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Pakistan [98/1] beat Ireland [97] by nine wickets with 247 balls remaining in the Under-19 World Cup

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Pakistan won the toss against Ireland must win game and elected to bowl first.

Pakistan must win by big margin as NRR can come into play.
 
None of the Pak matches are televised.

On the flip side, all the India matches are going to be televised.
The schedule is in the sky sports page and I've been put off so bad.
All the teams should get at least match for the sake if fans at least.
 
Shaheen Shah Afridi takes Topping's wicket with the last ball of the 6th over, Pak U-19 firmly on top early.
 
If Ireland struggling so much to score 100 against Pakistan, what will they do against Afghanistan? Can they pass 50 run marks!! :ashwin
 
No disrespect to our Irish posters expecially Donall, Ireland seems to have no cricket future at least in the next generation or so. Last few u19s wcs says it about the team.

At least BD had success in u19 levels(win ratio), still was minnow for long time.

AFG too now having a success by raw talent which is very important for newer teams. Because they don't have the facility nor competitive domestics like top cricketing nations..

On the other hand, Ireland have nothing, no raw talent, no good facilities and obviously not a very competitive domestic either.

At least in near future I see Ireland getting roasted head to toe..
 
No disrespect to our Irish posters expecially Donall, Ireland seems to have no cricket future at least in the next generation or so. Last few u19s wcs says it about the team.

At least BD had success in u19 levels(win ratio), still was minnow for long time.

AFG too now having a success by raw talent which is very important for newer teams. Because they don't have the facility nor competitive domestics like top cricketing nations..

On the other hand, Ireland have nothing, no raw talent, no good facilities and obviously not a very competitive domestic either.

At least in near future I see Ireland getting roasted head to toe..

If Ireland played 20-25 years old like Pakistan, Afghanistan and BD then they would also have success. The thing is you can't cheat with age in Ireland.
 
No disrespect to our Irish posters expecially Donall, Ireland seems to have no cricket future at least in the next generation or so. Last few u19s wcs says it about the team.

At least BD had success in u19 levels(win ratio), still was minnow for long time.

AFG too now having a success by raw talent which is very important for newer teams. Because they don't have the facility nor competitive domestics like top cricketing nations..

On the other hand, Ireland have nothing, no raw talent, no good facilities and obviously not a very competitive domestic either.

At least in near future I see Ireland getting roasted head to toe..

Respectfully disagree.

Problem with a lot of posters re these tournaments is they focus on 1 thing only, winning.

Underage cricket is not about winning, its about a handful of talented players stepping up and showing potential.

Already on this tour Ireland have

Grassi 75 vs SL
Tector 100 vs England
Josh Little who has pace doing well with bat and ball.

Ireland, for a nation of a few thousand regular cricketers, produces sufficient talent compared to nations similar to us i.e NZ. NZ are better than us of course, but not by a long shot (we nearly beat them two years ago in the last WC). With all due respect comparing Ireland, a very expensive country with low funding from the ICC to Afghanistan, a country with 7 times the population, half of whom are 20 or under, who are cricket crazy, where cricket is a ticket from poverty, who receive millions from US, German, Swedish etc governments for cricket, money which goes a LOT further since AFG is so poor, with Ireland is just not fair.

Ireland produces sufficient talent, in 2016 we had the 2nd highest run scorer (Tucker) and wickettaker (Anders). Hell we were far from disgraced 2 days ago, had SL on the ropes at 9 for 2 chasing 210.

Irelands issue is that this talent returns to an underdeveloped underfunded domestic system where they dont get regular enough top level cricket.

Over time, this will change. Slowly, but it will. Already we're (finally) getting regular A team games with actual teams. All these steps will gradually allow us to produce players.
 
Also, to add to my point.

We were unfortunate in that 3 of our warm up games were rained off completely. This meant we entered our game with SL with a total of 1 outdoor game since qualifying in July.

Also, to my knowledge, Ireland have never, I repeat never in our history had an U19 game vs a FM outside of a WC. They basically play the Qualifier (which barring 2 games vs Scotland is against teams we're far too good for e.g Jersey) or, when there is no qualifier, they play a 3 game series vs Scotland

Seriously, look at the meltdown when Pakistan U19 go 6 months without a game lol, imagine if they got our treatment.....

In addition this must be one of the youngest U19 teams Ireland have ever sent. Think I read a while back when we qualified 8 of the 15 are eligible for the next WC.
 
Respectfully disagree.

Problem with a lot of posters re these tournaments is they focus on 1 thing only, winning.

Underage cricket is not about winning, its about a handful of talented players stepping up and showing potential.

Already on this tour Ireland have

Grassi 75 vs SL
Tector 100 vs England
Josh Little who has pace doing well with bat and ball.

Ireland, for a nation of a few thousand regular cricketers, produces sufficient talent compared to nations similar to us i.e NZ. NZ are better than us of course, but not by a long shot (we nearly beat them two years ago in the last WC). With all due respect comparing Ireland, a very expensive country with low funding from the ICC to Afghanistan, a country with 7 times the population, half of whom are 20 or under, who are cricket crazy, where cricket is a ticket from poverty, who receive millions from US, German, Swedish etc governments for cricket, money which goes a LOT further since AFG is so poor, with Ireland is just not fair.

Ireland produces sufficient talent, in 2016 we had the 2nd highest run scorer (Tucker) and wickettaker (Anders). Hell we were far from disgraced 2 days ago, had SL on the ropes at 9 for 2 chasing 210.

Irelands issue is that this talent returns to an underdeveloped underfunded domestic system where they dont get regular enough top level cricket.

Over time, this will change. Slowly, but it will. Already we're (finally) getting regular A team games with actual teams. All these steps will gradually allow us to produce players.

Why doesn't Ireland cricket get such funds ?
 
Respectfully disagree.

Problem with a lot of posters re these tournaments is they focus on 1 thing only, winning.

Underage cricket is not about winning, its about a handful of talented players stepping up and showing potential.

Already on this tour Ireland have

Grassi 75 vs SL
Tector 100 vs England
Josh Little who has pace doing well with bat and ball.

Ireland, for a nation of a few thousand regular cricketers, produces sufficient talent compared to nations similar to us i.e NZ. NZ are better than us of course, but not by a long shot (we nearly beat them two years ago in the last WC). With all due respect comparing Ireland, a very expensive country with low funding from the ICC to Afghanistan, a country with 7 times the population, half of whom are 20 or under, who are cricket crazy, where cricket is a ticket from poverty, who receive millions from US, German, Swedish etc governments for cricket, money which goes a LOT further since AFG is so poor, with Ireland is just not fair.

Ireland produces sufficient talent, in 2016 we had the 2nd highest run scorer (Tucker) and wickettaker (Anders). Hell we were far from disgraced 2 days ago, had SL on the ropes at 9 for 2 chasing 210.

Irelands issue is that this talent returns to an underdeveloped underfunded domestic system where they dont get regular enough top level cricket.

Over time, this will change. Slowly, but it will. Already we're (finally) getting regular A team games with actual teams. All these steps will gradually allow us to produce players.

Why doesn't Ireland cricket get such funds ?
 
Why doesn't Ireland cricket get such funds ?

The ICC give Zimbabwe 80 million over the next cycle.

Irelands funding was doubled due to us getting full membership. Even then its still only half of ZCB at 40 million.

As for why we get less, politics would be the answer I guess. Honestly I was surprised we even got 40 million.
 
Ireland bowled out for 97.

Shaheen with 6/15.

Nice [MENTION=145892]Siraj.Hussain[/MENTION] :D

Thank you.

The game could have been over much earlier though, if Shaheen Shah was persisted with and if he had bowled an extended spell.
However, I understand Hasan's logic. Playing Ireland has allowed lesser bowlers some much needed bowling practice.
 
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Zaid in :afridi mode.

They want to watch the seniors playing, don't blame them for trying to finish this in a hurry. :mv
 
It's been one of those games for Pakistan where they look like they can beat anyone in the world, before they crash back down to Earth in the next game. Disappointing from Ireland after competing pretty well against SL.
 
Why did Hasan Khan promote himself..... he is a bowler..... the coach should have stopped him coming out to bat
 
Why did Hasan Khan promote himself..... he is a bowler..... the coach should have stopped him coming out to bat

They are trying to win as quickly as possible to improve the NRR. Since Hassan Khan is a pretty decent hitter,he probably promoted himself so he can get some quick runs.
 
Hassan Khan is an inept captain when I saw that Pakistan won the toss. Why did they not bat out the 50 overs and get as much batting out there and dismiss them cheaply. :facepalm:
 
Hassan Khan is an inept captain when I saw that Pakistan won the toss. Why did they not bat out the 50 overs and get as much batting out there and dismiss them cheaply. :facepalm:

Stop being harsh on the kid!
 
Good win for Pakistan U19 team after their loss to Afghanistan.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There's no question about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvIRE?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvIRE</a> Player of the Match! Shaheen Afridi for his outstanding 6/15! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/U19CWC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#U19CWC</a> <a href="https://t.co/idXkywkcHm">pic.twitter.com/idXkywkcHm</a></p>— Cricket World Cup (@cricketworldcup) <a href="https://twitter.com/cricketworldcup/status/953066815013335040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hassan Khan was full of praise for Shaheen Afridi after his sensational 6/15 against Ireland! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvIRE?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvIRE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/U19CWC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#U19CWC</a> <a href="https://t.co/Fc5OA4wE1f">pic.twitter.com/Fc5OA4wE1f</a></p>— Cricket World Cup (@cricketworldcup) <a href="https://twitter.com/cricketworldcup/status/953082543494041601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The ICC give Zimbabwe 80 million over the next cycle.

Irelands funding was doubled due to us getting full membership. Even then its still only half of ZCB at 40 million.

As for why we get less, politics would be the answer I guess. Honestly I was surprised we even got 40 million.

Not seeing the forest for the trees Donal, 40 mil for a country that has only a couple of thousand cricket players equates to $20,000 per player. What more could you want.
 
No disrespect to our Irish posters expecially Donall, Ireland seems to have no cricket future at least in the next generation or so. Last few u19s wcs says it about the team.

At least BD had success in u19 levels(win ratio), still was minnow for long time.

AFG too now having a success by raw talent which is very important for newer teams. Because they don't have the facility nor competitive domestics like top cricketing nations..

On the other hand, Ireland have nothing, no raw talent, no good facilities and obviously not a very competitive domestic either.

At least in near future I see Ireland getting roasted head to toe..

Nope Bangladesh did not make it into even one semis before 2016 and that too at home.
 
Ireland Under 19s Beaten By Pakistan at World Cup

Ireland’s Under 19s suffered a 9-wicket loss to Pakistan in Whangarei in the second group match of the ICC Under 19 Cricket World Cup.

Pakistan pacer Shaheen Shah Afridi produced an outstanding spell of bowling to take 6 wickets in Ireland’s innings of 97 and in reply, Pakistan wasted no time in chasing down the target, doing so inside 9 overs.

Pakistan U19 won the toss and elected to field. Ireland were hoping to get off to a similar start to the Sri Lanka match and then build through the middle overs but Afridi didn’t allow any of the Irish batters settle.

His extra pace and how he attacked the stumps meant he was not always threatening to take wickets but his consistency left runs at a premium. Three of his wickets came through catches from wicketkeeper Rohail Nazir behind the stumps. The other 3 were clean bowled, with one commentator describing him as ‘Mitchell Starc-esque’.

With Ireland 9-down Josh Little opened his shoulders and played a few shots. With two boundaries and the only 6 of the innings, Little top-scored with 24 not out.

Pakistan opener Muhammad Zaid Alam wasted no time in chasing down the target. His 19 ball 43 included 7 fours and a 6 to finish the chase.

Without doubt it was a tough day for the Irish squad but this group of players have come through so much together and will go again on Saturday January 20th at 10.30am (9.30pm Friday Irish time) against Afghanistan.

Ireland U19 v Pakistan U19, ICC U19 Cricket World Cup Group D, Cobham Oval, Whangarei, New Zealand

Pakistan Win by 9 Wickets

Ireland 97/10 (28.5/50 Overs) Josh Little 24*, Sam Murphy 19; Shaheen Shah Afridi 6-15

Pakistan 98/1 (8.5 overs) Muhammad Zaid Alam 43*, Hasan Khan 27*; Aaron Cawley 1-27

Source Link:http://www.cricketireland.ie/news/article/ireland-under-19s-beaten-by-pakistan-at-world-cup
 
Brilliant Afridi opens Pakistan's account


Shaheen Afridi’s display of traditional fast-bowling – pace, aggression and unbridled passion – saw him claim a six-wicket haul that also had Ireland bundled out for 97 at the Cobham Oval in Whangarei on Tuesday (January 16). Afridi’s incredible return of 6 for 15 in just 8.5 overs, including three maidens, was the best ever returns for Pakistan in the ICC Under 19 Cricket World Cup.

It helped them coast to a nine-wicket victory, and stay in contention for a spot in the knockouts, after Zaid Alam (43 not out off 19) and Hassan Khan (27 not out off 21), the captain, added a quick 53 to finish things off to bring up the 98-run target in just 8.5 overs.

When Ireland were put in in overcast conditions, their captain, Harry Tector, was hopeful that Jamie Grassi and Mark Donegan could provide a solid foundation, like they had against Sri Lanka in their previous encounter. However, they just couldn’t hold their own against Pakistan’s spirited display with the ball.

The openers put on 20 runs before the stand was broken by Arshad Iqbal, with Donegan holing out for a 16-ball 11. It was a steady slide thereafter. Afridi had Mark Topping (2) poking outside off for his first wicket, and then followed that up with the scalp of Tector (3), who after being peppered with short balls eventually top-edged to the ‘keeper.

The short-ball barrage then led to the dismissal of Grassi as well, and with their in-form batsman dismissed, Ireland were in dire straits at 34/4. Sam Murphy and Neil Rock then combined for a 30-run stand that raised Irish hopes of a comeback. They did well to stand up to the short stuff, and Rock in particular carried on bravely after taking one on the face, just below his helmet grille.

They inched the total past the 50-run mark, but Pakistan weren’t to be denied for long. Hassan introduced himself and had Rock dismissed with just his second ball – the attempted the sweep went straight to the fielder at short square leg.

Afridi then returned and mixed up his short-deliveries with yorkers to dismantle the rest of the Ireland lower order, along with Hassan. Graham Kennedy was bowled for a duck by Afridi, while Hassan found the gap between Murphy’s bat and pad, ending his valiant 40-ball stay in the middle. Hassan then had Reece Kelly dismissed for nought for his third wicket before Afridi had both Aaron Cawley and Max Neville bowled to finish off the innings.

All the while, Joshua Little looked to muscle Ireland past the 100-mark with a couple of meaty fours. He ended unbeaten on a 20-ball 24, but Ireland needed a lot more of that on the day.

With the bat, Pakistan wasted little time. There were 13 runs off the first over, six of those coming in extras. Alam then went about picking the gaps as Pakistan looked to finish things off early. Rohail Nazir was dismissed for a 14-ball 18, but Hassan then joined Alam and the two finished things off in a hurry.

Hassan and Alam added an unbroken 53, picking boundaries for fun. The two needed just 4.4 overs to bring up the winning runs, and Alam brought up the winning runs in style with a pull for six over square leg.

Ireland were understandably distraught.

Source link:https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/596122
 
Looks like the Irish were blown away by a barrage of short-bowling.

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Bring him in for Amir
 
Looks like the Irish were blown away by a barrage of short-bowling.

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ball in 2nd vid at 25 seconds looks a bit nippy
 
Nope Bangladesh did not make it into even one semis before 2016 and that too at home.

Do you have poor eye sight? Can't you see I wrote we were much better in the win ratios. Check the stats.

Logic of saying Bangladesh is a poor u19 team is because it hasno success in big trophies is same as saying SA is bad in senior cricket !!
 
Not seeing the forest for the trees Donal, 40 mil for a country that has only a couple of thousand cricket players equates to $20,000 per player. What more could you want.

You're neglecting the various other factors.

1) Administration. Any successful sports body requires a good administration set up to manage affairs. I think even the most ardent critic of Ireland can admit this has been one area we've done very well in. That said this requires money because ultimately admin plays a key role in advertising the game, arranging big game matches to attract fans and ultimately grow the sport.

2) Exchange rates. As of today every dollar equals 82 cents. So since ICC payments are made in dollars thats 20% of the value of what we do get gone before we even use it.

3) Ireland, behind Australia only I reckon, is the 2nd most expensive country who plays cricket at the top level, so what money we do get gets used quicker.

4) Take out all that I mentioned, as well as subtracting the central contracts which need to be much higher than 20k to retain the top players, subtract funding for clubs, subtract costs of hosting teams and touring teams etc and the final figure per player is significantly below 20k per cricketer.

Ultimately revamping the domestic scene is the most crucial aspect of improving our game. To do this requires at least 6 month contracts for domestic players so they can focus solely on their cricket for the domestic season instead of as it is now, where they use time off work to play. Also, increasing the teams from 3 to 4 or 5 is required and take it from me, Leinster, where the majority of our cricketers are based, could field 3 sides and experience no drop in quality thats how strong the depth is compared to the other unions here. Ultimately the money isnt there for these things, when if it was, we could immediately double the number of players playing our FC domestic game with no drop of quality as, as I said, one region holds so many of our clubs and players.

We've had these money debates before and I know your response will be along the lines of "You have to earn the revenue yourself if you want these things". This standpoint would be fine, even though I disagree with it, if it werent for the fact no other FM board is expected to do so much with so little. If NZ, ZCB etc had these issues I'd accept it. Afghanistan get similar money but as I said previously, their economy, additional funding from US etc, culture allows them to have 6 domestic teams with 200 full time cricketers. As it is similar boards to us have the same issues as us, they rely significantly if not almost completely on ICC money and India tours. And thats fine if everyone with similar issues (low self generated revenue, population etc) is treated the same, but they aint.
 
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