Pakistan vs Bangladesh | 2nd Test | Rawalpindi | August 30 - September 03 | Pre-Match Discussion

[FearlessRoar]

Bangladesh has historically defeated Pakistan in the 1st Test in Rawalpindi by 10 wickets. Pakistan, having not won a Test match on home soil since February 2021, faces a challenge. Can they bounce back in the 2nd Test at Rawalpindi? What will be the pitch conditions for the second Test, and what changes would you like to see in the playing XI?

Bangladesh Squad: Zakir Hasan, Shadman Islam, Najmul Hossain Shanto(c), Mominul Haque, Shakib Al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim(w), Litton Das, Mehidy Hasan Miraz, Shoriful Islam, Nahid Rana, Hasan Mahmud, Khaled Ahmed, Nayeem Hasan, Taskin Ahmed, Taijul Islam

Pakistan Squad: Abdullah Shafique, Saim Ayub, Shan Masood(c), Babar Azam, Saud Shakeel, Mohammad Rizwan(w), Agha Salman, Shaheen Afridi, Naseem Shah, Khurram Shahzad, Mohammad Ali, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Mir Hamza, Kamran Ghulam, Abrar Ahmed, Mohammad Huraira

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[Deewana Mastana]

Are they going to be able to dig up the pitch and make a difference?

Highly unlikely and we will see another dead pitch.

 

[PakHammer]

My team:

1) Shan (c)
2) Sami Ayub
3) Kamran Ghulam
4) Sarfraz
5) Saud
6) Rizwan (w)
7) Salman
8) Naseem
9) Mir Hamza
10) Khurram
11) Abrar

Long tail starting at 8 but not much choice with Amir Jamal out. I want to see that Aussie ruthlessness with Gillespie so he drops the under performing Babar and Shaheen. Let's see if he has the courage to do that.

 

[BouncerGuy]

My team will be:

1) Shan (c)
2) Muhammad Huraira
3) Kamran Ghulam
4) Babar
5) Saud
6) Rizwan (w)
7) Salman
8) Naseem
9) Mir Hamza
10) Khurram
11) Abrar

 

[MMHS]

Congratulations to BD boys & no credit taken off, I think PAK’s bowling combination was horrible.

The biggest weakness I see in PCT is their new ball bowling- absolutely no skill & idea with new ball…… it’s almost like a burden that they had to start with a new ball & had to change it after 80 overs.

That 4 + 1/2 bowling combination won’t work in Asia - in-fact won’t work any where apart from NZ, and may be in some conditions in ENG/SAF. They need to bring Hamza, who is the best new ball bowler - that rules out Shaheen for me. It’s an irony because Shaheen was unplayable just about couple of years back against same opponents - that’s what happens when you make your priorities wrong.

Aga is the most useless selection - don’t know what he can offer. 30-40 runs, couple of wickets here & there doesn't work in Test cricket - even Saud & Saim can give 10-12 overs each and probably will knock a wicket or two. Abrar was a must, particularly against BD - not the best team against wrist spin. Apart from that, I think this is the best available bowlers for PAK, not much options left.

Batting remains almost same as main failure was from Babar & Shafique- you can’t drop them, still the best two batsmen. Saim can be dropped but kid did get a 50 in difficult circumstances, got a wicket as well - deserves a second chance. For Aga, I’ll play a specialist bat - May be Ghulam or even Haris Sohail (if he is still around).

My XI will be

Shafique, Saim
*Shan, Babar, Saud, New Batsman
Rizwan+
Shehzad, Nasim, Abrar, Hamza


For BD, I think Shakib won’t play for an off-field issue; Taijul comes in his spot. Taskin should come back, probably for Rana, though I would like to keep the young fast bowler. Top 4 is lefti with 5 of top 6 are south paw - to me that’s a problem. Either we need to drop Zak or reshuffle batting pushing Mushi at 4 & Liton at 6.

If I were the captain, would have bowled first at Pindi.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Congratulations to BD boys & no credit taken off, I think PAK’s bowling combination was horrible.

The biggest weakness I see in PCT is their new ball bowling- absolutely no skill & idea with new ball…… it’s almost like a burden that they had to start with a new ball & had to change it after 80 overs.

That 4 + 1/2 bowling combination won’t work in Asia - in-fact won’t work any where apart from NZ, and may be in some conditions in ENG/SAF. They need to bring Hamza, who is the best new ball bowler - that rules out Shaheen for me. It’s an irony because Shaheen was unplayable just about couple of years back against same opponents - that’s what happens when you make your priorities wrong.

Aga is the most useless selection - don’t know what he can offer. 30-40 runs, couple of wickets here & there doesn't work in Test cricket - even Saud & Saim can give 10-12 overs each and probably will knock a wicket or two. Abrar was a must, particularly against BD - not the best team against wrist spin. Apart from that, I think this is the best available bowlers for PAK, not much options left.

Batting remains almost same as main failure was from Babar & Shafique- you can’t drop them, still the best two batsmen. Saim can be dropped but kid did get a 50 in difficult circumstances, got a wicket as well - deserves a second chance. For Aga, I’ll play a specialist bat - May be Ghulam or even Haris Sohail (if he is still around).

My XI will be

Shafique, Saim
*Shan, Babar, Saud, New Batsman
Rizwan+
Shehzad, Nasim, Abrar, Hamza


For BD, I think Shakib won’t play for an off-field issue; Taijul comes in his spot. Taskin should come back, probably for Rana, though I would like to keep the young fast bowler. Top 4 is lefti with 5 of top 6 are south paw - to me that’s a problem. Either we need to drop Zak or reshuffle batting pushing Mushi at 4 & Liton at 6.

If I were the captain, would have bowled first at Pindi.

Welcome back sir i am your biggest admirer huge fan of your posts wrote a great post i wanna ask you pak won their last series vs sri lanka with 2 spinners abrar and numan now both were dropped you think this was pak biggest blunder?

 

[Mohraheem]

Give Bangladesh a win and let’s move on from test cricket! We already play test cricket in Odi and t20 thanks to Misbah.

 

[Shafi]

According to Azhar "Same team will play." Most likely we will loose this match by an innings as some injuries are coming.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

My team:
1. Saim
2. Huraira
3. Shan
4. Abdullah
5. Saud
6. Rizwan (no other choices unfortunately)
7. Saifi
8. Khurram
9. Abrar
10. Mir hamza
11. Naseem

One can hope that with Saifi in the team he will guide Shan but that’s me being overly optimistic

 

[Dhakar Pola]

Are they going to be able to dig up the pitch and make a difference?

Highly unlikely and we will see another dead pitch.

I want a fast bowling pitch. we might crash and burn but I want to see what our fast bowlers can do. I dont think we can beat Pak again on a pitch like rawalpindi

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

According to Azhar "Same team will play." Most likely we will loose this match by an innings as some injuries are coming.

Abrar will play now no matter what there is huge public pressure they will have to play a spinner now

 

[Dhakar Pola]

For BD, I think Shakib won’t play for an off-field issue; Taijul comes in his spot. Taskin should come back, probably for Rana, though I would like to keep the young fast bowler. Top 4 is lefti with 5 of top 6 are south paw - to me that’s a problem. Either we need to drop Zak or reshuffle batting pushing Mushi at 4 & Liton at 6.

If I were the captain, would have bowled first at Pindi.

Shakib will play. in BD everything is possible

 

[FearlessRoar]

Shan Masood in press conference after defeat in 1st Test Match against Bangladesh at Rawalpindi:

"For the pitch for the 2nd Test, we have time until September 30th. Obviously, we will access the conditions and field the best possible playing XI, InshaAllah. I think we said we want to be adaptable. We don't want to be rigid. We want to be flexible and adaptable. And we want to place to be adaptable. Like today was a day where we had to absorb a bit of pressure, so if someone got out absorbing the pressure or trying to take the game on, it's finding the best way that helps you play the best. That's what our thinking is."

 

[MMHS]

Welcome back sir i am your biggest admirer huge fan of your posts wrote a great post i wanna ask you pak won their last series vs sri lanka with 2 spinners abrar and numan now both were dropped you think this was pak biggest blunder?

A bit different condition & opponent as well. I think BD plays finger spin better, besides there are like 6 lefti in BD line-up, 5 in top 7 - a SLAO spinner might not work. Abrar was a must, and if PAK plays two spinners, second one should be a specialist offie.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pak fast bowlers must be super tired as they are playing longer format after a while. To counter that will Pakistan play 5 seamers?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Abrar will be playing. But unless he can bowl leg spin i don't think BD will be too much worried as they are used to playing against spinners at home.

 

[FearlessRoar]

My Playing X1 for 2nd Test against Bangladesh at Rawalpindi

Muhammad Huraira
Saim Ayub
Shan Masood (C)
Saud Shakeel
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Muhammad Rizwan
Kamran Ghulam
Naseem Shah
Mir Hamza
Abrar Ahmed
Khurram Shehzad

 

[sweep_shot]

I expect another flat pitch.

We may see a draw. Let's see.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

My Playing X1 for 2nd Test against Bangladesh at Rawalpindi

Muhammad Huraira
Saim Ayub
Shan Masood (C)
Saud Shakeel
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Muhammad Rizwan
Kamran Ghulam
Naseem Shah
Mir Hamza
Abrar Ahmed
Khurram Shehzad

Shafique is class. Ayub is a dud. Otherwise I agree with that team. We really need to find a 90mph Test bowler though.

 

[offstump]

Pakistan will prepare an actual seaming wicket but then go with only 2 fast bowlers and rely on Saim, Salman and Abrar. 2-0 home series loss to Bangladesh coming.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan has to force the issue right now. That will give Bangladesh another shot at winning a Test against them.

 

[mominsaigol]

My Playing X1 for 2nd Test against Bangladesh at Rawalpindi

Muhammad Huraira
Saim Ayub
Shan Masood (C)
Saud Shakeel
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Muhammad Rizwan
Kamran Ghulam
Naseem Shah
Mir Hamza
Abrar Ahmed
Khurram Shehzad

Ghulam at 7?

Have Hurraira open, Saim or Abdullah alongside, No choice really, these 2 duds, one of em has to play.

Ghulam at 3, Shan at 4, Babar at 5, Rizwan at 6, and Sarfi at 7, Agha can be replaced by abrar


No choice really, we chose a crapola team so have to go with the few options we have. Ghulam amd sarfi are one of em

 

[mon858]

Can shan captain from dressing room and as 12th man on the field, otherwise we will be playing with 10 again

 

[ads101]

It’s not particularly nice but I’d probably drop Saim and let Shan open as he has to play as captain so Kamran can play at 3. We need an experienced guy in form in the top 4 with Babar and Masood not doing well.

Abdullah has done enough in the past to stick by a bit longer. While I don’t think Saim right now will do well in test cricket.

I’d bring in Abrar for Shaheen.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Cornered tigers to bounce back to draw the series 1-1

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think Sarfraz would have done better than Shaun

 

[big_gamer007]

prepare a low scoring sporting wicket and hope for the best.
That should be Pakistan’s strategy for second test.

 

[Barragan]

The pitch needs to be constantly watered and grass left on.

Make sure the grass remains lively and seamers run riot.

Only way for Pak to have a chance.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

The pitch needs to be constantly watered and grass left on.

Make sure the grass remains lively and seamers run riot.

Only way for Pak to have a chance.

a recipe of disaster for Pakistani batters lol

whole team will be in dugout under 100 runs

 

[sweep_shot]

Golden opportunity for Bangladesh to get a series win in Pakistan. All they have to do is get a draw. But, a win would be better because they can climb up in both WTC points table and ICC Test rankings table.

As of now, BD are 6th in WTC table (ahead of South Africa, Pakistan, and Windies).

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Bangladesh should drop Shakib and play Taijul.

Shakib lost form with the bat. Better to play Taijul who is a better spinner and okay with the bat (can hang around).

 

[Josh]

I think Bangladesh should drop Shakib and play Taijul.

Shakib lost form with the bat. Better to play Taijul who is a better spinner and okay with the bat (can hang around).

Bring Taskin in for Rana

 

[sweep_shot]

Bring Taskin in for Rana

I believe Taskin is injured. Otherwise, he should've been in the XI.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Golden opportunity for Bangladesh to get a series win in Pakistan. All they have to do is get a draw. But, a win would be better because they can climb up in both WTC points table and ICC Test rankings table.

As of now, BD are 6th in WTC table (ahead of South Africa, Pakistan, and Windies).

BD is now the clear favorite to win this series.

I think they should go for the win... any defensive mindset of trying to draw the match could lead to a result like Pakistan’s.

 

[Barragan]

a recipe of disaster for Pakistani batters lol

whole team will be in dugout under 100 runs

Pak need a win to draw the series.

It would be absolutely idiotic to produce another road or even a turning pitch

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Cornered tigers to bounce back to draw the series 1-1

I suggest that Shan wear the iconic cornered tiger T-shirt during the toss. It will definitely boost the team's morale.

 

[AMSS]

I suggest that Shan wear the iconic cornered tiger T-shirt during the toss. It will definitely boost the team's morale.

Then Shanto would turn up with tiger stripes painted on his face at the toss. What then?

 

[Usman Chadda]

2-0 is very much possible and I back Bangladesh to smash these losers to inflict even more pain.

 

[dravidthewall]

Pakistan will bounce back and win by an innings . Wounded tigers are more dangerous.

 

[mominsaigol]

2-0 is very much possible and I back Bangladesh to smash these losers to inflict even more pain.

Why did you switch sides? You bashed me for suggesting babar should go back to domestics?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Why did you switch sides? You bashed me for suggesting babar should go back to domestics?

What does my post have to do with Babar going back to ‘domestics’?

 

[mominsaigol]

What does my post have to do with Babar going back to ‘domestics’?

Well you said these losers. These would imply the playing 11 or the squad 15?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Well you said these losers. These would imply the playing 11 or the squad 15?

Unlike you, I am under no delusions regarding the skill level of our players.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Shan needs to go, Sarfaraz is a better batsman in Asian conditions and wont do much worse thank him even away from home, also a way better leader.

 

[asifp]

Drop Babar and SSA, their egos are too big and their fitness is not there:

Shafique
Saim
Shan
Hurraira
Saud
Rizwan
Aga Salman / Kamran G
Naseem
Khurram
Mir Hamza
Abrar

Honestly, I feel this is your best 11

 

[Energy]

So it's turned into yet another nothing-to-gain, everything-to-lose series.

Playing against C teams consistently and then losing to lower ranked teams has made Pakistan a psychologically inferior kitten who loves small crumbs of happiness.

While a 1-1 scoreline against Bangladesh would result in mass resignations across other boards, it will be celebrated with dignity within the PCB.

 

[mominsaigol]

Unlike you, I am under no delusions regarding the skill level of our players.

Then why did you critise me for suggesting to drop bobby when atm he's worse then Abdullah shafiq of all people.

I recall you hating on saud as well, what happened their?

Now who's delusional?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Then why did you critise me for suggesting to drop bobby when atm he's worse then Abdullah shafiq of all people.

I recall you hating on saud as well, what happened their?

Now who's delusional?

What has happened is Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel maintaining their current status as mental midgets, playing two of the most horrendous shots you can imagine if you have played even a bit of cricket yourself, and allowing Bangladesh back into the game when only sensible batting was required.

These two will never be able to make it big for Pakistan, considering their toddler-like mindset where even a bit of pressure leads to them throwing their wickets away like school level numpties.

You want me to continue?

 

[mominsaigol]

What has happened is Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel maintaining their current status as mental midgets, playing two of the most horrendous shots you can imagine if you have played even a bit of cricket yourself, and allowing Bangladesh back into the game when only sensible batting was required.

These two will never be able to make it big for Pakistan, considering their toddler-like mindset where even a bit of pressure leads to them throwing their wickets away like school level numpties.

You want me to continue?

And what did babar do?

What his thought process which involved getting out on 0, Then getting dropped 0 in the 2nd innings and after being given a life line gets 22 of 50 hahahahaha.

The whole mental midget thing is fine, I don't mind, my issue is you mocking me for suggesting to drop babar and now still being stubborn to admit I was right

 

[Rana]

Unlike you, I am under no delusions regarding the skill level of our players.

Well, yes you are. We have proven that extensively here

 

[Usman Chadda]

And what did babar do?

What his thought process which involved getting out on 0, Then getting dropped 0 in the 2nd innings and after being given a life line gets 22 of 50 hahahahaha.

The whole mental midget thing is fine, I don't mind, my issue is you mocking me for suggesting to drop babar and now still being stubborn to admit I was right

Okay drop Babar, and then bring in who exactly? Sharjeel or Sarfraz or someone else from Karachi region?

Your champ Tayyab Tahir couldn't hack it against unknown Australian kids, who else do you have in mind?

 

[Ahmed216]

Prepare dry pitch to aid reverse. Pak fast bowlers suck with the new ball.
Play a proper spinner.
Don't be afraid of losing to Bangladesh, they are a better side now.

 

[mominsaigol]

Okay drop Babar, and then bring in who exactly? Sharjeel or Sarfraz or someone else from Karachi region?

Your champ Tayyab Tahir couldn't hack it against unknown Australian kids, who else do you have in mind?

I don't give a kahoot, the problems lie far worse and bigger then they are, a trend started by Misbah who was it's founder, and 4 years of damage won't get repaired overnight.

My whole issue is why you had an issue with me suggesting we drop bobby when for 2 years his form has been worse then pretty much anyone in the team.

Falhar, Abdullah, Rizwan frequently outperform him in odi deapite him getting the ideal position at no 3. In test he's worse then even saim atm,

The situation is so bad that you lot are comparing babar to usman Khan and azam khan to justify this filth and refusing to acknowledge that their all filth.

As for saud, he scored a 100 on a phatta wicket which bobby cpuldnt even do that, and he also outperformed him in Sri lanka. Atm he's far superior to bobby, and calling him a mental midget is hilarious when babar has built a career of vanishing when Pakistan require his services

 

[Red-Indian]

Prepare dry pitch to aid reverse. Pak fast bowlers suck with the new ball.
Play a proper spinner.
Don't be afraid of losing to Bangladesh, they are a better side now.

Tough to know where to start with this Pakistan team who have no obvious standout strength but I think your best bet is to put out a decent sporting wicket and play old fashioned test cricket. None of this Baz-ball, Shan-ball stuff. Look to play long innings without worrying about run rate, bowl consistent line and length etc. - all the old cliches.

Basically, first rule out the loss and then seize the opportunity for a win if it appears. Just what Bangladesh did in the first test.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Tough to know where to start with this Pakistan team who have no obvious standout strength but I think your best bet is to put out a decent sporting wicket and play old fashioned test cricket. None of this Baz-ball, Shan-ball stuff. Look to play long innings without worrying about run rate, bowl consistent line and length etc. - all the old cliches.

Basically, first rule out the loss and then seize the opportunity for a win if it appears. Just what Bangladesh did in the first test.

This. Pakistan have no relative strengths compared to your average Test side - whether it's pace, spin, batting.

It's difficult to curate pitch with home advantage when you don't have any noticeable strengths.

Just make a normal pitch and try to do the basics better.

 

[Ahmed216]

Tough to know where to start with this Pakistan team who have no obvious standout strength but I think your best bet is to put out a decent sporting wicket and play old fashioned test cricket. None of this Baz-ball, Shan-ball stuff. Look to play long innings without worrying about run rate, bowl consistent line and length etc. - all the old cliches.

Basically, first rule out the loss and then seize the opportunity for a win if it appears. Just what Bangladesh did in the first test.

What's the point in batting slow and long when you don't have the bowlers to pick 20 wickets?

Pak should make result oriented pitches that aid spinners because pace bowlers are not fit, in second and third spell the speed reduces drastically and they start bowling wayward.

Dry pitches would also aid reverse, something that Pak pacers enjoy most.
If they adopt this template I think they'll start beating SENA teams at home in a few years. We used to do that in UAE under Misbah.

Pak lost the first match only because of not playing a proper spinner. Due to this Bangladesh took a lead of 100 and then batsmen felt the pressure of losing to BD the first time and we saw a familiar batting collapses.

 

[Red-Indian]

What's the point in batting slow and long when you don't have the bowlers to pick 20 wickets?

Pak should make result oriented pitches that aid spinners because pace bowlers are not fit, in second and third spell the speed reduces drastically and they start bowling wayward.

Dry pitches would also aid reverse, something that Pak pacers enjoy most.
If they adopt this template I think they'll start beating SENA teams at home in a few years. We used to do that in UAE under Misbah.

Pak lost the first match only because of not playing a proper spinner. Due to this Bangladesh took a lead of 100 and then batsmen felt the pressure of losing to BD the first time and we saw a familiar batting collapses.

That's a fair approach to take but you've got to build up to it. Have your bowlers practice on these pitches, your batters learn how to bat on them etc. You can't turn to these radical tactics overnight and hope the lottery swings your way.

For this series, I still think your best bet is back to the basics.

 

[AAli98]

My team:
1. Saim
2. Huraira
3. Shan
4. Abdullah
5. Saud
6. Rizwan (no other choices unfortunately)
7. Saifi
8. Khurram
9. Abrar
10. Mir hamza
11. Naseem

One can hope that with Saifi in the team he will guide Shan but that’s me being overly optimistic

So how do you tell someone who just scored 200+ runs in the game you’re only in because there’s no other choice? Pak must have some rich batting talent.

 

[Rana]

So how do you tell someone who just scored 200+ runs in the game you’re only in because there’s no other choice? Pak must have some rich batting talent.

You did that to Sarfaraz didn’t you when he scored 350+ runs against NZ and then dropped him a couple of Tests later

You guys deserve all the humiliation that comes Pakistan’s way

 

[Bhaijaan]

Cannot wait to see the Pakistan cricket team taking a lap of victory after winning the second test match against Bangladesh. It will be like winning the World Cup. The relief will be immense and the fans would be over the moon..

 

[CerebralPatriot]

So how do you tell someone who just scored 200+ runs in the game you’re only in because there’s no other choice? Pak must have some rich batting talent.

Their are about 10 keepers in Pakistan who would do a better job than Rizwan

You basically make my point. The fact that he scored 200+ runs and yet we were defeated by 10 wickets show that even if Rizwan does perform, his runs are insignificant

 

[Bewal Express]

Their are about 10 keepers in Pakistan who would do a better job than Rizwan

You basically make my point. The fact that he scored 200+ runs and yet we were defeated by 10 wickets show that even if Rizwan does perform, his runs are insignificant

Why do you sound like a Rana multi. Are you too scared to post under Rana or are you trying to make out that you have lots of support

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Why do you sound like a Rana multi. Are you too scared to post under Rana or are you trying to make out that you have lots of support

I know it’s hard for you Rizwan cultists to believe however the silent majority all know about what a con man this guy is

It’s not my fault that Rana understands this and has fought against the evil nexus that has destroyed Pakistan cricket

 

[Bewal Express]

I know it’s hard for you Rizwan cultists to believe however the silent majority all know about what a con man this guy is

It’s not my fault that Rana understands this and has fought against the evil nexus that has destroyed Pakistan cricket

You have proved my point. Why not post under your id on here. Do you think it makes any difference if you have another ID

 

[Rana]

I know it’s hard for you Rizwan cultists to believe however the silent majority all know about what a con man this guy is

It’s not my fault that Rana understands this and has fought against the evil nexus that has destroyed Pakistan cricket

Will continue to do so.

I’ve terrorised these cultists for many years now. The truth will prevail, I will ensure it does.

 

[Rana]

You have proved my point. Why not post under your id on here. Do you think it makes any difference if you have another ID

So…basically it’s only me alone in this world who has views that don’t sit right with you?

 

[Bewal Express]

So…basically it’s only me alone in this world who has views that don’t sit right with you?

Look at his post and you see exactly the same points made in the same way. Anyways it makes no difference

 

[Rana]

Look at his post and you see exactly the same points made in the same way. Anyways it makes no difference

The basis of his argument is the truth. The truth will sound the same wherever it is spoken. You should learn to digest it, my side has always been on the right path.

 

[Bewal Express]

The basis of his argument is the truth. The truth will sound the same wherever it is spoken. You should learn to digest it, my side has always been on the right path.

So your "friend" disappears and your back to argue. You couldn't make it up.

 

[Rana]

So your "friend" disappears and your back to argue. You couldn't make it up.

@mominsaigol @topspin @CerebralPatriot @emranabbas @GLORY OF '92 @RyanRyan10

Can we all make a conscious effort to post something all together around the same time so that the old man can believe we are all not the same person?

 

[mominsaigol]

@mominsaigol @topspin @CerebralPatriot @emranabbas @GLORY OF '92 @RyanRyan10

Can we all make a conscious effort to post something all together around the same time so that the old man can believe we are all not the same person?

, this guy is hilarious lol

 

[Usman Chadda]

I don't give a kahoot, the problems lie far worse and bigger then they are, a trend started by Misbah who was it's founder, and 4 years of damage won't get repaired overnight.

My whole issue is why you had an issue with me suggesting we drop bobby when for 2 years his form has been worse then pretty much anyone in the team.

Falhar, Abdullah, Rizwan frequently outperform him in odi deapite him getting the ideal position at no 3. In test he's worse then even saim atm,

The situation is so bad that you lot are comparing babar to usman Khan and azam khan to justify this filth and refusing to acknowledge that their all filth.

As for saud, he scored a 100 on a phatta wicket which bobby cpuldnt even do that, and he also outperformed him in Sri lanka. Atm he's far superior to bobby, and calling him a mental midget is hilarious when babar has built a career of vanishing when Pakistan require his services

Interesting how you are all praise for a mental midget like Saud Shakeel yet keep crying all over this place about Rizwan’s contributions.

So Saud going missing when the pressure is on and playing a terrible shot is alright in your book, while Rizwan scoring an unbeaten ton unlike Saud and then scoring a 50 in the second innings to save a possible innings defeat, is not good enough?

With respect to Babar, nowhere have I said he is the man under pressure situations. The reason he has never played a meaningful match-winning ATG knock is because he is too soft and disintegrates under pressure.

Doesn’t mean Saud Shakeel is not the biggest snowflake I have seen play international cricket.

 

[emranabbas]

Okay drop Babar, and then bring in who exactly? Sharjeel or Sarfraz or someone else from Karachi region?

Your champ Tayyab Tahir couldn't hack it against unknown Australian kids, who else do you have in mind?

What's the deal with Babar? Is he just going to play forever, never retiring? People ask, "Drop Babar and bring in who, exactly?" This kind of thinking reveals a lack of understanding, and it seems they’ve never heard of grooming new players or rotating the lineup to discover fresh talent.

 

[mominsaigol]

You have proved my point. Why not post under your id on here. Do you think it makes any difference if you have another ID

Bro @Rana And I don't have the exact same views anyway, neither do the rest of the people that were pinged just now.

It's just stupidity ki had hoti hai. It's been 4 years but you as a coach can't understand the fundamental reasons for why Pakistan went from a mid card team, One that would lose to Australia, India and get upset here and their by West Indies, but also ge strong t20 side beating full strength Australia, Beating atg England in odi in their home den, Beating sa and Nz and Afghanistan consistently and winning CT

To

Praying to God we somehow don't get eliminated by Nepal and Uganda in upcoming tournaments. The team is a joke In all formats yet you still can't understand this fundamental reason.

I'll explain it to you full stop, you destroyed an experienced captain who had a history of getting results including tournament wins for a clueless captain who cannot lead and you proceeded to now replace him for Shan who is another clueless captain but can maybe go to google and search fancy synonyms.

You brought in ramiz raja to curate pitches to make bobby work and you gave rizwan all his favourite positions to make him work and told the rest of the team to go to hell.

You brought in a coach and chief selector who was filled with SNGPL propaganda and dosti yasri cultures and when he got sacked you brought in guys like naqvi and now waqar who are even worse.

Even now you're curating pitches because you're too afraid to play Bangladeshi spinners.

You created an entire genre to just make babar and rizwam work and turn them into hype machines. Well congrats you made rizwan work as a player standpoint and made babar work as a marketing standpoint.

I thank you for your services as a coach.

 

[mominsaigol]

Bro @Rana And I don't have the exact same views anyway, neither do the rest of the people that were pinged just now.

It's just stupidity ki had hoti hai. It's been 4 years but you as a coach can't understand the fundamental reasons for why Pakistan went from a mid card team, One that would lose to Australia, India and get upset here and their by West Indies, but also ge strong t20 side beating full strength Australia, Beating atg England in odi in their home den, Beating sa and Nz and Afghanistan consistently and winning CT

To

Praying to God we somehow don't get eliminated by Nepal and Uganda in upcoming tournaments. The team is a joke In all formats yet you still can't understand this fundamental reason.

I'll explain it to you full stop, you destroyed an experienced captain who had a history of getting results including tournament wins for a clueless captain who cannot lead and you proceeded to now replace him for Shan who is another clueless captain but can maybe go to google and search fancy synonyms.

You brought in ramiz raja to curate pitches to make bobby work and you gave rizwan all his favourite positions to make him work and told the rest of the team to go to hell.

You brought in a coach and chief selector who was filled with SNGPL propaganda and dosti yasri cultures and when he got sacked you brought in guys like naqvi and now waqar who are even worse.

Even now you're curating pitches because you're too afraid to play Bangladeshi spinners.

You created an entire genre to just make babar and rizwam work and turn them into hype machines. Well congrats you made rizwan work as a player standpoint and made babar work as a marketing standpoint.

I thank you for your services as a coach.

@Usman Chadda your response can be met with this reply honestly.

But ik for a fact that you don't care so theik hai, Rizwan zindabad. Cause that's what you want right?

You want me to endlessly praise rizwan? Because Pakistan cricket revolves around a singular individual? First misbah, then Babar now rizwan? So sure.

Genuinely I'm not kidding I'll start praising rizwan on end infront of you guys.

But I'll still have proper conversations with people who aren't brain dead in regards to the current affairs that have transpiredm

 

[emranabbas]

Interesting how you are all praise for a mental midget like Saud Shakeel yet keep crying all over this place about Rizwan’s contributions.

So Saud going missing when the pressure is on and playing a terrible shot is alright in your book, while Rizwan scoring an unbeaten ton unlike Saud and then scoring a 50 in the second innings to save a possible innings defeat, is not good enough?

With respect to Babar, nowhere have I said he is the man under pressure situations. The reason he has never played a meaningful match-winning ATG knock is because he is too soft and disintegrates under pressure.

Doesn’t mean Saud Shakeel is not the biggest snowflake I have seen play international cricket.

saud shakeel mental midget? 11 tests 3 100's and 6 5's at an average of 60+ vs Rizwan's 31 tests and only 3 100's 10 50's at an average less than mid 40's

 

[CerebralPatriot]

You have proved my point. Why not post under your id on here. Do you think it makes any difference if you have another ID

This is the only excuse you have to deflect criticism about Rizwan. No substance, no actual argument, just accusations out of thin air

 

[emranabbas]

This is the only excuse you have to deflect criticism about Rizwan. No substance, no actual argument, just accusations out of thin air

rana back with his fake ID

 

[mominsaigol]

rana back with his fake ID

Mashallah @Rana Has so many alt accounts to talk to himself.

I wonder how he's made so many? All with different personalities and text styles and all texting each other at the same time with different IP addresses.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Guys plz stick to the topics it's not some ID thread