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Pakistan v New Zealand | 2nd Test | Nov 17-21, 2014 | Dubai | Day 1

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Rameez again spewing crap...that should have been given out, no doubt about it
 
Fielders in close around the bat, not as many as the last Test.
 
Aman said:
No it didn't, it always looked high.

It was going to clip either way, one side was going to be unlucky, this time it was Pakistan.
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we have been on the unlucky side for the past 10-15 umpire decision reviews, its pathetic
 
an attack of Aamer, Adil, Rahat/Wahab/Junaid/Sadaf and Yasir will serve us well in any conditions I know a lot depends on how Aamer comes back and Adil and yasir develop but one should always be positive :yk
 
Rahat Ali really looks like the weak link in this attack, needs to learn to pitch the ball up..what is the use of bowling short with the new ball?
 
Xoib said:
an attack of Aamer, Adil, Rahat/Wahab/Junaid/Sadaf and Yasir will serve us well in any conditions I know a lot depends on how Aamer comes back and Adil and yasir develop but one should always be positive :yk
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Yes that does seem like a mouth watering prospect if everything goes to plan
 
Tough call, but it happens at times.

My simple theory: whenever the umpires doesn't give it out and you are sure the hight is an issue, don't review as the ball will in most cases just clip the bails and you have wasted a review.
 
Aman said:
No it didn't, it always looked high.

It was going to clip either way, one side was going to be unlucky, this time it was Pakistan.
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Still its not a 'good' decision .. this is where DRS baffles me, if you trust the ball-tracking system and its clipping then why isn't it given out? Are borderline LBWs not LBW unless clipping more than half the stumps? The implication is that there's a doubt in the system if the ball is clipping less than half the stumps. It's no-one's fault its just a strange way to implement the system. If it's hitting the stumps itis hitting the stumps.
 
Hate these kind of wickets... zzzzzzzz

Hope we don't collapse, but still, it makes for poor watching.
 
Poison said:
Still its not a 'good' decision .. this is where DRS baffles me, if you trust the ball-tracking system and its clipping then why isn't it given out? Are borderline LBWs not LBW unless clipping more than half the stumps? The implication is that there's a doubt in the system if the ball is clipping less than half the stumps. It's no-one's fault its just a strange way to implement the system. If it's hitting the stumps itis hitting the stumps.
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totally agreed, if the ball is clipping the stumps that should be given out..and if they want to go the other way..the review should not go against the team reviewing.

A solid 100% decision should only take away a review not a 50 50 thing
 
Aman said:
No it didn't, it always looked high.

It was going to clip either way, one side was going to be unlucky, this time it was Pakistan.
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Its the dubai pitch, unless it hits above the pad, its always going to clip stumps even in worst case scenario.

On pitches like these its all about the line of the ball and whether it will swing to miss them. That pitched in line, no swing, height looked okay, it comes down to whether batsman inside edged it.

Anyways it was a 50-50 call and part of the game, but someone needs to tell Paul we are playing in Dubai, not the WACA.
 
Aman said:
Hate these kind of wickets... zzzzzzzz

Hope we don't collapse, but still, it makes for poor watching.
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Flat wicket if they cant play on this pitch then they deserve to lose by massive massiv emargin
 
Space Cat said:
the point of DRS being missed by a few people here.
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Yes yes its for the howlers but it makes little or no sense to say its 'doubtful' if less than 50% is clipping because it questions the integrity of the system itself.
 
Aman said:
If that call had gone against one of your batsmen you would have been saying you're unlucky :facepalm:

Just can never win...
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Thus the 50 50 decisions need to be taken out of the UDRS, need to make a definite decision.
 
Lol Babar is a quality bowler but he has the fitness of a 70 year old :ibutt
 
Benefit of the doubt goes to the umpire.

If you want change that then might as well have no umpire at all.
 
NZcricketfan said:
And the definite decision would have been not out
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How do you know? Need to improve upon the technology, just saying that would have been not out isn't really providing any justification, cause that could have also been out

It's not about giving it out or not, just the 50 50 decision need to be removing. Its annoying for the teams and the viewers.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
How do you know? Need to improve upon the technology, just saying that would have been not out isn't really providing any justification, cause that could have also been out

It's not about giving it out or not, just the 50 50 decision need to be removing. Its annoying for the teams and the viewers.
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he knows because he seen the umpire give it not out.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
How do you know? Need to improve upon the technology, just saying that would have been not out isn't really providing any justification, cause that could have also been out

It's not about giving it out or not, just the 50 50 decision need to be removing. Its annoying for the teams and the viewers.
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How do you remove a 50/50 decision? You can't. The only obvious answer is to stick with the umpires call.
 
NZcricketfan said:
How do you remove a 50/50 decision? You can't. The only obvious answer is to stick with the umpires call.
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This is why I am saying, need to improve upon the technology..ICC needs to take initiative here and talk to the tech people or provide funding to universities work on something more precise.

If a 50/50 decision, then the review should not be taken away from the reviewing team, its not fair.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
This is why I am saying, need to improve upon the technology..ICC needs to take initiative here and talk to the tech people or provide funding to universities work on something more precise.

If a 50/50 decision, then the review should not be taken away from the reviewing team, its not fair.
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DRS isn't designed for 50-50 calls, it's for howlers.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
This is why I am saying, need to improve upon the technology..ICC needs to take initiative here and talk to the tech people or provide funding to universities work on something more precise.

If a 50/50 decision, then the review should not be taken away from the reviewing team, its not fair.
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It is fair because both teams deal with the same issue. No matter how good the technology gets there will always be error
 
Poison said:
Yes yes its for the howlers but it makes little or no sense to say its 'doubtful' if less than 50% is clipping because it questions the integrity of the system itself.
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You can't say that because umpire gave it not out. We are only seeing the projected path and still it's only clipping the stumps. Got to go with umpire's decision here. One thing should be done. Opposition shouldn't lose a review in such cases.
 
Been very impressed with Ehsan. Has put on some muscle and got his speed upto 140, wouldn't mind seeing him on a plane to Aus.
 
Watching a leggie who can give it some rev is always great.
 
NZcricketfan said:
It is fair because both teams deal with the same issue. No matter how good the technology gets there will always be error
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Yes I agree that both teams deal with the same issue, what I am trying to say is that these 50 50 decision reviews shouldn't go against taking a review away since it's not concrete.

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] I agree, it is designed for the howlers but obviously teams are not using it only for those decisions, so the ICC needs to adapt to this change and try to change the rules or something to make it more sensible.
 
Big test for our batters, looks like our winning streak is over.

Has a draw written all over it.
 
NZ will test Pakistan, lets see how Pakistan respond batting last. Toss plays huge role in UAE.
 
OK let's see if this toss means anything.
 
Mamoon said:
Big test for our batters, looks like our winning streak is over.

Has a draw written all over it.
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Nah, just assume if NZ score around 400, and we collapse to around 250-280

I don't back our batting to chase 200+ in 4th innings even against Bangladesh

Draw is least possible result when Pakistan are playing
 
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