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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Saim Ayub - the real deal or a flash in the pan?

Saim
Sharjeel
Fakhar
Babar
M Harris

This will be a killer white ball batting side.

We can easily win T20/ODI tournaments with this.
 

Listen to his drivel. He kept using words like “Torra” and “Nuqsaan” when referring to Saim opening and Babar coming down to 3.

The actual interview where he cried about Saim is separate, I’m looking for it. I will find it.
 
Ahmed216 said:
I am not part of dressing room but captain does get credit when a certain player flourishes under his captaincy.

Saim was struggling before Riz became Kaptaana.
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Would you then blame Babar the captain when Saim was struggling under his captaincy?
 
Man this is so stupid.

This is like saying QDK is all thanks to Bavuma's coaching because under bavuma qdk scored 4 centuries in an icc event.

Bavuma trained and mentored qdk 🤣🤣
 
The lad is growing in confidence which is great to see.
Now we need other batsmen to follow in his stead, because at the moment he's the only modern white ball batter in the side.
 
Rizwan
Ramiz
Babar


These three all have it in for Saim. Do not be fooled by their words of praise. They will be the first to cut Saim down at the next available opportunity
 
emranabbas said:
I supported him and believed he deserved a chance based on his domestic perfomance. he’s had a more-than-fair opportunity, but he hasn’t delivered.

Unlike you, I’m not into hero worship, nor do I have an ego that drives me to prove I know more about cricket than anyone else and then get upset if my ego is hurt, or predict a player’s failure with absolute certainty before they even play a single game or given a fair opportunity.

More domestic players should be given opportunities to strengthen the bench and prepare for the future by filling roles that will be left by retiring players.

Asif Ali should be tried as an opener, and Sahibzada should be given a chance in the lineup as an opener



It’s time we look for someone else saim has failed us
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Here an example of the posters who are singing praises of Saim actually wanted him out and replaced by who as an opener? Asif Ali.😂😂
 
Ahmed216 said:
I am not part of dressing room but captain does get credit when a certain player flourishes under his captaincy.

Saim was struggling before Riz became Kaptaana.
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Many players were struggling before Rizwan took over as captain. It is important to recognize that achieving back to back ODI series victories is no small feat for a team like Pakistan. One of these wins was a historic triumph in Australia, and now the team has already started strong with a win against South Africa. This success may be hard to accept, especially for those who criticize Rizwan, but the results speak for themselves.
 
One of my favorite things about his innings today was his understated celebration after reaching his century. There was no chest-thumping, just a simple raise of the bat to acknowledge the applause, because he knew full well that the job was not done.

It might seem like a small thing to some, but to me, it showcases his mindset and approach to the game.
 
khyberlion said:
Same posters who wanted him out and replaced by sharjeel and Farhan are now lecturing others. As I stated before he by far the best batting talent in the country.
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It’s comical to see online fans rallying behind players like Sharjeel, Farhan, Asif, Yokozuna, Usman, and even the likes of Mohammad Amir, who’s well past his prime. Then there’s Imad Wasim, a smoker who can hardly manage a run these days and is only interested in T20 cricket because he knows he lacks the fitness for longer formats.
 
Ahmed216 said:
Of course. Babar was a poor captain
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Babar and rizzu are both poor captains.

Babar achieved the greatest bi laterals streak for a pakistani captain yet he's considered a poor captain lol.

You can win games and your players can perform but still be a garbage captain XD.

A player performing has no bearings on captaincy.

A captain needs to meet these criteria.

a) Their own performance must he good while captaining, they don't need to be the best player but they can't be useless either.

b) Squad selection and rotation is paramount: Rizzu literally doesn't get rid of no 4 and opening slot, clearly showcasing he can't put the teams and countries interests >>> himself.

c) leading and game awareness must be their: Hes good when it comes to bowling rotation, I agree. Field selections + drs is still rubbish though. So many missed run out opportunities cause he keeps putting Butter fingers babar in the inner ring lol. How is this different from babar constantly putting chacha at slips? I've never seen chacha catch anything in slips in the same way I've never seen babar catch anything in the inner ring, not even a dolly from Joe root.
 
Ahmed216 said:
I am not part of dressing room but captain does get credit when a certain player flourishes under his captaincy.

Saim was struggling before Riz became Kaptaana.
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Saim Ayub: "It was definitely challenging. We were four down and on this track you have to keep believing. He (Agha) has more experience than me and was guiding me throughout


OMG saim lying and giving all credits to agha
No mention of Kaptaana 🤣
 
22 yo. performing while the veterans are flopping about. solid prospect. hope fully the pak cricket politics doesn't mess him up
 
the important thing here is that saim kept his intent, when for all intents and purposes his career looked like it was going nowhere, and that is a positive, however lets not get carried away. south Africa has pacy true wickets where imam and fakhar looked great, but as soon as the pitches got a bit two paced they both struggled.

Saim is starting to look like he's leveling up, which is great, but he is still far from the finished package. All one can hope is that he continues to play aggressively and hope for the best. the real test for him in white ball cricket will be mystery spinners on two paced pitches.
 
khyberlion said:
Acknowledging your 30 years of experience of watching cricket.
Just pointing out your 30 years of knowledge where you wanted Asif Ali instead of Saim Ayub. Also pointing out the fact you people were writing him off when you yourself was. Hypocrisy
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Bring up the post where I said that, or just stay quiet. :shh

Asif Ali as an opener has always been considered a replacement for Babar and Rizwan, never for Fakhar, Saim, or any other opener.

Usman Khan as an opener has always been a replacement for Babar and Rizwan, never for Fakhar, Saim, or anyone else.

Tayab Tahir as an opener has also been viewed as a replacement for Babar and Rizwan, not Fakhar, Saim, or anyone else.

Sahibzada Farhan, too, has been an option as an opener for Babar and Rizwan, not for Fakhar, Saim, or any other opener.

I hope this clarifies things.

Every poster here knows that my issues have only been with players like Babar, Rizwan, Iftikhar, Shadab, Shaheen, and Haris Rauf — or anyone associated with the 'Rizbar gang, and those involved in team groupings, or players who have played 50+ matches and still underperform eg babar and rizwan

Secondly, I don't blindly support players like you do. If Agha performs well today, I’ll support him. If he fails tomorrow, I won't support him. If he performs again, I’ll back him again.

If Tayab Tahir or Farhan gets selected, I will support them until they give me a reason not to but they need have atlease15-20 matches to prove they belong at the international level.

Stop twisting my words just because I don't support your chawal captain rizwan and his side kick babar
 
ElRaja said:
the important thing here is that saim kept his intent, when for all intents and purposes his career looked like it was going nowhere, and that is a positive, however lets not get carried away. south Africa has pacy true wickets where imam and fakhar looked great, but as soon as the pitches got a bit two paced they both struggled.

Saim is starting to look like he's leveling up, which is great, but he is still far from the finished package. All one can hope is that he continues to play aggressively and hope for the best. the real test for him in white ball cricket will be mystery spinners on two paced pitches.
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Why would that be the test. Mystery spinners on two paced pitches is a niche and unlikely to matter on team’s outcomes overall on the long run.

The real test for Saim would be to consistently keep pace with world’s best top order batters and set Pakistan to post 350+ on flat pitches.
 
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Mamoon said:
He has only 15 FC matches under his belt & it shows in his approach. He needs to grind in red ball cricket & focus on his basics. It is too early for these “no-look” shenanigans when he has such poor basics.
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Another 160 IQ insight
 
gazza619 said:
This will only result in more pain.

If a guy cant score in 20 tries including minnows, than even science is against u.
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Yes,

It’s with physics and chemistry
 
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iPakistani said:
I've heard it all, Rizwan played a great match winning innings yesterday but Saim is rated higher because of his aspirations :misbah
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You heard it again

And again


And again


Rizwan is a fraud. Saim is the real deal.
 
Farabi said:
Why would that be the test. Mystery spinners on two paced pitches is a niche and unlikely to matter on team’s outcomes overall on the long run.

The real test for Saim would be to consistently keep pace with world’s best top order batters and set Pakistan to post 350+ on flat pitches.
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Because in global white ball tournaments, you will eventually end up on a two-paced pitch and have to play mystery spinners. Winning and performing in random ODDs and T20IS is pointless unless you have the all-around game to be consistent in a tournament where you will face all conditions.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
He needs county cricket now, they should send him.
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It doesn’t always work

Inzimam and Younis Khan both went to Yorkshire and Surrey I believe, they weren’t exactly the best from what I remember. They were still great for Pakistan at international level.

It was once considered a good gig for the extra £50-100k for international pros. Now they will look for T20 leagues to make that sort of money with much less work.
 
Respect to Shahid Afridi, who never gave a flying manji!

Respect to Imran Nazir, the most lightning bat speed of Pakistan history!

Respect to Kamran Akmal, the slayer of Dale Steyn at Trent Bridge 2009!

Respect to Sharjeel Khan, the best lacer of Pace in Pakistan on his day!

Respect to Fakhar Zaman, the mayor of slog sweep city!

Respect to Saim Ayub, the new hope! The brightest of talents!
 
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ElRaja said:
Because in global white ball tournaments, you will eventually end up on a two-paced pitch and have to play mystery spinners. Winning and performing in random ODDs and T20IS is pointless unless you have the all-around game to be consistent in a tournament where you will face all conditions.
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In a team sport, not everyone needs to share the same strengths or weaknesses. Other batters, who may not have Saim Ayub’s attacking flair, might be better suited to two paced pitches. However, such scenarios are rare. What’s far more likely in tournaments like the Champions Trophy and upcoming World Cups in India and Pakistan are flat pitches where teams will need to chase scores of 350+ regularly. This is where our team traditionally struggles, and I would prefer Saim Ayub and other top order batters to focus on enhancing their power-hitting and fitness to prepare for these common and critical situations, rather than fixating on the occasional subpar pitch that may never even materialize.
 
Rana said:
Respect to Shahid Afridi, who never gave a flying manji!

Respect to Imran Nazir, the most lightning bat speed of Pakistan history!

Respect to Kamran Akmal, the slayer of Dale Steyn at Trent Bridge 2009!

Respect to Sharjeel Khan, the best lacer of Pace in Pakistan on his day!

Respect to Fakhar Zaman, the mayor of slog sweep city!

Respect to Saim Ayub, the new hope! The brightest of talents!





Anyone else who pretended to be a white ball opener, Tum sab pe lakh di laanat!
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Respect to Saeed Anwar, the Rolex of timing

Respect to M Haris, the chaos knight!
 
Rana said:
Respect to Shahid Afridi, who never gave a flying manji!

Respect to Imran Nazir, the most lightning bat speed of Pakistan history!

Respect to Kamran Akmal, the slayer of Dale Steyn at Trent Bridge 2009!

Respect to Sharjeel Khan, the best lacer of Pace in Pakistan on his day!

Respect to Fakhar Zaman, the mayor of slog sweep city!

Respect to Saim Ayub, the new hope! The brightest of talents!
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lol Kamran akmal
 
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Saim Ayub has proved his critics wrong so far. Most improved player in the current lineup. He needs a good opening partner now.

Kick that Abdullah guy out. He is pathetic and he is stopping saim's development.
 
Rana said:
You have to be extremely sad to give credit to Rizwan for Saim’s development.

-This is the same Rizwan who batted Saim at 3 knowing the form he was in for the first T20i against SA so he and Babar can open

-This is the same Rizwan who didn’t fight or ask the management to pick Saim for the T20is against Australia, knowing it opens up the spot for him to open regardless.

-This is the same Rizwan who went on air to cry about Saim being inducted into the T20i team against NZ and opening the innings, saying it has broken up the nation’s favourite jodi of Babar and Rizwan.

There are also reports by Journalists in the know that claimed Rizwan also during a team meeting during the NZ series smirked or made a sarcastic remark when Rizwan was being praised for whatever reason.



Rizwan deserves 0 credit for Saim. He deserves 100% credit for doing things that have destroyed the growth of Pakistan cricket.
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Rizwan and Babar did everything to destroy Saim. They did not let him open even in PSL. These two players are cancer to youngsters and Pakistan cricket.
 
Couple of things about Saim Ayub that I really like.
He is one of the best batters of 140 kph plus bowling i have seen from Pak. Saw him come down the wicket and hit Ihsanullah in Psl and knew he had incredible reflexes and time to play pace. Plays the short ball really well, a very important skill. Haider ali for example gets rushed and cramped when facing quick hard lengths
Another good thing about him is that he is a pretty decent player of spin. So can build on starts. Thats a weakness in Muhammad Haris’s game who is another good player of genuine pace.

Saim will continuously need to improve his game against swing, the good thing is he seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Pakistan need to find other natural strokeplayers who are good against quick hard lengths.
 
He needs to be paired with Maaz Sadaqat who is a very similar type of player and can play genuine pace and bounce with ease , just not good enough against moving ball yet but he can learn. Also a good player against spin as well plus a good 6th bowling option as well.
 
Babar vacated his opening slot for Saim and Saim couldn’t do anything for 15-20 matches and played with a poor SR. In spite of this, Pakistan did not drop him.

This shows that Babar and Rizwan wanted to nurture him and be patient with him. Yesterday, he played at a SR of 50-60 for the first half of his innings.

0 IQ fans not understand that you do not need to be “aggressive” and show “intent” at all times because learning to play according to the situamust learn to succeed at this level.

Saim did not play any no look shots early in his innings yesterday and did not resort to any of the shenanigans that have prevented him from doctoring consistently until this point, and it was great to see and we have to give credit to Babar and Rizwan for nurturing him and giving him the guidance that he requires.

Rizwan as captain and Babar as batting mentor is the best thing that could have happened to Saim at this stage of his career.

If he still can’t make it it in the long term he will only have himself to blame, because Pakistan cricket has equipped him with all the tools to succeed.

It must be pointed out that the only person who has actively tried to sabotage his career so far is Aqib Javed himself, who dropped him for the Australia T20 series and gave preference to Sahibzada Farhan, when even a brain dead fool can tell that Sahibzada Farhan offers no benefits over Saim in T20 cricket.

For Saim to succeed in the long term, apart from his own hard work and dedication, he must remain under the tutelage of Babar and Rizwan and kept away from people like Aqib. The sooner Pakistan get rid of this phony character, the better.
 
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ElRaja said:
the important thing here is that saim kept his intent, when for all intents and purposes his career looked like it was going nowhere, and that is a positive, however lets not get carried away. south Africa has pacy true wickets where imam and fakhar looked great, but as soon as the pitches got a bit two paced they both struggled.

Saim is starting to look like he's leveling up, which is great, but he is still far from the finished package. All one can hope is that he continues to play aggressively and hope for the best. the real test for him in white ball cricket will be mystery spinners on two paced pitches.
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Boland Park is not a true, pacy wicket. It was a really good knock because the wicket actually starts off very 2 paced.

Saim had to bide his time and wait for conditions to ease out before stepping up the ante.

It was a very controlled innings and he paced the knock to a T.
 
Saim
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Haider
Salman
Haris
Jamal
Naseem
Shaheen
Abrar


Agha and Saim share 10 overs. This lineup has great potential. Should back haris and haider like Saim was backed. Don't be impatient with them.
 
ataullah said:
Saim
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Haider
Salman
Haris
Jamal
Naseem
Shaheen
Abrar


Agha and Saim share 10 overs. This lineup has great potential. Should back haris and haider like Saim was backed. Don't be impatient with them.
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Yeah we can’t take you seriously when you suggest Rizwan at 4

That’s a sign of cluelessness
 
I think this is a prime example of why sometimes it’s important to show persistence and patience when giving raw talent a chance at top level. It takes time to settle and adjust.

Obviously Saim has received a very special treatment from PCB because usually they are not so patience and are far more ruthless.

Saim is growing in confidence, seems to be playing with more purpose and care. Consistency is the key now.
 
Mamoon said:
Babar vacated his opening slot for Saim and Saim couldn’t do anything for 15-20 matches and played with a poor SR. In spite of this, Pakistan did not drop him.

This shows that Babar and Rizwan wanted to nurture him and be patient with him. Yesterday, he played at a SR of 50-60 for the first half of his innings.

0 IQ fans not understand that you do not need to be “aggressive” and show “intent” at all times because learning to play according to the situamust learn to succeed at this level.

Saim did not play any no look shots early in his innings yesterday and did not resort to any of the shenanigans that have prevented him from doctoring consistently until this point, and it was great to see and we have to give credit to Babar and Rizwan for nurturing him and giving him the guidance that he requires.

Rizwan as captain and Babar as batting mentor is the best thing that could have happened to Saim at this stage of his career.

If he still can’t make it it in the long term he will only have himself to blame, because Pakistan cricket has equipped him with all the tools to succeed.

It must be pointed out that the only person who has actively tried to sabotage his career so far is Aqib Javed himself, who dropped him for the Australia T20 series and gave preference to Sahibzada Farhan, when even a brain dead fool can tell that Sahibzada Farhan offers no benefits over Saim in T20 cricket.

For Saim to succeed in the long term, apart from his own hard work and dedication, he must remain under the tutelage of Babar and Rizwan and kept away from people like Aqib. The sooner Pakistan get rid of this phony character, the better.
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One thing to praise a captain for persisting with saim.

Another to act like their his batting coach and batting mentors.
 
Saim should learn what from Rizwan?

How to fluff an innings and then shift the blame on the bowlers or others?
 
Rana said:
Your prayer should be:

“InshaAllah Rizwan continues to survive thanks to Saim”
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Rizwan's a legend of Pak cricket. It has got nothing to with rise of Saim.

By the time Kaptaana leaves I want him to give us more gems like Saim.

Yesterday he turned Agha Salman into Agha Swann. Salman was giving him credit on-field
 
Rana said:
Your prayer should be:

“InshaAllah Rizwan continues to survive thanks to Saim”
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Saim ayub will surpass fakhar most likely. He obviously isn't their yet.

However he has a more compact technique, never struggles against spin, only struggles against pace early on, A very very good backfoot etc.

I genuinely believe he will Pakistan's first atg since Younis, Yk was a test atg while saim will fulfil the criteria for all format atg.

An all format atg usually have an avg of 40+ in both test and odi and a monster sr followed by centuries againat top teams overseas and many icc event performances.

Saim in his short career has butchered Rabada, Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins etc

I don't think he'll be a test atg or odi atg, since I don't see him being a 50+ avg test specialist.

But I see him finishing his career with 25 odi and test centuries with a 40 avg in both formats followed by icc event knocks and a monster t20 sr.

Fakhar would be up here if pcb didn't mismanageme him since his odi inconsistency and t20 performance makes him only a modern day great. Not an atg.
 
The persistence with Saim paid off, truly great innings yesterday, so balanced and composed, got his century but didn't celebrate as the job wasn't done. He's only 22!

Credit must be given to Babar and Rizwan who persisted with him after over 15 failures. They saw his talent and let him fail and it paid off in the end! Well done Saim.
 
iPakistani said:
The persistence with Saim paid off, truly great innings yesterday, so balanced and composed, got his century but didn't celebrate as the job wasn't done. He's only 22!

Credit must be given to Babar and Rizwan who persisted with him after over 15 failures. They saw his talent and let him fail and it paid off in the end! Well done Saim.
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Credit must be given to cricket fans too for finally realising Saim is better than Babar and Rizwan
 
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Rana said:
Credit must be given to cricket fans too for finally realising Saim is better than Babar and Rizwan
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He's not better than Babar but could be eventually. If he does then we must give credit to Rizwan and Babar who let him play after multiple failures when most people lost hope.
 
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iPakistani said:
He's not better than Babar but could be eventually. If he does then we must give credit to Rizwan and Babar who let him play after multiple failures when most people lost hope.
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Right at this moment (and to some extent before), Saim is 100% better than Babar. Digest this truth.
 
Rana said:
Right at this moment (and to some extent before), Saim is 100% better than Babar. Digest this truth.
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Well RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT Saim is 100% better than Kohli.

Does that mean anything?
 
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iPakistani said:
Covid 19 cricket fan spotted. Well RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT Saim is 100% better than Kohli.

Does that mean anything? Covid 19 cricket fan.
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Just because Saim is head and shoulders a better player than Babar doesn’t mean we start dreaming of Kohli comparisons. Babar’s competition was Harry Tector from Ireland, maybe Ibrahim Zadran from Afghanistan
 
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Mamoon said:
Saim did not play any no look shots early in his innings yesterday and did not resort to any of the shenanigans that have prevented him from doctoring consistently until this point
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It’s amazing how Saim put away his no look shot, whilst Babar and Rizwan stopped looking at the ball and required run rate entirely.
 
iPakistani said:
Well RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT Saim is 100% better than Kohli.

Does that mean anything?
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No he isn't.

Kohli is a has been in test cricket however he still recently hit a century in aus with Steve smith hitting in in the 3rd test.

Saim on much friendlier roads couldn't do it and played crap innings against Bangladesh and England.

Then in t20, Saim finally scored his first proper score 98 not out which is good, but kohli is retired. If you're talking about wc 2024, kohli still outperformed saim in that cup.

In odi, Kohli has been consistently ahead.

Don't get me wrong, Saim is catching up and he'll probs pass Current kohli very soon but the gulf between current kohli is still >>>>>>>>>>>> Current babar.

Current babar ain't doing anything in aus or a 2024 t20 final lol
 
mominsaigol said:
No he isn't.

Kohli is a has been in test cricket however he still recently hit a century in aus with Steve smith hitting in in the 3rd test.

Saim on much friendlier roads couldn't do it and played crap innings against Bangladesh and England.

Then in t20, Saim finally scored his first proper score 98 not out which is good, but kohli is retired. If you're talking about wc 2024, kohli still outperformed saim in that cup.

In odi, Kohli has been consistently ahead.

Don't get me wrong, Saim is catching up and he'll probs pass Current kohli very soon but the gulf between current kohli is still >>>>>>>>>>>> Current babar.

Current babar ain't doing anything in aus or a 2024 t20 final lol
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These fans still living in delusions of comparisons.


Pakistan jaye bhaar main!
 
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Shaheen Shah Afridi posted an Instagram story to praise Saim Ayub.

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So why is he not showing his ability in domestic?

Fakhar and Saim.
 
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Saim Ayub created a new record during 1st ODI against South Africa at Boland Park

The 22-year-old scored 109 runs off 119 balls, becoming the youngest player to score an ODI century against South Africa while chasing.

He achieved this at 22 years, breaking the previous record set by Brian Lara in 1993, who was 23 years and 297 days old at the time.
 
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