[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Saim Ayub - the real deal or a flash in the pan?

[RedwoodOriginal]

Look at Ghulam and Saud playing right now. The team needs another 50 runs and they have shown a bit of grit with good shot selection while others crumble around them. Test cricket is a game of patience and resilience but above all being judicious with an eye on an evolving match situation.

Saim will need a few years in first class to learn the basics. He doesn’t know anything for tests. All this wristiness means nothing because he’s playing on very slow wickets. If he was in Uk he wouldn’t last an over. This is why Abdullah is struggling. He hasn’t learnt his craft but still is gritting it out making an occasional 100. Those players Abdullah, Saud, Ghulam, Jamal are the future. Not yet Saim. In LO he’s ok.

Look I agree that you can't just pack the team with youngsters. Test match temperament isn't something that is built overnight. But it's not like Imam or Shan have that temperament either. I think the middle order is fine barring Babar coming back in at 3. But Pakistan has to develop some young players that may not necessarily have alot of experience but can be long-term prospects for us. Sometimes players need baptism by fire. And there is no better way to learn test cricket then by playing test cricket.

Tbh, he showed what he was capable of in his innings of 30 odd against Australia. He certainly looked much more assured against short-pitched bowling than most Pakistan openers do in Australia, where they are ducking for cover. I also rate Saim much more highly than Abdullah, who seems to have some very obvious technical flaws in his game right now that he needs to work on.

 

[shamaan]

No he didn’t! He scraped around playing very suspect shots

Can you please define Suspect shots and which ones are you relating to that were suspect.

 

[Abid Z]

Can you please define Suspect shots and which ones are you relating to that were suspect.

No. Watch yourself.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

This guy seriously needs to spend some time in first-class cricket so he can understand the basics of the longer format... every time he comes out to play like he's playing in some local Ramadan tournament.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Reckon he's the designated pinch-hitter. Use today's first 10 overs as a power play

 

[Amjid Javed]

Trash test batsmen, time to move on.

This guy makes imam look like hayden / langer

 

[FearlessRoar]

I think no one in Pakistan cricket has been more favored than this guy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849411271286022203

 

[Barragan]

He will come good and he needs to be persisted with in all formats.

He made 50's in tough conditions against BD and in the 2nd Test against England.

The potential and quality is there - just need patience

 

[BouncerGuy]

He will come good and he needs to be persisted with in all formats.

He made 50's in tough conditions against BD and in the 2nd Test against England.

The potential and quality is there - just need patience

Nope... He should be playing QEA games more Not suited for Internation red-ball atm. He botched the chase today... FLASH IN THE PAN confirmed.

 

[emranabbas]

He will come good and he needs to be persisted with in all formats.

He made 50's in tough conditions against BD and in the 2nd Test against England.

The potential and quality is there - just need patience

Yes

He should go back to domestic come good before playing international cricket

 

[Amjid Javed]

Should be dropped for next series. Garbage opener

 

[Barragan]

Yes

He should go back to domestic come good before playing international cricket

3rd highest scorer in the BD series and 4th highest run scorer in the Eng series

Why should be dropped?

He is scoring runs

 

[Amjid Javed]

3rd highest scorer in the BD series and 4th highest run scorer in the Eng series

Why should be dropped?

He is scoring runs

have actually watched this guy bat or purely just looking at stats?

 

[Barragan]

have actually watched this guy bat or purely just looking at stats?

I watched him bat as well

What are the others doing?

KG made a hundred in the 2nd Test, but who played well along with him?

Did you watch that game?

 

[emranabbas]

I watched him bat as well

What are the others doing?

KG made a hundred in the 2nd Test, but who played well along with him?

Did you watch that game?

Based on one game lol

We are at the bottom of the table on opening partnership tally out of all test playing nation

 

[Barragan]

Based on one game lol

We are at the bottom of the table on opening partnership tally out of all test playing nation

Based on the BD series as well

That one game score is better than the hundreds scored by Shafique and Shan in the the 1st Test

 

[emranabbas]

Based on the BD series as well

That one game score is better than the hundreds scored by Shafique and Shan in the the 1st Test

This is Test cricket, not some limited-overs game where you can get away with casual 50s. Openers need to step up and put massive runs on the board. In this format, piecemeal contributions won’t cut it; Test cricket demands grit, endurance, and big scores from the top order. Playing it safe or settling for half-centuries simply isn't enough.

 

[Bewal Express]

He looks good but doesn't score. More than technical, it's a concentration thing.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I watched him bat as well

What are the others doing?

KG made a hundred in the 2nd Test, but who played well along with him?

Did you watch that game?

Yeah I watched entire series.

Saim has plenty of shots

But has poor concentration, time and time again throwing wicket away close to end of sessions or drinks breaks etc..

I even called his dismissal in 1st inns before it happened

The guys has got a couple of nice 50s and then gets out. He has provided any indication he can score big.

This guy essentially replaced imam, who I think is mediocre. Saim is even worse then imam.

 

[Amjid Javed]

He looks good but doesn't score. More than technical, it's a concentration thing.

100% spot on.

Technical he ain't great either some of dumb shots he's got out are unforgivable

 

[Barragan]

This is Test cricket, not some limited-overs game where you can get away with casual 50s. Openers need to step up and put massive runs on the board. In this format, piecemeal contributions won’t cut it; Test cricket demands grit, endurance, and big scores from the top order. Playing it safe or settling for half-centuries simply isn't enough.

In Test cricket, you know the opening position is toughest right?

Him scoring even 50's is a major output for a Pakistani opener and especially if sees off the new ball

He is doing the hard work, which clearly illustrates his potential and only a matter of time before he gets a big one

Averaging 40 is very good for an opener and that is where he needs to be

Much better than the likes of Shan, Shafique, Imam etc

 

[Barragan]

Yeah I watched entire series.

Saim has plenty of shots

But has poor concentration, time and time again throwing wicket away close to end of sessions or drinks breaks etc..

I even called his dismissal in 1st inns before it happened

The guys has got a couple of nice 50s and then gets out. He has provided any indication he can score big.

This guy essentially replaced imam, who I think is mediocre. Saim is even worse then imam.

Imam better than Saim?

That's the most laughable thing I've heard

The guy who gets bullied by short balls even on Pakistani pitches

 

[Amjid Javed]

Imam better than Saim?

That's the most laughable thing I've heard

The guy who gets bullied by short balls even on Pakistani pitches

Saim the guy who can't even get 100s in these conditions.

Both imam and saim are mediocre.

I'd rather not have either in side.

 

[Barragan]

Saim the guy who can't even get 100s in these conditions.

Both imam and saim are mediocre.

I'd rather not have either in side.

These conditions are far tougher than the roads in previous years

You actually watching the games?

 

[emranabbas]

In Test cricket, you know the opening position is toughest right?

Him scoring even 50's is a major output for a Pakistani opener and especially if sees off the new ball

He is doing the hard work, which clearly illustrates his potential and only a matter of time before he gets a big one

Averaging 40 is very good for an opener and that is where he needs to be

Much better than the likes of Shan, Shafique, Imam etc

This is exactly what I’m saying—the opening position is the toughest in cricket.

A batsman who isn’t capable of scoring hundreds just isn’t good enough; at best, he’s a 50-run player. Hard work should be put in at the domestic level before coming to Tests, where the real challenge begins.

Stop bringing up players like Shan and Shafique just to make a point. Nobody seriously rates them as high-quality openers.

And if you’re using a 40-average benchmark, both Shafique and Imam average 40, while Saim averages only 26. Not sure where the 40 figure for Saim came from.

In Test cricket, you have to show grit. Poor Saim has only played 21 First-Class games.

 

[Amjid Javed]

These conditions are far tougher than the roads in previous years

You actually watching the games?

So the 1st test wasn't a flat wicket?

Also regardless of the surface or not he got out to dumb shots due to poor concentration, so that means the batting surface is irrelevant.

Keep rolling out the excuses for one of Pakistan worst ever openers.

I've been watching cricket since 1987, this guy is up their with the imran butt, and khurram manzoor as one of the most mediocre openers I've ever seen.

 

[emranabbas]

So the 1st test wasn't a flat wicket?

Also regardless of the surface or not he got out to dumb shots due to poor concentration, so that means the batting surface is irrelevant.

Keep rolling out the excuses for one of Pakistan worst ever openers.

I've been watching cricket since 1987, this guy is up their with the imran butt, and khurram manzoor as one of the most mediocre openers I've ever seen.

He's nota FC players he was picked based on PSL for LOI and then just been drafted in tests

He's only ever play 21 FC games

 

[Barragan]

This is exactly what I’m saying—the opening position is the toughest in cricket.

A batsman who isn’t capable of scoring hundreds just isn’t good enough; at best, he’s a 50-run player. Hard work should be put in at the domestic level before coming to Tests, where the real challenge begins.

Stop bringing up players like Shan and Shafique just to make a point. Nobody seriously rates them as high-quality openers.

And if you’re using a 40-average benchmark, both Shafique and Imam average 40, while Saim averages only 26. Not sure where the 40 figure for Saim came from.

In Test cricket, you have to show grit. Poor Saim has only played 21 First-Class games.

Imam and Shafique have been playing on dead surfaces and their averages are not 40, they are both below it

40 average in the context of tough conditions

At least he is making these 50's in tough conditions, whilst the others failing and that is something you're not understanding

I have to use the names of Imam and Shafique because those are his competitors

 

[emranabbas]

Imam and Shafique have been playing on dead surfaces and their averages are not 40, they are both below it

40 average in the context of tough conditions

At least he is making these 50's in tough conditions, whilst the others failing and that is something you're not understanding

I have to use the names of Imam and Shafique because those are his competitors

What tough conditions saim played on other than this series last 2 tests?

 

[Amjid Javed]

He's nota FC players he was picked based on PSL for LOI and then just been drafted in tests

He's only ever play 21 FC games

I'm fully aware of how many domestic games he's played and its no shock this guys doesn't know how to build an inns or bat for long periods and score big.

He needs to go back to domestic game and learn the basics.

When your well set and you keep playing poor shots. That's weak mentality

 

[Barragan]

He's nota FC players he was picked based on PSL for LOI and then just been drafted in tests

He's only ever play 21 FC games

Who told you he is picked based on PSL performances only?

The guy was averaging 45 in FC and with a double hundred to his name

Clearly, you have zero clue about the domestic scene

 

[Barragan]

What tough conditions saim played on other than this series last 2 tests?

Debuting in Aus, then the green pitches against BD and now the spinning wickets

 

[emranabbas]

Who told you he is picked based on PSL performances only?

The guy was averaging 45 in FC and with a double hundred to his name

Clearly, you zero clue about the domestic scene

So he made a debut vs Afghanistan t20 game based on FC lol

You have zero clue about cricket

 

[mominsaigol]

Imam and Shafique have been playing on dead surfaces and their averages are not 40, they are both below it

40 average in the context of tough conditions

At least he is making these 50's in tough conditions, whilst the others failing and that is something you're not understanding

I have to use the names of Imam and Shafique because those are his competitors

He played multiple t20 games including t20 games on school boy pitches against Ireland yet still flopped.

Then in test he's flopped in every game. So far he has scored 3 half centuries in the first innings, Neither of these 3 half centuries are impressive besides the first Bangladesh test game where he weathered out the initial storm as rain made the pitch a bit difficult to play.

Otherwise he's been getting roads and has been failing. He couldn't even help pakistan get a 10 wicket win chasing 36?

 

[emranabbas]

Debuting in Aus, then the green pitches against BD and now the spinning wickets

So he struggles on green pitches flat tracks and and on spinning tracks that's why I'm saying he's useless

Average 16 in Australia
Average 33 vs Bangladesh
Average 25 vs England

 

[Barragan]

So he made a debut vs Afghanistan t20 game based on FC lol

You have zero clue about cricket

Why you switching to T20 cricket now?

Been exposed about why he was brought into the Test side which you were clearly clueless about

If you don't know anything about FC then don't speak and talk nonsense

 

[Barragan]

So he struggles on green pitches flat tracks and and on spinning tracks that's why I'm saying he's useless

Average 16 in Australia
Average 33 vs Bangladesh
Average 25 vs England

Except for the first Test against Eng where were the flat tracks?

Clearly haven't been following the series'

 

[Barragan]

He played multiple t20 games including t20 games on school boy pitches against Ireland yet still flopped.

Then in test he's flopped in every game. So far he has scored 3 half centuries in the first innings, Neither of these 3 half centuries are impressive besides the first Bangladesh test game where he weathered out the initial storm as rain made the pitch a bit difficult to play.

Otherwise he's been getting roads and has been failing. He couldn't even help pakistan get a 10 wicket win chasing 36?

What roads are you talking about?

 

[mominsaigol]

What roads are you talking about?

Bangladesh test series, England game, 1st test.

The proper pitches he's played on in test are against australia, And the current 2 test games against England.

As for t20, Failing against Ireland on a 50M pitch is inexcusable.

He hasn't done well in both his test and t20 career.

He needs to decide what he wants to be, Does he want to be a one format specialist or an all format specialist.

Because I'm not too happy with my t20 opener opening a test game slower then Abdullah and Saud shakeel? Granted saud shakeel actually plays according to the situation and knows what he's doing. Saim doesn't.

 

[Barragan]

Bangladesh test series, England game, 1st test.

The proper pitches he's played on in test are against australia, And the current 2 test games against England.

As for t20, Failing against Ireland on a 50M pitch is inexcusable.

He hasn't done well in both his test and t20 career.

He needs to decide what he wants to be, Does he want to be a one format specialist or an all format specialist.

Because I'm not too happy with my t20 opener opening a test game slower then Abdullah and Saud shakeel? Granted saud shakeel actually plays according to the situation and knows what he's doing. Saim doesn't.

How was Bangladesh series a flat track?

Except the first few days in the 1st game and he scored in that

There was grass on the track for the other game and seam movement

 

[mominsaigol]

How was Bangladesh series a flat track?

Except the first few days in the 1st game and he scored in that

There was grass on the track for the other game and seam movement

The 1st test was a flat track.

You can't convince me that Pakistan scoring 556 and England scoring 800+ isn't a flat track lol.

 

[Barragan]

The 1st test was a flat track.

You can't convince me that Pakistan scoring 556 and England scoring 800+ isn't a flat track lol.

Read again!

 

[mominsaigol]

Read again!

If you're referring to the 2nd test, Saim's 77 isn't a bad innings.

But you need to realise that he's been medicore overall.

 

[gazza619]

If you're referring to the 2nd test, Saim's 77 isn't a bad innings.

But you need to realise that he's been medicore overall.

I think Saim has improved in the series and my view on him has changed. I would back him.

 

[mominsaigol]

I think Saim has improved in the series and my view on him has changed. I would back him.

I haven't seen any improvement. If 3 50's in a first innings counts as improvement then sure.

The best thing he's got going for him is age. But otherwise KG performed with a century in debut, Saud who people hated has been keeping up that 50+ avg in test.

Saim can't consistently be backed if he isn't converting those 50's into 100's and winning games.

And getting out today was unacceptable. How can you fail to chase 36? And have Shan masood the worst opener of the decade bazzball like non tmr?

 

[Barragan]

If you're referring to the 2nd test, Saim's 77 isn't a bad innings.

But you need to realise that he's been medicore overall.

Once again, overall you're looking at it wrong

He has played in primarily tough conditions and he has done well

Being the 3rd and 4th highest run getter confirms it

Others need dropping

 

[mominsaigol]

Once again, overall you're looking at it wrong

He has played in primarily tough conditions and he has done well

Being the 3rd and 4th highest run getter confirms it

Others need dropping

I don't mind playing him as Abdullah, Shan and Rizwan need to be dropped first, along with zahid Mehmood.

But that doesn't change the fact that he's been rubbish. You can't keep giving a player Ladla treatment.

He's failed in his t20 career and has been bang avg in odi.

Compare that to someone like Saud who deapite getting backlash and failing aus, He's more or less still performed here and their and he did so on debut.

Infact the biggest problem with Saim is that his 50 to 70 scores have come only in the first innings when their is literally no pressure as he's an opener.

The fact that he's failed in the 2nd innings and often gotten out when wickets of Abdullah and shan fall at the other end gives me the impression that he just can't handle pressure.

 

[Xoib]

He’s ok has potential can give you results in long term it’s Abdullah that needs the boot

 

[Amjid Javed]

Debuting in Aus, then the green pitches against BD and now the spinning wickets

clueless

Not once has he actually got out due to pitch conditions. Its pretty much been dumb loose shorts because of no concentration or temptemant.

So please keep talking about pitch conditions, rather then actually looking at how he's got out.

Prime example this test. Played a dumb shot 1st inns, 2nd inns missed a ball going straight on from the spinner

 

[Amjid Javed]

I called his 1st inns dismissal before it happened, 5 mins later he got out.

2nd inns pretty much everyone including stevie wonder said he would get out during run chase.

 

[Abid Z]

Imam and Shafique have been playing on dead surfaces and their averages are not 40, they are both below it

40 average in the context of tough conditions

At least he is making these 50's in tough conditions, whilst the others failing and that is something you're not understanding

I have to use the names of Imam and Shafique because those are his competitors

I think you are deliberately trying not to understand what Amjid is saying. Those of us who have been watching cricket since the 80’s are aware that Pak have never had a decent opener. Saeed Anwar is the only one. What has led to a few wins are that the middle and lower order was always very strong so openers and all rounder could be promoted up (like Afridi, Malik, Hafeez).

You can choose all the names you like. Abdullah, imam, Shan (as opener)

You can look at the past ones farhat, Khurram manzoor, Yasir hameed, Ahmed shehzad. Etc

All are bad and only score once in a blue moon but they are like mud on a wall something has to stick.

And then you have Saim in a category all of his own. He’s so bad he makes me want to pick up the bat. He has neither technique, nor temperament nor shot selection. He has absolutely zero credentials as a Test opener. He needs to go to first class while playing T20’s otherwise he will never develop his game.

Of course he should play PSL and develop his off spin for t20’s. I think he could be useful pinch hitter, but a test opener he ain’t.

The worst part of your posts is you come up with this line “he deserves a chance”. No international cricket should not be treated as a finishing school. Coaches helping players adjust to alien conditions and rectifying glitches in technique is one thing. You are suggesting he be fast tracked over another more deserving test opener. That’s unfair.

 

[Barragan]

clueless

Not once has he actually got out due to pitch conditions. Its pretty much been dumb loose shorts because of no concentration or temptemant.

So please keep crying about pitch conditions, rather then actually looking at how he's got out.

Prime example this test. Played a dumb shot 1st inns, 2nd inns missed a ball going straight on from the spinner

So you're confirming he has the skills

Which brings it back to my point of being persisted with correct

Thanks for agreeing with me

 

[Barragan]

I think you are deliberately trying not to understand what Amjid is saying. Those of us who have been watching cricket since the 80’s are aware that Pak have never had a decent opener. Saeed Anwar is the only one. What has led to a few wins are that the middle and lower order was always very strong so openers and all rounder could be promoted up (like Afridi, Malik, Hafeez).

You can choose all the names you like. Abdullah, imam, Shan (as opener)

You can look at the past ones farhat, Khurram manzoor, Yasir hameed, Ahmed shehzad. Etc

All are bad and only score once in a blue moon but they are like mud on a wall something has to stick.

And then you have Saim in a category all of his own. He’s so bad he makes me want to pick up the bat. He has neither technique, nor temperament nor shot selection. He has absolutely zero credentials as a Test opener. He needs to go to first class while playing T20’s otherwise he will never develop his game.

Of course he should play PSL and develop his off spin for t20’s. I think he could be useful pinch hitter, but a test opener he ain’t.

The worst part of your posts is you come up with this line “he deserves a chance”. No international cricket should not be treated as a finishing school. Coaches helping players adjust to alien conditions and rectifying glitches in technique is one thing. You are suggesting he be fast tracked over another more deserving test opener. That’s unfair.

Read his post and then comeback about technique and skills

 

[mominsaigol]

I think you are deliberately trying not to understand what Amjid is saying. Those of us who have been watching cricket since the 80’s are aware that Pak have never had a decent opener. Saeed Anwar is the only one. What has led to a few wins are that the middle and lower order was always very strong so openers and all rounder could be promoted up (like Afridi, Malik, Hafeez).

You can choose all the names you like. Abdullah, imam, Shan (as opener)

You can look at the past ones farhat, Khurram manzoor, Yasir hameed, Ahmed shehzad. Etc

All are bad and only score once in a blue moon but they are like mud on a wall something has to stick.

And then you have Saim in a category all of his own. He’s so bad he makes me want to pick up the bat. He has neither technique, nor temperament nor shot selection. He has absolutely zero credentials as a Test opener. He needs to go to first class while playing T20’s otherwise he will never develop his game.

Of course he should play PSL and develop his off spin for t20’s. I think he could be useful pinch hitter, but a test opener he ain’t.

The worst part of your posts is you come up with this line “he deserves a chance”. No international cricket should not be treated as a finishing school. Coaches helping players adjust to alien conditions and rectifying glitches in technique is one thing. You are suggesting he be fast tracked over another more deserving test opener. That’s unfair.

Ijaz Ahmed wasn't an opener, he was a no 3 but if he sort of counts then you can include him as well.

Axeman always brought his best against wi, Aus, India and Eng. He avg 50+ for the first half of his test career against aus and wi in their own den and they were the best teams of that era.

Too bad he was downright atrocious against other teams and by the later half of his career was very inconsistent.

 

[topspin]

I would still pick him over the likes of Imam and Saim Aslam (if he was still available for selection).

 

[Abid Z]

Read his post and then comeback about technique and skills

I always read all his posts. I think you are not understanding his basic point which is it’s not technique in isolation from all else. (If it was Asad Shafique would still be playing ) It’s not temperament in isolation (if it was Sami Aslam would still be playing ) it’s not about easy or difficult pitches either. A player can only deal with what he has. He’s had roads and green mambas. But so have 22 other players at different times.

What almost everybody is trying to point out is that as Pakistani fans we are quite used to really bad openers and have been for decades because the middle order was so strong it bailed us out or at least one of the top 3 would click.

What everybody is trying to point out is that you simply can’t have top three that comprises Saim, Abdullah and Shan. In all of this in this particular top three Saim is a walking wicket. He may get a lucky 50 here and there but it can’t paper over the cracks that he’s out of his depth in the most difficult place in the line up.

So he can only do two things. Move down the order as an all rounder(he has potential ) or just learn his craft in first class.

 

[Abid Z]

Ijaz Ahmed wasn't an opener, he was a no 3 but if he sort of counts then you can include him as well.

Axeman always brought his best against wi, Aus, India and Eng. He avg 50+ for the first half of his test career against aus and wi in their own den and they were the best teams of that era.

Too bad he was downright atrocious against other teams and by the later half of his career was very inconsistent.

Why do you mention ijaz?

 

[mominsaigol]

Why do you mention ijaz?

Well he's a no 3, so I thought it technically counts

 

[Abid Z]

Well he's a no 3, so I thought it technically counts

I’m trying to understand the connection between us talking about Saim and you bringing up ijaz from 30 years ago. If your point is horrible techniques can sometimes bring success I agree. But it’ll detract from the main discussion that there must be some unfortunate and very capable openers in first class that are wondering what they have to do to take Saims place.

 

[mominsaigol]

I’m trying to understand the connection between us talking about Saim and you bringing up ijaz from 30 years ago. If your point is horrible techniques can sometimes bring success I agree. But it’ll detract from the main discussion that there must be some unfortunate and very capable openers in first class that are wondering what they have to do to take Saims place.

Naw, theirs no connection and ijaz was a player I really like. I thought I should mention him since you said pakistan hasn't really had a proper opener since saeed Anwar.

While I agree, I thought I shpuld mention ijaz as even though he ain't an opener, but I think he's a close 2nd.

Regardless saim is garbage, less said about him the better.

 

[shamaan]

Both Saim and Abdullah should be dropped.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Saim Ayub makes his ODI debut for Pakistan against Australia in 1st ODI. How will his ODI career unfold?

He has already represented Pakistan in Tests and T20 Internationals.

 

[offstump]

Saim Ayub makes his ODI debut for Pakistan against Australia in 1st ODI. How will his ODI career unfold?

He has already represented Pakistan in Tests and T20 Internationals.

Went just as everyone predicted

 

[Kianig89]

Very lucky he is given a longer rope yet he is failing ruthlessly.

Test Avg. 23

T20 Avg. 14

Odi Avg. 05

 

[lazy cricketer]

too soft of a player but ok talent for Pakistani standards nowadays

fair to say not going to be a world beater

 

[mazkhan]

This why you don't select players based on tiktok videos

 

[FearlessRoar]

Went just as everyone predicted

https://twitter.com/x/status/1853284728968761819

 

[Savak]

Can't recall any other player get such a long rope without performances

 

[FearlessRoar]

Saim Ayub brilliant in the field, stops a crucial boundary.

 

[tahir_dj]

Tight competition between saim and imran farhat being the worst opener Pakistan have produced

 

[FearlessRoar]

He is showing some unreal energy on the field today, taking a fantastic catch to dismiss Steven Smith

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Loosing hope on him, he should be dumped before CT

 

[Kianig89]

Dud as a batsman

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

He really needs to deliver, this is getting unsustainable.

 

[Mamoon]

Thankfully he is opening, otherwise posters like @Rana and @emranabbas would be telling us that he is failing because he is being played out of position due to the selfishness of the seniors etc.

 

[emranabbas]

Thankfully he is opening, otherwise posters like @Rana and @emranabbas would be telling us that he is failing because he is being played out of position due to the selfishness of the seniors etc.

I supported him and believed he deserved a chance based on his domestic perfomance. he’s had a more-than-fair opportunity, but he hasn’t delivered.

Unlike you, I’m not into hero worship, nor do I have an ego that drives me to prove I know more about cricket than anyone else and then get upset if my ego is hurt, or predict a player’s failure with absolute certainty before they even play a single game or given a fair opportunity.

More domestic players should be given opportunities to strengthen the bench and prepare for the future by filling roles that will be left by retiring players.

Asif Ali should be tried as an opener, and Sahibzada should be given a chance in the lineup as an opener


It’s time we look for someone else saim has failed us

 

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I supported him and believed he deserved a chance based on his domestic perfomance. he’s had a more-than-fair opportunity, but he hasn’t delivered.

Unlike you, I’m not into hero worship, nor do I have an ego that drives me to prove I know more about cricket than anyone else and then get upset if my ego is hurt, or predict a player’s failure with absolute certainty before they even play a single game or given a fair opportunity.

More domestic players should be given opportunities to strengthen the bench and prepare for the future by filling roles that will be left by retiring players.

Asif Ali should be tried as an opener, and Sahibzada should be given a chance in the lineup as an opener


It’s time we look for someone else saim has failed us

Omair Bin Yousaf.

He outperformed saim in acc cup, And has consistently outperformed him in domestic in recent times excluding the Champions one day cup.

He's an attacking player

 

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We’ve been weaker ever since we started accommodating him. It hurts the whole team when you have someone consistently failing up top. And we’re playing him in all formats.

I think it even hurts his opening partner Abdullah to play alongside Saim. People are criticising Abdullah but Abdullah has multiple centuries in internationals. He’s nowhere near as bad.

I think Saim will eventually be part of our team but isn’t ready now and is being forced in due to desperation. We shouldn’t be blooding in players like that. They should naturally force themselves into a team. Saim is being given a run that no one else has got. Look at usman and saud have even been chucked out the squad and yet Saim remains as opener.

 

[Markhor]

Would take a half fit Fakhar over both these openers.

 

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Says the guy who thought Rizwan>>Inglis

You are clueless. Stick to making fun of Indian posters these days.

Every Country has a keeper better then rizzu. And that's a pure fact.

Stats don't matter in this day and age tbh. The 2 new ball rule has made it so that everyone has a high avg and sr. Gone are the days where a 40 abg and 80 sr like pointing classified you as an atg.

Even in test cricket, Thanks to doctored pitches from each full member nation, test stats can't be take seriously anymore either, Especially tests where 550, and 800+ scores are being made.

Only way to actually determine who's better is to watch the game.

Inglis is miles ahead of rizwan as a batsmen. As a keeper their debatable although rizzu was caught napping behind the stumps today