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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Saim Ayub - the real deal or a flash in the pan?

RedwoodOriginal said:
Alot of people were passing some nonsensical comments despite the fact that he has literally played one test match, which is not enough to judge anyone. But apparently T20 form = test form according to some posters. If some people actually bothered to look up his QeA Trophy numbers or the fact that he scored a double ton in the final then maybe they could have understood why he was selected.

Anyway, humble pie was served because he played a very good innings under pressure.
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He played a good innings but his inexperience is still their.

The issue with saim is that he gets out as soon as he tries to do something funky and he does that alot.

In t20 he kept getting out cause he tried to be cute 24/7 off the bat.

Even in yesterday's test, he handled the early pressure well, as soon as he hit 50, he was all over the play, and was looking to get out every ball.

He needs to cool it and have test level temperament.
 
Needs to find a way to chill out.

Way is Travis Head successful? There are so many traps set up for him but the guy finds a way to hide his time.

Saim needs to learn this, he completely stalled when Bangladesh set up the deep square leg and fine leg trap for him
 
Rana said:
Needs to find a way to chill out.

Way is Travis Head successful? There are so many traps set up for him but the guy finds a way to hide his time.

Saim needs to learn this, he completely stalled when Bangladesh set up the deep square leg and fine leg trap for him
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Oh man, you just reminded me of Brian Lara for some reason

Lara was the living definition of biding his time and exploiting.

Great batsmen.
 
As usual, Saim threw away his wickets when he was about to take off. LOL

This guy is temperamentally weak. I would still say that he is not the right choice atm for red ball cricket.v
 
mominsaigol said:
He played a good innings but his inexperience is still their.

The issue with saim is that he gets out as soon as he tries to do something funky and he does that alot.

In t20 he kept getting out cause he tried to be cute 24/7 off the bat.

Even in yesterday's test, he handled the early pressure well, as soon as he hit 50, he was all over the play, and was looking to get out every ball.

He needs to cool it and have test level temperament.
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I think you're overanalyzing. This is test, not T20. He is playing his second test match and played a pretty good innings under pressure. There's nothing wrong with player trying to stamp his authority on the game. When someone doesn't do that we say they are defensive. When someone shows intent there is some other criticism. Give him time to show what he is capable of.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I think you're overanalyzing. This is test, not T20. He is playing his second test match and played a pretty good innings under pressure. There's nothing wrong with player trying to stamp his authority on the game. When someone doesn't do that we say they are defensive. When someone shows intent there is some other criticism. Give him time to show what he is capable of.
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I've seen him play multiple games, so no I'm not overanalysing.

It's because this is test that I'm critising. Bangladesh set a trap for him and he fell right into it because of his over reliance of being funky. Dude forgot its a test match and can just relax and accumulate till the end of day 1.
 
BouncerGuy said:
As usual, Saim threw away his wickets when he was about to take off. LOL

This guy is temperamentally weak. I would still say that he is not the right choice atm for red ball cricket.v
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He will come good with time , he needs 2 years to become International level batter but sending him back to domestic means he will never develop further. We don't have any alternative options right now so have to stick with him hoping he's actually develop.
 
Shakib Al Hasan is Saim Ayub's first Test wicket - it's all happening in the 1st Test between Pakistan and Bangladesh
 
Can be developed in to a decent batting allrounder like M.Hafeez if he keep bowling more overs. Can be handy in both ODIs and T20s.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
well too early to say this but yeah saim played a compossed inning which i wasnt expecting from him.
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Everyone is overreacting to saim, Saud and rizzu's innings on this phatta track.

I don't rate their innings. And I don't rate saim or Rizwan.

I rate saud but not because of his innings, Because his free flow style and his innovative ability to disrupt bowlers line and lengths makes him a good asset.

Both saim and Rizwan are extremly one note.
 
One 50 at home against Bangladesh doesn’t mean much for a guy who has been given more chances than pretty much any other player in recent memory. He did play well under pressure to hold the innings together, I’ll give him that but he needs to score heavily and consistently this entire series and the next, and the next to overcome all his past failures.
 
Saim is still a flash in the pan. He will struggle in the red ball. Waiting to see him bat in the 2nd inning.
 
He is the future of Pakistan cricket. The fact that this pitch turned into a road later doesn’t mean that this wasn’t an absolute minefield to bat on when Saim was there. We were 3 down for nothing but Saim steadied the ship.
 
Saim is absolutely the future of Pakistan cricket.

Keep backing him and hoping for the best. The rest of the young batters in Pakistan will struggle to cut it at this level . They don't have the talent , age on their side(real age) etc.

A lot of future failures like Haider Ali in the wings.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Saim is absolutely the future of Pakistan cricket.

Keep backing him and hoping for the best. The rest of the young batters in Pakistan will struggle to cut it at this level . They don't have the talent , age on their side(real age) etc.

A lot of future failures like Haider Ali in the wings.
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Yeah he also definitely seems to be his real age. Biggest advantage is that he comes from an educated background unlike the rest of our paindu boys who have no hunger or critical thinking ability to improve.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Yeah he also definitely seems to be his real age. Biggest advantage is that he comes from an educated background unlike the rest of our paindu boys who have no hunger or critical thinking ability to improve.
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He also reacts very quickly to 140 + pace. The only other relatively young guy who can play that in Pakistan is Mohammad Haris.

But Saim's upside is ridiculously high compared to anyone else. Educated/intelligent, real age, time against pace, damn good fielder, clever bowler.

It should be a huge disappointment for PAK fans if this guy doesn't make it big time.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
He also reacts very quickly to 140 + pace. The only other relatively young guy who can play that in Pakistan is Mohammad Haris.

But Saim's upside is ridiculously high compared to anyone else. Educated/intelligent, really age, time against pace, damn good fielder, clever bowler.

It should be a huge disappointment for PAK fans if this guy doesn't make it big time.
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Generally a pretty likeable guy too. He was MOTS at the CPL which is one of the better T20 competitions but he stayed quite humble. On the other hand you have guys like Shaheen who is although talented, extremely full of himself. I could name others but it is a futile exercise since there are so many.
 
What might be the reason that Saim Ayub is struggling in international cricket?

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shouldn't be playing tests anyway, he's only played 16 FC matches ever, don't understand the theory of every player playing all 3 formats.
 
Saim has now reached his 50 in the 2nd test match. He has been solid in this inning and should be looking to convert it into a big score.
 
He’s a goner.

Shame because he looked set to post a double hundred.
 
Bro, you're playing Test cricket... That's why I'm not surprised he didn't score a century today

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This guy is too over-hyped. Should be left out of National team for some time until he learns some basic things of cricket.
 
BouncerGuy said:
If the gift is valid for 10-15 balls, then I will not take that gift. Not worth it.
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Some stroke makers start like that only, I still remember how much time Yuvraj took to start becoming consistent ( around 80 ODIs). He was still winning us some one off matches though, first task for Ayub should be to win a match or two for Pakistan, him and Zaman can win memorable matches for Pakistan.
 
This guys career is over before it even started. Pakistan cricket is in the doldrums.

has regressed rapidly even quicker than Haider Ali did. Always said he’s another Imran farhat type fisher. All style no substance
 
Saim Ayub in ongoing Champions One-Day Cup 2024

Matches: 3
Runs: 36
HS: 20
Average: 12.00
SR: 76.59

And also got bowled on his trademark shot, the no-look shot. What went wrong with him? Lack of talent or lack of homework?
 
FearlessRoar said:
Saim Ayub in ongoing Champions One-Day Cup 2024

Matches: 3
Runs: 36
HS: 20
Average: 12.00
SR: 76.59

And also got bowled on his trademark shot, the no-look shot. What went wrong with him? Lack of talent or lack of homework?
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Arrogance and lack of work ethic. Glorified his no look shot and thought he’s a star in his own head. Will finish with an average of 20. He’s another crapper version of Imran Farhat period. We’re are producing absolute trash batsmen atm. Shocking
 
This lovey dovey nonsense for saim shpuld end now.

This whole talent talent nonsense mantra is over for him. Even the most die hard fans of Babar, Saim, Shaheen cannot support such nonsense anymore.

These 3 have been jokes this tournament.
 
Seems to have low cricketing IQ.

Lots of talent but not much between the ears when he's batting. Everything is on feel, which is why opponents outsmart him all the time.
 
Still the best batting talent in Pakistan. Needs to be given a long rope. He scored 2 fifties in his previous two Tests. That should mean something.
 
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Horrible technique! Front foot still in the air after ball has been edged behind. Who is responsible for fixing this?? This kid is playing for the international Pak side.
 
He is miles better than Masood but he is underperforming immensely because he is more interested in showboating and living up to his reputation rather than grinding runs.

This is what happens when you get cheap fame before you achieve anything substantial.

He needs to go back to basics and completely rework his approach and shed his image. If he doesn’t do that, his career will go down the drain.
 
Mamoon said:
He is miles better than Masood but he is underperforming immensely because he is more interested in showboating and living up to his reputation rather than grinding runs.

This is what happens when you get cheap fame before you achieve anything substantial.

He needs to go back to basics and completely rework his approach and shed his image. If he doesn’t do that, his career will go down the drain.
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It's already down the drain, it's better to invest in Hurraira and Kamran ghulam who've shown more promise then him
 
Saim Ayub is leading the Panthers today in the Champions one-day cup game against the Stallions as Shadab Khan has been rested.

Let's see how it goes for saim.
 
He's back! Cannot keep a talent down for long. His critics, where are they? Yah, talk nah!
 
What's disappointing is that he bats properly with responsibility on his head and bats like a moron when he doesn't. That tells you that his own thinking isn't right
 
Some people will struggle to sleep tonight

Saim has blocked Rizwan’s safe passage to hide as an opener as other middle order batting talent emerges for Pakistan
 
Rana said:
Some people will struggle to sleep tonight

Saim has blocked Rizwan’s safe passage to hide as an opener as other middle order batting talent emerges for Pakistan
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Well a batter who fails 9 times out of 10 is still a flash in the pan I am afraid. I will not take this knock too seriously. Dont get too excited.
 
He doesn’t think straight, has all the talent in the world , probably even more talented than Babar as he can play spin better than him, but so was Imran Nazir and countless others , they just don’t become anything special aren’t they?
 
This guy will be our next international long term opener. I am pretty sure of it. He just needs a few years to mature.

I am positive him and Abdullah will be our long term openers in the future in all formats. Debates on what their ceiling is, but I think they will be at the very least decent and probably more than that. Saud will consistent in middle order. Shaheen will continue to be a force in fast bowling (I think his form will be up and down due to injuries, so I would focus on reducing number of formats and keep him injury free). Babar and Rizwan will continue in all formats till they retire (I think Babar will regain form). Fakhar will be excellent in ODIs until he retires. I think Haris Rauf will mostly be decent too.

The rest of our future long term prospects I’m not sold on. Don’t know if Naseem will make it, 50:50. Even less sure on Mohammed Haris. Azam I think it won’t work at international level. Have a small chance feeling Hasnain will come back to the fold, though he probably won’t. Am excited by Kamran ghulam but need to see him in internationals first. Imam it’s sad how his career has fallen away after investment and I’m not sure it’ll recover at this point. Not sure if Usman will make it or not (though probably a bit more hopeful than some). I think Agha has done well, but I’m still uncertain on his long term future. Shadab isn’t looking good anymore, which quite frankly is a bit disastrous for pak cricket given how much we invested in him, he was supposed to be future captain as well on top.

I don’t think it’s all doom and gloom. But in reality out of the newish prospects the only ones I feel that are ready now and will perform instantly are Saud and probably Kamran. You can maybe add Agha too to that. And they are all around 30.

I don’t think that’s a coincidence. I think the game has changed and batsmen now are only hitting their stride much latter in their careers. I think we have to plan our sides with that more in mind. I get people would rather get 20 years of performance from a 20 year old batsmen but I think that’s unrealistic these days. You get perhaps a 5-10 years of performance from a 27 year old batsman. That’s just how things are working these days. The long career batsmen I feel are only reserved for the truly outrageous talents like Gill, Harry Brook, Jaiswal. Guys like Saim aren’t that level, but doesn’t mean he’s bad, I think he’s still turn out very good in the long term.
 
Unfortunately Pakistan's domestic cricket quality has gone down drastically. Thats why their domestic stars cant prosper in international cricket. You need to address this first otherwise a lots of batsmen like Saim, Khushdil,Asif, Haider, Haris will be produced .

But among all these batters Saim seems to be the best .
 
Mainul said:
Unfortunately Pakistan's domestic cricket quality has gone down drastically. Thats why their domestic stars cant prosper in international cricket. You need to address this first otherwise a lots of batsmen like Saim, Khushdil,Asif, Haider, Haris will be produced .

But among all these batters Saim seems to be the best .
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Pitches are also culprits.
 
I will not take this boy seriously until he shows consistency and some intelligence. It was a good knock undoubtedly but he needs to be consistent. 1 good knock won't make an automatic choice. it could be another flash in the pan inning.
 
From whatever little I've seen, I can pretty much confirm that he is the best talent Pakistan has possessed in ages. He's easily more talented than Babar.

He's susceptible to swing, and will be unless he plays some county cricket, but he has the shots to at least feast on flat tracks that are dished out in white ball cricket.

He needs to be nurtured and given the right guidance. He's the kind of batsman that Pakistan cricket desperately needs.
 
Mainul said:
Unfortunately Pakistan's domestic cricket quality has gone down drastically. Thats why their domestic stars cant prosper in international cricket. You need to address this first otherwise a lots of batsmen like Saim, Khushdil,Asif, Haider, Haris will be produced .

But among all these batters Saim seems to be the best .
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Yes we need more Rizwan’s to emerge instead
 
Rana said:
Yes we need more Rizwan’s to emerge instead
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Babar and Rizwan are still Pakistan's main batting pillars and has been for last few years. If minus their performances from last few years and see what, almost nothing remains.
 
Rana said:
Made light work of Mehran

Pillars of sand?
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You can argue about the strength of the pillar but yes they are the two main pillars. I don't even rate Asif,Khushdil,Saim ,Haider etc in comparison to Rizwan ,Babar.
 
Mainul said:
You can argue about the strength of the pillar but yes they are the two main pillars. I don't even rate Asif,Khushdil,Saim ,Haider etc in comparison to Rizwan ,Babar.
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With all due respect

Don’t get gassed if someone from Pakistan smashes Bangladesh bowlers.
 
Rana said:
All I’m saying, Bangladesh Cricket fans don’t need to worship any cricketer from Pakistan who smashes them.

Get out of this mindset
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You should rather get out of the mindset of "one should not praise any opposition player". Wont you praise Liton, Mehedy, Mushfiqur who smashed Pakistanis just recently?
 
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