[Report] ICC informs the PCB that India has refused to travel to Pakistan for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 [Updated Post #418]

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

There are 100s of boards dependent on ICCs revenue, BCCI only plays bilateral with handful of countries

Bhai, thodi effort maar lo to get the facts. 90% of ICC revenue comes from broadcasting rights in India. Its the ICC revenue that gets shared to all the 100s of cricket boards all over the world. 50% of PCB revenue comes from this ICC revenue share, for other tiny boards it will go upto 90% or even more.
Now Imagine, if ICC has loses 90% of its revenue where will the tiny boards like Zimb, SA, Bangladesh, SL, Netherlands, Kenya, Uganda, Namibia get their funds from?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

How do you see Waqar Younis's comment on Hindus after Dubai T20 game? The fans in Ahmedabad hurled religious chants on Rizwan as he wears religion on his chest and also likes of Waqar was taking pride in it sitting on tv studios. I am not favouring the behaviour of the fans but they are what they are - 'fans' where as Waqar Younis is a legend of the game. Of course Al Jazeera will link everything to Islamophobia

You say that you are not defending the behavior of the fans while also saying that those chants were hurled at Rizwan because he "wears religion on his chest."

Not only are your statements contradictory but they also read like a justification for the behavior of the Indian fans that day.

You're basically saying that he was abused with religious chants because he is a religious person. Think about how deeply bigoted that is for a second because I don't really think you have.

Also, if you bothered to read the article, all the sources quoted in that article are Indian journalists who were in the stadium that day.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

You say that you are not defending the behavior of the fans while also saying that those chants were hurled at Rizwan because he "wears religion on his chest."

Not only are your statements contradictory but they also read like a justification for the behavior of the Indian fans that day.

You're basically saying that he was abused with religious chants because he is a religious person. Think about how deeply bigoted that is for a second because I don't really think you have.

Also, if you bothered to read the article, all the sources quoted in that article are Indian journalists who were in the stadium that day.

Honestly, like politics, overt display of religion should have no place on a sports field!

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

How do you see Waqar Younis's comment on Hindus after Dubai T20 game? The fans in Ahmedabad hurled religious chants on Rizwan as he wears religion on his chest and also likes of Waqar was taking pride in it sitting on tv studios. I am not favouring the behaviour of the fans but they are what they are - 'fans' where as Waqar Younis is a legend of the game. Of course Al Jazeera will link everything to Islamophobia

I don't think anyone denies that Waqar's comments were deeply bigoted and ignorant. They were widely condemned by everyone on this forum when they were said. But that is a completely separate incident that has nothing to do with the behavior of Indian fans in that Ahmedabad World Cup match.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Bhai, thodi effort maar lo to get the facts. 90% of ICC revenue comes from broadcasting rights in India. Its the ICC revenue that gets shared to all the 100s of cricket boards all over the world. 50% of PCB revenue comes from this ICC revenue share, for other tiny boards it will go upto 90% or even more.
Now Imagine, if ICC has loses 90% of its revenue where will the tiny boards like Zimb, SA, Bangladesh, SL, Netherlands, Kenya, Uganda, Namibia get their funds from?

A big share in that 90 or whatever revenue comes from India Pakistan match in ICC tournament, it's not a secret.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Honestly, like politics, overt display of religion should have no place on a sports field!

That's not for you to decide. If a person is religious they have every right to express that. That certainly doesn't give bigoted fans the right to abuse him over his beliefs.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Honestly, like politics, overt display of religion should have no place on a sports field!

Maybe you can tell that to your cricket team that the next time they come out to play a match in camouflage caps.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

A big share in that 90 or whatever revenue comes from India Pakistan match in ICC tournament, it's not a secret.

Really?? How?? Again, just don't go about random imaginary facts in your mind. Get the actual facts before making such fantastical claims.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Maybe you can tell that to your cricket team that the next time they come out to play a match in camouflage caps.

Trust me dude, you are just a little kid on this "what aboutism". For every little point you make, their far more egregious acts done by your Pakistani compatriots and players. World simply ignores the crap done by Pakistan and India is not in such a habit of crying about little things.

 

[khyberlion]

My theory is that BCCI wouldn’t refuse to tour if Pakistan didn’t appoint Rizwan as captain. The guy would try to make this all about the will of God….






I’m joking I’m joking everyone. Don’t shoot me for this

Knowing how much you dislike rizwan this is probably accurate reflection of your thinking.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Trust me dude, you are just a little kid on this "what aboutism". For every little point you make, their far more egregious acts done by your Pakistani compatriots and players. World simply ignores the crap done by Pakistan and India is not in such a habit of crying about little things.

I guess this is what running away from an argument when you have nothing left to defend yourself with sounds like.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Really?? How?? Again, just don't go about random imaginary facts in your mind. Get the actual facts before making such fantastical claims.

I'm reffering to ICC tournaments if you have any doubt then ask ICC why they have to put Pakistan and India in same group all the time,

 

[Itachi]

That's not for you to decide. If a person is religious they have every right to express that. That certainly doesn't give bigoted fans the right to abuse him over his beliefs.

This is the danger of allowing one aspect of society but prohibiting other ones. One shouldn't pick and choose because religion and politics are inter-related since ancient times.

 

[Itachi]

I'm reffering to ICC tournaments if you have any doubt then ask ICC why they have to put Pakistan and India in same group all the time,

Because of tradition. There are many things in the world done out of tradition rather than making any sense.

 

[praveen]

Expected. The stakes are way too high for high profile Indian team to tour Pakistan right now. Any mishap will set years of progress back to step 1. PCB is in a tough position but there is precedence.

My only gripe is Indian government sending other sporting teams to Pakistan but not the ICT. Are they saying the chances of a security incident happening are less with other teams than with the cricket team ? Or is this an economic boycott ?

 

[mominsaigol]

That's not for you to decide. If a person is religious they have every right to express that. That certainly doesn't give bigoted fans the right to abuse him over his beliefs.

This I agree with. An indian crowd should not attack anyone over religon, Nationality, Age, Gender, race or any other controversial irrespective of the person/team or anyone else playing in their home country.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

This is the danger of allowing one aspect of society but prohibiting other ones. One shouldn't pick and choose because religion and politics are inter-related since ancient times.

Religion is a personal thing. If someone wants to thank their god for their success what business is that of yours? Politics is a completely different thing and in sports it is pretty much directly connected to making a statement regarding something that affects a wide number of people.

 

[FearlessRoar]

As per Indian media reports:

PCB has confirmed that India informed the International Cricket Council (ICC) about its decision not to travel to Pakistan for the 2025 ICC Champions Trophy.

The PCB received an email from the ICC stating that India would not travel to Pakistan for the ICC mega tournament, and the PCB forwarded the communication to the Government of Pakistan for further guidance.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Because of tradition. There are many things in the world done out of tradition rather than making any sense.

If 6 out of top 10 most viewed international matches are between Pak and India, then i'm sure it's not done only for tradition.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Then it would be very easy for PCB to convince all boards to hold the CT without India.

it should be if bcci does nt throw its weight around and blackmail other boards of consequences. can bcci remain neutral after refusing to travel? the answer is no and its weird that bcci wont travel but also interfere in process of replacing them. such pettiness

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

The numbers have been discussed to death bhai. Don't start with your imaginary numbers to make a case. Go through the threads again.
PCB barely makes a profit of 10% margin, with loss of 50% of its revenue from ICC it will run into heavy losses.
and no other cricketing board is profitable without India series. With direct confrontation with BCCI, PCB will be shunted out by other boards who will obviously prefer their own financial survival.

i dnt know where this 10% came from? revenue from icc is proportionate and not aid given by bcci like Indians propagate. Pcb participates in tournaments and gets it fair share like other boards. PCB spent about 43 Million $ on stadium renovation for CT 2025 thats more than what icc gives to pcb. if PCB was 90% reliant on icc money it would be foolish to spend all their money reserves on Stadium upgrades lol

 

[FearlessRoar]

Pakistan may opt out of Champions Trophy 2025: sources

Pakistan is likely to opt out of the Champions Trophy 2025 in case the tournament is held on a hybrid model after India refused to send its team to the country, ARY News reported, citing sources.

Sources said on Sunday that the International Cricket Council (ICC) has conveyed to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) about India’s decision to refuse traveling to Pakistan for the tournament.

The PCB officials have informed the government about India’s decision. Sources said that Pakistan would decline any substitute model for the Champions Trophy 2025.

In this regard, the PCB is mulling a couple of strong responses, including dragging India to the ICC International Court of Arbitration.

The Pakistan Cricket Board is also considering refusing to play against India in all tournaments if it does not send its team to Pakistan for the tournament.

According to government sources, appropriate security measures are in place while the PCB is on schedule to build and renovate the cricket stadiums for the upcoming Champions Trophy 2025.

Pakistan may opt out of Champions Trophy 2025: sources

Pakistan is likely to opt out of the Champions Trophy 2025 in case the tournament is held on a hybrid model after India refused to send its team to the

arynews.tv

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Then it would be very easy for PCB to convince all boards to hold the CT without India.

Pcb spent about 42 Million USD on stadium upgrades for CT 2025. its documented. It would have been very easy for pcb to not go for expansive upgrades and offer that money to other boards as compensation of loss due to India’s exit. but things are not as simple as you put. BCCI would have subverted the attempt by trying to blackmail other boards to not accept any such proposal. because according to you its all about Cash for boards which isnt true. BCCI is playing politics and hiding behind government refusal excuse. BCCI with instructions from GOI does nt want any tournament to happen in Pakistan.Indians cant stand it

 

[adi_62941]

Why PCB forwarder ICC email to the government? Do they want the top level power to talk with India or what? Naqvi is himself is a interior minister. I think he has forwarded the email to himself while putting cc to PM

 

[Lonewarrior]

whatever PCB or Pak govt says, PCB will continue to work on same salary ......

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

If pakistan think they are right than take a strong stand against india and told to icc that we are hosting champions trophy without india and whatever loss occurs we will pay . problem solved

lol very easy to do for pcb but BCCI will start crying and not let it happen. if pcb can spend 42 Million $ on stadium upgrades which will be of no use , could have easily given that money to other boards as compensation. India already takes about 70% of revenue.. their refusal also means that icc wont have to pay to india either so actual loss will be around 30% which im pretty sure nee broadcasters and sponsors can atleast cover half of 30% and remaining half will be not a major loss. only if BCCI can take it without crying in icc board meet

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

i dnt know where this 10% came from? revenue from icc is proportionate and not aid given by bcci like Indians propagate. Pcb participates in tournaments and gets it fair share like other boards. PCB spent about 43 Million $ on stadium renovation for CT 2025 thats more than what icc gives to pcb. if PCB was 90% reliant on icc money it would be foolish to spend all their money reserves on Stadium upgrades lol

1. The 10% operating margin comes from the official financial reports of PCB.
2. ICC's share to team is not proportionate but negotiated, India contributes 90% of ICC revenues but gets 39% of the share. without India's contribution, Pakistan's revenue from ICC will drop by atleast 40% of its total (ICC contributes 50% of PCB revenue). All these details are available in PCB financial reports. I will advise to look them up yourself.
3. Stadium renovations are capital expenditure not annual spending, while ICC gives PCB about US$ 40 million annually.
The 40 million number doesnt include the PCB will generate from hosting the event and additional funds ICC has provided PCB for hosting.

Learn a bit of Finance, please.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

I'm reffering to ICC tournaments if you have any doubt then ask ICC why they have to put Pakistan and India in same group all the time,

Its one of the major selling points but in terms of revenue generation it has already fallen behind other matches. I have already shared the viewership numbers of India-Pak matches of the recent world Cups. It is no longer the money maker event that it used to be.

India Pakistan match in 23 world Cup was basically ranked 5th out the 11 games India played in viewership. below group matches against New Zealand, Australia and South Africa.
Similar was the case for T20 World Cup.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Dont throw retarded dumb numbers out of random imaginary plane !

40 Million $ icc annual share is from pool money that includes multiple tournaments not just CT 2025. CT 2025 might only be 10% of total pool. im not aware of exact percentage but pretty sure CT 2025 is the cheapest tournament in whole cycle with only 8 teams and fewer matches. so even if India takes 40% according to you then we are left with 50% loss since india contributes 90%.. what exactly is the $ amount looking at broadcast deal and sponsorships for CT 2025? PCB and icc if it was any fairer can definitely bring in replacement deals at minimum 25% of that. PCB can easily forgo its share in favor of other boards. reamining loss wont amount to much.

 

[Itachi]

If 6 out of top 10 most viewed international matches are between Pak and India, then i'm sure it's not done only for tradition.

Any matches in those excluding WC ones?

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

40 Million $ icc annual share is from pool money that includes multiple tournaments not just CT 2025. CT 2025 might only be 10% of total pool. im not aware of exact percentage but pretty sure CT 2025 is the cheapest tournament in whole cycle with only 8 teams and fewer matches. so even if India takes 40% according to you then we are left with 50% loss since india contributes 90%.. what exactly is the $ amount looking at broadcast deal and sponsorships for CT 2025? PCB and icc if it was any fairer can definitely bring in replacement deals at minimum 25% of that. PCB can easily forgo its share in favor of other boards. reamining loss wont amount to much.

Do you think BCCI and broadcasters will look at India's absence from a major tournament in isolation??
India contributes 90% to ICC pool, and gets back only 40%. BCCI will firm up and increase their demand of the share rightfully to punish PCB. Please take the "courageous action" against BCCI and force BCCI to form a parallel cricketing body.
Please go ahead. Your understanding of these business basics is too low and your maths is kinda on weak foundations.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Do you think BCCI and broadcasters will look at India's absence from a major tournament in isolation??
India contributes 90% to ICC pool, and gets back only 40%. BCCI will firm up and increase their demand of the share rightfully to punish PCB. Please take the "courageous action" against BCCI and force BCCI to form a parallel cricketing body.
Please go ahead. Your understanding of these business basics is too low and your maths is kinda on weak foundations.

hahaha thats what indian posters are suggesting here. why do bcci would want to punish Pcb and what for? its bcci thats refusing to travel. and Indians on this forum has made it issue of only money.. so you mean bcci will start crying if pcb takes any step to replace bcci in ct 2025 as proposed by many indian posters here? what a petty board

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

hahaha thats what indian posters are suggesting here. why do bcci would want to punish Pcb and what for? its bcci thats refusing to travel. and Indians on this forum has made it issue of only money.. so you mean bcci will start crying if pcb takes any step to replace bcci in ct 2025 as proposed by many indian posters here? what a petty board

BCCI has all the leverage and can easily put PCB back in its place which they have been doing for the last decade or so.
All PCB and Pakistanis do is chest thump about taking action, "no politics in sports" forgetting their own poltical games when it suited them but when reality sets in, things happen as per what BCCI wants.

 

[Itachi]

hahaha thats what indian posters are suggesting here. why do bcci would want to punish Pcb and what for? its bcci thats refusing to travel. and Indians on this forum has made it issue of only money.. so you mean bcci will start crying if pcb takes any step to replace bcci in ct 2025 as proposed by many indian posters here? what a petty board

Except money.... What else it can be?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Except money.... What else it can be?

yes i think if its only about money , pcb can handle ct 2025 and compensate as well fot loss of other boards in revenue share. but its not about only money. BCCI wont be able to accept its exclusion and will start throwing its weight to deny pcb even solution of short finances

 

[cricketjoshila]

If pakistan think they are right than take a strong stand against india and told to icc that we are hosting champions trophy without india and whatever loss occurs we will pay . problem solved

Should be easy as per some posters.

Ok if that happens? Who will feed other boards? BCCI?

That's why other boards may side with BCCI, so that India participates.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

BCCI has all the leverage and can easily put PCB back in its place which they have been doing for the last decade or so.
All PCB and Pakistanis do is chest thump about taking action, "no politics in sports" forgetting their own poltical games when it suited them but when reality sets in, things happen as per what BCCI wants.

you did nt answer my question.. why would bcci punish pcb for taking steps to hold ct 2025 in Pakistan? apparently it was awarded to pcb with Bcci’s approval back in 2021. and now bcci says GOI wont allow it so why cant bcci accept its exclusion in isolation? stop telling me how powerful bcci is

 

[cricketjoshila]

A big share in that 90 or whatever revenue comes from India Pakistan match in ICC tournament, it's not a secret.

No it doesn't. Indian market doesn't depend on Pakistan. The fact that IPL and Indian home series helps BCCI make billions is a proof of that.

PCB finds it hard to sell its tv rights.

This India Pakistan match makes a big share has no logic. India Pakistan match rights are not sold separately.

 

[cricketjoshila]

yes i think if its only about money , pcb can handle ct 2025 and compensate as well fot loss of other boards in revenue share. but its not about only money. BCCI wont be able to accept its exclusion and will start throwing its weight to deny pcb even solution of short finances

What weight will BCCI have if PCB will compensate the boards for all the revenue loss?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

What weight will BCCI have if PCB will compensate the boards for all the revenue loss?

like denying series to other boards

 

[adi_62941]

I think the BCCI is trapping the PCB again, similar to what happened during the IPL. In the second season, the PCB pulled all Pakistani players from the IPL, anticipating it would fail without them. However, the reality was, and remains, the opposite. By not playing against India in ICC events and boycotting them, the PCB risks ‘cutting off its own feet’ once again.”

 

[Bhaijaan]

Religion is a personal thing. If someone wants to thank their god for their success what business is that of yours? Politics is a completely different thing and in sports it is pretty much directly connected to making a statement regarding something that affects a wide number of people.

Pakistani cricketers are literally 50% maulanas. Have you forgotten the bigoted communal comments from Rashid Latif, Sohail Tanvir, Waqar Younis to say the very least. Even some no name female anchor of yours said some pathetic things about hinduism and was rightfully banned for it.

Pakistanis have earned every bit of hate through their actions not. Your people have no respect for other religions and feel they can openly mock our Gods and our culture. We are not interested in working with your lot.

 

[cricketjoshila]

40 Million $ icc annual share is from pool money that includes multiple tournaments not just CT 2025. CT 2025 might only be 10% of total pool. im not aware of exact percentage but pretty sure CT 2025 is the cheapest tournament in whole cycle with only 8 teams and fewer matches. so even if India takes 40% according to you then we are left with 50% loss since india contributes 90%.. what exactly is the $ amount looking at broadcast deal and sponsorships for CT 2025? PCB and icc if it was any fairer can definitely bring in replacement deals at minimum 25% of that. PCB can easily forgo its share in favor of other boards. reamining loss wont amount to much.

ICC holds one major tournament a year. Next year its CT. On basis of it ICC has alloted a revenue share of $34.5mn to PCB.

ICC estimates its revenue to be around $600mn.

If India doesn't play CT. I expect that revenues will fall by close to 80 per cent. Add to that the cost of hosting.

Substract the 38.5 per cent BCCI would have got that they won't now.

Approximately $250mn to $260mn is the short fall that PCB has to make up.

If PCB does bring $250mn, BCCI will have a lot lesser say. Not zero say. They still have a lot of value when they tour any country.

 

[BoomBoomAli]

The reality of the situation is that the BCCIs power will result in PCB cowering.

In the long term, the weakness of these other boards will eventually result in their demise.

It’s not completely implausible for cricket to go the way of baseball in America. Ie become a largely Indian centred sport with the IPL played for 75% of the year in some way shape or form. Will it result in a better product? No. Will it give uneducated nationalists in India something the gloat about? Yes.

The end of cricket as we’ve known it is approaching, albeit slowly but it is approaching.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

No it doesn't. Indian market doesn't depend on Pakistan. The fact that IPL and Indian home series helps BCCI make billions is a proof of that.

PCB finds it hard to sell its tv rights.

This India Pakistan match makes a big share has no logic. India Pakistan match rights are not sold separately.

i have told you earlier.. you gotta look at ct 2025 in exclusion if pcb or icc take that route, and numbers might end up being manageable. according to indian poster here , India takes 40% out of 90% they bring in.. so if india does nt play that means loss is only 50% of revenue thats only meant for CT 2025 which is cheapest tournament in whole cycle. if pcb wanted that route , could have easily pulled that up..pcb struggling to get broadcast deals for home series will be entirely different compared to ct .. so whatever $ figure is of that 50% loss , at least quarter of it or may be even half of it can recouped in replacement deals. but problem is bcci wont accept any such attempt

 

[cricketjoshila]

like denying series to other boards

That will be used only in exceptional cases. Only once in last 25 years have BCCI done so.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan may opt out of Champions Trophy 2025: sources

Pakistan is likely to opt out of the Champions Trophy 2025 in case the tournament is held on a hybrid model after India refused to send its team to the country, ARY News reported, citing sources.

Sources said on Sunday that the International Cricket Council (ICC) has conveyed to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) about India’s decision to refuse traveling to Pakistan for the tournament.

The PCB officials have informed the government about India’s decision. Sources said that Pakistan would decline any substitute model for the Champions Trophy 2025.

In this regard, the PCB is mulling a couple of strong responses, including dragging India to the ICC International Court of Arbitration.

The Pakistan Cricket Board is also considering refusing to play against India in all tournaments if it does not send its team to Pakistan for the tournament.

According to government sources, appropriate security measures are in place while the PCB is on schedule to build and renovate the cricket stadiums for the upcoming Champions Trophy 2025.

Pakistan may opt out of Champions Trophy 2025: sources

Pakistan is likely to opt out of the Champions Trophy 2025 in case the tournament is held on a hybrid model after India refused to send its team to the

arynews.tv

We are not interested in playing Pakistan. This country has never been friendly to us and has always tried to destabilise our country through the use of terrorism, drugs trafficking and what not. Since 26/11 and Pulwama the scope of any diplomatoc
Relationship with this country is out of question.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

ICC holds one major tournament a year. Next year its CT. On basis of it ICC has alloted a revenue share of $34.5mn to PCB.

ICC estimates its revenue to be around $600mn.

If India doesn't play CT. I expect that revenues will fall by close to 80 per cent. Add to that the cost of hosting.

Substract the 38.5 per cent BCCI would have got that they won't now.

Approximately $250mn to $260mn is the short fall that PCB has to make up.

If PCB does bring $250mn, BCCI will have a lot lesser say. Not zero say. They still have a lot of value when they tour any country.

im not sure 600 Million $ is correct figure. you are just dividing pool money with number of tournaments. but every tournament does nt have same value

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pakistani cricketers are literally 50% maulanas. Have you forgotten the bigoted communal comments from Rashid Latif, Sohail Tanvir, Waqar Younis to say the very least. Even some no name female anchor of yours said some pathetic things about hinduism and was rightfully banned for it.

Pakistanis have earned every bit of hate through their actions not. Your people have no respect for other religions and feel they can openly mock our Gods and our culture. We are not interested in working with your lot.

Nice to see you embrace your true xenophobic, Hindu-nationalist colors.

 

[BoomBoomAli]

We are not interested in playing Pakistan. This country has never been friendly to us and has always tried to destabilise our country through the use of terrorism, drugs trafficking and what not. Since 26/11 and Pulwama the scope of any diplomatoc
Relationship with this country is out of question.

As you type away on a website dedicated to PAKISTAN cricket. Make it make sense.

 

[FearlessRoar]

As per Indian media, Rohit Sharma while speaking to the media:

“The decision is not in our hands. It will be made by the cricket boards, and we are focused on the tournament ahead.”

“If we are sent to Pakistan, there will be no issue.”

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The reality of the situation is that the BCCIs power will result in PCB cowering.

In the long term, the weakness of these other boards will eventually result in their demise.

It’s not completely implausible for cricket to go the way of baseball in America. Ie become a largely Indian centred sport with the IPL played for 75% of the year in some way shape or form. Will it result in a better product? No. Will it give uneducated nationalists in India something the gloat about? Yes.

The end of cricket as we’ve known it is approaching, albeit slowly but it is approaching.

That's a really interesting point that I haven't heard anyone else bring up before. With the growth of India's economy and the IPL that is a very realistic and plausible thing that could happen. Cricket is already like the third or fourth most popular sport in the other two Big 3 countries (England and Australia) and the other countries don't really matter as far as dollars and cents are concerned. Even in the case of baseball, its not like the sport isn't popular in Japan, South Korea, Mexico, who would be comparable to countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh in this particular analogy. But the biggest thing in baseball is still MLB.

 

[Itachi]

yes i think if its only about money , pcb can handle ct 2025 and compensate as well fot loss of other boards in revenue share. but its not about only money. BCCI wont be able to accept its exclusion and will start throwing its weight to deny pcb even solution of short finances

How BCCI can throw its weight? Based upon what?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Nice to see you embrace your true xenophobic, Hindu-nationalist colors.

When it comes to dealing with bigoted anti Hindu mullahs from Pakistan, you can expect every single Sanatani to be at the top of his game.

Sanatanis are known for returning the favour 10X with interest. Ask Trudeau

 

[BoomBoomAli]

That's a really interesting point that I haven't heard anyone else bring up before. With the growth of India's economy and the IPL that is a very realistic and plausible thing that could happen. Cricket is already like the third or fourth most popular sport in the other two Big 3 countries (England and Australia) and the other countries don't really matter as far as dollars and cents are concerned. Even in the case of baseball, its not like the sport isn't popular in Japan, South Korea, Mexico, who would be comparable to countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh in this particular analogy. But the biggest thing in baseball is still MLB.

They could even have a World Cup/series played between the Mumbai super kings and chennai kings 11 etc lol

The issue is where does it leave international cricket? Nowhere. Where will it leave the sport in other countries? Weaker, it will eventually result in a weaker sport but a stronger India. And with the nationalist sentiment over there people will still watch and buy regardless of the watered down nature of the product played.

 

[Rajdeep]

As per Indian media, Rohit Sharma while speaking to the media:

“The decision is not in our hands. It will be made by the cricket boards, and we are focused on the tournament ahead.”

“If we are sent to Pakistan, there will be no issue.”

Rohit for some reason has always shown his interest of playing in & with Pakistan. If I recall, he also said that in an interview once with Gilchrist and Vaughan. C'mmon BCCI, let the team go. Our kaptaan sahab is also ready.

 

[Rajdeep]

Rohit may be itching to bat on flat pitches of Lahore in white ball cricket. He knows Dubai is a lottery with the toss.

@Devadwal

 

[msb314]

We are not interested in playing Pakistan. This country has never been friendly to us and has always tried to destabilise our country through the use of terrorism, drugs trafficking and what not. Since 26/11 and Pulwama the scope of any diplomatoc
Relationship with this country is out of question.

Thank you and don’t let the door hit you on your way out.

Also don’t show up at the cricket ground against Pakistan in the 2026 WorldT20 in India. Save the hassle since the other team will probably not show up either..

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

When it comes to dealing with bigoted anti Hindu mullahs from Pakistan, you can expect every single Sanatani to be at the top of his game.

Sanatanis are known for returning the favour 10X with interest. Ask Trudeau

No idea what any of these terms mean. The funny thing is that I'm not even a religious person in my personal life. But ofcourse you wouldn't know that which is why its especially funny to hear you make these assertions out of your rear-end.

If anything, I would consider myself a liberal on the ideological spectrum. Which is why I especially detest far-right xenophobic bigots who are happy to trample on everyone's right except their own peoples'.

 

[Bhaijaan]

No idea what any of these terms mean. The funny thing is that I'm not even a religious person in my personal life. But ofcourse you wouldn't know that which is why its especially funny to hear you make these assertions out of your rear-end.

If anything, I would consider myself a liberal on the ideological spectrum. Which is why I especially detest far-right xenophobic bigots who are happy to trample on everyone's right except their own people's.

You are merely suffering from the acts of your people. Which is rather than questioning Bharat, people of Pakistan must question their dictators about how their country has been run and they must ask their fellow countrymen of their historic comments against Hinduism. We have had enough of it. There was always going to be a point when Sanatanis were gonna hit back hard and it’s this moment. Even I wish this beast was never awakened but it is Anti Hindu people who summoned it.

 

[Slim]

I am tired of writing on this topic.

This will have far reaching consequences and could be a massive building block for the demise of world cricket.

People in other parts of the world already see cricket as an indian sport. I told my non brown gf that pakistan is playing Australia and she was shocked to see white Australian players. She said she thought it would be bunch of indian expats playing in Australia.

This is how poor the perception of the game is in the world.

Indians in their blood lust to one up Pakistan are harming the game. The indian posters here stop need to do all those gymnastics and admit that they simply dont want to see Pakistan thriving. They cannot stand Pakistan getting an international tournament. And through proxy of BCCI they want to satisfy their lust of one upping Pakistan.

Mohsin is not going to cower, from what i have seen so far, we will hopefully take a strong stand. South Africa went through a complete ban and came out strong. Like i always say tough times are there, but not forever.

If Pakistan is taken out of world cricket, you already have one pillar of cricket destroyed. The dwindling interest in Australia and England, and you will have a completely indian centric sport.

Now even indians wouldnt like that, how will they chest beat if Koomar from Delhi will beat Raju from Melbourne? You can say a lot about their psyche when they keep trying hard to brand Australia India series as BGT when Australian media only calls it India Australia series. They love that foreign validation and understandably so as a third world country.

If india only plays IPL, cricket will slowly die in India too.

So go ahead BCCI and jingos, do your thing. Burry the one sport you are semi decent at.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Most of the blame should go to the ICC here and not India.

If their oppressive regime doesn't let them tour then no fault of the BCCI. It's like how ACB Taliban regime stops certain things in Afghan cricket too.

The sad thing is it took too long to confirm this. iCC should have stepped in a long time ago.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I am tired of writing on this topic.

This will have far reaching consequences and could be a massive building block for the demise of world cricket.

People in other parts of the world already see cricket as an indian sport. I told my non brown gf that pakistan is playing Australia and she was shocked to see white Australian players. She said she thought it would be bunch of indian expats playing in Australia.

This is how poor the perception of the game is in the world.

Indians in their blood lust to one up Pakistan are harming the game. The indian posters here stop need to do all those gymnastics and admit that they simply dont want to see Pakistan thriving. They cannot stand Pakistan getting an international tournament. And through proxy of BCCI they want to satisfy their lust of one upping Pakistan.

Mohsin is not going to cower, from what i have seen so far, we will hopefully take a strong stand. South Africa went through a complete ban and came out strong. Like i always say tough times are there, but not forever.

If Pakistan is taken out of world cricket, you already have one pillar of cricket destroyed. The dwindling interest in Australia and England, and you will have a completely indian centric sport.

Now even indians wouldnt like that, how will they chest beat if Koomar from Delhi will beat Raju from Melbourne? You can say a lot about their psyche when they keep trying hard to brand Australia India series as BGT when Australian media only calls it India Australia series. They love that foreign validation and understandably so as a third world country.

If india only plays IPL, cricket will slowly die in India too.

So go ahead BCCI and jingos, do your thing. Burry the one sport you are semi decent at.

They are very passionate peoples. Don't belittle the jazba on Indians in such a way. They throw parades of TV rights deals and how many viewing figures a match gets.

Indians will always find a way to cheer.

 

[shaz619]

Rohit for some reason has always shown his interest of playing in & with Pakistan. If I recall, he also said that in an interview once with Gilchrist and Vaughan. C'mmon BCCI, let the team go. Our kaptaan sahab is also ready.

They should said India C, am sure certain Pak players will relish the challenge

 

[shaz619]

Most of the blame should go to the ICC here and not India.

If their oppressive regime doesn't let them tour then no fault of the BCCI. It's like how ACB Taliban regime stops certain things in Afghan cricket too.

The sad thing is it took too long to confirm this. iCC should have stepped in a long time ago.

Absolutely, the ICC need to show a pair really but doubt it, they already facilitated the monopoly on the sport

 

[Bhaijaan]

Indians in their blood lust to one up Pakistan are harming the game.

We are having sleepless nights about how we are ever gonna one up
Pakistan.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You are merely suffering from the acts of your people. Which is rather than questioning Bharat, people of Pakistan must question their dictators about how their country has been run and they must ask their fellow countrymen of their historic comments against Hinduism. We have had enough of it. There was always going to be a point when Sanatanis were gonna hit back hard and it’s this moment. Even I wish this beast was never awakened but it is Anti Hindu people who summoned it.

No offence but you sound like a pretty ignorant chap if you really believe that all Pakistanis think the same way, don't question their leaders, and don't condemn religious extremism and bigotry.

What I don't get though is why you are trying to manufacture this fictitious argument out of thin air that I care very little. To be very honest, I don't give a damn about what happens in India, good or bad.

What I do care about is Pakistani cricket players getting abused by bigoted fans simply because they are Pakistani, Muslims and cricket players that are there to play a cricket World Cup match.

There has to be something truly screwed up in your head to defend/justify the behavior of such people.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Very true.

Santanis hit back in style with a mou tour jawaab.

You kill our troops and terrorise us and guess what we won't play cricket with you.

The beast has truly awoken.

No cricket
No business
No diplomatic ties

The blood of our people isn’t cheap.

Pakistan will have to give up Anti Bharat terrorist activities once and for all.

 

[Slim]

We are having sleepless nights about how we are ever gonna one up
Pakistan.

Low IQ take, and seeing this from you is extremely disappointing. You have become a shell of yourself.

 

[Slim]

No cricket
No business
No diplomatic ties

The blood of our people isn’t cheap.

Pakistan will have to give up Anti Bharat terrorist activities once and for all.

Stop the cap, brother. Stop. You know these are not the actual reasons. Just please stop deluding yourself.

 

[Rajdeep]

I am tired of writing on this topic.

This will have far reaching consequences and could be a massive building block for the demise of world cricket.

People in other parts of the world already see cricket as an indian sport. I told my non brown gf that pakistan is playing Australia and she was shocked to see white Australian players. She said she thought it would be bunch of indian expats playing in Australia.

This is how poor the perception of the game is in the world.

Indians in their blood lust to one up Pakistan are harming the game. The indian posters here stop need to do all those gymnastics and admit that they simply dont want to see Pakistan thriving. They cannot stand Pakistan getting an international tournament. And through proxy of BCCI they want to satisfy their lust of one upping Pakistan.

Mohsin is not going to cower, from what i have seen so far, we will hopefully take a strong stand. South Africa went through a complete ban and came out strong. Like i always say tough times are there, but not forever.

If Pakistan is taken out of world cricket, you already have one pillar of cricket destroyed. The dwindling interest in Australia and England, and you will have a completely indian centric sport.

Now even indians wouldnt like that, how will they chest beat if Koomar from Delhi will beat Raju from Melbourne? You can say a lot about their psyche when they keep trying hard to brand Australia India series as BGT when Australian media only calls it India Australia series. They love that foreign validation and understandably so as a third world country.

If india only plays IPL, cricket will slowly die in India too.

So go ahead BCCI and jingos, do your thing. Burry the one sport you are semi decent at.

Why do you think Australia extended the tour by adding one extra test this time?

What is the harm in calling it a BGT? It is called Border Gavaskar Trophy, na?

Looks like you are venting your frustration in wrong place.

 

[ChennaiFan]

I was all along wanted Indian team to visit Pakistan and play the Champions Trophy there. But seeing some posts full of hatred and sarcasm towards India makes me believe that BCCI's stance has some merits.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Low IQ take, and seeing this from you is extremely disappointing. You have become a shell of yourself.

It’s disappointing if you support terrorist activities against our country.

 

[TheSultan]

You are merely suffering from the acts of your people. Which is rather than questioning Bharat, people of Pakistan must question their dictators about how their country has been run and they must ask their fellow countrymen of their historic comments against Hinduism. We have had enough of it. There was always going to be a point when Sanatanis were gonna hit back hard and it’s this moment. Even I wish this beast was never awakened but it is Anti Hindu people who summoned it.

What you sitting on a cricket forum chest thumping then - go do something about it.

 

[Slim]

Why do you think Australia extended the tour by adding one extra test this time?

What is the harm in calling it a BGT? It is called Border Gavaskar Trophy, na?

Looks like you are venting your frustration in wrong place.

I am not sure why they did that, maybe due to monetary reasons as Indians relish the challenge of taking on Australia. So more attractive for indian market. Maybe the Aussies love it too since you guys have given them a beat down? Adding one extra test is fair, since you guys compete well in down under.

The whole branding thing is just an observation from both ends. I have seen mostly indians use that term. I am using it as an example to make a point about the importance of international cricket and the need for foreign validation. Cricket will die if it becomes an indian centric sport.

 

[Slim]

I was all along wanted Indian team to visit Pakistan and play the Champions Trophy there. But seeing some posts full of hatred and sarcasm towards India makes me believe that BCCI's stance has some merits.

These comments are effect and not the cause. You wont see them if BCCI hadnt pulled this.

 

[Rajdeep]

I am not sure why they did that, maybe due to monetary reasons as Indians relish the challenge of taking on Australia. So more attractive for indian market. Maybe the Aussies love it too since you guys have given them a beat down? Adding one extra test is fair, since you guys compete well in down under.

The whole branding thing is just an observation from both ends. I have seen mostly indians use that term. I am using it as an example to make a point about the importance of international cricket and the need for foreign validation. Cricket will die if it becomes an indian centric sport.

Indians love to use terminologies...like they also call EPL. No one in UK calls it an EPL but just premier league.

However, that doesn't mean they are looking for some validation etc. Its just the way we are

 

[Bhaijaan]

What you sitting on a cricket forum chest thumping then - go do something about it.

We are already part of a revolution. Age of Sanatan is upon us.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It’s disappointing if you support terrorist activities against our country.

You are entitled to this opinion.

We will of course disagree with your logic and reasoning but ultimately GOI can act in the way it feels is best for it's country.

That's why my gripe is mainly with ICC. This is just exceptionally poor management

 

[Cricket Warrior]

No more personal attacks guys. It's better to avoid posting here if can't discuss politely.