Official Pakistan 2013 General Elections thread

[IAJ]

From view of the parties:

PPP: 70+ seats
PML-N: 120-140 seats
PTI: the lady representing PTI on GEO didn't give any indication

 

[Waseem]

PMLN winning even in South Punjab, Shah Mahmood also losing.

PTI in my opinion is doing exactly how i expected so not disappointed but i expected people to go for new educated people regardless of party instead of old tried and tested who built roads

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Pakistan deserves what it gets after this. ....

Never mind. Better luck next time.

 

[saeedhk]

Things not looking good for PTI.

 

[insaftak]

Nawaz will win NA 68

 

[endymion248]

From view of the parties:

PPP: 70+ seats
PML-N: 120-140 seats
PTI: the lady representing PTI on GEO didn't give any indication

Somewhere 30-50 would be a realistical expectation. Maybe a bit optimist.

 

[saeedhk]

Depressing.

 

[Badsha]

Haan. Mein Baaghi hun

 

[akhtar fan]

Pmln did badmashi in whole the country

 

[IAJ]

Lols seems like some PTI posters here already giving up and talking about next time. Calm down. Keep fighting.

 

[Square Drive]

Too early to say.

But which party's looking the most strong one at the moment?

 

[Markhor]

I don't vote for people, I vote for parties and what they stand for. When a party's only argument is that it is clean and honest, I expect them to at least not lose that. And then be hypocrite about it by pretending you will fire said people once you win. It's just a Bhutto bis repetita, a party striving for regional politics by regional polticians (other than Imran Khan).

But why do we expect politicians to be great moral guardians of society. A politicians' primary job is to get elected, and ALL politicians use the slogan of 'clean/honest' or 'change' as far back as I remember, we famously saw that with Obama in 08. At the end of the day IK is a politician and not some angel of morality some want him to be, if he has to make alliances then so be it.

Power without principles is empty, but principles without power is futile.

 

[Badsha]

Guys, don't lose hope!


If we can form the government in KPK, we can improve at least one province of Pakistan and counter the terrorism there!


Apart from that, we'll be a fierce opposition!

 

[godzilla]

Imran Khan doesn't have anything for himself. He has no experience, nor does most of his team. He has never proven that he could lead the country to good governance because he never got the occasion.

So, why should I vote for him? Because his party is clean and different from others.

Once a drop of ink stained the glass, which includes ''leadership'', he didn't have that anymore. Hence, people who are thinking that not voting for Imran Khan is a crime agaisnt humanity are seriously disillusioned.

When you are inexperienced, the main arguments you have for yourself is change, innocence and yours words. Once all three were lost, I honestly couldn't care less about who between PTI or PML-N wins.

what political experience exactly are you talking about? i really dont understand this argument at all, prinicipally because its invalid. the experience youre referring to is of massive scale traitorous corruption. no one in the right mind would want that as opposed to someone new.

even if one were to ignore that most obvious of issues, have you seen these experienced politicians speak? or do anything? theyre almost dictionary definitions of idiots. yuo cant ignore that these people have collectively put the country in the horrendous and fast deteriorating state it is in.

on top of all of that, its not like the new party has no political skill whatsoever. ik changed the nature of hustings in the country, and his party has been around for EIGHTEEN years. how much more experience do you need?

EVEN further, its clear to anyone and everyone that ik is pretty much by a huge number of miles the most honest of all candidates.

why the decision isnt completely obvious can only be explained by two things - an unusual and extra-ordinary lack of intelligence, or self interest. i suspect most of voters opposed to ik fall in that latter category, families that have leeched off the black blood of the country for decades.

 

[IAJ]

Somewhere 30-50 would be a realistical expectation. Maybe a bit optimist.

If you are talking about PPP then it was Saeed Ghani who said they will get 70+ seats

 

[Badsha]

Please, a request from me to all of you: stop arguing with endymion248.

 

[Markhor]

But which party's looking the most strong one at the moment?

Nawaz League.

 

[Anfield]

But which party's looking the most strong one at the moment?

PmlN

 

[Runner Up]

PTI to blame. They wanted the Election in time. Now accept it. Qadri must be laughing out loud sitting at his home.

 

[endymion248]

How long before curses against Pakistan turn into bitter accusations of dandli?

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Lols seems like some PTI posters here already giving up and talking about next time. Calm down. Keep fighting.

Its not about fighting.

It's about understanding Pakistani people. They want the country to continue on the path of corruption and militantism.

Campaign time is over. Face facts.

 

[IAJ]

But which party's looking the most strong one at the moment?

PML-Nawaz

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Precisely, those expecting some kind of overnight revolution are being naive. Change comes gradually, PTI has to first be able to sit in opposition, build up their local bases, gain parliamentary experience and gradually they may get into government over time. People ought to calm down and wait for the final results.

Personally I think PTI has performed admirably and surpassed expectations so far. People in Pakistan vote tribally and usually for those they feel closest to regionally. You just have to see well educated types in Karachi who vote for MQM to see that, so to expect different from the uneducated masses is naive. In that context, PTI has exceeded expectations and t least is now on the map as a serious player. The question remains whether the PTI will still have the clout if Imran Khan isn't around to lead for whatever reason.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

How long before curses against Pakistan turn into bitter accusations of dandli?

Whats dandli

 

[Goggy]

Big mistake by Imran not to choose electables, he virtually had a free pick to take on all these old faces who are now leading the polls but opted for untested youth. I think the 35% tickets to youth should have been more like 5%

 

[endymion248]

If you are talking about PPP then it was Saeed Ghani who said they will get 70+ seats

PTI. Do we have any info about who is leading in KP and GB?

 

[Badsha]

DHA Phase 2 Islamabad polling station result for NA 49 . PTI 902, PmlN 226 PPP 13


proud of my residence

 

[insaftak]

NA 49 PTI is leading!!

 

[Waseem]

So far Dr Azhar Jadoon NA 17 , Javed Hashmi NA 48 & NA 71 Imran Khan seats look settled for PTI

 

[Runner Up]

He means Dhandli the Rigging

 

[endymion248]

Whats dandli

I am not use to english phonetics. Dandle? Dhandle? Tandlee?

 

[iHammad]

Approximately in how many hours can we predict the final result?

 

[IAJ]

MQM: 15+ seats according to Haidar Rizvi.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Guys, don't lose hope!


If we can form the government in KPK, we can improve at least one province of Pakistan and counter the terrorism there!


Apart from that, we'll be a fierce opposition!

That's the right attitude.

If he can improve a province he will get more credibility.

But fact remains that people have accepted corruption.

Therefore they are now partly culpable.

 

[IAJ]

PTI. Do we have any info about who is leading in KP and GB?

I think Haidar Rizvi of MQM said that PTI will get about 50 seats.

 

[Badsha]

Big mistake by Imran not to choose electables, he virtually had a free pick to take on all these old faces who are now leading the polls but opted for untested youth. I think the 35% tickets to youth should have been more like 5%

So what?

What's important?


Winning the elections with useless people?


or winning 30 seats but forming a PROPER oposition or whatever.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

I am not use to english phonetics. Dandle? Dhandle? Tandlee?

I still don't get it. ...

Need English translation.

 

[shan]

Another MQM fraud, NA-249 other candidate 0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Markhor]

If IK was to become Prime Minister by some quirk of fate, how would he take the Oath of Office ? You can hardly wheel him in on a stretcher, (not trying to be facetious by the way).

 

[shah_1]

No one will cross more than 100 seats


But PML N would have the majority seats around 80-90

 

[insaftak]

LOL all of candidates oppossing MQM in karachi are getting 0 votes )

 

[IAJ]

NA-68, Nawaz thumping PTI's Nor Hayat

 

[Badsha]

:Farooq Sattar, 5000. Abdul Aziz Memon, 0.

 

[Waseem]

Guys, don't lose hope!


If we can form the government in KPK, we can improve at least one province of Pakistan and counter the terrorism there!


Apart from that, we'll be a fierce opposition!

I agree! This is why i never talked about clean sweep because i couldn't see how people can change so much overnight that a new party will win 120 + seats.

 

[endymion248]

That's the right attitude.

If he can improve a province he will get more credibility.

But fact remains that people have accepted corruption.

Therefore they are now partly culpable.

In terms of culpability, it's always a lose/lose situation when you go voting in Pak. I do believe that, sometime in the next 5 years, PTI could be in the KP government coalition. Maybe even have the CM seat.

 

[karachiite]

Raja Parvez Ashraf losing!

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

He means Dhandli the Rigging

There may be some rigging. .. but not too the extent that seriously affects the overall vote.

Fact is Pakistani People's are willingly voting for corruption despite having a credible anti corruption candidate. ...

Therefore they are now partially responsible for any corruption that takes place.

 

[Badsha]

I have to say, TUQ had a point.

 

[endymion248]

:Farooq Sattar, 5000. Abdul Aziz Memon, 0.

That, Gentlemen, is the real clean sweep from Bhai

 

[Anfield]

Na49 pmln leading. smh

 

[Markhor]

Approximately in how many hours can we predict the final result?

Another 3/4 hours probably.

But you have to account for the sheer size of the country, irregularities and the possibility of recounts. Some legal challenges will no doubt be mounted too, so a final, accurate result could even be days.

 

[IAJ]

This Naz Baloch of PTI lady speaks well

 

[endymion248]

There may be some rigging. .. but not too the extent that seriously affects the overall vote.

Fact is Pakistani People's are willingly voting for corruption despite having a credible anti corruption candidate. ...

Therefore they are now partially responsible for any corruption that takes place.

I think, with this opinion, you will have to fight many PTI supporters.

 

[insaftak]

Imran Khan leading with 14K votes in NA56

 

[Runner Up]

That's the right attitude.

If he can improve a province he will get more credibility.

But fact remains that people have accepted corruption.

Therefore they are now partly culpable.

No Sir. People do want change but there were open rigging and I am saying again and again that because of this corrupt system, free and fair elections will never be arranged and Imran Khan to blame too. Why did he not join hands with Qadri when he wanted reformation in the System? Imran Khan was the one who said again and again that we want the elections. Either he was dumb or overconfident.

Brother ab teer kamaan se nikal chuka hai....

 

[Badsha]

MQM rigging is just world class

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

In terms of culpability, it's always a lose/lose situation when you go voting in Pak. I do believe that, sometime in the next 5 years, PTI could be in the KP government coalition. Maybe even have the CM seat.

Perhaps in the future IK can get into power. Needs to demonstrate credibility by winning and running a province.

Culpability wise. .. The people are now definitely culpable.

In the past they could have claimed ignorance. ... Not now.

They have accepted it and deserve What's coming.

 

[saeedhk]

There may be some rigging. .. but not too the extent that seriously affects the overall vote.

Fact is Pakistani People's are willingly voting for corruption despite having a credible anti corruption candidate. ...

Therefore they are now partially responsible for any corruption that takes place.

Exactly.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Imran Khan should become president of PCB now.

 

[endymion248]

MQM rigging is just world class

Huge propaganda machinery+Armed wing=Win

 

[Bewal Express]

People vote for the corrupt and then complain that they are corrupt-dumb $--------. The people of Pakistan deserve everything they get. I said at the start that you should never unestimate the stupidity of the population and sadly too many have lived up to my stereotype.

 

[insaftak]

Lahore is tilting towards PMLN>

 

[Runner Up]

lol Even SMQ is not leading.

Means electables kuch nahi kar sakte.

 

[DJANGO]

lahore is even anything can happen

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

No Sir. People do want change but there were open rigging and I am saying again and again that because of this corrupt system, free and fair elections will never be arranged and Imran Khan to blame too. Why did he not join hands with Qadri when he wanted reformation in the System? Imran Khan was the one who said again and again that we want the elections. Either he was dumb or overconfident.

Brother ab teer kamaan se nikal chuka hai....

So what if he wanted elections? Or not?

Fact is there is an election and the Masses have voted for corruption.

So no one can complain now.

If I was the Person being voted for I would do even more corruption. .. people have willingly accepted it.

Long live Corruptistan.

 

[Badsha]

Imran Khan should become president of PCB now.

This is a person who NEVER gives up.


He will try and form an opposition now.

 

[saeedhk]

People vote for the corrupt and then complain that they are corrupt-dumb $--------. The people of Pakistan deserve everything they get. I said at the start that you should never unestimate the stupidity of the population and sadly too many have lived up to my stereo type.

My father said the same thing.

 

[Goggy]

Whole of karachi needs a re-election!! How the hell can the other candidates only get 0 votes

 

[MVP26]

Seems like the only major cities pti is leading are Peshawer and Pindi/ Islamabad.

 

[baalti]

IK's fall has hurt their winnings a lot...

 

[insaftak]

Khan Sahab losing NA 122 lahore. Sharam kero Lahorio!!!

 

[Runner Up]

So what if he wanted elections? Or not?

Fact is there is an election and the Masses have voted for corruption.

So no one can complain now.

If I was the Person being voted for I would do even more corruption. .. people have willingly accepted it.

Long live Corruptistan.

Bhai mere I am saying again and again. There were khullam khulla rigging going on even in Punjab. TV channels showed live how people were forcing people to vote for their candidates.

Long live corrupt system (Which needed to be sort out before the elections).

Please don't blame people. If system is in order, everything in order.

 

[Markhor]

People vote for the corrupt and then complain that they are corrupt-dumb $--------. The people of Pakistan deserve everything they get. I said at the start that you should never unestimate the stupidity of the population and sadly too many have lived up to my stereotype.

But name me one country in which a party has gone from 0 seats to forming the government. Opposition is a good start.

 

[Badsha]

My father said the same thing.

No offence but tell your father than the whole of NA 250 was standing to vote for PTI but MQM had different plans.


Even in interior sindh rigging has happened. How do you expect people to vote when rigging like this happens?

 

[wasim-fan]

Perhaps in the future IK can get into power. Needs to demonstrate credibility by winning and running a province.

Culpability wise. .. The people are now definitely culpable.

In the past they could have claimed ignorance. ... Not now.

They have accepted it and deserve What's coming.

I think Imran running a model province would be great for him also. All said and done he has no governance experience.

I won't be too harsh on people. All our lives in sub continent gets dictated by identity and insecurity that stems from. Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Pashtun, Pathan, Punjabi, Sindhi etc. You are trying to break years of programming. They are concerned about corruption, but they are more insecured about their identities. Unfortunately, our identities have become about things we hate or are weary off than things we want for a better world.

It will take time, but it ll happen. Kudos to him. He is my man.

 

[Goggy]

People vote for the corrupt and then complain that they are corrupt-dumb $--------. The people of Pakistan deserve everything they get. I said at the start that you should never unestimate the stupidity of the population and sadly too many have lived up to my stereotype.

I heard the noora's took bewal in PP-3? Is thats confirmed?

 

[Badsha]

Khan Sahab losing NA 122 lahore. Sharam kero Lahorio!!!

holy cra-

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Bhai mere I am saying again and again. There were khullam khulla rigging going on even in Punjab. TV channels showed live how people were forcing people to vote for their candidates.

Long live corrupt system (Which needed to be sort out before the elections).

Please don't blame people. If system is in order, everything in order.

The rigging won't impact the overall result unless it's close.

The Pakistani people are definitely to blame. ...

I'm pretty sure the American people arent voting in the ejection.

 

[wasim-fan]

But name me one country in which a party has gone from 0 seats to forming the government. Opposition is a good start.

This. It is great start.

 

[farazaidi]

why so negativity? relax guys. Results are not even 50% out yet

I'm sure PTI will end up as the biggest party in federation. Who else agrees with me?