicket haul in the first innings and a four-wicket haul in the second, propelling India into a commanding position.
 
sindhiboy said:
10 degrees of swing would mean only the slips can gather the ball.
A ball which seams or spins 5 degrees is usually a cracker.
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Just an example. Swing spin. Same thing. Players should adapt. No excuses.
 
Indian bhangra and double standards are unparalleled.

They have posted stats lionising performances in SENA countries to diminish other players but forget this criteria in an attempt to hype Ashwin and Jadeja.

Similarly they did Bhangra when Joe Root had a bad knock with Pakistan, calling him a bad player despite the fact he has beaten them black and blue.

Similarly Rachin has smashed India impacting one of the biggest series defeats not just in Indian cricket but shattering the psychology of Indian fans but they do Bhangra and twerk after he failed once.

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CrIc_Mystique said:
just feel our guys are playing 10 tests back to back ..with not much gaps in about 15 weeks....roughtly a test per week....cut some slack.....it ai'nt easy....
Hope we come out on the right side tommorow.....
and put up a fight in oz....
else it gonna be a one long summer down under and one lonely long furrow here on PP
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You might be right tbh. But if that's the case why not give some of the youngsters a chance. So many talents missed out like jurel, harshit, paddikal, pradosh, sudarshan etc. All had stellar first class games. Sarfraz actually was iffy apart from the one game he scored 150. I never had trust in his technique or physique. I am sorry to be harsh, but a guy a sports person with that physique should not be playing internationally.

It's bccis fault. They can't do anything to change the non performers cause they are scared of the superstars.
 
kron said:
Why wouldn't they? Stop believing in conspiracy theories like Pakistanis do

They want a fat ipl contract? Best way is to smash india.

Or perform really well. Which they did. Indian poor selections and ageing team helped though
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No , i m not thinking of conspiracy or or IPL or something silly like that.

NZ seems reluctant to me in this match, not intense and focused like previous 2 tests . Series win has got into their minds .
Dropped catches and also bowling Mat and Sodhi for only few overs and bowling part tumer philips for more than combined Ish and Mat support my case.
 
Mainul said:
No , i m not thinking of conspiracy or or IPL or something silly like that.

NZ seems reluctant to me in this match, not intense and focused like previous 2 tests . Series win has got into their minds .
Dropped catches and also bowling Mat and Sodhi for only few overs and bowling part tumer philips for more than combined Ish and Mat support my case.
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India dropped way more tbh. And nz mostly dropped rohit who scored basically nothing.

Regardless its a humiliating loss even if we are missing players.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Indian bhangra and double standards are unparalleled.

They have posted stats lionising performances in SENA countries to diminish other players but forget this criteria in an attempt to hype Ashwin and Jadeja.

Similarly they did Bhangra when Joe Root had a bad knock with Pakistan, calling him a bad player despite the fact he has beaten them black and blue.

Similarly Rachin has smashed India impacting one of the biggest series defeats not just in Indian cricket but shattering the psychology of Indian fans but they do Bhangra and twerk after he failed once.

T
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Rcahin has serious issues vs bounce and also on turning pitches. He scored on the one flatish slow pitch that was provided in the first game barring the first session which was affected by rain. Kiwis took full advantage of those conditions at the time.
 
kron said:
You might be right tbh. But if that's the case why not give some of the youngsters a chance. So many talents missed out like jurel, harshit, paddikal, pradosh, sudarshan etc. All had stellar first class games. Sarfraz actually was iffy apart from the one game he scored 150. I never had trust in his technique or physique. I am sorry to be harsh, but a guy a sports person with that physique should not be playing internationally.

It's bccis fault. They can't do anything to change the non performers cause they are scared of the superstars.
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Well....half of those you named are in India A playing Aus A....
and And Sai Sudarshan Bharadwaj and Namma kerala Paiyaan Devdutt Padikkal came good against Aus A .....in Aus ....in Aus conditions.....today....its another matter if aus a score the needful required to win or our guys perform a miracle and pick up th remaining wickets....
with Sarfraz...he has a total bottom handed front foot default push game....much like Dhoni ....except Dohoni was innovative and he could do stuff like the heli shot or other shots that others could not comprehend... i'd say Sarfraz game is tailor made for SC wickets....much like Gilll and VK are tailor made for Aus wickets.....but i woud'nt wager Sarfraz in aus conditions against aus bowlers....
re- hArshit and nitesh - i'd wager these both guys are inthe running for selection for doing what Lord thakur did.... the pace bowling all rounder role....
(ye pradosh kuan hai)...

but it is easy in hindsight to say 'why not give younsters a chance'.....bCCI did not want a 3-zip whitewash (which still might happen) and hence they selected what best they had in front of them.....
Not a lot of people give credence to Shami not available for so long...surely a guy like him with ability t o reverse swing might be of absolute premium here...and i hope shami plays in atleaset adelaide the day night test....
It aint easy to just kick legends like vk, RS, Ash out .....i agree they have not fired in this series so far.....but lets hope tommorow is another day :)
 
Mainul said:
No , i m not thinking of conspiracy or or IPL or something silly like that.

NZ seems reluctant to me in this match, not intense and focused like previous 2 tests . Series win has got into their minds .
Dropped catches and also bowling Mat and Sodhi for only few overs and bowling part tumer philips for more than combined Ish and Mat support my case.
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also possible playing so many tests in sept oct heat...which is second summer in india drained out our guys....end of the day we still are playing about 10 tests in 15 weeks....and throw in the odd odi and t20 series....i doubt if any other side has an itenary like this
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Indian bhangra and double standards are unparalleled.

They have posted stats lionising performances in SENA countries to diminish other players but forget this criteria in an attempt to hype Ashwin and Jadeja.

Similarly they did Bhangra when Joe Root had a bad knock with Pakistan, calling him a bad player despite the fact he has beaten them black and blue.

Similarly Rachin has smashed India impacting one of the biggest series defeats not just in Indian cricket but shattering the psychology of Indian fans but they do Bhangra and twerk after he failed once.

T
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leave everything else.....
Sincerely doubt if any indian fan who follows cricket. .....will call joe root a 'bad' player....
Whilst you are hung up on the overall test record of most runs - most indian rational fans will stand up and applaud if andwhen JR breaks the record.....
its pak fans who get the instant gratification about the whole 'indian media is against JR breaking record' narrative and saazish bandwagon....
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
Well....half of those you named are in India A playing Aus A....
and And Sai Sudarshan Bharadwaj and Namma kerala Paiyaan Devdutt Padikkal came good against Aus A .....in Aus ....in Aus conditions.....today....its another matter if aus a score the needful required to win or our guys perform a miracle and pick up th remaining wickets....
with Sarfraz...he has a total bottom handed front foot default push game....much like Dhoni ....except Dohoni was innovative and he could do stuff like the heli shot or other shots that others could not comprehend... i'd say Sarfraz game is tailor made for SC wickets....much like Gilll and VK are tailor made for Aus wickets.....but i woud'nt wager Sarfraz in aus conditions against aus bowlers....
re- hArshit and nitesh - i'd wager these both guys are inthe running for selection for doing what Lord thakur did.... the pace bowling all rounder role....
(ye pradosh kuan hai)...

but it is easy in hindsight to say 'why not give younsters a chance'.....bCCI did not want a 3-zip whitewash (which still might happen) and hence they selected what best they had in front of them.....
Not a lot of people give credence to Shami not available for so long...surely a guy like him with ability t o reverse swing might be of absolute premium here...and i hope shami plays in atleaset adelaide the day night test....
It aint easy to just kick legends like vk, RS, Ash out .....i agree they have not fired in this series so far.....but lets hope tommorow is another day :)
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I have zero issues with ash and jaddu under performing. They are allowed to have one average series lol. They are ageing. My issue is with rohit kohli ans siraj. All 3 have under performed for a while now. Should have been dropped. We have much better players in reserve.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
also possible playing so many tests in sept oct heat...which is second summer in india drained out our guys....end of the day we still are playing about 10 tests in 15 weeks....and throw in the odd odi and t20 series....i doubt if any other side has an itenary like this
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You are right about fatigue. But now we are even more cooked lol. We have aus soon. It is tough. Not going to lie.
 
kron said:
I have zero issues with ash and jaddu under performing. They are allowed to have one average series lol. They are ageing. My issue is with rohit kohli ans siraj. All 3 have under performed for a while now. Should have been dropped. We have much better players in reserve.
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Sarfaraz has been a disappointment himself. Just nothing outside that one knock.
 
Kiwis have been really good so far clearly going for a historic whitewash , Kohli and Sharma have been absolute duds as expected.
 
It is NZ's match to lose. Batting in 4th innings is literally impossible at Wankhede. Especially if the side has a lot of weak players against spin it is highly improbable. India's transition has begun.
 
HARKS said:
Failure of Ashwin and jadeja and still management refuse to replace them ,they should have never replaced kuldeep and Rohit and kohli continuous Failure with bat ,it's not like we don't have any batsmen, see India A in Australia , Paddikal, sudharsan ,Jurel and many but management refuse to give chance .keep on playing Rohit ,kohli and KL
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Kuldeep did play first Test. Didn't do well. They would have negotiated him easily. Besides why is it the bowlers fault not the batsmen's fault. If you don't have enough runs how can they apply pressure.
 
Mamoon said:
You clearly didn’t watch India celebrate this match
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And I’m sure India would celebrate this win in a similar manner and based on their celebrations, it would be impossible to tell that they have lost the series, just like it is impossible to tell right now with the way they are celebrating the NZ wickets.

He is no Younis Khan vs spin but he is no worse than any Indian batsman so I don’t see the point of thumping your chests.

Who asked India to carry Kohli and Rohit?

And Shami didn’t play but the so called GOAT Bumrah did. What happened to him in the first two Tests and why did he run away from playing the third Test?
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Babar was doing sajda after scoring 150 against mighty Nepal but exposed badly against india or any others Asian team. :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Babar was doing sajda after scoring 150 against mighty Nepal but exposed badly against india or any others Asian team. :kp
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Babar is the only Pakistan captain who has made Indian fans shut their mouths after a World Cup match. He will always be revered and respected for the smackdown on India in Dubai.
 
Kiwis have a lead of 143 runs. 1 wicket in hand.

They need to add 10-20 more runs maybe. A lead of 200 would've been great.
 
Mamoon said:
Babar is the only Pakistan captain who has made Indian fans shut their mouths after a World Cup match. He will always be revered and respected for the smackdown on India in Dubai.
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India has overwhelmingly dominated Pakistan in ICC World Cups, winning 14 out of 15 matches, with Pakistan securing only one victory..

LOL winning a single World cuo match is achivement for pakistan . typical minnows mentality.

Babar was the captain of pakistan team when they lost against Mighty USA. :kp
 
Shubman Gill speaks on India’s chances to win the Mumbai Test

Shubman Gill emphasized that just one solid partnership would be the key to winning in Mumbai.

At stumps on Day 2 in the third Test of the ICC World Test Championship series, New Zealand held a lead of 143 runs with one wicket remaining.

Despite the challenging nature of the pitch, India’s top scorer from the first innings, Shubman Gill, expressed confidence that they could chase down any target set by New Zealand.

“It's all about one good partnership when you are chasing a total which is around 150-160. If you have one good partnership of 70-80 runs, then the match is done. So that's what the conversation will be amongst the batters to have that one good partnership.”

Shubman Gill, India’s highest scorer in the first innings with 90 off 146 balls, forged an important partnership with Rishabh Pant at the start of Day 2. The pair added 96 runs in just 114 deliveries, putting early pressure on New Zealand. Gill spoke about the impact this partnership had on the New Zealand bowlers and mentioned that the plan is to replicate it again.

“And then when you know, even for the fielding team, once there is a 70-80 run partnership, even when we saw today, then when you are chasing 150, the body language of the opposition also drops. So that's what we will try to do, have one good partnership.”

Gill was asked about the team’s plan and, specifically, his approach as a batter as India aim to avoid a clean sweep by New Zealand.

“It's all about being calculative. I think if everybody is going to have their personal plans which are going to align with the team plan. And if a certain batter thinks that's the best way for him to be able to score runs on that wicket, yeah, for sure.”

India are in the driver’s seat to avoid losing this Test and prevent a series whitewash. Although New Zealand have already secured the series, crucial WTC points are still at stake, which Gill emphasized when asked about the importance of this match.

"Definitely, each and every match we play is critical and will determine if we're going to make it into the World Test Championship. So, every match we play, we're going to come with full intensity and play as best as we can."

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Shubman Gill speaks on India’s chances to win the Mumbai Test

Shubman Gill emphasized that just one solid partnership would be the key to winning in Mumbai.
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Devadwal said:
What is bangladesh achivement? BIG zero .They are minnow forever after playing nearly 30 year's

India jas 2nd most ICC trophy after Australia .
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Their fans/players are even more "passionate" and they still suck at everything in cricket.
 
sweep_shot said:
Despite all these passions and resources, only one ICC trophy in the last 11 years.

High input, low output.
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Why restrict 11 years? Passion and resources were there before that also.

And it’s the case with not just India but whole Asia. All the passion and resources and yet only India are #2 in the trophy cabinet. Include test performances and Pakistan are going southward mostly. Less said about BD better.
 
Devadwal said:
India has overwhelmingly dominated Pakistan in ICC World Cups, winning 14 out of 15 matches, with Pakistan securing only one victory..

LOL winning a single World cuo match is achivement for pakistan . typical minnows mentality.

Babar was the captain of pakistan team when they lost against Mighty USA. :kp
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What does Babar have to do with India’s overwhelming dominance over Pakistan in World Cups? Was he the captain in all those matches?

With a bit of luck, Babar would have won 3 out of 4 World Cup matches for Pakistan.
 
Mamoon said:
What does Babar have to do with India’s overwhelming dominance over Pakistan in World Cups? Was he the captain in all those matches?

With a bit of luck, Babar would have won 3 out of 4 World Cup matches for Pakistan.
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What does virat have to with 2013 series against pakistan in NZ - pakistan match thread .

Pakistan was lucky to won the toss so thats why they were won single World cup game against india . :kp
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Guys its not a Bangladesh thread so please refrain from off topic stuff
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Mamoon said:
What does Babar have to do with India’s overwhelming dominance over Pakistan in World Cups? Was he the captain in all those matches?

With a bit of luck, Babar would have won 3 out of 4 World Cup matches for Pakistan.
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Some of these Indians are losing it. Haha! Kiwis have shaken them up badly.
 
Devadwal said:
This is not a achivement .Zero trophy
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Knocking World Cup favorites India out of the tournament was a huge achievement for Bangladesh at the time. This defeat led the BCCI to shake things up, dropping senior players and sending in a fresh squad with a new captain. India went on to win the T20 World Cup, inspiring the BCCI to jump on the bandwagon and launch their own “Pyjama League.” So, as an Indian fan, you can thank Bangladesh for all the glitz and glamour you are enjoying today. :kp :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Knocking World Cup favorites India out of the tournament was a huge achievement for Bangladesh at the time. This defeat led the BCCI to shake things up, dropping senior players and sending in a fresh squad with a new captain. India went on to win the T20 World Cup, inspiring the BCCI to jump on the bandwagon and launch their own “Pyjama League.” So, as an Indian fan, you can thank Bangladesh for all the glitz and glamour you are enjoying today. :kp :inti
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India were not favourites to win in 2007
 
Hopefully Kiwis will make it 3-0 and later on Aussies will make it 5-0.

These defeats are essential for keeping posters humble.
 
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sweep_shot said:
Hopefully Kiwis will make it 3-0 and later on Aussies will make it 5-0.

These defeats are essential for keeping posters like humble.
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What about your team ? Has they win anything to talk like that ? :kp
 
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For a very long time India was repeatedly bailed out by lower order. It is an aging lower order on their last legs. Jadeja/Ashwin. Still good enough to be part of the side. But their batting contributioni is very very vital for India's recovery. Moment they went missing India was brutally exposed. So far they have suffered 3 or 4 dramatic collapses in this series.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
For a very long time India was repeatedly bailed out by lower order. It is an aging lower order on their last legs. Jadeja/Ashwin. Still good enough to be part of the side. But their batting contributioni is very very vital for India's recovery. Moment they went missing India was brutally exposed. So far they have suffered 3 or 4 dramatic collapses in this series.
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It is an ageing core of seniors. Ashwin is 38 and he seems mostly done. There are couple of big overseas tours coming and a Champions Trophy so he will have very less cricket to play over next 1 year. He will likely call it off anytime.

Rohit and Kohli have to think whether they want to play more international cricket or decide it is over for them too. If 2027 WC is in their plans, it is a problem then. Rohit will be 40 by then and Kohli will be 38.5. I thought Kohli may push himself a bit more but given his form, he, Rohit and Jadeja should retire after 2025 CT from ODIs.

Jadeja can push himself a bit in Tests due to his all round prowess but likely they all are past their best and will retire in a year or so.
 
Devadwal said:
What about your team ? Has they win anything to talk like that ? :kp
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Leave it bro. Let him enjoy. Don't bother. Some people get a kick out of seeing other teams lose at the cost of their own team's demise.
 
Talk about India vs New Zealand. No point in bringing Bangladesh here.
 
Such a pathetic test cricketer..

Opening floodgates here and the delusional Indian commies and hosts off the field go and ask, “Who plays pull shot better?” and expects that they will get Rohit Sharma as answer too. :facepalm:
 
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