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Rohit Sharma vs Umar Akmal

mystical man said:
While legendary players like Farhat and Malik will be opening the batting for your team.
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Malik hasn't been part of the test team for 4 years and never will be again.

Farhat is a backup. He sits on the bench when Jamshed/Taufeeq are fit to play and like I said, Rohit will be on the bench.
He would replace Farhat there.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Malik hasn't been part of the test team for 4 years and never will be again.

Farhat is a backup. He sits on the bench when Jamshed/Taufeeq are fit to play and like I said, Rohit will be on the bench.
He would replace Farhat there.
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You meant Break-Dancer Taufeeq Umar who is dancing on the crease and is a sitting duck for any frontline bowler.
Shoaib Malik Bhai and Saeed Anwar will make a thundering comeback...
 
mystical man said:
You meant Break-Dancer Taufeeq Umar who is dancing on the crease and is a sitting duck for any frontline bowler.
Shoaib Malik Bhai and Saeed Anwar will make a thundering comeback...
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You are pretty uninformed if you think Malik will make a comeback in tests. He is done with the longest format and he himself has shown no desire of making a comeback.

Taufeeq the break dancer averages close to 40 in test cricket. I doubt the legendary and mythical talent of Rohit will come close to that figure.

Who cares about his FC average when he has shown zero application at international level for years and has to rely on bashing Zimbabwe to take his ODI average beyond the 20s.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
You are pretty uninformed if you think Malik will make a comeback in tests. He is done with the longest format and he himself has shown no desire of making a comeback.

Taufeeq the break dancer averages close to 40 in test cricket. I doubt the legendary and mythical talent of Rohit will come close to that figure.

Who cares about his FC average when he has shown zero application at international level for years and has to rely on bashing Zimbabwe to take his ODI average beyond the 20s.
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What lows have we reached where an opener has been allowed to be selected because he averages close to 40?wow...We will see what Rohit is capable of after he makes a test debut.I am sure there are better openers in the domestic circuit than this break-dancer...
 
mystical man said:
What lows have we reached where an opener has been allowed to be selected because he averages close to 40?wow...We will see what Rohit is capable of after he makes a test debut.I am sure there are better openers in the domestic circuit than this break-dancer...
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Yes there are and Nasir is one of them. But to think that Rohit would be first choice in our test team is just absurd.
Bla bla bla. We have seen what Rohit is capable of already.
 
Rohit Sharma with his usual garbage against a quality bowling attack.

But nothing to worry, he will inflate his average again in Zimbabwe soon.
 
if umaar comparison doesn't work for a player, that means he's really garbage player.
 
Can't believe he's played 92 games...
WHY and HOW? :facepalm:
 
Maybe the jinx will work in reverse and Umar will start performing :13:
 
IndianWillow said:
Kapu much worse than Nohit. Averaged 20 odd.
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Nohit Balma...

You guys should have discarded him after 50-60 ODIS, thats a good amount of ODIS to see whether a player can cut it or not...

The rest of the 32-42 games should have been given to Pujara, Rahane or someone....Even Murali Vijay....
 
Talunted Rohit averages 44 from June while playing in England and Windies as an opener. :bow: to the legend that is :umarakmal .
 
idly sambar said:
This guy knows how to judge talent. LOL. funny thing is he is someone who called Umar Akmal a great talent.
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Rohit is a tried and tested failure. He gets too many chances for his own good and today, a 50 from him is enough to satisfy the fans.

Pujara should open for India and immediately you'll get to see a world of difference.

Yes Umar is a great talent and in another league to Rohit. Problem?
 
Umar, without him Pakistan would've comfortably lost atleast two games in the windies series
 
PakistaniBoomBoom said:
Who would u consider a better player and bigger asset to his team?
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Umar currently is more important for Pakistan than Rohit is to India. But, on purely batting basis, they are comparable. They have performed equally.

Unfortunately, this says more about the state of Pakistani batting.
 
^ Rohit averages around 30 in ODIs
Umar averages nearly 40 in ODIs

Don't see how they're comparable
 
Rohit is the biggest enigma in Indian cricket. He has played 100 odis without playing a test match. Everyone know he is the biggest talent to play for India after yuvi, but somehow he hasn't been able to convert his talent into runs. Its more to do with his attitude at times. I remember him giving interviews that being out of indian team doesn't hurt him anymore and he wants to enjoy his life. With that sort of attitude u would never become a great player.
 
Umar is a far better batsman and performer, despite being denied playing at home he averages a lot more than rohit.
 
Indian posters say Rohit is talented but how, Kohli is much better,Rohit is not international standard
 
Singham said:
Rohit is the biggest enigma in Indian cricket. He has played 100 odis without playing a test match. Everyone know he is the biggest talent to play for India after yuvi, but somehow he hasn't been able to convert his talent into runs. Its more to do with his attitude at times. I remember him giving interviews that being out of indian team doesn't hurt him anymore and he wants to enjoy his life. With that sort of attitude u would never become a great player.
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Yuvi and RS more talented than :kohli?
 
Kiwi said:
Yuvi and RS more talented than :kohli?
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Those claiming Rohit is talented: It is based on his shot making skills, he seems to pull out some shots out of no where and appears to have much time for his shots. These people do not notice why Rohit fails consistently, it is not just plain unluck - it is due to a weaker front foot defense, he leaves too much gap between bat and pad, and his temperament is pretty ordinary. Unless Rohit fixes his glitches, he will always remain a super boy with his fans with nothing much to show on the score card.
 
Haroon786 said:
Indian posters say Rohit is talented but how, Kohli is much better,Rohit is not international standard
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Rohit has performed better than many of your Top order batsmen. :))) check the average of some of your batsmen and Rohit. now tell me how many of your batsmen are International Standard?
 
Insult to compare Umar with Rohit as Chota has already played so many crucial knocks for his side while Rohit has done Jack all.

Indian opening batsmen have never been more crappier in the last 20 years. I cant believe that a spot once occupied by the likes of SRT, Ganguly, Sehwag , Gambhir has now been given to someone who averages 30 with a pathetic S/R of 75 after playing 100 games.

Wont be far off to compare Rohit with Imran farhat as both average pretty closer.
 
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IndianWillow said:
Those claiming Rohit is talented: It is based on his shot making skills, he seems to pull out some shots out of no where and appears to have much time for his shots. These people do not notice why Rohit fails consistently, it is not just plain unluck - it is due to a weaker front foot defense, he leaves too much gap between bat and pad, and his temperament is pretty ordinary. Unless Rohit fixes his glitches, he will always remain a super boy with his fans with nothing much to show on the score card.
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Rohit has more time to play shots than any other youngster, including Kohli. That is the more important talent/skill any batsman should have. picking the length of the ball early. He picks it up earlier than others. thats why he has more time to play against fast bowling. Analysts give more weightage to that particular skill than anything else. Thats why Rohit is rated higher as far as talent is concerned. Yes he has underachieved so far. He is still young and very good domestic average. He has not played test yet. So lets wait till he makes test debut.

Yes I agree Rohit has other glitches in his technics which can be corrected if he works hard.
 
Rohit is a nobody, he can bugger off.

Pakistan however will sink without Akmal's middle-order batting and keeping skills.
 
idly sambar said:
Rohit has more time to play shots than any other youngster, including Kohli. That is the more important talent/skill any batsman should have. picking the length of the ball early. He picks it up earlier than others. thats why he has more time to play against fast bowling. Analysts give more weightage to that particular skill than anything else. Thats why Rohit is rated higher as far as talent is concerned. Yes he has underachieved so far. He is still young and very good domestic average. He has not played test yet. So lets wait till he makes test debut.

Yes I agree Rohit has other glitches in his technics which can be corrected if he works hard.
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I dont buy this fact that Rohit has more time to play his shots etc.

ATM, both Rohit and Umar seem very talented, with something missing between their ears. Off-late they have delivered similarly.

If they carry on like this, they will be under achievers.
 
idly sambar said:
Rohit has performed better than many of your Top order batsmen. :))) check the average of some of your batsmen and Rohit. now tell me how many of your batsmen are International Standard?
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In the past Salman Butt and now Jamshed + Misbah at 4 are better batsman than Rs
 
Umar Akmal and Rohit Sharma

Lol what a poor comparison.

Rohit is a poor man's Umar at best.

It has taken him years to take his average beyond the 20s.

His talent is imaginary; got very little to show for it.
 
Sidilicious said:
I dont buy this fact that Rohit has more time to play his shots etc.

ATM, both Rohit and Umar seem very talented, with something missing between their ears. Off-late they have delivered similarly.

If they carry on like this, they will be under achievers.
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Its wrong to compare the anyway, one bats at 6, the othervopens, but Um:wasima:r is still better
 
Umar Akmal and Rohit Sharma

Umar has a far better average and far better strike rate. He's in a different league to Rohit. Very lame comparison.
 
Umar Akmal and Rohit Sharma

Rohit has started to open only recently so this isn't an illogical comparison at all in terms of batting position and role.
 
idly sambar said:
Rohit has more time to play shots than any other youngster, including Kohli. That is the more important talent/skill any batsman should have. picking the length of the ball early. He picks it up earlier than others. thats why he has more time to play against fast bowling. Analysts give more weightage to that particular skill than anything else. Thats why Rohit is rated higher as far as talent is concerned. Yes he has underachieved so far. He is still young and very good domestic average. He has not played test yet. So lets wait till he makes test debut.

Yes I agree Rohit has other glitches in his technics which can be corrected if he works hard.
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But this talent is useless against good bowlers who will try to exploit all his weaknesses.
 
Umar Akmal and Rohit Sharma

Sidilicious said:
Umar might be better, but not a different league. Their recent stats are similar, esp comparing the two series in WI.
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Such recent stats reflect current form only not overall ability.
 
Umar Akmal and Rohit Sharma

Rohit sees the ball earlier than everyone but then does nothing about it :malik
 
IndianWillow said:
But this talent is useless against good bowlers who will try to exploit all his weaknesses.
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I am only talking about talent. One of the reasons why he has not been consistent is, he has not worked on those glitches in technic and many bowlers have already exploited those glitches in International games. But he is still doing well in domestic and IPL. reason for that is, in domestic games bowlers are not good enough to exploit his weakness. IPL is in T20 format, you can still play well with those issues in T20 format.

Just because he has that most important skill of picking the length early, I would give him a few more chances in ODI to establish himself, as he has showed the improvement in the past few months and I would pick him in test as soon as Tendulkar retires. Rohit has no connection or anything. Still he is getting chances over players like Tiwary, Rahane, Badri, etc., That shows selectors too feel that this guy is a special talent.
 
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Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Such recent stats reflect current form only not overall ability.
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what do you mean overall ability. ability wise, Rohit is a much better talented batsman. If you think otherwise, thats is just your opinion. I cant say anythign about that. You talk about overall average all the time to mock Rohit, now suddenly bringing overall ability when somebody showed the recent averages.

Umar was also inconsistent until he was dropped. Dont go with overall average. He started with hundreds in both ODI and test and since then he was regressing. People over here were asking him to be dropped after so many brainfarts he committed in the past.

Both have showed improvement recently. Just hope both will kick on from here. no point in putting one down and calling other one as the best.
 
rohit is arguably the most talented young bat from SC, he has the rare ability to score on difficult tracks.
 
rohit lol..another batsman who is bekaar..bit of swing, bit of pressure and the glass man shatters..another boring indian player.
 
amax said:
rohit is arguably the most talented young bat from SC
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I don't buy that. The only way to measure talent is against runs. And Rohit has not done much in the runs column. He might have turned a corner opening, but lets see going ahead.
 
Rohit has all the talent. I remember people comparing him to inzi because of his lazy elegance. Umar akmal is more effective although he is not as talented as Rohit.
 
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Rohit on ability and talent wise in on another level which Umar Akmal on even his best day can only dream to reach.

Performance wise both have been very disappointing, I don't count cameos as sign of good batsman.

At least Rohit has taken the challenge of batting in top 3. Akmal may end with more runs and better stats purely due to the team he plays.
 
Singham said:
Rohit has all the talent. I remember people comparing him to inzi because of his lazy elegance. Umar akmal is more effective although he is not as talented as Rohit.
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And I remember Imran Nazir being compared with Tendulkar.
 
waqar goraya said:
And I remember Imran Nazir being compared with Tendulkar.
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Nazir when he first came on to the scene vowed everyone, wasnt a compelte slogger back than either. He could have been something special and imo he is a bigger dissapointment than sami or afridi
 
idly sambar said:
what do you mean overall ability. ability wise, Rohit is a much better talented batsman.
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Based on what?

You talk about overall average all the time to mock Rohit, now suddenly bringing overall ability when somebody showed the recent averages.
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Both toured WI in the space of few days.

Rohit - 5 matches, 217 runs at an average of 54.

Umar - 5 matches, 175 runs at an average of 58.

Since Rohit was opening, he had the opportunity to score more runs. But on balance of play, it is very fair to say that both had equally good tours.

Umar was also inconsistent until he was dropped. Dont go with overall average. He started with hundreds in both ODI and test and since then he was regressing. People over here were asking him to be dropped after so many brainfarts he committed in the past.
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Umar's last 15 matches before he was dropped = average of 43.

Umar' last 6 matches before he was dropped = average of 50.

How is that inconsistent? and why shouldn't we focus on overall averages? because it makes Rohit look bad and Umar look good?

Besides, no of hundreds are not the most important factor. It is your consistency of runs.

Hussey, one of the greatest ODI batsman of all time has only 3 hundreds compared to someone like Tharanga who has 13. So who is a better ODI batsman?

Both have showed improvement recently. Just hope both will kick on from here. no point in putting one down and calling other one as the best.
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Please stop living under this delusion that Umar and Rohit are players of similar class and pedigree who have both followed similar career paths. Sorry to say but that is pure BS.

it took Rohit 100 matches to take his ODI average beyond 30. Tried and tested failures like Farhat and Malik average more than him.

Umar Akmal is in a completely different league to Rohit. No comparison between the two.

Talent is meaningless when you have nothing to show for it at the highest level. 1/2 good series cannot wash away the 6 years of garbage.

Comparing Rohit to Umar is as pathetic as comparing Umar to Kohli.

Kohli is on a different level to Umar and Umar is on a different level to Kohli.
 
I dont remember a single batsmen in India's Odi history who has gone on to represent the country for more than 100 times, undeservingly and with such ease.

Even the likes of Sidhu, Ajay Jadeja, kaif, Manjrekar, Kambli gave more better performance after 100 Odis.

Its a shame that a more talented bat like Umar Akmal is being forced to keep wickets to earn a place in the time while a crap performer like Rohit is being given chances as dole.
 
Who would u consider a better player and bigger asset to his team?

There are two questions here and doesn't necessarily make the same answer.

1. Who is better player? Nohit sharma. He has a place in Indian batting lineup that says a lot.

2. Who is bigger asset to his team? here Umar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nohit sharma.

Hack, Umar is bigger asset to his team than Tendu to indian team.

Two different frame of reference on the latter question.
 
^ What a stupid logic. Umar is not an Indian hence he cannot play for India and have a place in their batting line up so how does that make Rohit better than him?

Answer this. If Umar could play for India, would you pick him ahead of Rohit? looking at their track record, any sane person would.
 
Itachi said:
Who would u consider a better player and bigger asset to his team?

There are two questions here and doesn't necessarily make the same answer.

1. Who is better player? Nohit sharma. He has a place in Indian batting lineup that says a lot.

2. Who is bigger asset to his team? here Umar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nohit sharma.

Hack, Umar is bigger asset to his team than Tendu to indian team.

Two different frame of reference on the latter question.
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Nohit would not have found a place in the Indian team for so long without Dhoni's friendship. India could have groomed a much better prospect than this "talented" sub standard player.
 
Mamoon, nope, i wont pick umar. Reason is simple. Rohit gives more variety, flexibility to play with the team. Put Umar in #1 position and he will be a sitting duck. The ONLY batsman whom i will consider is Misbah. He has quality and great temperament.
 
IndianWillow, Nohit is rejuvinated now.... I guess i'l give him a little bit more chance before making a conclusion.
 
Rohit is the most talented bastman in India. Already greats like Sachin,Ganguly,Azharauddin have certified this.It is a different thing he is not able to make a mark like Kohli.
 
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Rohit is just a gasbag... just because some bombay commentators said that Rohit has technique and class, all the wannabe couch potato fans starting jumping up and down claiming Rohit to have the best technique and talent.. BoolSSh!t...

UAkmal is 100 times better than R.Sharma...
 
Itachi said:
IndianWillow, Nohit is rejuvinated now.... I guess i'l give him a little bit more chance before making a conclusion.
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A couple of good tours cannot efface years of mediocrity. To claim he is rejuvenated now is going OTT. He needs to perform consistently for at least a whole year to be considered rejuvenated.
 
rahulrulezz said:
Rohit is just a gasbag... just because some bombay commentators said that Rohit has technique and class, all the wannabe couch potato fans starting jumping up and down claiming Rohit to have the best technique and talent.. BoolSSh!t...
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This.
 
a lot of Rohit haters in India. I understand their frustration that Rohit has been given a lot of chances. But he is beginnig to get better, I would wait till he fails again. He has been decndn in the last 6 months.
 
Itachi said:
Mamoon, nope, i wont pick umar. Reason is simple. Rohit gives more variety, flexibility to play with the team. Put Umar in #1 position and he will be a sitting duck. The ONLY batsman whom i will consider is Misbah. He has quality and great temperament.
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And how exactly have you come to this conclusion that Umar would be a sitting duck?

How many times have you watched him open?
 
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